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Sinkhole Fields & Pottery Sherds in the Cactus Gardens 

Crime Pays But Botany Doesn't
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In this episode of Crime Pays we visit a sinkhole feeled in the Tehuacán Biosphere Reserve, and inspect some of the anthropological AND biological place issues of interest.
Thanks to www.PlanetDesert.com for throwing me some fine specimens of some of the interesting cactus species found in this episode. Check out their inventory of cacti and use code CRIMEPAYSBUTBOTANYDOESNT10 to get a discount real nice.
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@CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt
@CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt Год назад
Interested in growing some of the plants featured here at home? Check out www.planetdesert.com and use code CRIMEPAYSBUTBOTANYDOESNT10 at checkout for 10% of your order. They got all kinds of nice (and rare!) shit over there!
@i-love-comountains3850
@i-love-comountains3850 Год назад
WOOOO!!!! LET'S GOOOO!! Thia channel has really changed my perspective about the world around me. Thank you, truly. I'm about to start trying to propagate a (pardon my ignorant/nonexistent taxonomy) pad cactus, and some other very odd looking cactus and a succulent that I cannot currently readily identify. Thanks for recommending the iNat apps in your other videos. Question - i got a box of halogen par floodlights for free, would cacti be happy with the light and heat from those at a reasonable distance? I live in usda ag zone 6a if that matters much or if you or anyone here have any other recommendations for care of cacti/succulents/orchids/adansonii. Thank you for all you do, friend. KTGFYB.
@CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt
@CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt Год назад
@@i-love-comountains3850 there are companies that actually make LED lights that produce in the UV spectrum that are supposed to be good. But generally, you want to go as strong as possible when overwintering cacti and be sure to put them back outside in brighter light once temperatures permit. Getting a fan for airflow is important, too. The çooler your temps are indoors the less you will want to water.
@i-love-comountains3850
@i-love-comountains3850 Год назад
@@CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt Thanks! I'm gonna get a couple seedling heat mats for my more warmer climate plants and I've got light and air in the works too! Thank you!
@i-love-comountains3850
@i-love-comountains3850 Год назад
WOAH!! I'M HYPED, Y'ALL!! ru-vid.com MENTIONED THIS CHANNEL!! On his most recent video on his second channel The Roads With Beau ru-vid.com/show-UC_x7nc3Vi4BPgmNnMsz774A and I dropped a link to your channel too for people too lazy to search themselves lol
@BigBandLittleClub777
@BigBandLittleClub777 Год назад
What a great idea definitely going to purchase plants, so much fun!
@VangoghsDoggo
@VangoghsDoggo Год назад
That pottery was wood fired, probably very old. I rewatched and what you are standing on looks like it may have been a wet area or spring at one time. The way the pottery was eroding out of the side of the hill might be a place where pots were wood fired and the broken ones left behind. That black chunk may have been melted in a wood kiln after repeated firings. An archeologist may be interested and could date it. It also looks like it was hand built clay with the inside showing where the coils were joined and smoothed over, the outside would have been smoothed with a stone/polished so make the outside look nice. I also noticed a lot of foreign specks in the fired clay, telling me it is older because the impurities were not screened out when the pots were made.
@thatsalotofsodiumcoins1615
@thatsalotofsodiumcoins1615 Год назад
Are they Native American?
@craighoover1495
@craighoover1495 Год назад
Thank you Joey for bringing us this prickly cathedral. Complete with catacombs.
@richardtoston964
@richardtoston964 Год назад
It amazes me how well those cactus blend in. Perfect national cactus garden.
@sacramentofoodforest
@sacramentofoodforest Год назад
Facts
@onemoreguyonline7878
@onemoreguyonline7878 Год назад
This is pretty much the most chill I've ever heard you be Tony. You wonderful bastard you. Thank you for taking us on another one of your beautiful adventures.
@TotalDissolvedSalamanders
@TotalDissolvedSalamanders Год назад
As a soil scientist it's always interesting to hear your prespective on geology and soils when it comes to veg and ecological regimes. Also gypsic and carbonatic soils behave drier because carbonate/gypsum/salts can only hold 2/3 the amount of water compared to "average" soil, so veg like ocotillo can help identify alkali or shallow soils (often from quartzite or similar extremely hard geology). Looking at the area it looks like fine sediments baked together with some intense chemistry, it's a wonder that those plants can survive and thrive in it!
@swaddington9399
@swaddington9399 Год назад
I’ve always been interested in identifying soil based on what grows there, it all tells a story 😊
@TotalDissolvedSalamanders
@TotalDissolvedSalamanders Год назад
@@swaddington9399 As soil develops and changes the veg does so as well. Vegetation is extremely fleeting in a world of generalist and exotics; so knowing your species can help get a gist of some factors on the land, but you gotta dig the hole and get your hands dirty to actually understand and know the soil.
@swaddington9399
@swaddington9399 Год назад
@@TotalDissolvedSalamanders that makes sense, always lots of variables! I just started using soil charts for nutrient levels and moisture, but it would be great to learn how to identify minerals and more details later. It is very interesting.
@GcTheHardstyler
@GcTheHardstyler Год назад
Shit like this is why this channel is the only one I'll willingly go to the comments for 🤣 Thanks for your input
@paytonlott5183
@paytonlott5183 Год назад
You know it’s a good video when you hear “oh there’s a banger” multiple times
@michaelsams9434
@michaelsams9434 Год назад
I've been growing some cylindropuntia (mini cholla). I keep em in a mixture of perlite and turface. I've been trying to take your advice and growing mostly native plants. I visited one of the nurseries you featured in San Juan Capistrano and purchased a Tecate Cypress and Eriogonum Fasciculatum. I also planted a Torrey Pine and an Agave that I found discarded on the side of the road that's now about 3x the size as when I found it!
@alejandrorobles6865
@alejandrorobles6865 Год назад
Be aware, some of those pottery shards are actually ancient, i find them all around my grandpas' land in Mexico state, me and my cousins have even found clay dolls, gives you an idea about how active indigenous culture used to be. It's also normal to find ancient kitchen utensils like volcanic stone mortars and metates
@timrudd3318
@timrudd3318 Год назад
That has to be the most interesting thing the internet has throw my way recently. I appreciate your enthusiasm about plants
@nllg1273
@nllg1273 Год назад
The aerial footage you include is always a joy. I live far away from the arid-americas, and so its always nice to see what cacti in the wild are like.
@kirkha100
@kirkha100 Год назад
Awesome landscape! Sherds near us still bear fingerprints of their makers. Not too far from us, Ruppia seeds were pressed into the mud of a now dried up lake bed by kids feet. This allowed carbon dating. Pushed human presence (that we know of) back to between 20,000 to 22,000 years ago. This was at White Sands, N.M.
@TimeBrutus
@TimeBrutus Год назад
Thank you for bring us "sleaze bags" 😂😂😂 another great episode!!!
@Ludvig11
@Ludvig11 Год назад
Beautiful, magical landscape. I hope it's a protected area to some extent... I especially like that purple cactus (Echinocactus platyacanthus) and the trees with big trunks (Beaucarnea garcilis) and the purple Solanum.
@lucyb15
@lucyb15 Год назад
I would never see this place if not for you, thank-you!
@wellurban
@wellurban Год назад
What a gloriously alien landscape! At least for those of us more accustomed to temperate zones, those moonscape badlands and sculptural cacti and agaves look like a science fiction planet. But thanks to you I can see the similarities to the plants around me, such as Cordylines and Sophoras, that are in the same families as the agaves and mimosas you’re showing here. A few months ago before I started watching CPBBD I wouldn’t have had a clue!
@hhheee3939
@hhheee3939 Год назад
The diversity of this blue marble we live on never ceases to amaze me. Thanx 4 takin us along on ur journey around and what the shit.
@williamfullofwood7421
@williamfullofwood7421 Год назад
Those drone shots are gorgeous!
@caverli
@caverli Год назад
What a badass landscape. Never heard of the place, even as a caver.
@adams6782
@adams6782 Год назад
Best channel on RU-vid. Period.
@cacogenicist
@cacogenicist Месяц назад
Top-2. The other is Paul MM Cooper's superb _Fall of Civilizations_
@joshualennox3599
@joshualennox3599 Год назад
What a tour. That was awesome
@unclefrogy743
@unclefrogy743 Год назад
so interesting to see the natural environment that these plants come from very different from seeing them in botanic gardens or nurseries. I envy you the explorations but thank you for taking us along.
@elizaonthemountain3464
@elizaonthemountain3464 9 месяцев назад
Lived in Mexico as a child in an area that looked just like that. Damn man, thanks for the tour❤ Your enthusiasm and potty mouth fkn crack me up.
@chuxmix65
@chuxmix65 Год назад
Another nice one! Thanks again for bringing us along...
@ulalaFrugilega
@ulalaFrugilega Год назад
The end was shocking. But I am in proper awe!
@x1777-x
@x1777-x Год назад
Incredible biodiversity
@Zed871
@Zed871 Год назад
This video is just what I needed after a shitty day, much love Joey
@frankmacleod2565
@frankmacleod2565 Год назад
Thanks Tony
@k8eekatt
@k8eekatt Год назад
I haven't seen any of your videos for so long I'm really glad this one popped up!
@xXScissorHandsXx
@xXScissorHandsXx Год назад
11:00 I did not know that Tony, good to know 😉
@seththebeatmxchine
@seththebeatmxchine Год назад
I appreciate a landscape and just flora and fauna in general because of this guy.
@errhka
@errhka Год назад
This is one of my favorite places you've visited!
@StevenWalling
@StevenWalling Год назад
"I would not like to fall in a hole." Yes indeed.
@raphlvlogs271
@raphlvlogs271 Год назад
sinkholes and craters usually stay cold for longer due to cold air accumulating in there with no where to flow away
@alandonaly457
@alandonaly457 Год назад
2 weeks ago I missed this, or got preoccupied. Anyway thank you for showing this beautiful place, cactus and other desert plants are nice. I can't really travel myself so this is the next best thing. Try not to break your ankles. GFYB!
@hallcody3
@hallcody3 Год назад
Awesome environment there, that looks to be Native American pottery to me, I find similar stuff here on the gulf coast of south Florida. On the one shard you held up you can actually see the marks left by the hands that built that pot. Probably some really neat stuff that has been eroded down into that crevasse off that ledge over the hundreds of years that site has sat there abandoned. Would be cool to share that with a local archeological team to relay their finding to you. Maybe you’ll get to name the site?
@katiekane5247
@katiekane5247 Год назад
You oughta check out "Old World Florida" channel. Not what you'd expect. There's some interesting history that's been chlorinated for the masses.
@hallcody3
@hallcody3 Год назад
@@katiekane5247 it’s funny you mention that because I had just become a new subscriber of that channel.
@agento5952
@agento5952 Год назад
So damn beautiful!! Thank you kindly!
@clearobsession3409
@clearobsession3409 Год назад
Thank you for sharing your knowledge..
@vinman2043
@vinman2043 Год назад
That's why a healthy garden of San Pedro, bridgesii n some yotes keeps a man happy 😁
@karmakazi219
@karmakazi219 Год назад
What an amazing place!
@thedudegrowsfood284
@thedudegrowsfood284 Год назад
Magnificent natural garden!!
@AmericanaGardens
@AmericanaGardens Год назад
Love these landscapes!
@DOGMAFREE1
@DOGMAFREE1 Год назад
Hope you get to visit my home state DURANGO.. Mountain rural area. salute my guy. BadaBing!
@projectmalus
@projectmalus Год назад
Money shot for me was the Agave potatorum at 24:21 thanks.
@sandrams7939
@sandrams7939 Год назад
Omg, cactus heaven. Growing well and hopefully they will be there for long long time.
@lewdards1127
@lewdards1127 Год назад
i love your impersonations, you nail the voice lmao
@garyelbert907
@garyelbert907 Год назад
Your amazing as always...gracias !!
@flakesinyershoe8137
@flakesinyershoe8137 Год назад
I've had some really good luck with the Irish setter boots. Think I'm on year 3 with mine, naturally they killed off that particular model so I'll probably give the name brand red wings a try next time.
@subverted
@subverted Год назад
The Beaucarnea recurvata is common in cultivation and not the wonderful/mysterious Beaucarnea gracilis! Huntington sold off a few seedlings of them in 2019.
@janewhite2331
@janewhite2331 Год назад
Fascinating film thanks
@EK-xz8ig
@EK-xz8ig Год назад
What a gorgeous, terrifying place!
@stephenmorton8017
@stephenmorton8017 Год назад
dang thorny place. watch your step.
@piperplays2
@piperplays2 Год назад
Working on some Lipochaeta spp. specimens right now in the herbarium at SF State while watching this.
@Nobody-cw4wm
@Nobody-cw4wm Год назад
Pleasantly surprised to have a video midweek…nice.
@LukeMcGuireoides
@LukeMcGuireoides Год назад
Wow, that place is freakin insane
@nickbono8
@nickbono8 Год назад
Wow, that place looks like a botanical cactus garden planted by humans!
@Mis73rRand0m
@Mis73rRand0m Год назад
I will forever know thatlast Agave thanks to reading it as Potato Rum first.
@QuakerEarthlingMer
@QuakerEarthlingMer Год назад
I think it's "shards" but somehow"sherds" seems like cactus parts doesn't it? Love this one! Was hoping you would come visit in Harlingen. The City was threatening ti fine me.2k per.day for.overgrown vegetation. So we removed most.of.the non-native Duranta the bees etc. loved and that shaded a now-hot window... and MX Corona Vine. We still have a few hundred species front and back. City says we can't be a wildlife refuge at less than 1 acre. Are you coming to our Native Plant Project meeting coming up? Volker will donate if asked. 3 cheers for your great work. If only we could do a similarly engaging RU-vid series on climate for the ignorant degenerate public. Am getting desperate!
@gaywizard2000
@gaywizard2000 Год назад
I thought it was land of the free?
@CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt
@CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt Год назад
It's sherds. Would make more sense if it were shards but curiously it's nahr
@raeperonneau4941
@raeperonneau4941 Год назад
Super cool.
@yfrontsguy
@yfrontsguy Год назад
That must be one of the most beautiful flora you have visited!
@lisve
@lisve Год назад
Damn thank you for showing us!!! Loved every second
@TheOldladyB
@TheOldladyB Год назад
Really enjoyed this. Thank you for sharing.
@sueme1954
@sueme1954 Год назад
There is a book called A New Leaf. The movie has a happier ending 1971. Very much worth watching. I would love to hear a review of it.
@greenbeecolony1911
@greenbeecolony1911 Год назад
Love the bark on that one
@britlew5933
@britlew5933 Год назад
I liked the legumes coming out of the horseshit 🤣🤣🤣
@bretttobin9632
@bretttobin9632 Год назад
Nice. 4k awesome. Would love to see that place when flowering.
@anthonycarrillo2689
@anthonycarrillo2689 Год назад
Bro toooo good! Was too into it she you said “fuck you goodbye” lol. But was the best part
@chemicalcowpoke307
@chemicalcowpoke307 Год назад
nice one. real bangers!‘
@itookallthenames
@itookallthenames Год назад
More bangers than 1980s Slayer
@flowergranny3218
@flowergranny3218 Год назад
The Beaucarnia in nurseries is B. recurvata.
@racheller8753
@racheller8753 Год назад
Rectal poultice ...🌵yes yes!!
@BigBandLittleClub777
@BigBandLittleClub777 Год назад
So good, we can't get enough of your videos, seriously ♥ ♥ , you are a truly amazing dude! Thank you, my brain is starting to understand more every video!
@aragon2552
@aragon2552 Год назад
You really should come to the canary islands some day
@philgriffiths5514
@philgriffiths5514 Год назад
Potatorum….. Woooo Wooooo NICE
@workerant7874
@workerant7874 Год назад
Very cool
@1088933
@1088933 Год назад
I might have missed it, but what causes the sinkholes like that? Water being removed from the aquifer faster than it is replaced?
@i-love-comountains3850
@i-love-comountains3850 Год назад
That's one of the many causes of sinkholes or "sonotes." My only experience with them is in the Lost Creek Wilderness State Park. Really cool place if you ever get the chance to go.
@Skoomz
@Skoomz Год назад
@@i-love-comountains3850 *cenote is the properly spelling. Sonote doesn't mean anything
@CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt
@CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt Год назад
No just the ease with which gypsum in the soil is dissolved in water.
@Yestradamus-
@Yestradamus- Год назад
Collapse of underground limestone voids originally dissolved by acid rain. Cave collapse. The caves could be subaqueous. This is 4000’+ elevation so … water flows downhill below as above ground.
@rubynoils2872
@rubynoils2872 Год назад
Love me some Plumeria!
@Sean-fh9nj
@Sean-fh9nj Год назад
wow that Bursera looks like a Portulacaria afra
@fenrirgg
@fenrirgg Год назад
Those bromeliads trying to be agaves xp The diversity there is in another level, wonderful!
@katiekane5247
@katiekane5247 Год назад
Somehow I missed this earlier. Always good stuff Joey!
@hannahphilbey1456
@hannahphilbey1456 Год назад
Come back to Australia, WA! I’m too lazy to travel there from Queensland, BUT I could watch your adventure via the Tubes
@Alexander_Alexander
@Alexander_Alexander Год назад
"once you've endured the texas heat, you can do anything" Aint that the fucking truth.
@Invading-Specious
@Invading-Specious Год назад
Thank you X
@MBroam
@MBroam Год назад
I love your vids so much, I jsut wish you would do more on the weird shit of the American South East (the deep southern south east...)
@thecrookedanvil
@thecrookedanvil Год назад
Evolvulus looking like a sand dollar
@jabroni8535
@jabroni8535 Год назад
Look at that
@placidpond
@placidpond Год назад
I contend that TX (Austin Hill Country) Swiss cheese karst was formed in the shallow Cretaceous inland sea by the drilling of the abundant Ammonites in the calcium carbonate deposits.
@Grimm-Gaming
@Grimm-Gaming Год назад
Now THATS what id call badlands.
@Vanbooskie
@Vanbooskie Год назад
Ayenia Fruticosa, Nice
@ManOrWomanIDK
@ManOrWomanIDK Год назад
God damn that ain't the prairie!
@kevingarden340
@kevingarden340 Год назад
Karen voice on point!
@Martyr217
@Martyr217 Год назад
For some stupid reason I've followed for over a year on FB but never thought about checking out to see if there was a RU-vid channel. So I have a bit to catch up on it seems. 😂😂😂
@robertmcmanus636
@robertmcmanus636 Год назад
This was a particularly good one for some reason...
@Langonica
@Langonica Год назад
What an amazing fucking place
@KyleTheShaman
@KyleTheShaman Год назад
💚
@FB-gm6el
@FB-gm6el Год назад
to me that erosion looks like it was recent, and sudden/catastrophic...ask the locals if they had some mega rainfall event in the past 15 years
@swaddington9399
@swaddington9399 Год назад
Have you seen rose halls before Joey? Not a plant but still looks like those tree bromeliads. Cool stuff
@ThomasSmith-os4zc
@ThomasSmith-os4zc 10 месяцев назад
The pottery looks Post-Classic, Prehispanic.
@leeanncory91
@leeanncory91 Год назад
Wondering if there are any possible inhabitable cavettes and holes that people may have used at one time? Kind of like the tuff cavettes of northern NM (like Bandelier NAtional Mon.
@canadiangemstones7636
@canadiangemstones7636 Год назад
Jesus what a spot to botanyize. Slip on a jagged potsherd and you got a facefulla cactus and fall into a goddamn 20’ hole.
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