Whenever I do something sketchy like that, I *ALWAYS* make sure that the heel of my hand is resting firmly on the fence so if something goes wrong, my hand won't drop into the blades.
Great tip! Thankfully for me, I can't chop my hand with a hand plane but this is definitely something I'll keep in mind as I introduce more power tools to my workflow
@@alexsavastru8125 ive seen some crazy injuries with a hand plane.. everything in a woodshop is potentially very dangerous if you're stupid... Just dont be stupid and youll be fine
@@jasonsimons4411You can’t just say “don’t be stupid” - you have to talk about what can happen or else people won’t even think it’s a possibility and be careless
@@bakedbeanfanclub that was a general "don't be stupid"... Obviously death and or dismemberment is on the table... But common sense and appropriate planning basically makes 99% of "accidents" a non issue... Accidents is in quotes because there's no such thing as an accident in my opinion.. everything is either avoidable but the person was dumb, or equipment failure like what caused me to lose a finger...
@justinschmitz1051 I kinda hate to disagree with you but there's too many things that a stupid person could do to hurt themselves in a woood working shop... if they had to list examples we'd be here reading a novel... not in the sense of "oh haha that comment was long, its a novel" but a full length book of everything that could possibly go wrong
I messed up on a jointer in highschool, and can say that video is 100% accurate. I can do that whole disappearing thumb trick like a pro now though fr.
Jamie Perkins from The Perkins Builder Brothers lost most of his left fingers to a jointer accident. Just goes to show that machines don’t care what they cut.
Yeah, but his accident was from not paying attention. He left the jointer running and had his back to it and then for some reason decided to stick his hand on it. He wasn't actually using it when the accident happened.
I stuck my hand in my bandsaw blade a couple years ago. Cost me a knuckle cap and surgery to reattach my tendon to my index finger. This was all while using push sticks but I was just pushing too hard trying to cut through a hundred years old knot. The night before a Christmas craft show. Luckily I got to keep my fingers/hand and after a few months of rehab I'm as good as new!
In my high school wood class, we had a kid just use the jointer and he flipped the switch to turn it off, but for some reason he stuck his finger in their to try and get it to stop faster. He found out it didn’t stop for his finger and had to go to the hospital. Never saw the kid in class again.
An operation like this is the only time in 27 years I've actually hurt myself in my shop. I took exactly 116th of an inch off of my thumb which is good to know my machine was set properly...
Insurance companies will thank you for denying your claim for not following factory safety rules in proper operation and providing public evidence. So take your finger and go home Homer hand. (FYI Homer has 3 fingers.)
Props for pointing out the dangerous actions in your Videos and the precautions you take to minimize the risk. My halfsister lost her right thoumb in a plaining accident and has not been capable to return to woodworking due to trauma. Be careful out there people!
I hope your regular followers welcome and appreciated the precautionary warning. My father was an avid woodworker with about 40 years of experience. I enjoyed working with him and thought I would take up the hobby when I retired. Unfortunately, one afternoon he lost the tips of three fingers in a joiner accident! There is no reattaching that which a joiner shaves off. The surgeon actually sent me back to the shop to look for something to reattach! I dutifully picked through the gruesome shavings just to confirm what I already knew. My woodworking aspirations sorta went into the shavings heap with his finger tips. I’m not confident or arrogant enough to believe it couldn’t happen to me too, and I couldn’t ever create anything in that shop more valuable than my finger tips!
@@isaactruss5922 he discussed the accident in a video not long after it happened. If you look back at the videos surrounding the timeframe you’ll find the one where he discussed exactly what went wrong.
@@isaactruss5922jointer guard wasn't working. Stored material on jointer table staged for planer. With planer running, didn't hear jointer was also running. Reached for material to put it through planer and stalled the jointer with his hand. 😢
even small lathes are scary: i had to make a recession for the top of a queen chess piece. i used a bent piece of metal which worked fine, but it got too hot. i wrapped it in a towel. i knew it was _safe_ because the lathe was tiny with little torque (designed to make pens and the like), but something like that is definitely a no no and i would never recommend anyone else do that.
Lol as someone who’s fingers met the teeth of a table saw- I would highly recommend thinking through every cut😂. Fortunately, I still have my digits but did lose some meat in the process. Nothing 40 stitches and a $10,000 trip to the ER couldn’t fix.
Genuinely loved my jointer in highschool, treated it with respect, and she never kicked or anything… but i had to chew the ears off plenty of freshmen as i was a junior taking the class
As I have aged my fear factor has increased alongside my confidence level dropping. Recently I needed to use my chain saw. Not for very much and not in a dangerous position. I set it all up to fill and re=read the instructions several times. Days went by before I bit the bullet and followed through. It ended up being easier than I thought or feared but I will continue to do what I did cos you tube has shown me how east it can be to F up badly.
Man I actually cought the tip of my ring finger about 2 weeks ago my fingernail was like shrapnel had to pull out pieces of it extremely lucky it's all healed up now and my fingernail has grown back
Understanding the purpose of a tool such as a joiner is key to safe operation. The joiner sole purpose is to face plane and edge plane a piece of stock to achieve a 90 degree /s2s corner. From there, the milling process continues. There are several concerns with your use adaptation. The grain of a burr or burl is unpredictable and may contain inclusions that will create kickback or shatter the piece. The minimum length of stock should be 12 inches in length. Your fence has the same flaw as the Powermatic Joiners with the plastic resin insert directly after the blades. This creates a sticking point for stock. I had a student encounter this situation and when he attempted to pull the stock back to free it, the stock kicked back and the paddle that he as using flipped his hand onto the blade. He lost two fingers in the blink of an eye.
A friend of mine placed his hand right on a jointer while adjusting something underneath the machine and he had to have his skin transplanted from his forearm and stuff, those machines are no joke!
I can tell you from personal experience what happens when things go bad with a jointer. It will plane your fingers, hand... Two fingers slightly shorter than their counterparts and one fouled up fingernail bed.
I’ve never operated a table saw but want to start doing it so I can do around the house fixes for my parents (and in the future if I ever own a home) and taking my hands off with a table saw is one of my biggest fears. I need to take a class or something - even though, I’ve worked in construction and at least operated a sawzall
Honestly, the table saw is probably the safest "scary" bit of machinery i own. Its the quieter or smaller tools that people get complacent with. Bandsaws and router tables are the main ones that come to mind. That being said, if you know someone competent with a tablesaw its always a good idea to ask if they can teach you
My Uncle lost 3 fingers on his left hand to a table saw, that is after they re-attached his thumb and ring finger. Otherwise he would only have a pinky left. Always treat machines with respect and a healthy dose of caution.
proper form on a table saw is incredibly safe. keep fingers out of danger zone, don't reach over, and stand to the side of the blade, it's as safe as a chop saw. table saws are big, scary tools and keep you alert. the smaller tools are more dangerous because you get complacent: routers, planers/jointers, and lathes are probably the scariest tools.
while I was studying carpentry. our teacher was showing how these machines work, and he really drove home the how NOT TO use them part when it took a piece of his thumb. but he did laugh about it afterwards. a true carpenter orders 5 beers with 3 fingers lol.
@@charlieandhudsonspal7031 and quick thumbs! You're the 2nd person in 2 days that I beat to the punch lol I watched Beavis and Butthead do the Universe a few days ago 😆
Bro.. I pass whole ass firewood logs through my jointer to create a 4-6” flat surface to then bandsaw mill into boards. You’ll be fine. If it makes you that nervous you can always use a belt sander, either stationary or handheld, with 40 grit. Takes twice the time but gives the same result
Whole ass fire logs...hahaha. I only put half ass fire wood in my 12 miter chop saw and broke the fence, blade guard and back guard right out. Hint...Lowes 12 sliding miter has NO replaceable parts. $300 tanked.
I had a guy in my highschool woodshop class rush to finish his project and ended up with half a pinky, jointers are scary machines when shit goes south.
In my fathers youth, he shortened his index finger on a jointer. Then, in high school, I watched a classmate do the same thing by curling his fingers over the front edge rather than using push blocks. A healthy fear/respect goes a long way.
I tangled with a table saw once. Did a little research after the fact and one thing that almost all accidents had in common was the premonition that we were about to do something bad.
Dude it would fit you well with a week in Europe. My shop isn’t big enough, but I know a lot who’s also gone through the four year program with exams every five weeks to even call themselves a woodworker. This is so insane, to even own and operate a machine like a jointer that could break your hand for life, without any training. I saw no problem at all jointing that piece, and it worries me that you do.
From what I've gathered over the years, in north america it's not required to have any diploma in order to be self employed as a woodworker. Those two paddles looked way more unsafe than just using ones hand. Had to joint way shorter pieces on bigger jointers - go slow enough so you can read the wood and don't lean onto it.
This is exactly why I WATCH and never try at home most of what I see on the internet. Except for that one time I lost my wine key and my smart ass bought a bottle of wine but forgot to buy a new one. The internet saved me and I found the key the next day.
When I was 20 I was cutting wood. Old head came up to me and told me to do it a different way. I knew it was wrong. It just felt dangerous. Kept doing it. When the wood kicked back I didn't even see it happen. Didn't feel it. Just was all of a sudden 10 feet from the saw, my hardhat was flying into an opposite wall and I knew something was off. Saw what I would describe as "a fatal amount" of blood, and the look on the face of a 50 year old foreman. I was working at a hospital and thank God. These days I respect saws and if it feels wrong, it's wrong.
My father make’s cabinets for our house and some other family member and he sliced his finger pads off, wouldn’t stop bleeding. He instead of clottering it he dipped it into hot wax after a few times through it healed. He gained his nerves back 2 months later thankfully
My college furniture design teacher regularly had me take the guard off the jointer and do some skeeeeeetchy cuts. I did, and im fine, but it was one of those moments where i was like "yeah im never doing this again without you here making me do it"
The way that was moving before it was on reminded me of when the deli slicer at my work kept moving the ham i was slicing and dragged my finger with it
Take a thick square piece of wood and install a handle on the top with woodglue and wooden dowels. You can now push the piece you are working on over the jointer from the back. The front side of the thick board will get a slight cut but you basically cannot slip and get you hand caught in the blades. Plus point is that you can use this sort of tool many times without having to remake it. Having one of those grip pads you used to aply slight pressure on the top is helpful as well in order to guarantee a smooth underside. And you can take your time while pushing the workpiece over the blades. Trust me its a great tool i highly recommend in order to not end up like me (got the back of ma hand cut off... also dont wear gloves people)
This happened to someone in my high school. It was like a meat slicer only faster. There is no way to reattach finely sliced fingers. He did a pretty good job of putting a nice angle on three fingers, though.
Always a safer way to do anything. You could have made an even bigger custom block, hot glued it, put feather board somewhere on it, sometimes I drive my car when there is freezing rain.... Depends on how much time you have...
Jaime Perkins of the Perkins Builder Brothers. Went from normal hands to a Terminator hand in about .05 seconds thanks to a jointer. Those things can and will mess you up for life
Seen it , watched a homie turn his fingers into spaghetti an loose all four fingers just past the last knuckle , we were in highschool shop class . I’ll never forget that.
As a kid I had a mishap with the jointer [way to small of piece to be jointing] an it barely just nicked my finger.(enough to bleed for 10 minutes while the woodshop teacher schooled me).never knew it till years later that I got extremely lucky I didn’t loose my whole tip an down to the bone..boy I’m glad I was quick in my younger days..
My dad had a tip of his finger taken off in a jointer. Weird thing was a few years later you couldn't even tell he was missing the tip, like it grew back. Moral of the story, if you're gonna do it make sure it's "just the tip".
When I was young we had a blind guy in our school. He did wood working in shop class. The teacher had taken the time and taught him. You would also see him and his family riding their bikes through town. They had a card in the spokes. And he was able to follow this parent. With the other one and his sister behind him. Worked at a leading kitchen manufacturer for years. The table saw took the most fingers. My friend spinal shapered his to the knuckles. I have had some close calls the main saw I used was a pistorious. It’s taken some mostly when cleaning the machine. One guy when on the ground cleaning it but his hand over where the blade pops out. Then bumped the knee pad button some or on foot pedals. But the blade was still spinning even though it was off. Cut through one and got stuck in another.
Build a router sled for small applications! Will save you a lot of thinking with custom piece's in the future! I definitely do sketchy shit myself, but knowing exactly what can go wrong and how to avoid it is key beforehand
No joke, my brother lost the tips of two of his fingers using one of these. Never forget I was outside playing with the dog and my brother came out the garage just holding his hand in the air and blood constantly dripping from both fingers.
When anyone talks about a cutting, slicing, or any other knife/saw injury, I think of our dear friend who tried to kick loose a feed grinder the kind you pull behind a tractor to feed cows or whatever.. he kicked the stuck grinder blades and then he fell in, all the way thru - his boss found the unmanned tracts still running and had to find him at the other end of the feed shoot. His wife was graduating college that day and she wondered why he didn’t show up w the rest of his family.. you can imagine the rest. So, in his memory, PLEASE don’t take safety for granted. It may be fine 100 times, but it’s that one time you don’t that matters.
Yeah worked with a guy who lost 3 fingers on 3 separate occasions on a planer…. They were all his fault but it had me respect the hell out using that machine
I remember in the wood shop in high school I had just finished using one of these. The next person tried to use it for a piece of wood that was far too small for it and she wound up shredding the tips of two of her fingers off. That was the most blood I have seen coming out of someone.
I learned in High school woodshop class NOT TO, put short pieces through the wood jointer, period. I tried, and it put a dent in the wall, about 25 feet away. it shot out from under my hand in an instant, but luckily I wasn't caught in the cutting area. I at least used push blocks.
