Thanks for this, an informative & entraining video. The SU-6 sure is a solid DDC that is unmatched for its number of digital outputs for under £1K, there are a few DACs out there that accept I2S via RJ45 which this has (Metrum, Sonnet, etc).
Really like your presentation, and the video game music showing the Singxer. At first I thought, "another wannabe smartass trying to be funny and different." But after five minutes in (yes, I was generous!), you are now my #1 reviewer! No pomposity, good humor in unexpected places, and easy to understand. Should I get the Denafrips Iris since I own the Ares 12th-1? Or the Singxer?
Thanks! I haven’t tried out the iris so I can’t comment on how good it is. If I were to go the Denafrips rout, I would check out Hermes. It’s got multiple digital inputs which could be useful. 🍻
@@MisterChibs Thank you for your reply. The Hermes is a out of my league financially. I suspect the Iris should do a decent job. I'll have to try it out since I stream from Audirvana through my laptop.
Just found your channel…and am enjoying it. Plus, I have two set-ups similar to you: Main and Office. (I made some posts on your Lumin U2 Mini Post). I feel, while taking a risk, compelled here to make two posts. One over concern about wackado you…and one about the tech. "Wackado YOU" 1st. Upon watching your Lumin U2 review, I was taken aback (and JEALOUS!😮), of your 🔥Flame Thrower🔥…I mean…what boy wouldn’t be…but in this video…do not think for a minute that I missed how "over-knifed" you were when opening the rather diminutive package for this DDC. Couple that with how your discussion of "The Girl is Mine" immediately descended into violence…well …I thought I should reach out and let you know that we are ALL here for you! 😀 (All in good fun…BTW, I have an extensive pocket knife collection! 👍🏼) Great review!
Your reviews are among the best. Discovered your channel a while back. Based on your review of the SU-6 and one other from a reviewer I think is great, I bought one. What dip switch settings do you use with the Venus? I have a Pontus II and I think it would use the same settings. Denafrips DACs are not listed in the SU-6 dip switch chart, so I tried the first column settings, labeled PSAudio. It didn't work, and I followed the Denafrips instructions on how to select one of eight possible settings in the DAC to match the DDC being used.
Thanks! I use PS Audio setting for Venus and believe it’s the same for Pontus. Not sure what’s going on but I believe switches 1 - 8 Off, 9 -10 On for PS Audio. Hope that helps. 🍻
@@MisterChibs Thanks that does help. I've been experimenting and music plays with the PSAudio setting with no distortion. The solution was to change my HQPlayer PCM sampling rate to a multiple of 44.1and DSD was already working without distortion.. However with DSD from HQPlayer the left and right channels are reversed when playing a channel sweep. I may have to contact Alvin at Vinshine audio.
Thanks Mr Chibs, it's my first time watching your channel - very, very good - and looking forward to watching your other videos! I have an Innuos Zen Mini Mk3 w their LPSU upgrade >> feeding a Marantz HD DAC-1. I've read so many good reviews of the SU-6, however, then I heard about the "Ideon Audio 3R USB Renaissance mk2 Black Star, An affordable USB conditioner device to Re Drive - Re Clock - Re Generate the USB signal." It's from Greece, rave reviews, and about $500 USD. It's NOT a DDC, but supposedly a very competent reclocker. So, I'm only after sonic improvements, wondering if you or your subscribers can offer pros and cons vs the SU-6? Given the high pedigree of your main system, I think you'd enjoy trying the Ideon...thanks!
Thanks for the heads up on the 3R. This is the first time hearing about it. I think if I were to buy and review an other DDC / Re clocker it would have to have multiple types of digital inputs. I’ll give it a look. 🍻
You can get USB DDCs with TCXO, standard or femtosecond clocks options for much less money if you look around. Ironically, USB 5v or external 5v PSU, so no need to buy an IEC to get going. Thanks for the review regardless.
Thank you for another informative and entertaining video. I also own a Venus II and am considering adding a DDC. I am curious why you didn't go with any Denefrips DDCs. Also, is it relatively simple to configure I2S for Venus?
I went with Singxer because it was well established and reviewed at the time. I'm guessing DDC's from Denafrips are good as well. I'de like to try out Hermes or Gaia at some point because they offer more inputs than the SU6. For the dip switches, I just followed the instructions for PS Audio standard and have left it that way ever since. It wasn't hard, you just have to make sure you get it right. Glad you liked the vid, thanks for watching! 🍻
. The latest DACs strip away the incoming line clock signal then use an onboard cache and re-clock. It's the same way the Singxer overcomes the incoming PC or Laptop usb clock. So that part is useless on the Sinxer. Acid Jazz, Funk & Brass 🔈🔉🔊
@@MisterChibs Testing? What's to test? It's a self-apparent function. External DACs don't rely on Master clocking anymore. I don't even think the latest USB configurations dedicate a channel to clocking anymore. It's a surround channel now or that HT related BS.
@@MisterChibs . How do you think the Singxer overcomes the incoming clock then? If Singxer can do it for the benefits, so then DACs & they do. (edit) The Singxer's fancy clock is useless. The Singxer will only function when the DAC requires a packet or packets of data to replenish the DACs cache. Acid Jazz. Funk & Brass 🔈🔉🔊
@@MisterChibs I see it with my own eyeballs. LQQK.... (pointing finger) that's the clock. that's the hdd cache and there's the controller chip. My personal eyeballs are fine. I don't think I can post a pic of my DAC with circles and arrows.
Does this DDC actually eliminate the dirty sound coming from a PC or MCPro? That is my main reason to buy this device. As of today, I simply can't tolerate the buzzing sound from my I Mac to my hegel190...
Yep! Assuming there isn’t something else going on in that scenario, the SU-6 should get rid of that. Make sure you buy with a return policy in any case and let me know if it worked! 🍻
How did you find the digital out of the wiim? I sold my dac which had a built in streamer and figure I get the wiim to use with my new dac until i get something better later.
I have only used the Wiim mini so far. Have the Pro in a drawer, still wrapped in the box 🤣 Got it back on Amazon Prime day. I'm assuming the Pro is just as good as the mini if not better. For the price, you can't go wrong as long as you don't use their internal DAC's.🍻
Enough to know it works. I didn't include the Gan-1 in testing as it was already an ambitious amount of gear. I'de suspect the same improvements if used in between the Node and Gan-1. 🍻
Biggest problem with cheap DDCs is they are USB-only... that's a HUGE bummer because, as you said, most devices don't have an USB output and use optical or coax instead.
@@MisterChibs that would be amazing!! If you know some cheap DDC with opt/coax input please make a video!! I've been searching one for a long time without luck.
Funnily enough my Denafrips Iris just arrived today and I hooked it up between my Mac Mini and Pontus II. Any effect that I perceived today is subtle. Wider soundstage and a little more detail. Could also be because I was listening harder!
I had a DDC in the early 90's it sounded good but DAT was more popular and won the digital cassette battle.. and then still lost 😂 Imagine my surprise seeing the title😂 By the way I see 3 I2S ports, 1xrj45 and 2x HDMI. Any reason you mention only 2?
Thanks for sharing. I could have easily made this video 60 minutes, tediously articulating every single spec. Instead, I spoke about the ones that are relevant to me and showed all inputs @4:36. My reason for doing this is to save you guys from a completely dry and boring experience.
Schiit DACs like Bifrost 2 don't need such gimmicks as they already have galvanic isolation and great USB implementation. Recommend going that route if you can.
@@denis4072 Galvanic isolation is no gimmick when you’re using a gaming PC source. It’s the difference between ground loops and noise versus dead silence.
I am using Bifrost 2 with Singxer SU2, it is lower model of SU6, I modified SU2 by replaced the power supply to external 5V linear power supply, I feed coaxial from SU2 to Bifrost 2, sound is better than I feed USB to Bifrost 2 much.
@MisterChibs that's just ridiculous you are talking about the greatest game changing steamer in the industry. Not using hype here after the audiophiles discovered it now we have a 2nd wave of retailers discovering it in 2024. Nothing sounds better than PCM reclocking, pleasing to the ear and cognition. Bass is delivered on time and is accurate beat. I have been using a SPDIF PCM dejitter device for the last 20 years.
@@MisterChibs okay I asked cuz I saw 190 in your secondary setup. I haven't been watching much of audio reviews lately so don't know the state of your set-ups. Good luck with the follow up. ✌️
Get educated about physics before you criticize it adding weight and mass to anything will reduce micro and macro vibrations which will benefit circuits,granted you have to have a high resolving system in most cases to hear a difference which most people do not have and can’t afford, so many scepters like yourself
Ohh Ok U get paid by Singer so my original comment was deleted? Sorry DDC or just a computer interface overpriced jist use a PC with low noice power $100 can brig that outcome
Lol I don't work for Singxer and did not delete your comment. RU-vid automatically deletes them if they're nasty enough to go against their guidelines. Too bad, I like the nasty ones 😉 We can disagree on the 100 $ power supply equaling the Singxer SU-6. After all the testing I've done, I know better. Thanks for watching. 🍻
. Glass Fiber Optical Out from a PC. No noise even electrically possible. Re-clock & cache in the DAC. It's the best possible connection. Acid Jazz, Funk & Brass 🔈🔉🔊
@@TriAmpHiFiI wish your statement was accurate, It's the fiber doesn't create new noise however, I will definitely pass what's inside the PC through the fiber!!! That's why I build my own power supplies & filtering and check it with an Oscilloscope. ( All noise has to be stopped at it's source or it propagates)
@@thinkIndependent2024 Sorry, pardon me................... "It's the fiber doesn't create....." Say what now? & "I will definitely pass what's inside...." Like a kidney stone or something? Acid Jazz, Funk & Brass 🔈🔉🔊
@@TriAmpHiFi Let me clarify fiber is not magic !!! If I connect fiber at the bottom of a 400 ft tower my input to that fiber must be a clean signal. ( To transmit without distortion) Example:When I connect TOSlink from CD or DAC any noise in that source will be transferred regardless of the fiber! (The ecosystem is always in play) Pardon my colloquialism's I can explain it in full technical terms if you like? I personally reduce the power supply ripple to below . 000001 volts in my audio system sources.
@@MisterChibs interesting. I have mainly seen the denafrips iris, gustard u18, master audio-x, the cheapest I have seen is small po100 pro. Have seen streamers have multiple in.
You didn't find "The Girl is Mine" authentic because Michael prefers little boys and Paul knew that so he didn't bring his A game....just a theory...:)
They both sound amazing though and the song is super catchy. This sometimes happens to me with songs like Short shorts by the Royal Teens. "Who wears short shorts, we wear short shorts." Over and over for days. 🙄🔫 Thanks for watching! 🍻
There was nothing nasty @ All !! It may be when it sees brackets instead of parentheses!!! .( From the Google keyboard. I'm saying it's just a single board computer with open source software! If you power a fanless Mini-PC with a low-noise power supply " Voila " connect a low cost DAC for multiple outputs. Until I built my home theater my test equipment was top of my budget @ 40k Current DACs use asynchronous communication so those clocks are less critical than the in past days. Eliminate noise and digital shines add the right harmonics ( Tube or SolidState) it can sound better than Analog
If you pair SU-6 with that computer, you'll notice improvements. As long as you're enjoying your music that's what matters most. My wife listens on her iPhone speaker 🤣
@@MisterChibs Actually the SU6 a computer that's why I use a Mini PC just load Volumio, Daphile or others it turns the processor into a FPGA with more flexibility That's coming from someone who owned a computer before Apple Corp was founded ( Me)
@@MisterChibsI said earlier "Asynchronous Data " which lowers the accountability on the clock works on DACs made in the last 10 years are so MFGs omit that fact and exploit that it was once very important.( Not the same today) The Asynchronous technique that runs your phone all the streaming communications ( even dial up modems) Satellite communications. ( Eliminate the need for a master clock) The USB Audio protocol developed about 20 years ago fixed the problem" In the Beginning " USB was not fully capable of audio transfer and relied on a continuous clock stream.
