I genuinely think the movie would have been better if they had focused on the Taron Egerton gorilla plot line. Like High School Musical crossed with Baby Driver.
@@ZPixel17 To be fair, Skylar was singing Marilyn Monroe's incredibly sultry version that she sang for JFK upon the request of her boss with whom she had a history.
@@bogiewoods3037 Don't know where it started but it does seem to be one of those visual gags like they sneeze and everyone is suddenly surrounded by spikes
It’s weirdly high quality looking. Like the water, the destruction… it looks almost photorealistic and then you have basic cartoon animals and the juxtaposition really just hurts to look at.
The City of Zootopia was a more diverse atmosphere, with vehicles, gadgets, and buildings specifically for each animal. Whatever city is in Sing is just a generic human city with animals instead of people.
Exactly. A good rule of thumb for this sort of thing is to ask whether the setting would work with humans. If so, the movie is pointless. If not, then you’ve got a specific and unique setting- of course, that doesn’t automatically make it great, but it means that you’re on the right track.
@hi there Ah, ok. But still, as a bullying victim, I prefer people not being turned into the brunt of mean jokes unless they really deserve it like Hitler or something.
Funny how the only animalistic visual gag in this movie was when the porcupine girl shot out her spikes into the audience... which appearently isn't even a thing they can actually do.
@@El-de6nj they can raise it a little like how a dog's hair can stand on end but they don't really have more control over it than other mammals can control hair. They have absolutely no mechanism whatsoever to shoot them, they can break off accidentally but there is no way for the hedgehog/porcupine to force them out intentionally. Tk; dr: not really, porcupine spikes are basically specialized stiff hair. It can't do anymore than any other mammals hair can. In other words,, basically just stand on end. Shooting is just an old wives tale.
Yeah, as cute as some of the character designs are, they didn't need to be animals seeing as how you can change them into humans and the plot would barely change.
Y'know, this video actually inspired me. I think I have an obsession over "Sing" now. Not because I like it at all, but because I think the concept was wasted, and I feel like it would be such a fun concept to work with. I would not even feel like I've "ripped off" the film, because, as you said, it seems done and unoriginal. The whole film just seems like a writing prompt.
Fancy meeting you here, but big agree. It's wasted potential that could've had so much more done with it. Maybe styles of music that match where specific animals come from/are common in or something
The rhino gag is that rhinos have extremely poor eyesight and having a rhino direct traffic is an awful idea. I may have been looking for a visual gag that wasn't even there to begin with.
Honestly like Nick said, I wholeheartedly agree if they put that gorilla dude as the MC the movie WON'T suck as much. I feel there should be more emphasis on his side of the story
Wow. I had to look up who voice acted Johnny and as it turns out, my brain lied to me and said it was Ed Sheeran my excuse of 'he wanted to be a more human-like animal' doesn't make sense any more
The only bit that stood out to me was the pig husband not being jealous of his wife's singing partner. It was nice to see that after so many years of male characters not trusting their partners.
I partially liked that, in the other hand, throughout the movie he treated his wife as she wasn't there to the point he didn't notice at all she was gone, for me, it came like him just not caring, rather than him trusting on her, which hits different. I really wished for her to leave his husband at some point, I was expecting telenovela type of drama, idk, it would have given some spice to this bland ass movie.
@@Cloverfr I wanted to see if he used to be nicer or something in the past and that changed because why even have kids with a man who treats you like nothing more than a child raiser and a maid. He just looked like he had little interest in her and it felt like the kind of man that marries a woman with promise of an amazing life together but mentally rejects her after she has kids and he thinks that she's "past her prime." I think I watch too many dramas
@@tropicaldisaster8135 I watched the movie and he came across more as a man who works himself to the bone to provide the financial support for the insane number of kids they have. She doesn't seem like she is exhausted constantly like he was. She is just bored and wants more out of life, which is understandable.
@@zut8448 Also lootboxes and purchasable in-game currency near impossible to get for good lootbox drops… in other words: milking the user dry of money for potentially good drops.
My boyfriend likes the song "Creep". He once sang it to me, and the way he sang so emotionally made me want to cry. I love him more than anything, so hearing him sound like he was going to cry was almost painful.
I would have liked this movie more if it was an original musical rather than a jukebox musical, but writing songs would have required effort and that's not the Illumination way
@@oaksynia7353 ok, and? Doesn't mean that you shouldn't acknowledge it when saying "they didn't make any original song" Especially when it was a bangin song
Saw this in the theater with friends, cause it was 9pm and we still wanted to hang out, so we watch this. We ended looking on AO3 to see if there was an fanfics between the koala and the sheep guy
So I looked it up and there are 282 works, and there's at least 5 nsfw fics for buster moon/eddie noodleman. And no, I did not read it. Feel free though, I guess
The gag with Rhinos is they have extremely bad eyesight and are damn near blind. So directing traffic is ironic, cops as rhinos symbolizes that they are powerful and can enforce the law as well as having a temper, but they're blind, so they never see crime happening or they arrest the wrong people, can also be a play on "justice is blind" So, kinda social commentary on that one. But this is just my inference, it's possible, but not all that likely that illumination did this intentionally.
@@milkywayflea404 It probably wasn't, but it is something that can be inferred. And who knows if people on the creative team took that creative freedom to do something like that with that intended message without higher ups knowing the intent. Either way, it's just conjecture.
It totally sounds like Nick is nitpicking when talking about how they don't actually do anything creative with the fact that they're anthropomorphic animals but that's probably the biggest problem with this movie. The fact that the characters are animals mean literally nothing. You could replace all of the models with humans that have noses that are too big and literally nothing would change.
@@maddieb.4282 I've bought things from youtube and other online ads before to plenty of success, I just do some research instead of taking everything on the ad at face value.
When I was in the hospital, Sing used to play on the tv in my room. There were other movies that played, but not as often, so I was almost always asleep when other movies played. I had that entire movie engraved in my brain.
To me, Sing is one of those movies that, when you first see it you think it's pretty decent, then over the years you get more critical about it, but I would see it endlessly until the end of time for no real reason
@@deathmetalstudios434 it would be funny if all the characters in family guy voiced by seth macfarlane had high-pitched voices, while the mouse is also trying to do the voices of all of them but failing horribly
I dont agree, i like this movie the characters are cute. i dont really care if they are animals. 24 nick frames is just hating this movie for reason that you dont think in this movie. Like i just had fun and thats what ilumination movies are. But i obviously respect your opinion.
As far as the sheep swimming: I think that if sheep get submerged under water they have a substantial risk of drowning if their wool gets saturated with water it becomes heavier than it's bouyancy. So a sheep swimming is kind of against it's survival nature. If I remember correctly. Lazy tongue in cheek stories behind subpar animations grinds my gears also. Nuff said.
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Yeah, they DID make this movie, it was Happy Feet. It was about penguin mating season and was weirdly h*rny for a kids film but at least it was interesting with actual characters. The environmental stuff thrown in at the end was cheap though. EDIT: love how everyone’s hyper fixated on the last sentence and not the actual point. In hindsight, yes there was more of the environmental stuff in the plot than I gave credit for, but I still feel the execution could have been better for the last bit of the movie. Stop commenting about it.
Cynical Person. I remember that movie mostly because of the sexual stuff but I also remember sleeping or just not giving attention to the movie , I remember also waking up only at the terrifying or emotionally moments and the good looking scenes but I don't remember anything about the plot
Believe it or not, that could probably also work with SpongeBob if it was above water. Though, some of the visual gags like the constant explosions would have to be toned down.
@@pepearown4968 Yeah, but Spongebob was created by an ex-marine biologist, and this movie was created by someone who probably doesn't care about any part of it whatsoever And while you can replace Spongebob with a regular guy named Bob - I don't think it would be the same, not just in the gag area, it simply wouldn't feel the same, cuz those kinds of shows tend to have their own atmosphere, their own vibe if you will But there - you literally change then to humans and it doesn't change your experience whatsoever Doesn't change the plot, doesn't change the vibe, and gags you won't even remember to miss And it's because Spongebob as a show has character, and if you change this character - people will notice This thing aren't even remotely on the same level, it's bland af, it has no character to begin with, so, really, weak comparison And I can't even think about any other show, that would work the same with humans, if it's not something as bland and uninspired as this cashgrab
Back when I took creative writing, one of the main takeaways was that if there is a central aspect of a story that can be completely removed and not change the core of the story, then it shouldn’t be there. That’s how I feel about this movie. None of the characters have to be animals, it adds practically nothing.
From what I heard on a similar video's comment section, the only reason they're animals is because they're easier to animate They were so lazy they couldn't even bother for human animation, despite them doing actually well with it
I take it you hate Ducktales, Talespin, Mickey Mouse, Robin Hood, and just about every children’s cartoon that features anthropomorphic animals? Also, you may have misunderstood that part in creative writing. What your referring to is a plot element that takes up space in the story, but if you remove it, nothing will change. Here is an example: Imagine there is a car scene in a story, which involves two characters talking about something. It goes on and on, but has absolutely no relevance to character or story. If you take that out, and it affects or shows nothing relevant, then it shouldn’t be there. Them being animals is simply a choice of design and creative choice, rather than actual story plot or writing. The movie was made for children, and talking, cartoonish animals appeal to them a lot more. I mean, asking why they have to be animals is like asking why Mickey has to be a mouse, when he doesn’t eat cheese, live in a hole, or squeak.
@@datemasamune2904 Fair point, phrased it badly and it was hearsay from IHE's video iirc, just reciting what I was remembering I do like anthropomorphic animals, I enjoyed Zootopia, and to some extent I enjoyed this movie, it was just me reciting a comment poorly, but I appreciate you actually responding with a constructive reply as opposed to the other side of the internet who'd bash me for being wrong
That gorilla has committed war crimes. That koala has committed tax fraud. The pig is just a pig. Those porcupines are aegahhahadffjdh. Best movie ever.
You know, I wouldn't be surprised if the koala actually did commit tax fraud. Or he asked his secretary to do his taxes and she committed fraud accidently somehow.
It was actually from Kingsman: Golden Circle! Taron Egerton plays a spy and Elton John was being held hostage. Good movie! They met on set and Taron had sang that song to get in to school, then this, then rescued Elton John in a movie, to NOW playing him. It's amazing
@@BugsyFoga this song is the one he sang to get in to school, then he sang this same song again for this movie, then he was in a movie WITH Elton John and now he played Elton John in Rocketman
When you said there’s a second one coming out, I fucking screamed “NOOOOO”!! I swear to god that company is slowly killing American animation, we need a new wave NOW.
Disney: barley even does animation anymore, and when they do it's so hyperrealistic it might as well not be animation Other studios: generic focus grouped to death extremely safe marketing team produced movies that happen to be animated This does leave quite the market open for actually good animated movies
Nah, there's actually a *lot* of good animated shows nowadays. It's just that we tend to look to the big studious more focused on making money and making the nth family guy clone
Ofc i thought Taron's performance was my favorite cause he was the only one with actual character writing and the end performance was a acceptable way to end it.
i wish the movie was structured more like the chorus line musical? like it would fit the vibe so well and not look as sloppy. also them singing only these overused pop songs just killed me 😭😭
Sorry but I still remember when Drew Goodwin tried a bunch of Magic Spoon and you can’t tell me they’re good based on his description of the weird aftertastes.
I find it funny how the Johnny's dad says "I have no son" when Johnny tells him about being part of a music competition, but excitedly yells "THAT'S MY SON" when he sees Johnny performing on the prison TV.
...that's the point. That's called character. He doesn't disown Johnny purely because of the competition but a number of things, though seeing Johnny's talent instead of judging him a failure because Johnny isn't a clone of him leads to the change of heart. The scene makes it clear that Johnny's Dad realises in that moment what stupid mistakes he's made as a father and his resulting regret.
@Magnet Gorilla dad (before son sings): "Singing? No! You're going to suck at it and be an embarrassment and you're going to make me a laughing stock and..." Gorilla dad (after son sings): "Wow! I was wrong. Great job! I have to break out of prison now that I have a good reason to."
I love how the only real animal specific thing that happens -- porcupine girl's quills go everywhere -- isn't actually a thing that animal can do, lol Edit: changed hedgehog to porcupine can you guys PLEASE read the replies before you comment that I messed it up it has already been pointed out
They should have made the Porcupine a Tarantula (Tarantulas actually do flick hairs everywhere) that could play multiple guitars at the same time due to the multiple legs.
I always had mixed feelings about Illumination. They got everything they need to become another Pixar: creative ideas, talented artists, a distinctive animation style, likeable characters and much more. Yet it feels like they kinda minmax with their movies and always go for the safe strategy to get the most money with the least possible risk. And this can make their movies mediocre, and even obnoxious, but I can't help but ask myself: is it really that bad? In a world where most of the animation media belongs to Disney, this may be their only option to gain a foothold and remain independent. To take the least possible risks. I really hope Illumination remains, and once they're more estabilised in the industry, they eventually grow out of this stage to use their full creative potential.
it’s clear there are good and great artists and writers in illumination but i doubt the heads will ever allow them to expand past this potential. because if they did they risk loosing money or not appealing to the audience illumination tries to appeal to, which is tired moms and their children at 3 pm on a saturday
IHE's video on Sing was spot-on. The cast of characters are each made to cover a wide archetype of people so that at least one of them appeals to your average viewer. It is the equivalent of hashtag relatable memes. They aren't characters, they are empty vessels for people to go "oh my God that is so *ME*". Also, the fact that such a huge studio repeatedly reuses background characters in such an obvious way is absurd. I get that it's something most kids won't notice, but even for an average movie-goer details like this can subconsciously take you out of the immersion (not that this film is immersive at all). Third off, why isn't this a short or something? It has no story and spends so much time doing absolutely nothing. Oh wait, because like I said before it has to appeal to everyone and they have to give each bland and unoriginal face a shit ton of worthless screen time! There is almost no animal-based gags either, which comes across as lazy. Yes, shows like Bojack Horseman have anthro characters and only occasionally joke about the different types of animals, but honestly this can not be compared to Bojack Horseman. It's in an entirely different league and this movie has nothing to make up for lack of animal gags.
Oh, 100%. The first few episodes are rough, but it picks up in the second half of the first season, and just keeps getting better and better. As a fair warning, though, it gets REALLY depressing, so I’d recommend watching it in chunks instead of binging all of it!
@@Orizln GIF stands for "Graphics Interchange Format." The initialization should start with the same sound as the phrase it stands for. This is why George Oscar Bluth Jr.'s initials are pronounced "jobe" instead of "gobb"
Nick: "I'll just make a joke about banning music, there's no way that would be important or relevant in the news 3 days from now!" Taliban: "Hold my opium."
i think what you're missing about sing is that it's just a very satisfying piece of easy to watch media even if you think the music is cringey or the jokes are dumb, the incredibly tight editing and charming character designs are spectacular to watch, it's an animated musical for animated musical's sake tldr iTs fOr kIdS
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@@theonlyethanhiroshiki what about a movie about a history of Earth but told from the perspective of the Moon Completely silent, because no sound in space, length - couple of billions of years, pictured in colours that human eye cannot begin imagine to percept No narration, no storyline Just the Moon, watching silently Earth's slow descent into madness of humanity
Please tell me I'm not the only one who enjoyed this objectively fine family movie and can appreciated the weaving of multiple character story lines that all vary with some even packing a nice emotional punch🙏 . I really hope I'm not alone.
This movie isn't actually awful. It's just a generic, pandering, safe, forgettable, cookie-cutter, field-tested corporate product made only with money in mind, like all other Illumination movies. It just happens to be on the higher end of the Illumination spectrum.
