Superbly explained. Very clear to understand. Had confusions over many concepts but listening to her has made everything very clear. The questions were very intelligent and the answers were very profound. Thanks.
So well- explained as always Sister Shivani. No doubts whatsoever. A ten year old can understand & a 60 + can understand too. It is all about Self- transformation. No rote- learning of the scriptures & throwing flowery words around. Got you.
Such Type of Debets on DHARMA,Should be Organized by every Public school and Colleges for Real Development of the Student's and their Cultures.Om Shanti.
It was such a fascinating and deeply connecting conversation with Sis Shivanee and Satish Sharma .I enjoyed every bit of it . Two have been functional at different levels, quite often, in their interactive moments . But I am happy the confluence happened ..confusion was made clear finally .thanks
Great video Satish Ji .. one thing with The Brahma Kumaris that I dont agree with is their softly softly approach to a kaliyug world.. if all Indians followed their utopian principles,India would be totally Islamified now. Nutan Varash ki Shubh Abhinandan to all watching this video 😊🙏
great insights, samskara-dharma connections. Pundit's questions were not addressed in a few places. I would like to see the questioning pundit on the right side - answering our many questions!
Very well said regarding our sanskars being responsible to bring in Sat yug. But, what about when we are faced with attack and annihilation? I love the lion, because it is my Dharma. But the lion's Dharma is to devour me. We're both following our Dharma! This is what is happening today. This kind teaching is being misused by the "lions" of today, and I hold the experimentation responsible for misunderstanding of what Dharma expects from us. Why isn't self defense, defense of Dharma given it's due place?
It’s painfully tiring to sit through and listen to Shivaniji skirt around the important questions raised by Pandit Satishji and miss the core issue. It’s lengthy sermonising with a patronising tone, light years away from reality. Thank you for bringing this interesting conversation as it separates the wheat from the chaff. 🙏😃
Brahmakumaris teachings are simplified to masses. Its like getting the essence of our scriptures and serving to masses in practical and systematic way. If you think deeply, Brahmakumaris teachings one way or the other relate to our ancient scriptures. Finally, as Swami Vivekananda says, an ounce of practice worth a thousand words.
@@namanarya1288 the real BK understanding - God has given the criteria for change - those criteria includes: 8 Souls 100% Pure and Perfect, 100 Souls almost 99.9% Pure & Perfect, Hindu & Muslim Civil war in Bharat and Finally Nuclear War. First criteria - 8 Souls are ready. Most of the 100 Souls are ready. Next Two Criteria - You know better too.
It is amazing to see how BK Shivani simplifies concepts for a lawman to understand even if that person might not be believing in God. It is so easy to fall prey and feel what she says is so simple and the reality cant be so easy. but the truth is It has to has to be simple so that everyone can apply it.
This was superbly done. Satishji demonstrated adhikaar in his very being - his line of questioning, his authority and his probing without being rude or offensive. Under that gaze, Sister Shivani could not hide behind platitudes... I think people like Sister shivani have their place - as teachers of what I call kindergarten spirituality - introducing people to thoughts and concepts that they might not have access to otherwise. One cannot deny the good done as a result of that. The problem is when the same institutions and teachers don't create a passageway to graduate out of Kindergarten, as a good KG teacher should. This interview felt like a KG teacher having to answer questions that would apply to a graduate level teacher - the struggle was real. This does not undermine the KG teacher's role - it's is important - but when the BKs present themselves as PHD and beyond, keeping people limited to their mish mash combination of concepts borrowed from Hinduism, abrahamic religions, new age philosophy, psychology and some so called 'channelings' - all couched in super soft, sweetly spoken words and gestures - that's when it becomes harmful.
you couldn't have summarized it better. Shivani looked clearly uncomfortable fielding certain questions and, she took recourse to deft hand gestures and smiles and, clever choice of words, all signs of a weak philosophic base. The BK cannot teach us Sanatanis how to stand up to jehadi aggression and how to eradicate the threat root and branch. By perfecting the art of training my own sub-conscious (the 'Antah-karana') to accept and process every transaction with 'soul power', I can progress inwardly, but the Jehadi is not going to spare me. Hard power must be used. The 'Kshatriya' spirit must be kept alive and must be applied where and when necessary. If soul power was it, why did Brahma Baba leave his native Sind and migrate to India and settle in Rajasthan ?
Hi. I am an IITian and my family has been associated with BKWSU for more than 40 years now. I don't actually wish to state that I am an IITian, but in this world, intellectual capability is measured by that, so for the sake of it, I am saying. The Teacher in BKWSU is Incorporeal Shiva, the Supreme Energy. If you have any doubts, you can directly clarify from Him. Rest everyone is student here, including you, me and any other guru, or his sayings. Whether someone is at KG level or graduate, is not determined by the level of intellectual cramming of scriptures, rather it's measured by the many other things. Aim of BKWSU is to bring heaven on Earth, and in my opinion, they are making up to it very efficiently. And please note, no one is demeaning the teachings of Hinduism or any other religion. We all are souls, brothers. Many maha mandaleshwars, and other religion heads, clearly show their consent with the teachings of BKWSU and that this knowledge can make an ordinary human into deity like virtuous. Sir, I respect you and your thought process. I was also like that initially. Best wishes for your spiritual journey. Om Shanti.
But Shivaniji was repeatedly trying to not answer many questions, and instead divert the talk to some other issue. That is why she was NOT giving short answers, and trying to hide behind long answers. Om Shanti🙏
I love this Sister. BK Shivani is really a genius of spiritual teaching. She's very very special. A world class spiritual leader. And extremely unassuming. A high level of intelligence and influence. Very interesting session. Extraordinary - she's not a normal speaker. She's really something special.
She was dodging - or unable to debate. She kept going in circles. In my opinion these are the bubbles Hindus live in which don’t prepare one for opposing views. Rajiv Malhotra would have more to say,
It is quite shocking how she and her order teaches unconditional acceptance in the mundane plane we are living in as of now in Kali Yugam. So, there is no distinction between Dharma vs Adharma; Srīrāma vs Duryōdhana; Srīkrishna vs Rāvana. All are same, it seems. What a travesty! She was nailed by Satish-ji that she doesn’t make the distinction between Dharmakshethra and Kurukshethra plus no Adhikāra is necessary. What went wrong in Satya Yugam was deflected rhetorically, in my view. If such Ātmas degenerated from Satya Yugam to Kali Yugam, then it is self-contradictory to teach without the qualifier called Adhikāra. What effect did they have? Were they able to turn any religious terrorists to give up their violent ways or all this approach is only to tell Hindus to give up resistance? She was stitching random words together. An Ātma lived a 100 times before doesn’t mean all Ātmas now are at the same evolutionary stage that all can be taught the same lesson. I have seen in my personal experience, no matter how much ever you teach the same thing to different people, different people understand it differently, some to the point of completely distorting what was taught. The same things we see in our colleges too. What a person understands determines who stands where in a class. Next, if all are same, then what does Srīkrishna mean by sva-dharma and para-dharma in Bhagavad Gīta? She was showing signs of Arjuna Syndrome pre-Bhagavad Gīta. My suggestion to her is to go to Syria and regurgitate what she said here with ISIS terrorists. If unconditional acceptance is Dharma, then why did Srīkrishna tell Arjuna to not accept Duryōdhana unconditionally? Instead, Srīkrishna was very explicit in asking Arjuna to fight the battle in this mundane plane, even though both Arjuna and Duryōdhana were Ātmas at higher planes. Satish-ji subtly exposed her and was very gentle on her. But any discerning mind would easily understand the hollowness in her Adhārmic explanations. There is a lot more to analyze her, but this is enough in my view.
Namaskar MaheshJi, I think around minute 16 she is very clear that that is the way they perceive things in their order. So, if our understanding is different, as mine is, there is still no point in nailing her or whatever. I may not endorse to many things advocated by them, yet, i must admire their work in bringing so many people to the Dharmic fold, through different doors. As abt adhikar and adhikari we can have a very long debate, based on diff perspectives, whether we use Manusmriti, Gita, or any other scripture as our basis for such debate. Or, we base it on our own personal perspective, as in my understanding Sanatana Dharma allows it. This is my personal perspective 🙇🏻♂️🕉
Everyone has different spiritual views but only we need to take into practice is good thoughts and good deeds in our daily living to be a good deserved in God’s given life. Using divine Samskars to give peaceful Sanskar 🌎🙏🙏🙏
Just for a moment, open up to this point of view: Sri Krishna was a king and so were pandavas. May be the gita was the knowledge of that one supreme god. May be the kings ordered their rishi-munis (who knew gita gyan) like ved-vyas to distort the Gita gyan and write it for them, according to them so that they be remembered for generations. Otherwise if there is a god who is father of all, would never kill anybody. That too for meagre things like in Mahabharath.
Sister Shivani is so beautiful. Speaks knowledge on dharma. However, Satish completely failed to ask her the right questions for her answer the questions he has about appropriation, conversion, Hinduphobia and Anti-Hindu propaganda of leftists and evangelicals. His important question about adhikara over Yoga was was skirted by her - she either is not aware of disgusting digestion of Yoga by westerners, especially in UK, who claim “Modern postural Yoga” as a western invention. Since he did not ask his questions explicitly, Sister Shivani was able to totally skirt the issues and not answer those difficult questions and challenges Hindus face today. The very idea of Self as Divine comes from Dharmic traditions - Sister Shivani is unable to go into what Rajiv Malhotra brilliantly does - explain “Being Different” to difference anxiety, sameness, western universalism etc. Satish ends up towing Sister’s agenda. Very frustrating - one can just feel Satish’s frustration! He asked a great question about why Satyug moved towards Kalyug. Her explanation of ring was not convincing. Disappointing to see Satish fail in having Sister speak on the issues - only a knowledge session.
Raginiji, she was my guest, on my home turf as well as being a person actually DOING something in accordance with her understanding, all very very important aspects. I hoped to lay bare and visible and fully comprehensible, the essence of the BK offering and the key points where, I feel they are terminally incomplete, but to do so with courtesy and respect. There is a great deal revealed in this interview... without crucifying her! Afterwards she, graciously remarked pensively, that she has never been asked the questions which I asked, nor had to give some of the answers which she gave ... To make a person dig deeper is the hope of a Pandit .. .. thank you so much for watching and commenting ji .
@@Dharmarakshaka Thank you Satish for your sincere efforts. We learn as we go and I do appreciate how difficult such interviews are. Indeed, I did not expect you to “crucify” her but I think she is capable of having “difficult conversations” and deal with difference anxiety vs sameness. Again, appreciate your efforts. Namaste.
@@COHHE "but I think she is capable of having “difficult conversations” " You must be all knowing being! Thanks for gracing the youtube comment section and guiding the ignorant.
Unless Ragini's questions are addressed the present challenges against Hinduism cannot be resolved. Like ISCON and other Dharmik corporate houses that delivers intellectual pastimes are not able to fighting ravages against Hindus in Bangladesh and other areas. Regards
I would want someone to dig into Pt. Satish K ‘s mind like the way he is asking questions. What are his answers to these questions from his perspective. Shivani ma’am’s vibrations are very positive and she does attract me to bhrama Kumari but nir-akar way is difficult to apply in real life because it’s all in your head there is no confirmation from outside and some how I get confused and I feel it’s all in my head. And even about the roles part the each individual has its own uniqueness. How can everyone be taught the same syllabus and be expected to excel in their uniqueness? (Assuming there god isn’t going to enlighten you or you aren’t the chosen one) Like if we are to bring back satyuga, Ram Bhagwan had to kill Ravan who was a devoti for golden are to arrive, Krishna had to also kill his kans mama, or even in the recent case jhulelal had to come to save Hindus against mirikshah to convince him otherwise. He even has muslim devotees - one of the reason why partition wasn’t as bloody shedding as other parts. Or even Guru Nanak created Sikh samaj or Maharaja Ranjit Singh united all 10 gurus to protect DHARMA. And it can simply mean that to achieve something that big, people will be required to be specialised and united & coordinated on all fronts.
धर्म (Dharma) is not religion ❌ सर्वेशु जीवेशु (all beings) and matter have dharma or matter has visheshta in vaishshik. But water doesn't have religion #SanskritNonTranslatables Book by Rajiv Malhotra
Sharma ji is very knowledgeable of course how are we going to impart knowledge to completely illiterate individuals? GOD keeps it simple straightforward for the World transformation all religions and not only Sanatan Dharma has to be included. Other religions are not going to understand all sanskrit Slokas. You are entitled for your opinion and so is GOD. 🙏
Sister shivaniji is on point ....I see alot of divinity in her , she is simple and loving, just like God's nature...no need to dig on being kind ....kind is just kind which equals to God
you've got it wrong. the original teaching of the Hebrew people (Israel) upon which Yeshu Masih based his teaching is that the goal of a soul's spiritual journey is to become perfected and holy as God is Perfect and Holy, and implicit in that is the understanding that it takes a long time and more than one life to accomplish that goal. within the first century in Judea where Yeshu Masih was born, the Jews/Israel believed in reincarnation, it is even recorded in the Gospel that some Jews perceived Yeshu Masih as a reincarnation of one of the Hebrew prophets of old. Yeshu Masih never rejected or denied the concept of reincarnation.
@Dharma Defender you're talking out of ignorance. many thousands of people throughout the centuries, across the spectrum of cultures throughout the world, Asia, Africa, Europe, the Native America, Australia, had encountered the Risen Yeshua Messiah in their own cultures. Yeshua revealed himself DIRECTLY to them and transformed their lives to the point that they realized they wanted and needed to follow him as their Ishwara and Satguru (using Sanskrit terms). there was a king from Java island in the 19th century who was an ascetic and meditator in the Javanese spiritual tradition, he never read the gospels before. but he enountered Isha/Yeshua in his dreams and received communications from him. only later when he heard the gospel, he realized it was the person who met him in the dreams. I can cite hundreds of testimonies from Chinese followers of Yeshua who experienced many miraculous interventions from the Lord Yeshua in their lives in the midst of their sufferings and persecuted and oppressed by the communist government. from India itself, many Hindus, Sikhs have encountered the person of Yeshu Masih -- one prominent figure from early 20th century India was Sundar Singh, who was raised deeply in the various religious scriptures and practices of India by his own mother and in his youth he sought spiritual counsels from various rishis and spiritual masters. but it was only after beimg visited by Yeshua himself in his meditation that Sundar Singh experienced the deep peace that is permanent and even intensified whenever he experienced suffering and trials. Sadhu Sundar Singh was known among diverse Indian religious communities of that time. MILLIONS of people who truly encountered the Living Messiah should be differentiated from so-called christians who only have a dead religion, dogma oriented and not a personal and real relationship with Prabhu Yeshu.
@Dharma Defender ok. so I leave you with your stupidity and ignorance. a blind man shouting "there is no such thing as a sun and moon... you're being fooled" should be left alone with his crazy mind. goodbye 👋👋
The approach is different than conventional thoughts expressed by various literature in Sanatan Dharma culture. Deep thoughts of different aspects of life need to be appreciated. Dharma she's talking is a big confusing for her. Dharma is not religion. You can refer to the difference in the post I'm sharing. The Sanskars nothing but experience and seeing around what's going on growing up. My Sanskars in India are different in different 50 years back compared to the experience I'm giving to my kids in Canada by way of performing Puja, Yogasanas, taking Malas, going to temples, chanting and dancing in pure happiness in addition to what they see in society and watch on TV and videos as well as in the school over which neither me nor teacher, Government, peers have any control due to policies forming based on needs felt by the leaders, especially elections. Like an elephant killing ants on the way which is beyond control of elephant who has been controlled by Mahut sitting on him who can't see ants. The protection system of Sanatan Dharma, Kshatriya, has been demolished over the period. Present policing system isn't working anywhere in the world. In Kashmir, people who are not doing any violence were killed just because the belief system. Just by not accepting the problem (Denial), you can't solve any problem. She lacks the balance of Purusha(Atma based theories) and Prakruti (Practical experience) like many in India. This hypocrisy has cost Sanatan Dharma a lot. Time is now to change!
Seriously, Dharma is religion of soul ! Sister Shivani is spreading bhram. If she would have listened to the questions asked by Panditji her delusions would have atleast shifted . Looks like she is not willing to unpack. In 1937 there was no social media and how many westerners appropriated Yoga or printed Ganesha on panties? Shivani was so preachy and completely out of sync with Santana Dharma and it's pristine and pure teachings shared by Rishis. All her answers scream C-U-L-T
These Brahmkumaris style religious cults are big reasons why Hindus do not try to understand true and evil face of Christianity and Islam because these cults spread message to their followers that all religions are same. It is apparent when we see the trademark of Brahmkumaris and puttapurrhy Sai baba..but it is bitter truth that almost all of the followers of these cults are Hindus and no Christians or muslims.
Please kindly look at the establishment serving number of countries where there are no Hindus. Logically majority will be Hindus, as they are from Adi Sanatan Devi Devta Dharma. 🙏
I’m not sold by BK philosophy, she contradicts herself when saying she was chosen from among very expertbrahmakumaris , this tells me that everyone is different and therefore their grasp of knowledge will be at different levels of understanding. You cannot teach a child how to operate an eye or heart but you need to be qualified to do so. Her use of soul for Atma shows her shallow understanding of dharmic traditions. Also she uses Dharma and religion as translatables. She failed to impress me.
Ok so her logic is that starting from Satyuga when people's Sanskar were Satyugi and yet people gradually started to forget somehow they were pure soul and have ended up in Kaliyuga and therefore should practise Satyugi sanskar now and everything will become blissful. Absolute bullocks. Cringe worthy to say the least ..i feel sorry for her
Yes in the souls journey they keep losing the purity levels, as this is the law of nature to keep changing. Hence we travel downwards, just like morning changes to afternoon to evening to night. However to travel from night to morning again or changing from tamopradhan to satopradjan requires efforts.
Wow the cavalier throwing around of words and lack of adhikara drips from the sister. Blind leading the blind. She talks of how it is everyone's RIGHT to learn things rather than presenting paatrata to learn. This right based understanding is a western one and so the sister here has merely polished and painted some ideas but the core is severely lacking and meritless
Unconditional respect?? lol. I realized at this point that I don't care for her views. If hindus follow her, they will get pied-pipered in to walking over the cliff. These are the kind of gurus that make hindus impotent to deal with the asuric forces.
The questions were not addressed. The primary question was the Hindu Identity. This lady just regurgitating what she has been thought. Very weak intellect.
She is delusional. It's the people like pandit ji who operate in the real world and deal with the real issues, while she does in an imagined world where her "pure soul" will automatically change things. If only osama knew about her existence lol.
Sorry don't agree with this. It goes against all dharmic principles and Adhikar as pointed out. I don't think she knows what she is talking about. Another fake movement. It's a pacifist movement, every successful dharma economic system has Bhramin, kshetriya, vaishya and shudra.
