I don't really think any of your arguments matter. Jane doe is super cool and speedy, that's all that matters so I'mma try and nab them if I can. The others don't interest me gameplay wise.
I'm probably not going to get any of these. They are limited time right? I'm saving my master tapes but i am sure i will get f'd over by RNG. Master tapes are kind of hard to get.
Afaik, according to leaks sub There is no Ether character again till atleast 1.4. That's pretty important cases for Zhu yuan value. In other hand Ellen with Miyabi coming will definetly feel little bit rough. And imo Qingyi will probably the most universal out of every Limited character that have been shown. You always need Stun character for normal setup (dps+Stun+Support). Except you play anomaly setup. Zhu+Qingyi+Nicole should be strongest teams or atleast on par because that is the most expensive teams who work perfectly (2 limited)
Zhu Yuan can be paired with any Support character for her Core Skill as it's "Support or Faction", not "Attribute (Ether) or Faction" like all the other characters. Makes it possible to do things like Lucy + Koleda, Lucy + Ben, Rina + Grace, Rina + Anby or even Rina + Lycaon with her.
@@jacobseil7996yeah ain't no way you can't use her when she is currently the only good ether support atm and a very good one at that especially for crowd control and pretty good damage. She definitely helped me a lot when I still don't even have a proper DPS yet.
True but nicole is the best ether support and faster at giving assist attack than the other support. Rina just feels clunky and slow to play, soukaku’s spin takes too long, lucy without m2 takes too long for the homerun to hit.
I don't know why you didn't mention this given that you're perfectly fine with sharing leaks, but Seth (the A-rank Electric Defender releasing in 1.1) is perfect for Jane Doe. His whole kit has synergy with Anomaly characters, making for an amazing supporting character in Disorder teams. You're likely going to end up picking him up on Jane's banner, so the two best teams for Jane as a DPS would either be Mono-PubSec (Jane, Qingyi, Seth) or Double Anomaly (Jane, Grace, Seth). In regards to Jane as a more supporting role in teams, Seth's value will greatly decrease. But regardless, he's worth considering if you intend to use Jane as a DPS.
this is propably the 1st game that i dont care so much about how much dmg a unit does but i really care about how the unit "plays"!i really love the battle gameplay on this game,even tho its short af,and i kinda like the "tv gimmic" they have except the damn "dark"/lights off parts they have in some missions,i str8 up h8 those parts to the point of thinking of quiting....it ballances out with how dope the battle is tho. zhu yuan seamed similar to grace to me till i played as her in ch2(or 3,idr) in story mode,she s really fun to play with
I want to pointed out... Since you mentioned QingYi's value crossed path with Anby (Both are Electric-Stunner) Jane Doe being Physical-Anomaly, also crosses path with Piper's being Physical-Anomaly Piper shared the same faction as Lucy (Fire-Support) that could also buff ATK up So if you already have Piper builded up, Jane Doe priority become slightly lower... Because Piper already cover the Physical-Anomaly Except of course if you want her
Jane's value does not become lower even if you have Piper. Assuming her passive remains the same, she'll essentially be the core of almost every single anomaly team moving forward. Ideally you want 2 anomaly characters, one phys and one from other element so you can get the best of both assault and disorder, Jane pairs with every single anomaly character they release in the future, meanwhile Piper only really has one option which is the calydon fire anomaly girl
Based on how they are releasing characters, I think my plan is to save till at least 1.2. This should mean I will have enough Chromes to grab 2 chars and a W-engine when another faction is being fleshed out: Section 6, Sons, or even V Idol or whatever else they come up with.
If your f2p I suggest skipping on getting W engines until you build up your character roster More but it is your currency in the end so you can do what you want
@@shadowreap3r6 If this was like Genshin or Honkai Star Rail, I would agree. But based on how W-Engines are looking, it looks like Hoyo might be leaning towards HI3 where the signature is an important part of the kit.
That happend to me too but reverse I got 3 S ranks that don't work together well at all. You have 1.5/3 of three separate teams there. Jane Doe and Qingyi is what I'm pulling for a Nekomata Team. Qingyi and RIna would be good for a future Electro dps or a dps that wants both stun and disorder. And Lycaon Soukaku are the meta pick for Ellen. If you still have the 300 pull selector I would use that for Lycaon that team sounds busted and will carry you well past end game. I don't think you would ever have to replace that team unless they make a more broken S rank ice support that does Soukaku's job faster.
I think its still possible to get her if you grind, however I dont know if you put in the time already or not. The game offers a lot of rewards at the moment and Im sitting at 44 master tapes right now. I dont know if Ill reach the required amount but Its worth a try. Idk if u know but when you pull a standard S on a limited banner the next S you pull will be the character featured on the banner, so Elllen.
I held out spending my currency from pulling on Ellen's banner until I saw more people play her and give their verdict. Then I got to try out Zhu Yuan on the main story quest and omg I fell in love with her playstyle. She may not have the highest dps potential due to a lack of Ether synergies but, if played right, you could pull off a no hit run with her, even if she's not equipped with anything. Her agility, attack animations, and dodge mechanics make her almost impossible to hit... except maybe for late boss situations where the entire screen gets nuked and you have to be forced to spam your dodge charges.
Skipping 1.1 entirely and pulling on Zhu Yuan The 1.1 characters are an electric stunner and a physical anomaly But we already get Anby and Piper as 4 stars who are both amazing already
I didn’t get Ellen from her banner 50/50 but honestly Zhu yuan seems awesome to play so I’ll try to get her Not really sure if I need the other two since I’ve got Anby and Piper who can do their roles fine
I honestly do not understand his suggestion of that team. It has terrible synergy. 2/3 team passives and double status build? The only damage you'll be doing with two sub dps's and a support is the disorder procs. For high efficiency you want 3/3 with a dps, their status support and a multiplier support. So for 3/3 either a mono team, a canon team or, half n half 2 canon 2 element. Honestly I'm pulling for Jane doe for Nekomata. they're both physical so that's 2/3 then either another cunning hare or one of the police group. Preferably a stun character. So Nekomata gets increased damage against enemies that have assault proc'd and stunned enemies. So Nekomata, Jane Doe/Piper, Qingyi/Anby. Rina is good on any team but as of right now you really want a mono Grace Rina Anton team. Rina and Grace buff Electric damage and status and penetration by a lot. Anton there is the weak link as an A rank but there are cheese tactics with him that have pushed the highest level content in the game 20 levels below the recommended level.
@@dragonwazI assume it likes party with Grace Lucy/Rina Piper, i usually use this team. Just go for shock proc with grace then got the buff from lucy and last attack with Piper while enemy shocked. Its quite fun and easy to play imo. Jane doe seems like replace for Piper. If u use Rina it easy to proc shock and doing physical anomaly + disorder. cmiiw
@@dragonwaz The whole point is the massive disorder procs you're gonna be doing bruh, terrible synergy? Get outta here. Jane and Nekomata are not gonna work together, Jane's additional ability doesnt work based on elements, you either need an anomaly or another pubsec member, not to mention she'll be fighting nekomata for field time. Her actual core passive won’t activate with Nekomata and double Phys has zero synergy as Jane's other passive requires a DoT(Shock for example) to be on the target. Jane is literally all about disorder comps. Maybe read her kit and you'll understand that Grace and Rina/Seth will be her best team. 3/3 passives btw, just say you suck at playing disorder teams.
@Shunazo417 Love how everyone tries to make the point that "they'll be fighting for field time" when Nekomata has a 6 second damage window and aside from that ideally wants to be attacking stunned units for max dps. One of her cons is literally how small of a window she gets high dps compared to characters like Ellen. Really do not understand why you think "double physical has zero synergy" every single team wants to be either mono element, mono faction or double element and double faction. Nekomata's kit herself wants stunned enemies who have assault proc'd. It takes a lot to proc assault without an anomaly character. Let alone proc stun and assault as close together to get a full 6 second damage window on Nekomata. I will say, now that her kit is actually out to see, that yes, Jane Doe's kit is based on anomaly teams. She'd still work with Neko, just not as synergistic on her team as I had hoped a physical anomaly character's kit would have been. Rina still wouldn't fit that team though. Your suggestion of Seth makes more sense. It'd be Seth or Qingyi for that team. I love the look of Seth's kit and that anomaly proficiency on shielded swap in looks good, but the jury is still out on Tank characters in this game and it is really hard to top the %damage multiplier that stun characters give to stunned enemies.
@@dragonwaz I wouldnt say tanks suck, ben is awesome and im sure seth will be too, but rina's Passive and Pen ratio sharing are nothing to scoff at either, we'll have to wait until calcs are out to figure out who's better In other news, I dont know where jane's passive would be left inactive. Core Passive: Insight *Flinch is a status that increases daze taken by enemies by 10%, lasting for 10s.* When Jane deals damage to an enemy, inflicts [Gnaw] state, lasting for 10s. When *ANY* squad member triggers [Assault] and inflicts [Flinch] on an enemy with the [Gnaw] state, [Flinch] state increases by 5s and [Assault] has a chance to be a CRIT hit, with a base CRIT RATE of 40%, and CRIT DMG of 50%. Every point of Anomaly Proficiency increases the CRIT RATE of this attack by 0.16%. Jane can just proc this herself, it's meant for her since anomaly proficiency will increase assault's crit rate. Where's the problem? If you're talking about her additional ability, again, it'll be active. Additional Ability: Weak point When another character in your squad is an [Anomaly] or under the same Faction: Jane gains 20% Physical Anomaly Buildup Rate. When an enemy is under an [Anomaly] state, Jane deals an additional 15% DMG to it, also increasing the accumulated Physical Anomaly Buildup by 15% 20%. On another note, I did not know about nekomata having a 6 second damage window, that's actually pretty fitting for how fast she is, i suppose you'll treat Jane as some sort of stunner in that regard, no?
Imo its an action game you can make up for a weak unit with enough skill and it doesnt seem to be so hard that I need to chase meta I will just pull for the characters I like the look and feel of.
i would also expect a bangboo for the pd characters at some point. thats something to keep in mind. I find the bangboo specific to factions hold a bit more value than general ice, electric etc. hold on to your boopons unless theres one you really want because these are fairly difficult to get. i think the stat stick bangboos are kinda lacking. imo
Now this seems like coping but, I highly suggest Zhu Yuan being the best pick because there's no more ether unit for some time, her dmg output rn maybe not the highest but when qingyi arrives, she will greatly improve due to 60% additional stun dmg, better with signature and/or m1. Then either wait for S rank support or wait for Ether anomaly because Ether anomaly while not huge but has huge total% than other anomalies other than shock(yes it's 10sec that makes it high) but I'm taoking about ether and shock disorder that doesn't need that amount of time but triggering disorder quickly as possible
I’m hoping to get zhu yuan but I got c1 Ellen in the process and c6 sokaku (I’m f2p btw took me awhile to get the pulls 😅) so fingers crossed to get zhu yuan so I can have two teams
as of right now miyabi is the only character i want so ill be saving for her which is not hard at all i played genshin since day 1 and didn't summon until ayaka came out
7:39 As a whale, yes this is possible. More so the role play aspect of having all 4 of them of the same faction just feels good. However I'm not going for them as I have other gacha games at the moment. My priorities are the Sons of Calydon, Virtual Idols, more members of the Victorian House Keeping (vampire guy).
I'm definitely pulling for Zhu Yuan, skipping Qingyi even though I want her too and preparing for Jane Doe. I think I'm 16 wishes away from the guarantee. I'm trying to get Zhu Yuan's engine as well. If I hadn't put so much into Anby and Koleda already, she's an easy skip for now.
For me i will go for Zhu yuan, for shiyu defense, elemental varieties is quite important for a smooth clearing experience. We most likely do not need QingYi because everyone have Anby. If you have Piper, you ptobably don't need Jane Doe. For me personally, I would also want Jane Doe because she is so thicc!
I don't know, I feel like you would probably not be skipping Zhu Yuan if you wanted to roll for Qingyi down the line too, they might have great synergy. Jane Doe is probably the better option to save for if you're skipping Zhu Yuan since I think she seems more unique and she'll have her own niche unlike Qingyi, who is probably just gonna be Anby 2.0 and good stunner unit number 4
Ngl I’m still pulling for Miyabi even though I got both Ellen and her weapon. (F the meta, this will be the only Hoyo game I pull based off of what I like and not the meta)
Going for Zhu Yuan and Qingyi then saving for Section 6 🙏 I’m hoping Yanagi is an electric main dps and harumasa is an electric support. Them with Qingyi would be perfect.
I’m wondering if I should just suck it up and pull Ellen since I have C6 sokaku. I got koleda and not lycoan but I could pick up lycoan with my guarantee pick at 300 pulls
yah right, my blood is red I picked Zhu Yuan and her weapon, oh sweet crit stats lol, you’re right the ice team is indeed better. But Zhu has waifu power. I’ve never seen a hotter cartoon lol
I don't think you should skip Zhu Yuan, there aren't many ether characters right now and having two makes it easier to deal with enemies that are weak to ether.
I'm going to save for Qingyi as I just really like her as a character, might pull until 50/50 for Zhu Yuan but if I lose close to soft pity I'll just save the rest for Qingyi.
Probably just gonna pull for Zhu Yuan honestly. I waited too long for a character that I liked on Honkai which every youtuber was calling OP but by the time it released I wasn't interested in the game anymore and started playing other stuff lol not gonna make the same mistake again. Its better to get a character that you find fun now rather than not enjoying the current game, saving up for "meta" characters and dropping the game by the time the banner comes out.
Skipping zhu yuan makes no sense. She is so far the only ether dps, so regardless if you have ellen or not, you will want zhu yuan for the sake lf missions that require ether. She is a must have no matter what.
Wanted Nekomata and got Lycaon and Koleda and the Big booby maid. I just want the cat. Lycaon has been a blessing though because I knew I wanted Ellen. So it worked out for him, but the other two I can't say so. Qingyi is almost a must pull but Jane for sure is a must..
I'm still a bit conflicted i really want Zhu yuan since i got ellen on my first 5 pulls, but i also kind of want jane doe since i kind of like the dot team from star rail and loved the anomaly gameplay with grace.
I somehow got both grace and rina (lost 50/50 w ellen) so i guess ill be going for Jane, mono electric is decent so far but I just need to make one more team for endgame 😭
