"One of the most important things about learning to draw is the ability to suffer trough a lot of bad drawings" I'm definitely in that part of the learning path. Great video Marshal. Thanks for sharing your wisdom.
@@claireyuan4195 that "suffering" is your skill compared to your expatations. That suffering is mindset. Like he said, it is part of progress, not just in drawing, but in dancing, acting, singing, playing... Only important thing is what you will do with that suffering. If it cripples you, you are done. If it motivates you, you are on good tracts. Think of suffering as a good tool because it means you are not happy with everything you draw, you know it can be better so work on it. If you don't "suffer" it means you are in comfort zone. You are drawing something you allready know or you don't give a shit for progress. Again, use "suffering" as a tool. The tool that makes you work harder, not tool thst cripples you.
There's a moment when putting down a special line, where you look at the line and it just brings everything around it to life. Even if it's something sketchy or doodly, when you put that line down and suddenly sparks pop and fly in your brain as if that line completed a circuit and you feel transcendent. Suddenly, if you ever had to make a line like that again you know you'll be able to do it with confidence next time and the time after that. The sparks don't stop, nor are they ever blinding.
Had the pleasure of taking an 8 week class with marshall and I must say it was probably the greatest academic experience of my life. A true inspiration and imaginative talent, bravo!
Damn, I'm jealous! My best academic experience was a 5 day workshop with Aaron Blaise and Ronnie Williford, but that seems rather small compared to 2 months with Marshall! Stan and Marshall are definitely on my list to meet next, I hope they'll come to Europe some day.
That's what I've been experimenting with. I've noticed the sketches I do in pen feel and look so different than if they were in pencil. Then when I went back to the pencil I did exactly what Marshall said: erase, try to fix it, erase again, try to fix it, eventually getting so frustrated that I no longer wanted to sketch. By far the hardest thing is going through so many awful drawings and trying to believe that it'll get better one day with practice.
@@_Nyxus_ I know right. It's depressing if you can't learn from your mistakes. You're gonna have to evaluate the problems like see what's wrong but in a bigger picture. Having someone to critique is also helpful. For now im focused on anatomy because it really does help on knowing what to do and why it's there. Bout to move on gestures and mannequin.
@@novski3175 I've had so many issues trying to get gestures down. I think sometimes we have issues trying to make things simplistic, at least I have that issue. So when looking at Proko when he's teaching gesture drawings, it looks so easy, but when I attempt it it just looks terrible. So I'm going back and forth trying to do gestures, fundamental shapes, and human "beans."
@@_Nyxus_ i think gestures are more of line of action. I've tried commiting to perspective like Kim Jung Gi's method it's so advanced so I decided to learn anatomy first then move on to gestures then perspective. I'm still new to anatomy and how and wherever the limits of bones n muscles.
@@novski3175 Yeah anatomy and proportions are a beast to tackle. Just learned about the 600 page sketchbook challenge in 30 days so maybe all of us should try that!
I'm so glad I watched your first Asking Pros video and met this guy. He's such a ray of sunshine and happiness. Makes me think what if Goldberg gave up wrestling and took up art :)
"I don't think self consciousness is the best state to be when drawing" That's so true. I always mess up my drawings when someone is watching, so frustrating.
I LOVE this. It's motivational and inspirational whilst still being positive and very self-aware. It's not necessary to be so negative and critical all the time, and to me, this teaches me more than some videos that are trying so hard to teach things, whilst forgetting the most important factor in art: personality. Really good video.
I really like the idea of "this will be garbage anyway, so I will". It is a great pressure reliever. I came here to have some notions about horse drawing and Im leaveing with this beautiful lesson for all my drawings. Thank you.
Surprisingly, the thing I learned from this video was the last shadow he drew under the horse. It’s amazing to see such a casual but intentional drawing
I love the energy your drawings have, much more expressive than most of the drawing guides out there. It does take experience to be able to do this, as you know....Horses are such a great model of energy and anatomy....Just keep drawing...... The hardest part for me is to get my lines to describe the rounded form and suggest weight and musculature rather than being a mere outline.
When he described that you observe and then give it a go, then fail, then observe more and give it another go... I thought this wasn't a good thing, although is what comes more natural to me... so thank you for giving me permission to approach this part of art in a way that feels natural!
this was amazing. i always adore Marshalls voice and his personality... it comes through his drawings as well... i only started drawing with pen sometimes last year and he is right, it's the same for me too, if you draw with a tool that is permanent/defiant/and on impulse you wont fuss and bother redrawing something a thousand times to get there.. you will actually just do better or you wont take yourself too seriously and just do more reps (drawing more drawings rather than making one good one). Pen, marker, ink, sharpies, etc these are all good tools to get you sketching on impulse. ofcourse you may not be ready to do this but definitely give it a go.. itll grow on you :) PS beautiful horse sketches even the super rough ones were just tangible and modern, masterly. It really makes me wanna take up horse drawing all of a sudden lol
Glad you found the video useful. Marshall's approach to drawing with a pen and the things that motivated him to start drawing that way are interesting to hear and consider for ourselves.
Love it! It feels more like he's sitting next to you and explaining this like a grandpa would to his grandchild. Good craft also, those lines are beautiful!
"Our favorite voice, Marshall Vandruff" -- Oh, most definitely. We need to hear that man SING! EDIT: Oh, nm, we got it at the 5:00 mark! Thanks, Marshall! For the singing-- and for the drawings too!
I could watch this even if it was hours and hours long! Such mesmerizing lines....his hands are dancing on the paper with the pens...the way he is holding the pen!!! And silky voice too! I imagined i was a little girl and he is a grandpa like art teacher! I wish he made this type of videos drawing different subjects! Magical activity. Million thanks!
I just tried a few sketches and they look very good I was surprised you made me so at ease and explained every thing really good I'm proud of myself I'll keep on drawing thank you sir
I’d say pencils and erasers are like safety wheels in a sense that you can take them off when you feel comfortable, but for some people, it’s difficult to remove them because they know that it would be more hazardous.
When you used gpen nib while inking in second page ..how were u able to make those thick lines .like going over it again or it was in one stroke cuz that's I'm finding issues
holy cow! I sure am glad I surf't onto your RU-vid channel! great artist, great help! Thank you! You have a great voice, reminds me a bit of Walter white...
4:16...don't go over it.....oh darn, the original hoof was better! I am unfamiliar with Marshall Vandruff I have sketched horses in a fashion similar to this for over 50 years, having grown up with the Elaine Mitchell Silver Brumby series of books which were illustrated by Anette MacArthur Onslow. Her delightful pen and ink illustrations that evoked such a wonderful sense of playfulness, movement and mystery. Marshall went further than I would and personally, I prefer the initial sketch to the finished drawing. To me (not everyone) it lost some of its spontaneity each time he traced it, and became more of a cartoon. Perhaps that is what he were aiming for? Anyway, I am grateful to have found this and thankful you posted it.
which side are you on? #teamMarshall: ~"If the line goes shaky it's alright... I was doing these drawings late at night..."~ #teamProko: "practice your line work! instead of scribbly lines, try to control your stroke. learn to make a steady, clear, defined lines..." (or something like that..) (sorry Proko, but im sold to #teamMarshall) LOL
Not gonna lie, Marshall sounded like Fuhrer King Bradley from Full Metal Alchemist and it kinda made me chuckle a bit. Great video though, it helped me out quite a bit!
That front angle in the first set: being quadrupeds, of course their shoulders are much more rounded than a bipeds; easy to intellectualize, but that means their shoulder blades don't span across their backs, but slope steeply down from the withers to the sides. Sawhorse-fashion, so to speak. Grabbed a pencil and paper, and in 3 mintues sketched the most fluid, natural horse I've ever done. Thank you.
Marco Bucci, he certainly is a gem. Really happy to learn from him and Stan. I highly recommend his 7 hour lecture on perspective, it's just a lot of fun. His love and enthusiasm for art and teaching comes across well. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-j-TokC2XdCw.html
If you see this comment I beg you to make a tutorial video about how to draw horses. Am into drawing knights and that type of stuff so I'd like to learn it.
oh yes..this feeling of being watched and under pressure.... sometimes I like to show results more than the process, because I know the results are going to be better if I can be all on my own, my speed/tempo and no stress in the back of my mind. Although I am doing the exact same thing.
its like he can draw like heinrich kley, but he doesn't have the same audacity, he is too polite for this...at least in this video :) but all in all- marshall has been one of the most inspiring art teachers i ever had. even though i barely met the guy online once maybe, in his courses.
