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[SISI] Abyss PVP - 30mil~ ISK Caracal that can run T3s and PVP! 

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@scottbell324
@scottbell324 5 лет назад
Alright, so I been running this a LOT. I can confidently run electricals in this. I die maybe once every 10 times to NPCs. I have gotten in the pvp room many times. Often no one else is in there and I get to loot the cladistic cache, but it averages like 20m. I have fought quite a few people, and died to them all. I came very close to killing a blue vedmak who didn't see me on overview until he was in hull (and I was in reload). I also came close to killing an Orthrus who spawned very close to me and had wrong missiles loaded. I have kited and stalemate-ransomed a couple people for a little bit of isk. I'm not sure if this can kill anything, even though I have come very very close with overheating.
@distantknight29
@distantknight29 4 года назад
Would a dps rig help you think? Like maybe a bay loading accelerator or warhead calefaction catalyst?
@scottbell324
@scottbell324 4 года назад
@@distantknight29 Yeah it would, but then you would lose the survivability. You absolutely NEED the shield rigs to live. Since I posted this comment I have actually managed to kill a few gilas by defanging them and wearing through their shield before the timer. zkillboard.com/kill/77820084/ zkillboard.com/kill/76894173/ zkillboard.com/kill/76550460/
@distantknight29
@distantknight29 4 года назад
@@scottbell324 oh nice. I personally would do an active tank fit with 2× large shield extenders, a medium SB, MWD and a cap booster. Then probably T2 RLMs in the high slots and BCs in the lows along with a DC. Rigs wise then i'd put shield rigs like maybe a field extender, core defense operational solidifier and either a capacitor safeguard or a semiconductor memory cell, depends on which is more efficient.
@scottbell324
@scottbell324 4 года назад
@@distantknight29 That fit would die every time. MSB just can't keep up and would likely give you cap issues. You need the buffer from the three large extenders, and the invuln is very necessary. Also, all your tank is in your shield, if you get to armor you're probably dead anyway, so a DC would just gimp your fit even further. The fit is perfect as is, any modification, literally even the smallest modification, would be a mistake.
@NovaValentis
@NovaValentis 6 лет назад
man your videos are really top quality!
@IAmNumber4000
@IAmNumber4000 6 лет назад
I made this fit on tranquility I tried, I tried But when I did a site, I died, I died
@RanaRandom
@RanaRandom 5 лет назад
lets share our pain :O. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Btt-x5DbQMk.html
@kuroikenjin7652
@kuroikenjin7652 6 лет назад
If you swap the mwd for a Y-T8 compact and the battery for a Compact Pb-Acid, you can swap out the PDS 2 for a DCU 2 to help out resists. End up with 35.8K ehp. May need L5 skills. Also tempting to sink the isk on tech 2 extender rigs... but that's the cost of the ship in each.
@eveiseasy
@eveiseasy 5 лет назад
That's true. If you are only interested in the PVE portion of the electrical sites that would probably be a better fit overall, since with the downgraded battery, loss of PDS and mwd you'll still be cap stable with the electrical fit on you. In PVP sites though you'll lose a good chunk of stability and it could become an issue.
@kuroikenjin7652
@kuroikenjin7652 5 лет назад
@@eveiseasy Actually, I didn't change it that much. I just swapped the battery and mwd for meta levels so I can fit more resists instead of power grid help. The battery is probably the only module with notable stat decrease. Here's a more comprehensive look: (Anyone know how to export pyfa fits in this old listing style?) [Caracal, Sutonia Abyssal Tweaked] Rapid Light Missile Launcher II Rapid Light Missile Launcher II Rapid Light Missile Launcher II Rapid Light Missile Launcher II Rapid Light Missile Launcher II 50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Medium Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery Damage Control II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Medium Core Defense Field Extender I BTW, I forgot to say, Good Video!
@aa-zj9hv
@aa-zj9hv 5 лет назад
A triple leshak room (2 blinding, 1 striking) destroyed me. No real chance against it, couldn't lock outside of 40km so by the time I'm applying damage their beams are already ramped up. Also about half of their strikeneedles decided to orbit the striking leshak, taking them out of my sensor damped targeting range. I'm not sure if that is intended behavior, but it definitely worked for them in that situation.
@scottbell324
@scottbell324 5 лет назад
You could have survived this by burning straight at the leshaks, orbit the transfer conduit at 500m, and you can kill up to 4 leshaks with your first RLML clip if you start moving right away. Once you get close, they aren't hitting you, and then when they die you just clean up the strikeneedles.
@ANARCKO5
@ANARCKO5 5 лет назад
my caracal died brutaly to the sleeper bs in the first round :)
@eveiseasy
@eveiseasy 5 лет назад
Yeah I've died a few times to it too (mostly SISI), feels a lot better once you get the hang of it.
@RanaRandom
@RanaRandom 5 лет назад
me too :O ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Btt-x5DbQMk.html
@jonathanohagan1349
@jonathanohagan1349 6 лет назад
nice as always suitonia
@xxlegolas
@xxlegolas 5 лет назад
You're the man! Sorry for that time in Delve we blobbed your Hecate, our miners may be morons, but they're OUR morons :)
@lmarangue88
@lmarangue88 5 лет назад
Very cool video, love the idea of push T1 hulls as hard as you can, but saying this fit CAN run T3's is a stretch presently. I do L3's very comfortably in my cheap-fit Gila all the time, I have good missile and shield skills and took the 3% Pyrolanceia to boot. I'm not sure if there has been re-balancing since this video perhaps, but I've run your fit on tranquility and I'd say this fit COULD make it happen with lucky spawns only, but you can't guarantee success at all, lost every attempt so far, but got close a few times. All depends on your luck with spawns, if you have the battle cruiser / battleship spawns consider close to half of the site time gone into cutting them down in that room (Especially the Drifter spawns). If you get frigate / destroyer / cruiser-sized spawns only, you fly through the room, no sweat. When getting tougher spawns, the Caracal hull is either leaving you trading off too much DPS or tank to be effective here. Consider running this fir in T3's rolling the dice ;)
@scottbell324
@scottbell324 5 лет назад
Nope. I have been practicing in this fit and I don't die at all. This ship can handle any spawn and combination of rooms if you learn how fly it correctly. I take almost zero damage when I fly this. Even the hardest rooms only take me like 6 mins including scooping loot.
@flightevolution8132
@flightevolution8132 6 лет назад
"SSJ3 Kestrel"
@xCharlieConwayx
@xCharlieConwayx 6 лет назад
how are you supposed to do this without dying?
@schnoodles9538
@schnoodles9538 6 лет назад
Thank you for this. I did not realize the Abyss sites were being toned down. I know that on today's TQ the Abyss sites are damn near impossible to run CONSISTENTLY in a 30mil isk T1 cruiser. I have the most success in a Omen Navy Issue in Electrical site. Knowing that a toned down T3 site will all for more T1 variety is great news. Will the T4 and 5 Abyss sites be adjusted too?
@FEDORSTALKER98
@FEDORSTALKER98 6 лет назад
Gila is t1 also lol
@MarkoLomovic
@MarkoLomovic 6 лет назад
@@FEDORSTALKER98 Gila is pirate cruiser, can't really compare it to t1 cruiser. There is a reason why gila costs 250mil and t1 only couple mil....
@mechaninisorfejas4574
@mechaninisorfejas4574 6 лет назад
Why not to use L-ASB instead of one LSE, will give you capability to deal with drifters and even with tanglers if they get you, plus you get some nice aditional EHP in general, 3 sets of caps for cycles shouldn't take too much room too
@carlchallinor4933
@carlchallinor4933 4 года назад
Tried several times, theres no reasonable way of doing this unless you get very lucky.
@garremp
@garremp 6 лет назад
thank you for sharing this fit i use it for doing level II+III abyss but have you ever killed anyone in this fit?
@eveiseasy
@eveiseasy 5 лет назад
Killed another caracal, killed a Gila going to the timer.
@aquamote
@aquamote 3 года назад
This doesnt work above T2
@Katauri
@Katauri 5 лет назад
Hey, I'm very new to EVE, please help me to understand what is the point of abysses? I mean not PVP ones. You have only 20 mins, but you have nearly 0 time to collect all cashes (loot). What are you supposed to do there, to have actual ISK? Is there also a cache with loot after you complete PVE abyss? I've never done one before.
@Zaluskowsky
@Zaluskowsky 4 года назад
1 cache is always close to the gate. Basicly this is time pressured pve
@haomingxia2109
@haomingxia2109 6 лет назад
can you make a video of 30 mill Rupture/Thorax/Omen abyss fits
@distantknight29
@distantknight29 4 года назад
I dont think thats really possible. Those ships would require brawler fits, and i can tell you for free that a Stabber is twenty times the brawler a Rupture is simply because it gets a buff to range (fleet issue gets buff to tracking which id say is better)
@haomingxia2109
@haomingxia2109 4 года назад
@@distantknight29 Thanks!
@distantknight29
@distantknight29 4 года назад
@@haomingxia2109 no problem. If you got any more questions fire away. I'll see what i can do
@dankyden
@dankyden 3 года назад
@@distantknight29 yup, fleet issue stabber can run t3s with some fancy piloting. t2s are a breeze.
@FEDORSTALKER98
@FEDORSTALKER98 6 лет назад
Welcome to caracal-vexor online(again)
@raimonds.L
@raimonds.L 5 лет назад
by under the drifter you mean how close?
@Silverraptorvideos
@Silverraptorvideos 6 лет назад
Are you able to run other sites T3 with this fit? Or is it just electrical?
@eveiseasy
@eveiseasy 5 лет назад
Electrical is by far the easiest, other sites are possible but neuts are a lot more annoying.
@xxlegolas
@xxlegolas 5 лет назад
By the way, what's up with your D-scan columns? It looks like 50% of the space is wasted because the Name and Type columns are really skinny.
@LeW_42
@LeW_42 4 года назад
it doesn't work even with perfect skills. Do i need powergrid implants or what?
@lespretend
@lespretend 4 года назад
Yea I don't know wtf is going on with his sheet saying like 369 dps. PYFA fitted with perfect skills is like 274dps.
@SoftBreadSoft
@SoftBreadSoft 4 года назад
Video is from 2018. Missiles have been nerfed multiple times since.
@MajorLilywhite
@MajorLilywhite 6 лет назад
I don't think this works in TQ yet
@WarDogLRS
@WarDogLRS 5 лет назад
How do i get my Offence "123.4" to your "369.7" My Shield skills are lvl 5 & most all other skills are 4. thx.
@lespretend
@lespretend 4 года назад
8months old but you mention offense, but post info about your defense
@GiantJ4ck
@GiantJ4ck 5 лет назад
does not work, die all time, skills all 5 and i know what i do edit: first 2 trys = dead, third try made it in to pvp room and got the loot after 5 min only ~30mio... but it can work, first room was BS and i was down to 5% shield when came under his guns ;)
@Bergerons_Review
@Bergerons_Review 5 лет назад
I dont get it, I have 19km range on my missiles u have over who know how big? Your dmg output with his build seems way too high for me.
@davianthule2035
@davianthule2035 4 года назад
Dave Wineman skill points
@KingxCobra11
@KingxCobra11 6 лет назад
How comes my powergrid is over by 20? I cant fit this for some reason :/
@KingxCobra11
@KingxCobra11 6 лет назад
@Jay Dub Yeah I was missing one can't remember now, I just couldn't see it when looking haha
@shauljonah6955
@shauljonah6955 5 лет назад
I have done the conduits and they are easy and best to use just EM damage just pull the information up on the ship and it will tell you what it does and where it's weakest and strongest at on shields armor and hull/ structure. My game name is Budsin Adar fly safe o/ o7 Shalom.
@MannyKunV
@MannyKunV 5 лет назад
i tried this. i just dont do enough damage to clear the rooms in time :\ or i got shi spawns. im also alpha clone
@slycooper1415
@slycooper1415 4 года назад
Same
@LeW_42
@LeW_42 4 года назад
I can't believe how cheap your caracal is
@jokiab
@jokiab 5 лет назад
Can a alpha clone fit this fit?
@AntoineGomez
@AntoineGomez 4 года назад
With the same fit I have 246 dps !
@borges3099
@borges3099 6 лет назад
Hey suitonia, did they nerf or buff tier 5s?
@eveiseasy
@eveiseasy 6 лет назад
Not sure, I haven't gotten around to running any since the expansion.
@ThereWasNoFreeName
@ThereWasNoFreeName 5 лет назад
Caracal what can run T3s is a Cerberus.
@carlosniebla7534
@carlosniebla7534 5 лет назад
This is impossible in TQ
@Eiskar
@Eiskar 6 лет назад
Why are You using this FOV?
@bobar84c
@bobar84c 6 лет назад
its like that in certain abyss sites
@darkracer1252
@darkracer1252 5 лет назад
because the abyssal site forces him to
@skatatataatje
@skatatataatje 5 лет назад
Really cheap. Meanwhile I am sitting on a staggering 21m isk
@utweakermolotov142
@utweakermolotov142 6 лет назад
Would this be do able with an alpha?
@eveiseasy
@eveiseasy 6 лет назад
I don't think so.
@stevanmiladinovic4007
@stevanmiladinovic4007 5 лет назад
yes. did it with an alpha. (don't do it tho...)
@scottbell324
@scottbell324 6 лет назад
Can you run gammas too?
@eveiseasy
@eveiseasy 5 лет назад
Yeah
@ryanbthiesant2307
@ryanbthiesant2307 6 лет назад
CCP can their be a pvp leaderboard ingame.
@darkracer1252
@darkracer1252 5 лет назад
how about asking ccp. do you think any of the devs are watching this random dude's video?
@re-educateparasanar474
@re-educateparasanar474 4 года назад
@@darkracer1252 they usually do it to find exploita and counter the meta
@alanshroue7
@alanshroue7 6 лет назад
I am Defo doing this
@Adam-rs4en
@Adam-rs4en 6 лет назад
How does this beat a curse or a gila?
@darkracer1252
@darkracer1252 5 лет назад
it does not cost several billion isk to fit out
@stevanmiladinovic4007
@stevanmiladinovic4007 5 лет назад
with luck and skillfull piloting.
@seredaom
@seredaom 5 лет назад
In theory, it can beat due to higher missiles range: so if you stay at 50-60km and kill drones before they kill you,, you have a chance to apply DPS while they can't reach you.
@skatatataatje
@skatatataatje 5 лет назад
So this has been "balanced" to shit.
@ivisa9130
@ivisa9130 5 лет назад
Bullshit fit braa you cant tank those i think you did like 10 runs until you got a ez one i tryed the fit dont work i died in first room
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