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Ok but yo mama 😂

@@ThePunisher-si8ex How old are you??

It does?

Owned by John Muse a corporate Republican scumbag. Sure....we can trust this media source. LOL

@@odyssey1000 yo mama cry son. Tears of happiness 😂

Yeah, that's why we have the results from the 'alien sphere' from Texas, LOL. Ross must know by now it's just a plain old terrestrial ball check valve, but he hasn't published those results because he's a UFO fanboy and has books to sell.

That is ridiculous he is a discredited journalist and a well known ufo fraudster. Absolute liar of a man. I have his book if you want it free otherwise I am going to wipe my arse with it

His voice is buttery smooth too! 👌

I watch 60 Minutes Australia more than our 60 Minutes.

he’s a joke, he’s like a cult member, a true believer good lord

We Australians are shit stirrers 😂😂🇦🇺

I think it's worth pointing out that Coulhart and NewsNation aren't covering a story that other media outlets refused to cover. They are covering a story that other news outlets refused to PURCHASE.

Coulthard is a hack who lost his previous job for making up fake stories. That's why he's at this tin pot station now along with Cuomo, another disgraced clown. NewsNation is where careers go to die.

Ross owes a debt of gratitude to all who didn’t check his illustrious late career. Also Australia thanks America for giving Ross the opportunity not to have to appear on Australian broadcasts.

@@the_black_douglas9041 All Australians owe Ross a debt of gratitude for uncovering the Butcher of Bega thats for sure.

I don't see how they can travel across the galaxy but crash over Vegas.... it's always grainy photos and interviews. C'mon man.

Agreed.

@@AFuller2020 You can safely ignore the Vegas “incident” as a hoax. It looked like a normal bolide crashing. Not saying there’s no chance it’s true, but I’m 99.999999% certain it is false.

@@AFuller2020 Travelling across the galaxy, as you put it, is very likely the safest part of the journey for any civilisation advanced enough to have developed the means to do it. It is said that flying in an aeroplane is the safest form of travel. It's the take off and landing that are the dangerous parts. I know there is a big difference between flying, for instance, between London and New York, and travelling from one star system to another, but I hope you can see my point. Even more important is the fact that when the destination planet is reached by our hypothetical star travellers, they are entering into what is, for them, an alien environment. They are at the mercy of the alien planet's attendant weather and electromagnetic systems, most of which will be totally different from what they are used to on their home planet and also potentially dangerous. I'm sure you are well aware of how destructive the forces of nature can be even to us here on planet Earth. Furthermore, just because a technology is incredibly advanced, and made by non-human hands, doesn't mean to say that it is infallible and indestructible. Anything that is manufactured can go pear shaped. As I have already mentioned, It is said that flying in an aeroplane is the safest form of travel, but planes still crash for all kinds of reasons, do they not? It's also worth noting the possibility that our own radar, etc., etc., may be a potential hazard for the navigation system of an alien craft. Finally, I don't know whether you've noticed, but us lot have a nasty habit of shooting at things, and we've even developed surface to air missiles and goodness knows what else. Some possible food for thought? C'mon man.

​@AFuller2020 Advanced doesn't mean invincible. Real life isn't a sci fi movie.

Mainstream will cover it fox and CNN did a little coverage this weekend. The hearings on Capitol Hill are being set up they said.

The claim is that we've had access to alien spacecraft for at least 3 decades. Yet we're still utilizing aircraft and space vehicles that use technology that's almost 100 years old, some older. If after decades we still can't reverse engineer alien technology, we're not as smart as we've made ourselves to be.

Yeah, right before the gov't's attack on Trump they're floating ufo stories. Let's see, only ufo whistleblowers are protected - not guys like Julian Assange & Ed Snowden - only this gov't weirdo (plant) Grusch. Thank God West is on.

What makes you think he’s credible. It is 100% hearsay. Not a shred of evidence.

@@commodoor6549 How smart have we made ourselves to be?

Open discussion with REAL SKEPTICS next time please

Personally I'm sick of it,have heard same ol,same ol,for years and years,I have 26 years in this,I know nothing will come of it,because it is a race,a race to crack this Tech,America wants to make sure it is the one to crack it first,can you imagine if Russia,or China work it out everyone will be F*cked!,That is why we won't get the most important information.

Does it really matter they’ve always been there so what’s gonna change we would never be able to beat them if we wanted to. They would’ve took us out by now anyway probably the creators of us, something is

@@ajdesmond9545 so you just blindly believe this ?

an expert at conning people , like Randi

Phil Klass 0.2.. paid opposition.

Mick West is wrong and the phenomena is real

Isn't he just a gamer?

@@leonienolan511 Bro, I'm just a gamer too and even I know Mick West is full of shit. ANYONE denying this phenomena is real is full of shit. Unfortunately the "whistleblower" is untrustworthy.

@RogerMcMillan But Bob didn't have the security clearance or a big fat whistle-blower congress protection act.

@Roger McMillan Whether Bob Lazar is legit or not, there are many reasons that this claim is more significant.

Don’t worry about David I’m sure he’ll be well compensated for his story. 💴 💰

Everything Lazar said is being confirmed through the years. Now, this is very serious, Grusch is a hero. He needs support also from the community, this is the time everyone was waiting for. For those in the US, please call your senator, call the press. This will be our legacy, towards a world without suppression. There is a very interesting info: one of the 12 disclosed (to the senate) craft, the first captured craft was in Italy, in 1944, and it has a bell shape: just like Kecksburg and the WWII German bell ufo story, without a doubt the Germans did try to reverse engineer it. I suspect that this is ancient, this was an archaeological find. The Germans were using an Hindu sign as insignia because it certainly was drawn on the - very advanced - ship fuselage. This craft was originally retrieved in the 1930's, and this is one of the reasons behind the secrecy for all those years. It is a Vimana, possibly originally recovered in Afghanistan, Pakistan, or India.

@Sal Spencer Your mother is lying for profit.

Honest question: do you have any examples of those things he's supposedly got horribly wrong, please? I see some comments claiming that, but not specific cases.

@@davido2644 West is like a fanatic. A Zealot, only his subjective reality isn´t religious. His mind somehow does not seem able to be open minded about the topic. He called believing in Ufos ridiculous, and he is a debunker. I can understand that from someone not familiar with the topic who still hangs on to the stigma. But this guy has all the information he needs, has talked to many poeple who´ve seen it. But he views anything related to the topic as if he knows the answer already, and all the other people are stupid for believing in what they see with their own eyes. He KNOWS ufos are not real, but they are, and its becoming harder and harder to deny that reality. He cannot go back, and he has no ground to go forward on. One proven Ufo and the reality of it will crush down on him. He should cut his losses and try to debunk flat earth or something

@@hansoerteras3983 You probably haven't watched his videos, per his own words he'd be totally on board if the evidence was good. Anyway, that's not what I was asking the other person.

Once I realized that Mick was intentionally ignoring data points in cases in order to apply prosaic explanations that wouldn’t have fit all data points (sensors/accounts), I came to the conclusion that he’s either paid for by folks in Pentagon or he’s lying to himself, and in turn, others.

Examples please!

Ross said, "Big facts, or back off"

Ross is on Mount Rushmore on this topic

AUSSIE, AUSSIE, AUSSIE, OI! OI! OI!

excellent Ross Coulthart and David Grusch

Tic tac video from the US navy / pentagon? Lol come on…

Our computers and cell phones and touch screens and fiber optics etc. Is the proof it's from alien technology from Roswell Crash of 1947!

​@@GladiusJon Nothing points into the direction that it is of ET origin. Its an ambiguos, inconclusive video.

@@Vishous1072 that was measured by multiple military sensor systems dropping 80000 ft in millisecoons - or about 65g. no aircrafme currently flying can withstand more than 12g before the frfame alerts would be screaming and at 15+g the pilot would be turned into mashed potato. There aren't any unmanned aircraft that can tolerate that stress in EA either . and high artifacts have been times doing mach 6+ in the'50's on military sensors when we had barely just learnt how to go supersonic. Of course lens flare is the answer........

They offed J.Forrestal for trying to get the subject in the open & out of the Pentagon & IMC hands. Edit: Anyone thinking it's just the US involved shd check out the Marine.. Lance Corporal Weygandt's experience in Peru, even if you're skeptical...it's worth a watch.

they aired it on their cable news channel, not the internet.

It's on twitter

its everywhere, you need to look deeper

@@fernandoquintana3675 thank you so much - great tip on where to find it! Off to find now

@@slimischillin7753 No one watches TV, it needs to be online and it will be.

I'm waiting too.

We demand it! xd seriously though..

Today is disclosure day interview drops at the same time the press club live stream drops the same time that "The Lost Century" movie drops BUT YOU ALL KNEW THI ANYWAY .......RIGHT ? Greer will live stream a speech detailing the new legal team brought in to protect Grusch & inventors whove had free energy patents stolen by the Terrorist US Govt

Me too

They have: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-O_ceEJUnETo.html

You're describing the difference between skeptic and debunker.

its the "other" guy (ross) who did the interview

Mick West doesn't fall under any of those categories --- he is a clown who has a proven record of being wrong about literally everything all the time

​@Sean T Wrong! Mick West has been right countless times. Which planet are you on. Right about the gimble rotation being an artefact of the de-rotation mechanism. Right about the so-called green triangle UFO' s being simply the shape of the iris in the lens and the objects themselves being aircraft and stars. Now confirmed by the authorities. As a former pro photographer I came to the same conclusions. There are numerous other examples of West being correct.

Skeptic or not - claims that are made without evidence will be dismissed without evidence. Video or it didn't happen.

It's worldwide mate!

Nah. This is just distracting from the Biden’s FBI leak about them taking bribes from China and Ukraine

Verge of realizing Grusch is a fraud.

No it will destroy religion

There's nothing. Zero evidence.

@@mhaas281 you’re just ignorant. Do some research before you flap your gums.

meaning you will never accept anything other than an admission of aliens.

Or, maybe both the gov and this whistleblower are in on this cause they're doing this to cover up the capabilities of some new stealth aircraft they built. You may recall last year we revealed the B-21 Raider, but not exactly what it can do. At this point, if we REALLY have something extraterrestrial, by this point, they should show it off. Put this spaceship on cameras for the world to see, let scientists in said spaceship to prove that it isn't a movie prop and that it's made of stuff we can't make yet.

I believe that was Micks point here. The government cleared it, they aren't bothered about him saying these things.

Yea it’s def a psy op. There is zero evidence for anything extra terrestrial

​@@timmyg44 if they have nothing to hide then why not show us everything. they work for us

You absolutely should be..this is again a handful of peoplle having claims but as always..nothing has been presented yet. A testimony is nice and good but nowhere in science is that enough to justify anything.

It won't be good enough anymore as you'll claim it's ai

@@pixelcount350 what? lol

@@swagikuro I believe @Pixel Count is suggesting that the goal posts will just be moved. In the past, say, someone presented some shaky video. And you get people who scoff, because the video is poor quality. Now, if clear video or images were presented, it could be argued that the imagery is fabricated by generative AI tools, like midjourney. At least, thats how I'm interpreting it.

@@timothybarela1305 You're probably right. Honestly though, as long as there is a more rational explanation, that is what people should lean towards. And these mundane explanations are more rational because we know they're real. They can call it "moving the goal post", but that is the reality of the situation.

Thoughts on the current controlled EXTRATERRESTRIAL reality disclosure process and related US GOV cover-up? Will it be simply a partial disclosure? Once the uneasy, contagious giggling subsides, how will our civilization and the misled sheep adapt to this publicly known reality? Are the good Shepherds withholding the truth in our best interest? Perhaps multiple species are involved? How will the 80+ years of dishonesty be addressed? Is it required that we be honest when it comes to our tax returns? Has the cost of maintaining the lie exceeded the price of simply telling the truth? Is it time this great country starts walking the walk and become the leader we proclaim ourselves to be? What might be some of the potential implications of disclosure of this reality? New energy sources perhaps? Transportation? Religions? History? The economy? Race relations? The environment? Politics? Perhaps it leads to confirmation of hidden energy alternatives and an established "secret" space program? But does the flock really want to know the complete story?

"I would do it [study UFOs], but before agreeing to do it, we must insist upon full access to discs (EXTRATERRESTRIAL vehicle) recovered. For instance, in the L.A. case, the Army grabbed it and would not let us have it for cursory examination." J. Edgar Hoover-Director of FBI The security guard called and said, “Sir, there’s a glowing red object hovering right outside the front gate. I’ve got all the men out here with their weapons drawn.” We lost between 16-18 ICBMs (nuclear tipped Inter Continental Ballistic Missiles) at the same time UFOs were in the area… (A high-ranking Air Force officer) said, “Stop the investigation; do no more on this and do not write a final report. I heard that many of the guards that reported the incident were sent off to Vietnam." Captain Robert Salas, USAF, during a videotaped interview for the Disclosure program. "A few insiders know the truth...and are studying the bodies that have been discovered." -Dr. Edgar Mitchell Apollo 14..the 6th NASA employee to walk on the Moon. "Maximum security exists concerning the subject of UFOs.” CIA Director, Allen Dulles, 1955. "It's still classified above Top Secret." - Senator Barry Goldwater, 1975 “Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960. "We alone cannot take credit for our technological advances,we have had help from people of other worlds". Dr. Herman Oberth, father of rocketry and aeronautics - American Weekly 1954 D“We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false” -William Casey, CIA director, 1981 “Yes, there have been ET visitations. There have been crashed craft. There have been material and bodies recovered. There has been a certain amount of reverse engineering that has allowed some of these craft, or some components, to be duplicated. And there is some group of people that may or may not be associated with the government at this point that have this knowledge. They have been attempting to conceal this knowledge. People in high level government have very little, if any, valid information about this. It has been the subject of disinformation in order to deflect attention and create confusion so the truth doesn’t come out. ” ― Edgar D. Mitchell, The Way of the Explorer: An Apollo Astronaut's Journey Through the Material and Mystical World AFFIDAVIT (1) My name is Thomas Jefferson Dubose (2) My address is: XXXXXXXXXX (3) I retired from the U.S. Air force in 1959 with the rank of Brigadier General. (4) In July 1947, I was stationed at Fort Worth Army Air Field [later Carswell Air Force Base] in Fort Worth, Texas. I served as Chief of Staff to Major General Roger Ramey, Commander, Eighth Air Force. I had the rank of Colonel. (5) In early July, I received a phone call from Maj. Gen. Clements McMullen, Deputy Commander, Strategic Air Command. He asked what we knew about the object which had been recovered outside Roswell, New Mexico, as reported in the press. I called Col. William Blanchard, Commander of the Roswell Army Air Field, and directed him to send the material in a sealed container to me at Fort Worth. I so informed Maj. Gen. McMullen. (6) After the plane from Roswell arrived with the material, I asked the Base Commander, Col. Al Clark, to take possession of the material and to personally transport it in a B-26 to Maj. Gen. McMullen in Washington, D.C. I notified Maj. Gen. McMullen, and he told me he would send the material by personal courier on his plane to Benjamin Chidlaw, Commanding General of the Air Material Command at Wright Field [later Wright Patterson AFB]. The entire operation was conducted under the strictest secrecy. (7) The material shown in the photographs taken in Maj. Gen. Ramey’s office was a weather balloon. The weather balloon explanation for the material was a cover story to divert the attention of the press. (8) I have not been paid or given anything of value to make this statement, which is the truth to the best of my recollection. Signed: T. J. Dubose Date: 9/16/91 Signature witnessed by: Linda R. Split Notary Public, State of Florida. "There exists a shadowy government with its own Air Force, its own Navy, its own fundraising mechanism, and the ability to pursue its own ideas of national interest, free from all checks and balances, and free from the law itself. “ - Daniel Inouye Senate Select Committee on Secret Military Assistance to Iran and the Nicaraguan Opposition (Iran-Contra hearings) (1987) REMOTE VIEWING (a technique developed by our CIA and Stanford Research Institute) PER FARSIGHT INSTITUTE data suggests...Genesis 19:24 Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven...perhaps it was someone else? AND..As the Quran has it, Prophet Muhammad took a night trip to heaven aboard a trusty winged pony-horse-mule-ish creature called Buraq...or maybe it was something entirely different? Many other topics begin to make sense.. It has been said that after President Carter was finally briefed on the et reality, he was deeply upset. For several weeks.. MEANINGFUL congressional hearings might be a good place to start ala the Watergate hearings, including aerospace/defense contractors and others such as Bob Lazar, Andrew Basiago and Vice Admiral Thomas R. Wilson must be held to address a vital issue that transcends politics and we will never properly advance until it happens: The 75+yr ongoing-constitutionally illegal, EXTRATERRESTRIAL and associated TIME TRAVEL and SECRET SPACE PROGRAMS cover-ups. It would also be nice to know what the results of the many years/projects involving the back-engineering of recovered "vehicles" are. Who has been footing the bill for that? How can we truly believe anything our elected officials say? The longer an "official" disclosure is delayed...the more disruptive it could be and the longer our slavery will stay entrenched. The general public is waiting to be given permission to believe...to know. The dog and pony shows must cease.

And this is the the inherent problem with being a professional skeptic. You job is not to do anything other than debunk. Same can be said for the other side of the argument too, however.

@@Dodgevair honestly thank you! So many different touch points over the years in one place. Anyone who reads this, and thinks it’s all still bs is absolutely delusional. Cheers

West's belief is that ET visitation is impossible, and so some "possible" alternative explanation, however improbable, is the explanation. That said, absent clear evidence to the contrary, there is justification to think ET visitation, while not impossible, is highly improbable.

While skepticism can be a useful tool, you hardly find it being used as such. Especially online, mostly just loud, insecure people virtue signalling. Somewhere in their confused lives they turned the tool into a belief system. We live in an age of sheep like scientism.

I agree, but that's pig headed debunking, not skepticism. Mate l didn't blv (not that l knew much) & one night when I was 19..it took 4-5mins to change my mind completely! Humans... we're overrated!

Facts. suck. right ?

He knows he's about to destroy that guy's little debunking party

​@@bluenick4577in order to 'destroy' someone in a debate you need some facts in evidence. Not one person who believes Grusch has been able to provide a SINGLE fact in evidence. Nothing that is both indicative of their position and actually true. All you guys have done is fail, miserably disastrously, and claim victory like the delusional pack of idiots y'all are.

He is just a ufo propaganda. He knows nothing.

He didn't believe a thing about UFOs til a few yrs back. He's one of the last of Australias proper journos... There used to be plenty of em... Murdoch & Fairfax put a stop to outing politicians, crook coppers, corporates & banks. Why Coulthart left 60mins.

and if you believe that, I got a bag of 3 dollar bills to sell you.

He's a paid liar, as opposed to all the people that have actually seen and experienced things, and tell everyone about it for free.

yea. stop all other viewpoints ,,,good idea

@@castorkat4868 Thats not what hes saying dummy.

"Dangerous" - 😂😂😂 So who is paying him exactly? You seem to have a lot of knowledge about it.

Exactly. Professionals debunkers are not trustable. They simply reject every UFO story a priori. It's just like those who believe every UFO story a priori. They stick to the same side for their entire career and that is not a scientific approach. Debunkers seem desperate these last years though. What we need is proper, serious research. To lift the sigma on the field already so that can be done openly.

There is STILL NO EVIDENCE. Not one piece of any kind of evidence for any of his claims has been presented, at all, not one, not once, not even a scrap of paper. How are you all so irrationally throwing out the need for ANY evidence? You're just revealing that you don't actually care about science or facts, you just need people to tell you what you believe is true. You're all like Fox Mulder on acid. Even he would need ONE LITTLE IOTA OF ACTUAL EVIDENCE.

R O G U E, not ROUGE. Rouge is something women put on their cheeks.

They freaked out over a pandemic, that our scientists designed.

Do you mean uncredible? Lol

Yeah, I understand the ambiguity - thanks to both of you! (Sometimes syntax and semantics are weird…) 😅

He's growing more anxious by the day because he knows it's real and it's hard for him to keep it neutral

why, is he ruining your fun? grow up.

@@bluenick4577 only in your dreams.

Right he thinks the dude is a balloon probably lmao

Mick is simply pointing out that there is no real evidence to the extraordinary claims that Grusch has made.

@@zazen69 except mick would be saying the same even if it landed in his backyard...

@@zazen69 no public’s evidence but congress and those who have access to that evidence can confirm his claims. Mick West adds nothing to the conversation but snark skepticism.

​@@gfenwick1 No, he wouldn't.

exactly. no evidence revealed so far.

Classified.

@@MarrsAttax Yep, the usual excuse...

Agree 100%. Show some evidence. Not talk and hearsay

There's definitely evidence. My friend saw it; that's what his wife told me when she was mad at him for mis-representing her.

I mean the evidence is classified. If he showed it his ass would be in jail for the rest of his life. Hes taking the route that anyone else would take

Just because you haven’t seen it, yet, doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. In the full interview, he DOES say he’s seen photos, documentation, project details etc., - and he’s presented the evidence, under oath, to congress via the IC inspector general. Funny how people are happy to accept wars that are started on “trust me, I can’t show you the evidence but bad guys (with lots of oil) have got weapons of mass destruction” ..and over a million die as a result. - All this guy has done in the process of his job is to expose decades of illegal practices and a huge cover-up, and quite rightly wanting the tax-payer funded congress to uphold their commitment to investigate what he’s brought them. If he’s lying, he goes to jail.

He’s doing this the right way. Be patient. If we keep pushing congress to investigate the govt will be forced to show their hand. It’s now our responsibility to force congress to find the truth through transparency. Grusch has formally & legally opened the door for disclosure. This moment is huge.

David made the announcement because he received retaliation as he debriefed people (as a witness) in Congress. He had to do this announcement with his lawyer recommendation because this delicate subject had classified sources and methods that could send him to jail. Other witnesses are coming out today at National Press Club in DC.

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GV4SRQRfDQs.html

@RogerMcMillan so you've seen all the data he has provided to the subcommittees and the IG?

@Roger McMillan he’s just that guy who decides to risk his whole career when the timing allowed him to.

If someone is knowledgeable on UFO's, then it's not a UFO. Mick West has the knowledge and skills from his tech background along with his experience in debunking that has made him one of the most respected debunkers. Claiming that means nothing, though. It is demonstrated in his videos.

Yeah, he's probably never seen a warp drive, just warped minds.

@@bahjinelson3986 what you said sounds incredibly stupid, you guys respect a man who is biased and entire argument is to say it isn’t true, he is a debunker meaning that he chose his side of the fence how do you respect a one sided argument you are just as worse as the man who believes a flying paper plate on a video is a actual UFO….you are basically one in the same

Thus far there's nothing to debunk. No evidence just stories.

ya i think its the other way around. the "I WANT TO BELIEVE" crowd wants to believe so hard they see valid skepticism as some form of attack.

@@__shifty Thank You

They are scared because it s happening too much, our sensitive airspace is getting raped by these things on a daily basis.

Because they are not succeeding the reverse engineering and found out that china is winning because everybody's working on it

the govt is not speaking about it.

It's to *fool* China & Russia into believing that the USA has Alien tech.

It's not just happening now. This all started in 2017

You mean the Whistleblower? IF so I think I know what you mean. I put some of the inappropriate smiling or shaking head when he is affirming something down to nerves, extreme stress and the fear and anxiety of not being believed. He is the first, the doorman if you will. He has the weight of the Pentagon and God knows who else who have threatened him (hence he got the lawyer to protect him). I believe him based on his credentials, based on the fact that he has been verified by people in higher positions as completely trustworthy. I believe him because he spent 11 hrs under oath with defence to go over his statement and classified details. And they escalated this to a congressional committee to meet and tagged this of the highest importance and urgent. So from my point of view, I am halfway there, I still want to see clear proof, transparency and accountability.

Not really, seems like he couldn't even get the details about the lawyer right lol

@@Raidz-448 or the complaint with the Inspector General, which deflated his whole argument. Also, its not just America that has UAP issues. He mentioned that earlier, and was wrong. He does well on his own forum, and flight simulators.

Achshually kryptonite isn't real

Did you say gift or grift?

They had to be serious but also opposed thinking made ratings, more ads...more money...Intelligent people tend to be pragmatic but when ours neighbors says Hi in a massive manner then those Mick West of the world are gonna said...see I know they where here...😂...

And in contrast, you have the same UFOshills out here making bank with their books and reality TV shows making all kinds of bullsht claims about easily proven science. Mick is actually right in his assessments, and you won't find a REAL AND CREDIBLE astrophysicist who disagrees with him.

wow an actual reasonable and logic comment about all of this

There can only be two outcomes. He's either lying because he's a disinformation agent, or he's been allowed to spread a lie that he doesn't know is a lie, but that those that gave him the information know is a lie.

Surely this right?

And going to prison for life for perjury (lying under oath). Nobody would do that just for a giggle and joke.

diseases maybe look what happened to the native americans

If you were an extraterrestrial would you come to planet of the apes???

One possibility is they are moral and believe such an overt display would be be very harmful to our civilization. Another possibility is they just don't care and want to carry on doing what they are doing without us interfering.

@@raptorman48 Even considering the laughable silliness of your question, that would definitely be a place they would want to visit. They would be here the first day after they detected nuclear power plants. Anyway, we have never for certain observed any evidence of anything more or even as advanced as ourselves. The UFOs "might be" the only such evidence after governments stop hiding it.

There are many eye-witness accounts throughout modern history involving appearances of undeniable UAPs in broad daylight seen by entire townships or municipalities. Nothing like "Independence Day" of course but why would they need to or want to make dramatic appearances like that? From everything David said in the interview, these NHI (non human intelligences) don't care for things like that. They've been observing humanity and intervening very little over many decades if not longer. My take on it is that we're the ants in the ant-hill - who cares about impressing ants? Nobody.

What he said made perfect sense though, if he believes what he heard it's not a lie it's just not accurate information. Lying would be knowing it's not true but saying it anyway

He's being respectful and polite. Mick has also produced his own video where he explains his position on this, that there probably is a program to retrieve objects of unknown origin because it's a national security risk and America has enemies like Russia and China capable of launching craft. None of this is shocking to consider. Maybe you should actually be honest and scientific in your process and watch some of his videos, instead of simply believing all this "trust me, bro" bullsht without any evidence or rational thought required?

Admitting once again that this is all emotive for you, not scientific. There are facts and then there are beliefs. Claims like this need EVIDENCE. Where is the evidence? Someone saying "trust me, bro!" is NOT EVIDENCE.

@@ct5625 First off, it is emotive because it concerns the fundamental aspects of our reality and our pompous self centered nature in it. The evidence is classified, the only reason Grusch was allowed to come out was because nothing he is saying is classified. Do you genuinely believe if he tried to come forward with all the evidence that he would have been allowed? I just love how people who demand all the smoking gun evidence don't consider the fact that the evidence they are demanding is beyond highly classified and has been hidden for decades and the people coming out to claim exactly this are dismissed by the very same people who demand to see that evidence. And what little evidence that has been released is dismissed by people like Mick West as balloons or birds, the witness testimony and whistleblowers be damned they must be mistaken because that is a safer and easier explanation and doesn't involve me having to alter my world view for something I deem to crazy or ridiculous or scary. Based on what? What exactly are people like Mick West expecting? If ET materials were released he'd come up with some other dismissive explanation, if an alien landed outside his house he'd say it was a carbon monoxide poisoning induced hallucination. My point is, nothing will ever satisfy career 'debunkers' like Mick West. Genuinely curious though, what would satisfy you?

YES YES and YES

Because Mick West doesn’t act in good faith in the slightest.

That's how you have to talk to a troll

That's the problem, it's always claims of UFOs. No actual evidence for the masses to see and judge for themselves. At least no actual clear evidence. A flying tic tac is not clear evidence in my opinion. This is no different than all the Bigfoot sightings over the decades. I mean if we're going by first hand accounts and crappy video then they have to be real too, right?

"t's now people who DON'T believe in claims on the UFO subject who are met with almost cartoonish derision." Laughable statement. The evidence for that statement is as convincing as the evidence for aliens which is not convincing at all. Stop wasting people's times and produce real concrete undeniable physical evidence for all this BS if you want to be taken seriously.

lol this aged so so quickly.

Precisely my thinking, he just doesnt want to admit it at any cost

😂 yeah him and my sister

We're still laughing at the guy who has been yammering about aliens' remains at Groom Lake for decades.

%100 on the money