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I just wish GW would annouce or preview these kind of thing. They could have said Ruination and Skaven should be expected this fall in the last announcement instead of going "Warcry got a box recently, I guess"
@@RawilowI am entirely on your side. What my issue is this doom hopping from first Underworld and then with the Warhammer Day preview it is Warcry that is dying instead. It is either stuck in the past (it was better then) or a horrible future (where no game exists anymore).
Since we're talking Skaven, what's your opinion on using a Master Moulder instead of a Packmaster ? Since Heroes are kind of a tax for Skaven, a pretty cheap one who can double up as a tankier Packmaster seems pretty good.
I'd probably still run the packmaster because if you are running pure skaven, the 70 points allows you to bring them back with the battle trait which you cant do with the MM
I like having some new things to try out but overall I'm a little disappointed with the changes to Skaven. Rat ogors were already really good - what needed improvement were the non-brute fighters to make builds other than the rat ogor-packmaster combo more viable. For example, maybe make some of the chaff 5 points cheaper, make things you never see (like Doom Flayers, which just got a new model) cheaper, or reduce the cost for some of our heroes which are still over-costed from before the Lead from the Back nerf.
The new skaven aren't out yet I don't think? Besides, after this and the last release, I'm totally expecting a FEC style update to skaven with all the new stuff (and Bracken said as much in April). I can wait :)
Skaven are out this weekend so fingers very much crossed! Worth noting that the ROgres have gotten a massive boost with this update so I'd expect Stormfiends to go up to something like 300 points with the corresponding stat buffs so the giant Moulder thing would definitely be monster sized.
okay so question about the clawlord's ability: it states "bonus attack action and bonus move action". the way i interpreted this is you first do the attack action and only after you move. are those interchangeble? so i can do a move and then an attack? the first list i plan to do is indeed stormfiend clawlord and chaff! had the exact same thought. warlock engineer looks real fun and i plan to include him quite often as well. now to hope they add the new stormvermin and weapon teams asap!
As written you get to do them in any order you like, otherwise the wording would be do x. Then do y. The reference to this is rampage; [Quad] Rampage: This fighter can make a bonus move action up to a number of inches equal to the value of this ability. Then, they can make a bonus attack action. And it kind of makes sense in that the clawlord is commanding their fighters to move and attack things.
@@OffMetaMusings makes sense, thank you for the clarification. i'm looking foreward to playing with the clawlord, he's exactly how i immagined him. kinda tough for skaven standard, kinda expensive, has a decent melee profile and a crappy ranged one and plays a commanding role unlike most of our other heroes. they definately hit the nail on the head with this one.
because it's worded bonus attack action AND A bonus move instead of bonus attack action AND THEN A bonus move (see rampage for reference), you get to do them in any order you want :)