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@FeriaAllenkempf
@FeriaAllenkempf 20 часов назад
*Larry Burkett's book on "Giving and Tithing" drew me closer to God and helped my spirituality. 2020 was a year I literally lived it. I cashed in my life savings and gave it all away. My total giving amounted to 40,000 dollars. Everyone thought I was delusional. Today, 1 receive 85,000 dollars every two months. I have a property in Calabasas, CA, and travel a lot. God has promoted me more than once and opened doors for me to live beyond my dreams. God kept to his promises to and for me*
@AlichGeorge
@AlichGeorge 20 часов назад
There's wonder working power in following Kingdom principles on giving and tithing. Hallelujah!
@MarleneLasile
@MarleneLasile 20 часов назад
But then, how do you get all that in that period of time? What is it you do please, mind sharing?
@Gerhardwallensteiner
@Gerhardwallensteiner 20 часов назад
It is the digital market. That's been the secret to this wealth transfer. A lot of folks in the US and abroad are getting so much from it, God has been good to my household Thank you Jesus
@Gerhardwallensteiner
@Gerhardwallensteiner 20 часов назад
Big thanks to Ms. Chisty Fiore❤️✨💯May God bless Christy Fiore services,she have changed thousands of lives globally
@TonyJackson-zd6lq
@TonyJackson-zd6lq 20 часов назад
How can I start this digital market, any guidelines and how can I reach out to her?
@josephvida3409
@josephvida3409 4 дня назад
Sister Wilhelmina please intercede for the USA for the conversion of our country. Amen 🙏 ❤️
@maryannerazzano7692
@maryannerazzano7692 4 дня назад
Amen 🙏
@debraboyea7776
@debraboyea7776 4 дня назад
Amen.
@clivedytor2069
@clivedytor2069 4 дня назад
I am a Catholic priest and I don’t celebrate the Old Rite but am mystified why there is such a hostility towards “ traditionalists”…yes, there are some nasty Traddy websites but the great majority are good devout Catholics and don’t deserve being persecuted. Fr Clive
@davyrantucci
@davyrantucci 4 дня назад
🙏❤️
@georgepaladino2501
@georgepaladino2501 4 дня назад
Thank you for your comment, Father Clive
@maryannerazzano7692
@maryannerazzano7692 4 дня назад
I agree Father
@a.t.c.3862
@a.t.c.3862 4 дня назад
If there are such 'good TLMers', why have they been so quiet, so complicit, for so long? Because they agree with the nasty Traddies. The Latin Mass must be brought to an end.
@tojesusthroughmary8932
@tojesusthroughmary8932 4 дня назад
You wish..​@@a.t.c.3862
@jads9296
@jads9296 4 дня назад
Fr Mark, a man from my town went to venerate Sr’s body during the viewings before she was reinterred in her crypt. He was cured of advanced cancer and the Church is now investigating the possible miracle.
@christinewallace9251
@christinewallace9251 4 дня назад
How awesome!!
@smcgrg
@smcgrg 4 дня назад
That's incredible ❤
@r.m47
@r.m47 4 дня назад
Wow
@thuyanh6734
@thuyanh6734 4 дня назад
Pray that her canonization would be as quick as Carlos Acutis 😃...I mean INCURRUPT BODY and MIRACLES... what more do you need?...🙏🙏🙏😇
@mammyb.1849
@mammyb.1849 4 дня назад
During a very sad time in my life, I made a rash decision, nothing immoral, just took on a huge responsibility that I quickly realized was a mistake. I was frantic and people were unhelpful and unkind. I made a mistake = no mercy. But my tender hearted Savior inspired me to make up my own novena to Sister Wilhelmina and 3 weeks later, He moved about a million puzzle pieces in an instant and delivered me from the situation. And delivered me in such a merciful, kind, gentle way!!!! I am soooooo grateful for Sister’s intercession and I have no doubt she chuckled when God finally resolved it. Thanks Father Mark!
@sam12587
@sam12587 4 дня назад
Do you happen to recall the novena? I’ve wondered about her since hearing about her in 2023.
@sA-ny2jl
@sA-ny2jl 3 дня назад
I had drifted from God and I ended in bad mess with very powerful bad people. I had committed no sin, but was caught in their web of lies & evil. No human could save me.. In desperation I turned to Jesus, returned to Mass daily & Rosary. This continued for 2 yrs, Jesus carried me in His arms through it (my motto became, things can always get worse), I asked people to pray for me & they asked others. Then Jesus did miracle. When I told a friend that knew what was happening the miracle, he shouted right in the parking lot for everyone to hear, THERE IS A GOD! Jesus comes to us at Mass in Eucharist & remains with us until end of time as promised. He wants a deep friendship with each of us, He is our BFF, Eternal Son of God. Perpetual Eucharistic Adoration available online. (Please pray for me, my health is out of control)
@meschoooter6027
@meschoooter6027 3 дня назад
My prayer group leader told me years ago (he is deceased), "M, if you'll let God work it out He'll not only work it out He'll work it out better than you ever could have." Seems to be so.
@meschoooter6027
@meschoooter6027 3 дня назад
@@sA-ny2jl I bookend my day with the Rosary. Have been doing so for many years. It does make a difference. I would tell anyone with so-called 'mental health' issues to do it. It has been effective for me. Led to daily Scripture reading, which is the bomb.
@georgie6733
@georgie6733 2 дня назад
Praise Be To GOD 😇🔥🙏
@marieswann3204
@marieswann3204 4 дня назад
Levefrve may be the Catholic church’s saving grace as for as priests go.
@AndrewAMD
@AndrewAMD 2 дня назад
Lefebvre is still excommunicated to this day. There is no salvation outside the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.
@philc6068
@philc6068 2 дня назад
So was Joan of Arc. So was Athanatius.
@St.Augustine4006
@St.Augustine4006 День назад
​@@AndrewAMDso? The church still says you can fufill sunday obligation at an sspx chapel AND the excommunication was lifted on all the sspx bishops AND we have actual saints that died excommunicated by the catholic church.
@hangingon
@hangingon 4 дня назад
I am seeing alot of ladies at Mass wearing veins. The one ahead of me for Communion got on her knees to accept the Host to her tongue. Makes my heart so happy to see the old ways returning.
@pspears4741
@pspears4741 3 дня назад
I hope the good traditions revive...
@karinelangley4804
@karinelangley4804 3 дня назад
I receive holy communion wearing a veil on my knees but I also close my eyes not to be distracted
@a.t.c.3862
@a.t.c.3862 2 дня назад
😂 Yes, older women have varicose veins.
@brianwayne3735
@brianwayne3735 4 дня назад
Yes Fr Marc, Stay with the Church. That is what Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre did. 🇻🇦 he always maintained that Paul VI was a pope and had authority. But he did what he did because he believed that Paul Vi had no right to suppress the traditional seminary in the way he did. SSPX The Defence by Kennedy Hall explains all the questions. I believe the Archbishop will be vindicated and canonized. Remember St Athanasius everybody. 🙏🏼
@sergesavard636
@sergesavard636 4 дня назад
Father, if the Vatican completely suppresses the TLM (which brought me back to the Church) I will not jump ship but will go under ground..and many others will
@atrifle8364
@atrifle8364 4 дня назад
Love Jesus instead of Latin. If your path to Heaven is a 1000 hippie Masses, then do it. Look at what Christ did for us.
@tomthx5804
@tomthx5804 4 дня назад
Big mistake. Christ is present in the Novus Ordo. Are you too proud to be in the true presence of Jesus Christ? The form of the mass is meaningless. The presence of Christ is what matters. Do not abandon the true church
@jimmydarm
@jimmydarm 4 дня назад
You’d go underground just to celebrate a certain style of liturgy? If the only reason you’re Catholic is because you like a certain style of liturgy, you need to seriously reevaluate your faith.
@racheljames7
@racheljames7 4 дня назад
​@tomthx5804 Christ is also present at Satanic Black Masses, does that make it OK?
@racheljames7
@racheljames7 4 дня назад
​@atrifle8364 Hippue masses are narcissistic rock concerts which make you focus on yourself and your stupid feelings. They will not get you to heaven. The demons flee from the Latin Mass. They laugh and hippie hippie clap trap.
@luisgerardoluevanosmedina433
@luisgerardoluevanosmedina433 4 дня назад
Long Live MARCEL LEFEBVRE !👍💪🙏⛪
@atrifle8364
@atrifle8364 3 дня назад
You know he's passed on, correct?
@jwm6314
@jwm6314 3 дня назад
Atrifle you must not be Catholic. Catholics do not die. We are reborn in Christ and live forever. You should know this.
@ModestyinCatholic
@ModestyinCatholic 2 дня назад
@@jwm6314 I also questioned if that account is Catholic because I'm not sensing any authenticity.
@AndrewAMD
@AndrewAMD 2 дня назад
Lefebvre is still excommunicated to this day.
@tonytony131
@tonytony131 2 дня назад
I pray for Marcel Lefebvre, but not for that division he caused.
@d1burns
@d1burns 4 дня назад
Thank you so much. I yelled at the top of my lungs when I heard … America has an incorruptible!!! And yes, she is a traditional nun. That gives me the sign I need. Stay with the Church during her passion. Stay in a state of grace. Go to confession.
@a.t.c.3862
@a.t.c.3862 4 дня назад
Didn't she use to bathe in formaldehyde as a penance?
@sherylward5417
@sherylward5417 4 дня назад
Thankyou Fr Goring for your podcasts, which often give my husband and myself something to ponder and a good chuckle! But not today 😮! The modernists will do all they can to shut down the Traditional Mass, as we see happening across the world today. Archbishop Lefebvre saw this coming and knew the Treasure Our Lord has left us must not be snuffed out. So to save the Faith for the future, finding himself at the end of his life, he knew it was his duty as a Bishop of the One True Church to leave other Bishops to carry on God’s work of saving souls. The Fraternity of St Peter we’re promised a Bishop, and are still waiting for one! The continuation of the Traditional Priesthood, and Traditional Orders now is being shown to be in jeopardy in the mainstream Church. Archbishop Lefebvre said ‘If this work is of God nothing can stop it’ The fruits are manifold. God bless Father
@marcdecastella3454
@marcdecastella3454 3 дня назад
Excellent response. Unfortunately neo-conservatives like Fr Goring refuse to accept the fact that the crisis in the Church justified the SSPX episcopal consecrations of June 30, 1988. The Latin mass and Traditional priesthood have survived to this day solely to Archbishop Lefebvre's decision to proceed with the consecrations. The fact that Fr Goring is a Norvus Ordo priest who does not understand the imperative of exclusively celebrating the TLM SAYS EVERYTHING... No wonder he does not recognize the obvious fact that the SSPX saved the Church by preserving the Priesthood and the authentic liturgy. Let us hope and pray that God enlightens him and thereby, cures his neo-conservative blindness !
@Mikemanify
@Mikemanify 3 дня назад
My favourite comment. God bless you
@davyrantucci
@davyrantucci 3 дня назад
Amazing to see in the comments how many are Traditional. It really is booming, thanks be to God ❤
@francisdonner8306
@francisdonner8306 4 дня назад
I go to SSPX since the pandemic My parish stopped mass for I don’t know how many months. I am eternally grateful to the SSPX and Archbishop Lefebvre because SSPX did not close up and refuse the sacraments. I called my beloved priest at my old parish and explained that our Lord asked Peter three times “do you love me” and Peter said three times “ Yes Lord I love you” and Jesus responded “Feed my sheep.” My family felt Abandoned. Also, everyone takes holy communion on the tongue and on our knees which is more reverent. Sometimes you have to disobey. Especially when the message changes so much the sheep don’t hear His voice. I have always appreciated your messages Father Goring and know you have been walking a fine line but sometimes you just have disobey man and put God first.
@karlpalmes
@karlpalmes 4 дня назад
I would like to consider myself fond of the traditional rite as well, especially for reverence. But the question of whether Lefebvre was correct in his actions to disobey papal authority is a concern. Blind obedience is owed to God alone. I assume that this was the main idea that drove Lefebvre to consecrate four bishops without papal approval. His action challenged papal authority, which is a divinely instituted right promised by the Lord Jesus to his vicars. The church teaches that one must always obey God above all, and obedience to God can also include respecting this divine authority of the church and submitting to the Church's holy magisterium. Moreover, Catholics are called to obey conscience, but this conscience must align with church teachings (as referenced in CCC 1778, 1785). St. Thomas Aquinas also mentions that discernment and seeking alignment with God's will is important, but so is maintaining unity, which Jesus prayed for in John 17:21. Lefebvre may have acted out of love for God, but his actions disrupted this unity and defied the authority instituted by God. Preserving tradition is important, but it's important to consider the way we go about it. Lefebvre was in the wrong for consecrating four bishops. That isn't disobedience, that is schism. Praying to God for discernment and dialogue is what he should have done. Obedience and unity is what distinguishes us from the Orthodox. In the end, Lefebvre's excommunication has still not been lifted up for this purpose, but the whole purpose of the SSPX is understandable and although not in perfect communion, is still recognized to be valid by the Church!
@upnorthoutdoors989
@upnorthoutdoors989 4 дня назад
After a very long absence, I tried to return to the Church during the "pandemic" but all local parishes here had signs posted requiring masks and "social distancing", which were, and remain, absurdities and mockeries of Christ. I looked into SSPX but unfortunately the closest church is hours away.
@atrifle8364
@atrifle8364 4 дня назад
No, that's not how it works. Jesus invested authority into Peter. Putting God first is honoring that authority, even when it's difficult. COVID was difficult for all of us. I'm sorry you felt abandoned. I'm sorry you think I am a terrible person for receiving the way I was taught, as the early Church did. But I am mostly sorry that you think God wants you to abandon the Church.
@atrifle8364
@atrifle8364 4 дня назад
​@@karlpalmes - The SSPX recognized to be valid in the same way that the Orthodox are. There's functionally no difference between the two, except emergency Sunday obligation, which the OP is not doing. He's making a deliberate decision to stay aware from the Church. Pope Francis has also for now made their confessions valid, which is a great mercy because confession reconciles people to the Church as well as God.
@atrifle8364
@atrifle8364 4 дня назад
@@upnorthoutdoors989 - It's time to forgive the clerics for being humans caught up in a difficult situation. I was not happy when they closed either. However, looking back, most people did not have the information I had. They were working under best that they had. It maybe that God's will was short closure, so we stop taking the Church and her sacraments for granted. For sure, the proper reaction is not "I'm going to leave forever because they shut down for a short time, like most of the planet."
@alyciaoswald9776
@alyciaoswald9776 4 дня назад
As a Catholic who grew up in and still attends predominantly the NO, I can say that it is entirely man centered. It is all about the people from the time it begins till the time it ends. We set people up as an idol before God in the very moment that we are supposed to be adoring God and assisting spiritually with our interior prayers at the Sacrifice of the Mass. It starts with the opening hymn. The music is usually some kind of folk or rock which is designed to produce certain effects like arousing the appetites/emotions and getting your foot tapping. It’s entertainment focused pleasing man. It is profane in its very nature. It does the exact opposite of what liturgical music is ordained to do. Liturgical music quites the appetites and disposes one to prayer lifting the mind and heart to God by its very sound. Though the individual may not understand any of the words, it still penetrates. The priest faces the people. As if we are the important ones even though the sacrifice is to and for God. If he turns around to face God the people complain. “He turns his back to us.” The Mass becomes about getting the people involved physically and vocally. They need to be singing, saying responses, lecturing, Eucharistic ministers…. God forbid that Father has to let a lay minister know that he doesn’t need them. What if Father doesn’t make the precious Blood available for everyone? There is very little to no silence for real prayer like contemplation. It’s distracting. I can’t pray. The homily. That’s a tough one. Father can’t actually teach the faith because that would be too offensive and parishioners complain. If you actually want learn about the difficult readings and parts of the faith, then you have do that on your own. You have the sign of peace which people use as time to talk to each other. “You coming over after Mass?” After Mass ends people talk about the music, homily, complaints, compliments, and just visiting with friends all without even leaving the pew. They may migrate the isles. If I have to choose between the Catholic Mass which is man centered and the Catholic Mass which is entirely sacred and God centered, I will choose the God centered Mass. I will obey eternal Rome not the one of this passing age. It has left us starving and thirsty. We are perishing for lack of nourishment. Thank God for Bishops and clergy who are willing to stand up to Rome and defend their flock from the errors and the abuses of power.
@lynkerk320
@lynkerk320 4 дня назад
The NO mass is not like this where I live. It is very reverent.
@michaellefort6128
@michaellefort6128 3 дня назад
I'm not sure where you attend the NO but, my Parish only has referential music during the Mass. I've seen Guitars and violins on Saturday evening Mass but, my wife and I go at ten on Sunday morning when the choir is singing.
@dllion3196
@dllion3196 3 дня назад
We do not have such a mass in our parish. From what I hear, the problem is not the mass but the people. The ex-catholics say that the catholic church had nothing for them. So they migrate to evangelical churches. That disposition seems to be the same as the people you describe. It is much easier and more comforting to be consumers at church. We should be givers as you obviously are, we are to love, adore, and pray. Remember that the important thing here is that you revere God. Do not let others distract you, as you can revere God and God can minister to you regardless of the surroundings.
@srkenna13
@srkenna13 3 дня назад
Spot on description. I've seen it described as the TLM is vertical worship, while the NO is horizontal...
@janiscarter5879
@janiscarter5879 3 дня назад
The NO Mass that I attend is completely Christ centered! We do use Latin during the Advent and Lenten seasons. If TLM is good for you I'm glad, but not all NO Masses are as you describe.
@jjpc4549
@jjpc4549 4 дня назад
Thank you Father ❤️🙏. We attend an FSSP TLM Parish. I pray you learn and celebrate the TLM - it would be most transformative. Yes, Jesus is present in the Novus Ordo, but in many new order churches, you can’t even see the tabernacle - the new Mass is man centered with the Priest facing the people. In the TLM, you truly are adoring God as led by the priest. What a great blessing for you who are sustained by Grace thru the new Mass. I am not as strong as you. I need the total reverence, awe & wonder of the TLM. I would cry at the new Mass - seeing no one was giving due reverence to Jesus in the Tabernacle set off to the side of the church - that is why I had to return to Tradition. . . The Mass of the ages, the Mass of most all the Saints . I need that - I’m sorry if that offends you, you are most blessed & much stronger in faith than me as you are sustained by the new Mass. God bless❤️🙏❤️
@Jayne-JMJ777
@Jayne-JMJ777 3 дня назад
Beautifully and humbly stated! Viva Cristo Rey! 💥❤️🙏🏻✝️💥
@iwansaputra1890
@iwansaputra1890 3 дня назад
is jesus in TLM more holy than jesus in novus ordo? if jesus humble himself to present in novus ordo why people so hate novus ordo? TLM more important than jesus?
@lisalottes5264
@lisalottes5264 3 дня назад
Just as there are levels in heaven of holiness, The TLM is definitely a more reverent and holy Mass. The fruits are quite evident. TLM is growing and nervous ordo is dying.
@iwansaputra1890
@iwansaputra1890 3 дня назад
@@lisalottes5264 TLM is definitely a more reverent and holy Mass, according who? your feeling? or magisterium of the church? catholic in west are joke
@thelion279
@thelion279 2 дня назад
I too need the TLM. I left my church when it stopped the TLM . I felt empty at At Norvus Mass. . I need structure to keep me in line. 🙏
@catholicarrows
@catholicarrows 4 дня назад
Sister Wilhelmina was a member of the Archconfraternity of the Holy Face. She is yet another sign that the Holy Face Devotion is for our times.
@HolyFaceTime
@HolyFaceTime 4 дня назад
Amen Brother
@zionlion4445
@zionlion4445 4 дня назад
God bless you and thanks for sharing! 🕊️💙🙏
@user-yn3ml5zp1p
@user-yn3ml5zp1p 4 дня назад
And no doubt she would not have supported Fiducia Supplicans.
@Michael44wynz
@Michael44wynz 4 дня назад
​@@user-yn3ml5zp1pFrancis-appointed heretic Fernandez.
@arleenstehn3322
@arleenstehn3322 4 дня назад
Fr. Lawrence Carney who began the Legion of St. Martin, an association devoted to the Holy Face served as Chaplain of Sr. Wilhelmina’s order in Gower, Missouri beginning in 2014. He is now back in Wichita at The Spiritual Life Center & gives retreats to the Sisters there. He continues street ministry in addition to writing and retreats around the US about The Holy Face Devotion.
@armidaescareno3923
@armidaescareno3923 4 дня назад
Most people speak about the great Archbishop Lefevbre out of ignorance without the SSPX there would be no TLM in our time
@muztan3100
@muztan3100 3 дня назад
Amen, God bless Fr Goring talking about Sr Wilhelmina, but like most who simply no nothing but news headlines about the SSPX, he has no idea that she was able to found a traditional convent precisely be cause the good Abp Lefebvre saved the TLM through the 70s and 80s by his perceived disobedience. The reason the FSSP was allowed to form and exist was to give an alternative to the SSPX in regular canonical status (of which the SSPX issue is still an internal matter of the Church, not a schismatic one).
@AndrewAMD
@AndrewAMD 2 дня назад
Lefebvre is still excommunicated to this day. There is no salvation outside the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.
@chrisarmon1002
@chrisarmon1002 2 дня назад
⁠@@AndrewAMDthere have been excommunications that were unjustly given even with saints. Based off evidence and the whole situation we can rational say it was unjust.
@armidaescareno3923
@armidaescareno3923 2 дня назад
@@AndrewAMD like I said ignorance. Do your research on the actual back and forth between the Vatican and the Archbishop. There was no excommunication. We were lied to my brother in Christ. To know the history of the norvis ordo you will end up at the SSPX the true Mass of the Catholic church. True worship of Jesus Christ which goes back over 1500 years.
@armidaescareno3923
@armidaescareno3923 2 дня назад
@@AndrewAMD for what exactly? He did nothing wrong. There was no excommunication research the back and forth between the Vatican and the Archbishop. We have been lied to about so many things and once you learn the history of the no you will run to the SSPX. The true Catholic mass and true worship of God, since over 1500 years it is amazing. Don't be afraid of what they will call you if you do. I hope you will find yourself there.
@jorgemartinez123
@jorgemartinez123 День назад
GREAT video, father. Thank you. And Viva Cristo Rey!
@GonzoTheRosarian
@GonzoTheRosarian 4 дня назад
I grew up with the Latin Mass. Loved it, miss it. People talk about the Novus Ordo being more understandable but when the Mass was in Latin, I could attend it ANYWHERE in the world and not feel lost, the language was the same everywhere you went.
@teresaegger5097
@teresaegger5097 4 дня назад
AMEN. The Mass is for PRAYING to God, as Mary prayed at the foot of the cross. There is no need for so many busybodies running here and there during Mass. And no need for homilies to make parishioners laugh. It is distracting. Calvary is no laughing matter - PRAY.
@atrifle8364
@atrifle8364 4 дня назад
@@teresaegger5097 - And how are you praying in Latin? Do you understand it? I don't and I'm studying it. The ordered use of language is communication. If it's just pretty syllables, then I think a discussion can be had about much prayer is happening.
@atrifle8364
@atrifle8364 4 дня назад
So you understand Latin, then? I feel lost when the Latin shows up. Does that matter? Does a need to travel and have the same unintelligible experience trump the need for people to understand the Mass?
@bradyhayes7911
@bradyhayes7911 4 дня назад
@@atrifle8364 I do, because I have a Missal that translates Latin to English. More importantly, the prayers of the Mass aren't for us - they're for God. The homily is for us, and it's always been in the vernacular.
@davyrantucci
@davyrantucci 4 дня назад
@@bradyhayes7911my 5 year old knows how to pray an entire Rosary in Latin and in English. We do both. But it comes naturally when you hear it often too. The nice thing is that Latin is making a comeback, as well. My kids are learning it in school and most Universities now require Latin if you study English as the root words are important and easy to understand.
@timcrowley38
@timcrowley38 4 дня назад
Thank you Fr Mark and thanks to Sr Wilhelmina. Let us all stay sober minded in troubling times.
@natashatsouris4580
@natashatsouris4580 4 дня назад
If it wasn't for Archbishop Lefebvre and the four bishops he ordained we would not have the TLM today. He did not jump ship, he kept it afloat. ARCHBISHOP LEFEBVRE PRAY FOR US.
@annburke6705
@annburke6705 4 дня назад
He did jump ship, learn the faith
@atrifle8364
@atrifle8364 4 дня назад
Is the point to "save the TLM" or learn to love God?
@kathrynmyer
@kathrynmyer 4 дня назад
Loving God is the TLM. It is the Mass of the ages the one that all the Saints prior to 1963 prayed. It is the original and profound rite. If you do a little digging you will find a lot of dirt on the origins of the new Mass, it was not so holy.
@olisaachike5469
@olisaachike5469 4 дня назад
​@@atrifle8364you create a false dichotomy between love of God and the TLM. The TLM and the traditional sacraments are very crucial because they are inspired by God the Holy Ghost and are therefore heavily imbued with the love of God. And where the love of God is, true piety flows.
@atrifle8364
@atrifle8364 4 дня назад
@@kathrynmyer - God is not the TLM, which is really the Missal of 1962. That confusion is why I hope that we keep keep nudging people to the current missal. And no, there is no "dirt" on the current missal. There is irresponsible social media rumors about it. The real history on it is academic, not a soap opera. It's an old Mass promulgated by Catholic bishops/Peter.
@zionlion4445
@zionlion4445 4 дня назад
❤️‍🔥"Hatred stirs up strife, but love covers all offenses." (Proverbs <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="612">10:12</a>) ❤️‍🔥"When we die to something, something comes alive within us. If we die to self, charity comes alive; if we die to pride, service comes alive; if we die to lust, reverence for personality comes alive; if we die to anger, love comes alive." (Venerable Fulton J. Sheen ✝️) ❤️‍🔥"Not the music- Not the dance- Not the party- Not the prance- But the PRECIOUS BLOOD OF JESUS Received in His Sacrament Flows in our veins and really Makes us brothers true, content." (Sr. Wilhemina - from her book 'GOD'S WILL') ❤️‍🔥Sister Wilhemina & Mary, Queen of Apostles, please pray for us! 💙🙏 ❤️‍🔥Viva Cristo Rey!❤️‍🔥
@HolyFaceTime
@HolyFaceTime 4 дня назад
Amen, Amen, Amen!
@maryannerazzano7692
@maryannerazzano7692 4 дня назад
I love this. Thank you for sharing and may God bless you ❤️ 🙏
@Abby-GodLovesYou
@Abby-GodLovesYou 2 дня назад
Amen ❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏
@zionlion4445
@zionlion4445 2 дня назад
​@@HolyFaceTime Thank you and God bless you! 🕊️💙🌹🙏
@zionlion4445
@zionlion4445 2 дня назад
​@@maryannerazzano7692 Glad to hear this :). You're welcome and God bless you!🕊️💙🌹🙏
@ThomasWeldon-jx6vx
@ThomasWeldon-jx6vx 4 дня назад
Thank you, father, for your support of Sr. Wilhelmina. Please pray for those nuns, sisters, and brothers who suffer silently within their congregations for desiring to serve the Lord in a more traditional way. I am one of them.
@atrifle8364
@atrifle8364 4 дня назад
This suffering is not all that much compared to the martyrs. But even if it is suffering, is that maybe not something that be offered to God? I have a very traditional Mass said in the current Missal. Utopia did not spontaneously break out.
@a.t.c.3862
@a.t.c.3862 4 дня назад
We pray for their conversion 🙏
@a.t.c.3862
@a.t.c.3862 2 дня назад
May our Lady of Traditiones Custodes lead you to repentance.
@ThomasWeldon-jx6vx
@ThomasWeldon-jx6vx День назад
I think Our Lady of Fatima might want to have a word with you.
@ThomasWeldon-jx6vx
@ThomasWeldon-jx6vx День назад
It can be offered to God, but it doesn't mean that there should not be conversion of the leaders. How does rhe suffering of preborn children who are aborted at a Planned Parenthood just a few blocks away from a religious congregation's house seem to you, when the leadership does nothing to save them, even if it can? Some 40,000 to 60,000 dead, and not ever an effort to save them. Of course, that is typical for the Church today. We are a church that sings a litrle louder. No, I don't have time to explain that phrase. Sorry. Look it up. True story. God bless.
@rosealenius-spencer4823
@rosealenius-spencer4823 4 дня назад
We go where we are led. I love the prayers in the TLM. Our Catholic church here in Johnson City offers the TLM every Sunday and most Monday evenings. I also go to the NO during the weekdays. While vacationing in MI recently, we went to Mass at a beautiful Catholic Church in Ann Arbor. I have never been to such a beautiful Mass! It was a beautiful blend of NO and TLM. The congregation recited the prayers in Latin, Communion was kneeling at the Communion rail, the priest faced the Tabernacle, the Alter, the Crucifix as in the TLM. Yet, it followed the “new” liturgy. The reverence and spirit in that Mass just blew me away. Afterwards, the entire congregation fell in line for the most beautiful procession of the Blessed Sacrament I have ever witnessed. Truly, this priest is leading his flock to Heaven. We have to be careful not to judge how people worship. We are all led in unique ways. We are all under the same umbrella….Remember we go to Mass for Jesus. All for Jesus. Focus on Jesus.
@atrifle8364
@atrifle8364 4 дня назад
I agree on the focus on Jesus, which is why I am very frustrated by this endless emphasis on outward forms. Of course the current missal can be said beautifully and even in the older style. However, if it's all standing, and with current hymns, etc, Jesus is there too.
@teresaegger5097
@teresaegger5097 4 дня назад
The NO you went to, is what the Mass should have been after Vatican II, however abuses were allowed to take over and it is still happening everywhere. That is one reason why so many are attending the TLM. Enough is enough. They can TRY to crush the Latin Mass goers, and at the same time do THEY let the modernist church do what they please. There are far too many modernists in the hierarchy and laity. We were warned.
@janiscarter5879
@janiscarter5879 3 дня назад
What church was this in Ann Arbor. I would love to visit.
@rosealenius-spencer4823
@rosealenius-spencer4823 3 дня назад
@@janiscarter5879 it was called Saint Patrick’s.
@janiscarter5879
@janiscarter5879 2 дня назад
@rosealenius-spencer4823 Thank you very much. I live within a few hours drive and I will visit here.
@fatimafollower
@fatimafollower 3 дня назад
Praise Archbishop Lefebvre!
@paulom1315
@paulom1315 4 дня назад
T.L.M. ALL THE WAY.. ORIGINAL
@mariepaukowits1709
@mariepaukowits1709 2 дня назад
All the way!
@DogtownTradingCo
@DogtownTradingCo 4 дня назад
❤️ABBA FATHER PRAYER "Abba, Father, I love You, You are my favorite! Lord Jesus, I Iove You, You are my favorite! Holy Spirit, I love You, You are my favorite! Most sweet and Holy Trinity, I adore You, You are my All!" ✝️ By Father Mark Goring, CC ✝️ ❤ Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with Thee. Blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, mother of God, pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death. Amen ✝️ Viva Cristo Rey ✝️
@R.I.S.E.
@R.I.S.E. 3 дня назад
Archbishop Lefebvre is the single rope that pulled tradition through a rugged, jagged cliff onto the grounds of the current times. If it were not for him, tradition would have rolled down into extinction. Before judgement is passed onto the Archbishop, GRATITUDE must be given to the man whom we all owe what we still have and celebrate up to this very day. No one can be thankful to the Archbishop until he fully appreciates what a gift Tradition truly is.
@dentryn4365
@dentryn4365 2 дня назад
Absolutely.
@armidaescareno3923
@armidaescareno3923 2 дня назад
Amen ❤
@Holymotherchruch
@Holymotherchruch 2 дня назад
You are 100 % correct! If it weren’t for Archbishop Lefebvre we wouldn’t have the TLM at all.
@SuperRuthJ
@SuperRuthJ 4 дня назад
Well said Father Mark Goring! God bless you!❤
@drkhaledhashem5624
@drkhaledhashem5624 4 дня назад
Father Mark, I visited sister Wilhelmina last week. This is the second time I visit her. She is amazing and the nuns are wonderful and very helpful. I recommend it highly. Very peaceful place.
@joecardone4887
@joecardone4887 4 дня назад
Amen Father! All of the saints talk about the importance of obedience ! Sister Wilhelmina’s frustration but moving forward with obedience and remaining in communion with the pope is the only way to go! We need to surrender and trust in God!
@teresaegger5097
@teresaegger5097 4 дня назад
But also be aware of wolves in sheep's clothing, because there are many. If there weren't, there wouldn't be such confusion.
@JEspin2024
@JEspin2024 4 дня назад
She was a mere nun while the Archbishop was much higher in the hierarchy of the church having been superior general of a religious order and Apostolic Nuncio of a large part of Africa. Sister was not in a position to make those kinds of decisions. It is a very different situation one from the other.
@flabiger
@flabiger 3 дня назад
An Archbishop has just as little of a "right" to disobey the Pope as a Sister.
@CrankyGrandma
@CrankyGrandma 4 дня назад
Thank you! As a kid in the 60s and 70s, I asked my mom about some of the wacky stuff, and some comments in sermons that seemed off. She was very calm (though she distrusted some theologians and trends “in the spirit of Vatican II). She said “the Church is a Church of sinners, never expect otherwise, but Jesus is True and he will sort it out”. She often quoted Catholic poet Francis Maguire who wrote: “Yet erring, erring, proud and loveable, This upstart, baseborn consort of the King, Who, should she so desire, could not annul the timeless terms of His strange marrying. Her He selected, and her head is high; In His name speaking, she speaks chaste and true, Although at times her robe may set awry, Though they be muddied by her retinue. Imperfect mother, still a slow beginner in knowing children and in loving men, embarrassed by her saints, like us, a sinner; she falls, and weeps, to fall and rise again, Until, we pray, that final day will find her, safe with her spouse and us tagging behind her”
@marcuslow1386
@marcuslow1386 2 дня назад
Thank you Fr Mark for speaking out clarity and I hope the confused will open their minds and thoughts and reassess their positions!
@donnaoneill7537
@donnaoneill7537 3 дня назад
Reverence begins in the heart .. a heart that loves God .. the most important thing for me is to keep my heart and eyes focused on Jesus . To Love Him and my neighbour ..
@DB-me8jc
@DB-me8jc 4 дня назад
Wonderful words! Thank you Fr. Mark. I love our church. God is always faithful and will see his church through troubling times. But to jump ship, no never! Great encouragement for all Catholics. Viva Christo Rey!
@joycemackin9412
@joycemackin9412 4 дня назад
God bless Archbishop Lebreve and the SSPX ✝️🕯️✝️
@billybobwombat2231
@billybobwombat2231 3 дня назад
Nuns gave me the gift of freedom from religion many years ago, a gift they gave me without ever realising they gave me, I still thank them to this day.
@user-qf1rx1gj5c
@user-qf1rx1gj5c 4 дня назад
God bless the Archbishop and the society.
@tomthx5804
@tomthx5804 4 дня назад
Sorry, no can do. Lefebvre was excommunicated for trying to pretend he was the pope and naming his own bishops. That is as rotten as you can get. He died outside the church because of his insanity. Wise up.
@321voices-kimberlysunderma7
@321voices-kimberlysunderma7 4 дня назад
Praise the Lord! Sr. Wilhelmina, Pray For Us! Thanks You Dear Fr. Mark for what you said is so True! Prayers for our Beloved Church! 😊🙏❤💒💙🕊️✝️
@zionlion4445
@zionlion4445 4 дня назад
God bless you dear Kim!🌹 Praying for you and for your lovely family :)💙💒🙏 💙 Viva Cristo Rey! 💙
@321voices-kimberlysunderma7
@321voices-kimberlysunderma7 4 дня назад
@@zionlion4445 Praying for you and your family too Dear Lara! God’s Blessings. Kim 😊🙏❤️🙏💙🕊️✝️
@DogtownTradingCo
@DogtownTradingCo 4 дня назад
Amen ❤
@yvobalcer
@yvobalcer 4 дня назад
I am old enough to remember all Masses being Latin. I go to the Novus Ordo Mass but I feel the attack on the Latin Mass is an attack on all of the previous Masses I attended as a child and young adult.
@atrifle8364
@atrifle8364 4 дня назад
It's not at all. It's just a discussion inside the Church.
@Mikemanify
@Mikemanify 3 дня назад
@@atrifle8364 It's persecution. A pig with make up on remains a pig. Dress it as you like. Bergoglio declared war on Trads.
@theresamcginn9378
@theresamcginn9378 4 дня назад
Thank you for such an important statement for today! We are in the midst of a storm, but Jesus is in our boat with us. Praised be Jesus Christ!
@alyciaoswald9776
@alyciaoswald9776 4 дня назад
Archbishop Lefbvre was right to do what he did. He had the virtue of obedience and tried to obey Rome in everything that could. Rome promised him bishops multiple times. He was dying of cancer and he knew that if didn’t consecrate them then the SSPX would never get them. Rome was abusing its authority/power in trying to force him to say the NO alongside offering the TLM and dangling the promise of bishops in front them. I grew up in the NO and am still predominantly in the NO. It is dangerous and violates many Catholic principles and teachings in the way that the Mass is offered. No it is not offered in line with the dictates of Vatican II or the those of the rite itself. “Some” vernacular became all vernacular and the command that Latin was to be retained fell be the wayside. There were at least six indications that the NO was written to said facing God, but the priests face the people. Vatican II said Gregorian Chant was to take pride of place in the liturgy, but we traded the sacred liturgical music for profane music from the world. That is just few examples. I stand with the SSPX.
@lilyst.pierre6457
@lilyst.pierre6457 4 дня назад
I think the FSSP is still waiting for their promise to be fulfilled from Rome to make bishops.....how many years now? Lefebvre was well aware of the crisis in the Church.
@thuyanh6734
@thuyanh6734 3 дня назад
​​@@lilyst.pierre6457 I believe Rome's intention is to get rid of the TLM all together so there will be nothing standing in their way in implementing progressive modernist agendas... The TLM would have to go underground soon...😢
@ShelaghDonnellyMinist7567
@ShelaghDonnellyMinist7567 4 дня назад
God Bless🙏🏻 you Fr. Mark Have a Lovely Blessed🙏🏻🕊️ Sunday everyone I regularly go to Latin Mass on Sunday here in Ireland🇮🇪 It is a Very Blessed and HOLY Mass and Reverent Mass🙏🏻🕊️ Sister Wilhelmina Pray🙏🏻 for us ❤️VIVA CRISTO REY❤️.
@Limerick789
@Limerick789 4 дня назад
God bless you Shelagh 🙏
@zionlion4445
@zionlion4445 4 дня назад
Have a lovely and holy Sunday too, sweetest Shelagh🕊️☘️🌹🙏. Wishing and praying that you are feeling better. Praying for for you. Love, Forever, Lara. 🕊️💙🙏💚🕊️ 🕊️🌹Viva Cristo Rey!🌹🕊️
@ShelaghDonnellyMinist7567
@ShelaghDonnellyMinist7567 4 дня назад
@@Limerick789 God Bless you and All of your Family🙏🏻👨‍👩‍👦🕊️ Love❤️ and Peace🕊️ and Prayers and Many Many Blessings💒 Have a Lovely Blessed Sunday💒🙏🏻👨‍👩‍👦❤️🕊️ This is The Corpus Christi🙏🏻❤️ Procession ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3mlnXjelleg.htmlsi=HZ8W7d62W3vAng-7 🙏🏻👨‍👩‍👦🕊️ ❤️VIVA CRISTO REY❤️
@ShelaghDonnellyMinist7567
@ShelaghDonnellyMinist7567 4 дня назад
@@Limerick789 God Bless you and your family🙏🏻👨‍👩‍👦🕊️ Have a Lovely Blessed Sunday💒🙏🏻👨‍👩‍👦❤️🕊️ Love❤️ and Peace🕊️ and Prayers and Many Many Blessings💒 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3mlnXjelleg.htmlsi=h1v8eV30cTydzYcm ❤️Viva Cristo Rey❤️
@ShelaghDonnellyMinist7567
@ShelaghDonnellyMinist7567 4 дня назад
@@Limerick789 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3mlnXjelleg.htmlsi=dMlb6iQ167W0m0hL God Bless you and Family🙏🏻👨‍👩‍👦🕊️ Have a Lovely Blessed Sunday💒🙏🏻❤️👨‍👩‍👦🕊️ Love❤️ and Peace🕊️ and Prayers and Many Many Blessings💒 Shelagh ❤️Viva Cristo Rey❤️
@p.i.638
@p.i.638 4 дня назад
There's nothing else but the Holy Roman Catholic Apostolic Church! All the others refuse to a portion of Thruth. I go to a TLM Parish of the FSSP and it's Heaven on hearth!!! Thanks Lord for the magnificent gift of the traditional liturgy 🔥🙏🔥
@atrifle8364
@atrifle8364 4 дня назад
It's not Heaven on earth. Nothing on earth compares to Heaven. If the only way Jesus can be loved is in a foriegn language mass surrounded by the right people doing the right things, then that's not ideal.
@p.i.638
@p.i.638 3 дня назад
@@atrifle8364 thanks for your message! Are you writing because you are truly open to learn about the amazing gift of the holy traditional liturgy or just because you want to fight against a Catholic? If the second answer is true, I will never be able to change your convictions, but I will pray to the One that can. Otherwise I'm willing to tell you what miss those that don't attend to the Holy Mass the way it was celebrated for more than thousand years in Cristianity
@fragwagon
@fragwagon 3 дня назад
I remember well wwhen you pulled back from the brink of "weird anger", as you so aptly call it, with the help of the grace given your community and superiors. In holy obedience. And you yourself helped many souls, including my own, in that moment. Thank you and may God bless you, and may the good sister Wilhelmina pray for us.
@JulieTorres-qe2ls
@JulieTorres-qe2ls 4 дня назад
You don't jump ship....excellently said Father....we are the Faithful....Semper Fidelis isn't just for Marines
@zionlion4445
@zionlion4445 4 дня назад
AMEN! 🌊❤️‍🔥🕊️⛵🕊️❤️‍🔥🌊
@racheljames7
@racheljames7 4 дня назад
Bergoglio protected that child molesters McCarrick and God knows who else. I'm not giving up the Latin Mass because that abusive pervert says I should.
@sherylsaturnino8083
@sherylsaturnino8083 4 дня назад
Always charitable, prudent and showing common sense. Thank you, Fr. Mark! ❤
@declanfinan8842
@declanfinan8842 4 дня назад
Good message Father, I attend aTLM Mass daily and can say that what you say has been touching many cords with me over recent months. I believe The Spirit is strongly in what you have said and it resinates with me deeply! Ian beginning to see The Light penetrate the darkness which has been dogging us for what seems like a very long time now. All praise be to Our Triune God and to Blessed Mary and all our Saints! Thank you Father, and May Almighty God continue to keep you solidly on the steady path he has chosen for you
@louiseb.7946
@louiseb.7946 3 дня назад
Well said. Thanks for the encouragement. God bless.
@rgkmadison
@rgkmadison 4 дня назад
Eyewitness report: I’m 75, and have lived and worshipped in the Roman Catholic Church before, during, and after Vatican 2. The church was absolutely thriving BEFORE Vatican 2. We were told ad nauseum that we had to modernize and change everything so we could get all the protestants back into the church. We hated the changes, but like good catholics we trusted our shepherds. This was all before the internet. I never heard of Lefebrve until sometime in the 80’s. Again, believed the false narrative about him supplied by the trusted shepherds. The implementation of Vatican 2 changes by any metric have been an absolute disaster. What the last 5 years have unequivocally brought out is that this long term destruction has been purposeful, not accidental, implemented by false shepherds. Fathful catholics didn’t leave the church. The false shepherds have done everything they can to lead the flock away from the true church. “There is nothing hidden that will not be revealed.” Its all out in the open now easy to see. But people don’t want to see it because they are afraid or they are under a diabolical disorientation. Say your rosary EVERY day so the Blessed Mother can give you discernment to see reality, her Son!
@gazda3787
@gazda3787 3 дня назад
Thank you for your comment - so truthful
@dentryn4365
@dentryn4365 2 дня назад
@rgmadison Couldn't agree more. Pax
@craigberry4051
@craigberry4051 4 дня назад
Thank you Father. I needed to hear this.
@annforrer8445
@annforrer8445 4 дня назад
Ahhhh...a breath of celestial air....thank you Fr Mark for this insight into Sr Wilheminia and sound teaching!❤
@zionlion4445
@zionlion4445 4 дня назад
AMEN! 💙❤️‍🔥🌹❤️‍🔥💙
@michaelhudecek2778
@michaelhudecek2778 4 дня назад
Thank you Father!! 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
@kimfleury
@kimfleury 4 дня назад
3 Hail Marys for your intentions, Father Goring 🌹🌹🌹🙏🏻 ¡Viva Cristo Rey! ✝️
@zionlion4445
@zionlion4445 4 дня назад
🌊⛵"In her voyage across the ocean of this world, the Church is like a great ship being pounded by the waves of life’s different stresses. Our duty is not to abandon ship but to keep her on her course." (St. Boniface) 🌊🕊️"Lord, build us on the rock of faith, The rock of Faith in Thee! No matter what the pain, the Cross Of tribulation be: Help us believe, although this world Sees us as fools quite lost, Help us stay with Thee in the boat Completely tempest-tossed." (Sr. Wilhemina) 🌊🕊️Sr. Wilhemina, St. Benedict, please pray for us!🙏 🌊🕊️🧭Viva Cristo Rey!🧭🕊️🌊
@HolyFaceTime
@HolyFaceTime 4 дня назад
Great quote c, Love it and it fits with John Bosco's vision of steering the ship between 2 pillars .
@zionlion4445
@zionlion4445 4 дня назад
​@@HolyFaceTime Yes, I can see that, now that you mentioned it ...:) Thanks for your kindness and God bless you! 💙⛵🙏
@teresasnamesake4784
@teresasnamesake4784 4 дня назад
The problem we face is that some of our leaders are appearing to try to steer her off course. We the faithful can't really steer her, but trust the Lord will not allow her to be taken off course. We by our prayers and faithfulness to the Truth and by our living lives full of the grace of the sacraments, will gain Grace for our leaders and fellow members of the body of Christ. All for the Sacred and Eucharistic Heart of Jesus and His holy Mother in union with St Joseph
@zionlion4445
@zionlion4445 4 дня назад
​@@teresasnamesake4784 ❤️‍🔥Most Sacred Heart of Jesus Christ, make our hearts like unto Thyne!🙏 ❤️‍🔥Viva Cristo Rey!❤️‍🔥
@user-pg5xt4bq4w
@user-pg5xt4bq4w 4 дня назад
I think of it like in the garden we the faithful are the disciples are we asleep or are we on watch praying, or do we scatter in the fear and in scandal, keep watch dear faithful cause Good Friday hasn’t happened yet to Holy Mother Church let’s hope and pray many stand with Our Lady at the foot of the cross
@justanaveragejoe9416
@justanaveragejoe9416 4 дня назад
Go on Fr Mark. So much said in such a short period of time.
@catholiclife9304
@catholiclife9304 4 дня назад
Sister Willameana, pray for us. I agree Father Mark. Viva Cristo Rey! 🙏
@franinator9849
@franinator9849 4 дня назад
Thank you Fr Mark.
@letiziarossini8356
@letiziarossini8356 4 дня назад
A real chrstian always stays with the church also in dark moments, a real chrstian is always humble and prays for the Pope,the church.Thank yuo fr Mark.
@leannebernard2185
@leannebernard2185 4 дня назад
Thank you Father Mark. Viva Cristo Rey!!!
@shafur3
@shafur3 3 дня назад
Dear Sister please pray for us. Amen. Thank you Father for sharing.
@VenusDFernandes
@VenusDFernandes День назад
Well said father Mark and just at the right time
@michaelamclarnon9270
@michaelamclarnon9270 4 дня назад
SISTER WILHAMENA PRAY FOR AMERICAN AND ALL OF THE WORLD 🙏❤️‍🔥🙏❤️‍🔥🕊️🕊️🕊️🌹
@marilynBgood
@marilynBgood 4 дня назад
Well said Fr. Goring! Thank you for this!! I too sympathize with Archbishop Lefebvre but stand with Sr. Wilhelmina!
@muztan3100
@muztan3100 3 дня назад
Why not stand with both?
@Snoopy-mo4hw
@Snoopy-mo4hw 4 дня назад
Last fall I made a special trip to visit Sr. Wilhamena in Missouri as she will probably be the only incorruptible I may ever see and hopefully a saint at that! Thank you for bringing her name up in your videos!
@marygunning5121
@marygunning5121 4 дня назад
The question arises would we have the TLM without Archbishop Lefebvre and his followers. Bishop Richard Williamson who was unfortunately removed from the SSPX, I always listen to his sermons and like many admire, appreciate, and respect his humility and knowledge.
@flabiger
@flabiger 4 дня назад
Is the TLM necessary for salvation?
@companyof8
@companyof8 4 дня назад
I am so very thankful for the SSPX and Marcel Lefebvre. It is the only option for us and we have to travel over an hour to attend it but so worth it.
@atrifle8364
@atrifle8364 4 дня назад
@@flabiger - No, but you'd think so from the way people talk about it.
@atrifle8364
@atrifle8364 4 дня назад
@@companyof8 - That's a choice you're making to essentially attend an Orthodox style church. I am sure you drive past many accept Catholic parishes in an hour, but they are not acceptable because people like myself are in the pews.
@companyof8
@companyof8 4 дня назад
@@atrifle8364 actually I don’t. I live in rural America. I pass a Baptist church off the highway and a Mormon temple. The SSPX is the closest Catholic church period for me.
@kurtiscring1550
@kurtiscring1550 4 дня назад
Not jumping ship but I’m gonna make more effort to let my bishop hear from me
@Totustuus822
@Totustuus822 4 дня назад
I agree. I love the TLM although I go to a NO mass. I am grateful for Vatican II though. I came into the church as a convert and it was an amazing N.O. Church. The Eucharist was received very reverently in that church. I have nothing but good things to say about the N. O. Churches and priests who have ministered to me. But I will say that the parishes I’ve been to are predominantly immigrant, so there’s just not the same Protestant influence in those churches as other American churches. There is the belief of the real presence of Jesus in the Eucharist. I think what Vatican II brought was more laity involvement and some wonderful ministries that were needed and a call to every Catholic to evangelize. Now it’s time to come back to the reverence of the TLM. We can have the best of both worlds. God always works things to the good for those who love Him.
@atrifle8364
@atrifle8364 4 дня назад
Missal of 1962 communities attract an extraordinary amount of Protestant converts, as in your example. If I had to pick from attendance which missal was the Protestant influenced, it would the Missal of 1962. The current missal can be said reverently and in way almost indistinguishable from the current common experience in the Missal of 1962 communities. It also can not be, which is fine. I personally believe part of this issue is Protestants looking for the ultimate "Catholic" experience, rather than something that is rather like being home. Home is messy and full of daily struggles, etc. Vatican II had endless wisdom. Of which was understanding we need the Mass, the Mass does not need us.
@Totustuus822
@Totustuus822 4 дня назад
@@atrifle8364 I can understand where you’re coming from as that is probably closer to the early church and some of the attitudes of the TLM people I follow can verge on profound arrogance. My family is from the Philippines. They don’t have the same type of Protestant cultural influence as there is in the US. I always go to heavily immigrant churches because there is a deep reverence for Jesus in the Eucharist. The N.O. Masses in immigrant communities are extremely reverent because they like people from the early church had a Eucharistic understanding of the mass. That said, the mass changes from Vatican II in heavily influenced Protestant countries that may have been already struggling with an understanding of the real presence has created far too casual an environment. There was so much wisdom in Vatican II which should not be thrown out, but going back to a some of the changes which make the mass more externally Eucharistically centered is positive for those who are not and especially those cultures that are not internally aligned with the real presence. The changes to go back to a more TLM influenced mass is because we live in a culture of death where people no longer even believe that their own bodies have a spiritual reality. They need to experience transcendence. The TML is like training wheels for people struggling with the real presence.
@atrifle8364
@atrifle8364 4 дня назад
@@Totustuus822 - "That said, the mass changes from Vatican II in heavily influenced Protestant countries that may have been already struggling with an understanding of the real presence has created far too casual an environment." It appears from my POV the lack of belief created a casual environment. It does not necessarily work the other way around. My father grew up in the Mass people seem to imagine will fix things. He can say the Pater Noster, but he does it with contempt. He resents dressing up in all it's forms. Formality just looks like formality to some people. Depending on where people are, it can be barrier. A cargo cult is a group of people who believe they can recreate an experience/blessing by replicating outward forms. It comes from WWII. In the pacific, the military would airdrop supplies onto islands, to support the military there. After the war, the military withdrew and the airdrops stopped. In order to get them to come again, the natives built replicas in local materials of WWII military equipment like radios and helmets. They even used them like they had seen in hopes that the airdrops would start again. We don't have surveys of genuine belief before Vatican II. (We are much more survey happy now.) The descriptions from scholarly resources suggest a great many people going the motions pre Vatican II, with little real belief. My own personal experience with my older family matches those sources. I'm not sure the world before Vatican II really existed like the way people imagined it does today. For sure, the almost perfected Mass experiences of the small communities will never be the norm, even if everyone went to using the Missal of 1962 again. And even if they did, belief is thing of the heart. The outward forms can be empty. It takes them both together.
@Totustuus822
@Totustuus822 4 дня назад
@@atrifle8364 I don’t think the airdrop scenario is a good example and it honestly rubs me the wrong way. The externals are not a replacement for internal belief, but I’m actually not talking about the externals, but the safeguards. It is much harder to desecrate the Eucharist for those who do not believe in the real presence under the safeguards of some elements of the TML. We live in a time where more safeguards are appropriate.
@atrifle8364
@atrifle8364 4 дня назад
@@Totustuus822 - "I don’t think the airdrop scenario is a good example and it honestly rubs me the wrong way. " It should rub you the wrong way. However, I cannot really process the arguments for an event that is unlikely in any case without seeing the parallels. "If do these "X" older things, this "Z "way like we used to, we will get "A" beliefs out of it again." Hmm... I'm not sure those beliefs even existed in the first place. "The externals are not a replacement for internal belief, but I’m actually not talking about the externals, but the safeguards. " How much safeguarding did Jesus want? He comes to us in the accident of bread and wine. Not gold, not jewels, not a fortress but a humble meal. It is not hard to desecrate the Eucharist in any parish. Someone could take the Eucharist and spit right back out the priest in the altar rail scenario. Communion on the hand seems to have relieved the need for platens. I suspect people feeding themselves normally don't drop hosts as much. In any event, the choice of the Church is less safeguards if they existed and more welcome. It needs to be good enough. Trusting the Church is trusting Jesus.
@reneestevens6683
@reneestevens6683 4 дня назад
God works in mysterious ways, Blessings on this nun
@HurricaneIrene07
@HurricaneIrene07 4 дня назад
Even the USA still has great Saints, good Catholics and plenty of beauty and good will.
@dianelink-urtz4698
@dianelink-urtz4698 4 дня назад
Thank you father mark!!
@christinehoney2374
@christinehoney2374 4 дня назад
Thanks to Abp Lefebvre who has the courage to preserve the authetic teaching of the Catholic tradition. Look at the fruits of SSPX. The Immaculata Church in St Mary's, Kansas. And the increasing vocation, utmost reverence to God, to fight against the heresy and modernist teaching which endanger the faith of the people.
@tomthx5804
@tomthx5804 4 дня назад
The fruits of the evil SSPX are many. Division, confusion, always fighting, both with the church and with each other. SSPX members invariably fight with each other, break from teh SSPX and form ever smaller churches. They are really terribly rotten once you really examine them. I am so sorry you fell for their anti Catholic bigotry. You are lost at this point, get back into the real church.
@atrifle8364
@atrifle8364 4 дня назад
The modernism is in trusting an experience, rather than Church of Christ. The fruits of the SSPX are not good.
@racheljames7
@racheljames7 4 дня назад
Absolutely. God bless Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre.
@kathrynmyer
@kathrynmyer 4 дня назад
@@atrifle8364 explain what fruits you see that aren’t good please.
@stephenpaulwilson
@stephenpaulwilson 4 дня назад
@@kathrynmyerdisobedience 📿🕊️🙏❤️💐
@Occupied_South
@Occupied_South 2 дня назад
Father Mark I discovered the traditional Mass about 5 years ago and it changed my life.. and getting angry has never been part of being traditional. Finally father I highly recommend you read the famous bio about Lefevre. He was correct
@gabrielezechukwu7477
@gabrielezechukwu7477 3 дня назад
Sister Wilhelmina's case is a good example of the inner struggles of most present-day Catholics. The extent of her discomfort with what she perceived as wrong with her old community is such that she had to leave and start a new community. I do not think that she sees her old community as condemnable but she has to leave because she failed to connect with God through the new cultures and practices. None can tell what would've happened if her effort to start a community that aligned with her convictions were denied. I believe that this is same with TLM goers; TLM works work them so, let them have it! We have different religious orders in the church with some being radically different from others in terms of spirituality and observances. We also have different rites that are in communion with Rome. What is it about TLM that is so objectionable that it cannot be accommodated? I've been to TLM for about 5 times and that was in 2022. I must say that I prefer the Novus Ordo if it is celebrated with the decorum that befits the liturgy. However, I understand that there are those who prefer the TLM and I believe that the church is big enough to accommodate all of us.
@julieCA58
@julieCA58 4 дня назад
"They just allow their anger to blind them and make them stupid". I love your love of Christ most of all, but I also love blunt honesty. Thank you♥️
@user-ne3lp8nh1o
@user-ne3lp8nh1o 4 дня назад
Such charitable language toward you're fellow Catholics.
@julieCA58
@julieCA58 4 дня назад
@@user-ne3lp8nh1o truth is charity. And anger definitely can make one stupid. The world is full of examples.
@zionlion4445
@zionlion4445 4 дня назад
AMEN Julie! 🕊️🌹🙏 Love is blind.❤️‍🔥 Hatred is blind. If you're going to be foolish enough to choose to be blind, at least choose to be a "blind fool in love!" ❤️‍🔥Viva Cristo Rey!❤️‍🔥
@Michael44wynz
@Michael44wynz 4 дня назад
Yep. Heretic German bishops angrily voted to schismatically perform same-sexmarriage blessings and yet none were told to come to the Vatican over this, and yet others were told to. Hmmm. 🤔
@ModestyinCatholic
@ModestyinCatholic 4 дня назад
As a heads up, that true definition is ignoring the five alarm fire at the Vatican right now. Some of you liberal minded guys who take a light take on the offenses and corruption right now have your heads fixated against Latin Mass Catholics for some reason I will never understand.
@janicemcfarlane5397
@janicemcfarlane5397 4 дня назад
God Bless you Father, I ask for your prayers at this time for my parish priest Father Tyler and his mother she is very ill. Your prayers I know God hears them , we are all praying for him, thank you Father Mark may God shine bright in your life.
@mev680
@mev680 4 дня назад
God places good and evil before us and demands we choose. Choosing good is always hard. Choosing evil is always easy. Not choosing is choosing evil. The time has come. You cannot hide. You must choose between Vigano and Bergoglio. Now choose.
@sheasheagirl7
@sheasheagirl7 4 дня назад
Thank you fr Mark Goring!
@janetwegner8220
@janetwegner8220 4 дня назад
Father, are you open to learn and do the TLM?
@jeffcoleman6040
@jeffcoleman6040 4 дня назад
I converted 12 years ago, I was told about the SSPX, when I researched them I found that they were Not approved by the church so I stayed away from them. I know of sspx’ers that say they are the true church. My wife and I have since found the Latin mass during Covid, I feel truly blessed with it. My wife and I go to the N O if we need to and find we feel detached from the mass.
@atrifle8364
@atrifle8364 4 дня назад
I'd be interested to find out how many Protestant converts attend a Missal of 1962 Mass regularly. Given online conversations, it seems very high. The Mass is not about your feelings or experience there. The Mass is many things all at once. It's not a time of open mediation, as a Mass said in Latin encourages. Find the best and closest Mass to you and attend regularly. Then pay attention to it, rather than the people/music/etc. You will feel attached ideally to Jesus, who is there.
@sethsaviero9137
@sethsaviero9137 2 дня назад
What you said isn’t true. Catholics who attend the SSPX do not believe they are the “true church”. I attend the SSPX and I also attend Diocesan Latin Mass.
@user-cs4to7qm3k
@user-cs4to7qm3k 4 дня назад
I agree with you Fr. Mark Goring!!
@avjb1872
@avjb1872 2 дня назад
As a craddle Catholic who had strayed, the main reason I returned to the faith was the Traditional Latin Mass. I think anyone who looks at the recent history of the Church will immediately understand that were it not for Archbishop Lefbvre there would currently BE no Traditional Latin Mass. It really is that simple
@marymesquita2564
@marymesquita2564 4 дня назад
Thank you for being a great person and priest. May God bless you, your family and all who read this!
@juanaguitierrez1801
@juanaguitierrez1801 4 дня назад
Good morning Fr.Goring Latin mass is beautiful maybe you should try it celebrating the Latin mass pray about it! I am praying for you. 🙏🏻❤️✝️🕯️📿
@clairestevens3194
@clairestevens3194 4 дня назад
It takes a lot of training for a priest to learn to say the TLM.
@margeritahorvath8306
@margeritahorvath8306 4 дня назад
Alot of priests don't know how to celebrate the Latin mass..😔
@susiegreenwood8320
@susiegreenwood8320 4 дня назад
Been going to TLM since lockdown....I first went to the SSPX who did not lockdown....but go to my own Oratory parish who since opening do now offer TLM....it is SO beautiful... greetings to all who read this, from South 🇿🇦
@atrifle8364
@atrifle8364 4 дня назад
He says the traditional Latin Mass all the time. It's the current version that emphasizes the sacrifice and is said in the language of the people.
@atrifle8364
@atrifle8364 4 дня назад
@@margeritahorvath8306 - Every priest in the Roman Church knows how to celebrate the Latin Mass. A few of them do say the Missal of 1962.
@thelmavillaruz2009
@thelmavillaruz2009 3 дня назад
Thanks fr mark for sharing
@theswede1276
@theswede1276 4 дня назад
Thank you Father
@henrychiari6623
@henrychiari6623 4 дня назад
Fr Mark,,, Thanks for sharing about the Oblates , 🙏🏻👍🙏🏻👍🦘🦘🦘👍🙏🏻
@jc2939
@jc2939 4 дня назад
When the mass was done in Latin, you could go to any country & follow the Mass
@scottwiley8547
@scottwiley8547 4 дня назад
And how many countries have you been to and heard Mass?
@atrifle8364
@atrifle8364 4 дня назад
How many were understanding it? I am sure I could follow any Mass in any foriegn language. What I could not do is pray with it. Plus, what travel oriented idea - a very first world view.
@atrifle8364
@atrifle8364 4 дня назад
@@scottwiley8547 - It's such a first world complaint, too. It's this side of "And you could find McDonald's anywhere!"
@dentryn4365
@dentryn4365 2 дня назад
@@atrifle8364 Most understood. Translation was alongside Latin in the Missal.
@isaaclongworthcc
@isaaclongworthcc 4 дня назад
Good word Fr. Mark! Praise God for the witness of this holy nun!
@PhillipsTraining
@PhillipsTraining 4 дня назад
Her books gives an amazing perspective! Highly recommend it
@irenedsouza794
@irenedsouza794 4 дня назад
Fr Mark Goring may you bring many souls in catholics faith to be strong many ways to do God's will and make 🙏 his name higher and higher 🙏 Amen God bless you fr 🙏 may good God keep you always strong.
@Starfish56
@Starfish56 4 дня назад
Thank Father for all your wonderful stories. God be with you.
@susanabdallah8020
@susanabdallah8020 4 дня назад
Thank you, Father. Excellent analysis.
@elingeniero2000
@elingeniero2000 4 дня назад
Thank you for your message
@geraldpelletierosb6713
@geraldpelletierosb6713 4 дня назад
Read what Our Lady of La Salette says about the present-day Church or even the warnings given by Our lady of Fatima about the hierarchy. The messages are a real eye opener.
@GreenKnight1979
@GreenKnight1979 4 дня назад
In an emergency you have to go through the red light sometimes.
@atrifle8364
@atrifle8364 4 дня назад
"Emergency" has been the excuse for millennia to not listen.
@GreenKnight1979
@GreenKnight1979 4 дня назад
@@atrifle8364 “just following orders” gave us the Holocaust and gulags.
@atrifle8364
@atrifle8364 4 дня назад
@@GreenKnight1979 - That idea is modernism. Private follow orders, they don't put them under a looking glass, treating every order like it's moral imperative to judge it. Leaders gave us those things. The rest of world just generally needs to cope. The vast majority of orders are lawful, to the point of unlawful orders being almost a unicorn.
@GreenKnight1979
@GreenKnight1979 4 дня назад
@@atrifle8364 And that's how 100+ million people were murdered under Communism. Or is that just a unicorn event, lol?
@flabiger
@flabiger 3 дня назад
"I'm obedient to the Magisterium until I decide that I don't want to be obedient." Obedience only when you deem it correct is not obedience at all. "Let every person be subordinate to the higher authorities, for there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been established by God. Therefore, whoever resists authority opposes what God has appointed, and those who oppose it will bring judgment upon themselves." - Romans 13:1-2
@nicolaztrevino3376
@nicolaztrevino3376 4 дня назад
So many other faiths or religious love tradition. But are Catholic Brothers and sisters dislike or even hate it. It brakes my heart to hear that and see it. I Love the TLM. I am a alcoholic and a drug user. I know I failed so many times but so do u. My soul knows there is only one truth and one faith but most of all One God in 3. It's like back in the day during the Cristeros war. We fight for Christ and his Holy Mother the church. It's not about feeling or what u think is right but what is God's will for us. Novus Ordo translate into New Order. New order to what? I ask u , do your sons, daughters, cousins, mothers and fathers still going to Mass? Would stop doing to Mass because it rains, snow, storms, Plan Demixs? If we are Christian Catholic then we must fight to be that and love to learn about are faith. Love u my brother's and sister's sisters. God bless. JMJ
@Runsfrombears
@Runsfrombears 4 дня назад
Father you really should learn and study the TLM as well as the other traditional sacraments. I think you would love it.
@atrifle8364
@atrifle8364 4 дня назад
Why? He's administering the traditional sacraments right now.
@Mikemanify
@Mikemanify 3 дня назад
@@atrifle8364 Traditional sacraments that were all altered in the 60s.
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