Skoda Octavia RS iV: 900 km range. Real-Life test. Plug-In Hybrid total (combined) range :: 1001cars 

Thank you! :)

That's pretty impressive. However this is about a long distance test in a PHEV which carries a lot of weight with its batteries to get the 50km daily commute on full electric. So this comparison is just as unfair as comparing yours with a 20 year old VW Lupo 3L which would do 3l/100km as well, and cost 1000 eur to buy.

I think Audi and Mercedes did diesel hybrids they're super expensive and didn't sell well.

@@Shithappenswhenu yes because hybrids used to be a lot more expensive. These days would be cheaper and even more efficient.

Watch the movie carefully :) Mostly I had more than 90 km/h outside of the cities and also I had more than 120 km/h.

Look at 29:20 for example :) There was a highway. I understand that in many other countries there is more highway roads, this is why I also checked fuel consumption in such conditions. Link to the movie is in the end of the movie: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-P653B7uPGDM.html

@@1001cars Thanks for your prompt answer, I already noticed the few meters driven on the highway ;-). And do not worry about, I precisely follow all your videos from the beginning to the end!

Great to hear it! :) Thank you :) As I said I understand that this is only one of possible scenario of such trip. The movie I sent to you shows what is the fuel consumption at higher speed. So, for example, if 80% of such trip will be on 120 km/h roads the total range would be around 650 km.

You missed Octavia to Superb :) We have similar discussions in Poland, instead off having 16 000 charging stations :) I don't want to say what I prefer, what I would choose if I had to buy a car for a city and long trips at the same time. I see two groups of people, for one of them Plug-In Hybrid is a great car, for second definitely not. Both of them want to drive longer trips more than 2/3 times a year, but definitely not day-to-day. It is like one per month driving to his/her family which is far away from his/her home. Second group: has enough space to keep two cars, they have more money to maintain two cars (taxes, insurances etc.), they use electric car for daily driving and "diesel" car for long trips. Pros: you always have two cars, both of these cars are really efficiency (in specified conditions) Cons: if you want to have two cars in a similar price to Plug-In Hybrid car, the electric one has to be very cheap, without much space for passengers, without newest safety and driver assistant systems etc. It is just city electric car. First group: in reality they don't buy Plug-In Hybrid car to save money (my opinion), they buy such car to make every daily trip to the office more comfortable (because of the electric mode). Why? Because they bought the car with all of newest systems, in high/highest trim, this is not a small B/C car it is the bigger/more spacious car. Because such electric car is even more expensive. And - maybe the most important argument - they have POSSIBILITY to make 300/400/500/600 km trip every day without looking for a charging station, or even thinking about it. Also I think, many times the reason is to buy just stronger (more powerful) car without buying big V6/V8 engines (more problematic). You cannot forget about it when you compare Octavia RS iV with Corolla Hybrid. Performance is much better with Skoda. I don't want to say that Plug-In Hybrid cars are better or not. I just want to say I understand people who are interested in such cars. In reality, I think, most of us (let's say 50-70%) can be in the third group: one electric car are totally enough for us (daily driving) and when we want to make a longer trip, we have so many possibilities to rent a bigger car with diesel engine. In reality it is the cheapest way to live. But we have to remember: not everyone want to drive the car which is unknown for a driver, you don't know condition of components, and you have to take so many things from your private car and put them to the rented one to feel comfortable during the trip. Unfortunately you can forget about them later on... and this is the problem. So many of us prefer to pay more for only their car. And this "only their" can be plug-in.

@@1001cars Yeah you´re right. Buying an Ev right now isn´t the best choise for everyone yet. But as with smartphones i´m sure we´ll all adapt to that and be grateful for it.

For me, this RS iV was the perfect car. My daily driving is around 40-60km and i can do all of them purely in e-mode. No petrol needed. I also have this summer cottage 290km up north, where i have no electricity at all. I go there twice a month. So it depends on your personal needs do you need a plug in or full electric. For me right now, the plug in is the best option. And the car is great! Good comfort, good power and fun to drive with only combined consumption of 2.1l/100km after 4000km

Eerik Lindström Are you from Sweden ? Okay yeah that makes sense . Upper Sweden isn’t that populated thus finding charging stations is impossible

@@Abu-Talha-Al-Kurdi Im from Finland and live near Helsinki, but still, there is very little charging stations. There will be much more in few years luckily.

Thank you! :) Unfortunately I cannot say how many km were recovered, on-board computer does not inform about it :( It is also impossible to count it manually :(

@@1001cars thanks for the quick response. ok, I thought that the on-board computer indicated the km covered in electric only, and so, by removing the km traveled by multiplying the battery capacity by the average consumption of kWh, one could understand how many more km were covered by recovery. thanks, I always follow your videos with a lot of interest.

Think about such example: you drive a car with start-stop system, ok? The combustion engine turns off every time when you stop the car. You are driving in a city, classic situation: drive - stop on the light - drive - stop on the light. Finally, during the 30 minutes of the trip you drove let's say 15 km, but the combustion engine was turned off for 8 minutes. What distance you drove with combustion engine off?

Also: 400 km x 4,6% = 18,4 km

I had Falken tyres at with 225/40 R19 size

The idea of plug-in is to drive every day electric only, and only when you need to go outside the city to consume gasoline

Not exactly :) First: look at electric range test of this car: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YDfznM3Gj4w.html you have over 60 km electric range with this car. Second thing: WLTP homologation allows to start the test with fully charged batteries, so this is why you see small consumption numbers. Look at this movie: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jQY-dOqgUPI.html it will help you understand how does it work.

Here you will find the answer :) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jQY-dOqgUPI.html

What kind of speed would you expect from driving on roads with speed limit 90 km/h and in cities?

4,6 l/100 km

Here you have the electric range test of Octavia RS iV: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YDfznM3Gj4w.html

Yes, it tries to keep around 50% of the battery

@@1001cars I suggest another test hahah, what happens with the battery and with the range when driving in eco, normal or sport mode? ;)

immer süß wenn der deutsche blockwart den pol*ken konstuktive lebenstipps gibt :D

@@didigul7864 Kein Blockwart, nur Tip vom Fahrtraining verinnerlicht. Wieviele Fahrtrainings haben Sie schon gemacht?

@@konradklein5530 die beste schulung ist die realität also zu schauen wie es die anderen machen. polcken sind schon ein ganz gutes vorbild, spaghettis fahren meiner meinung nach noch entspannter. heuer plane ich noch zu schauen wie es die muränen machen. langfristig plane ich auch eine fahrt nach russland weil die vielen straßenaufnahmen im internet auch vielversprechend aussehen

@@didigul7864 "die beste schulung ist die realität also zu schauen wie es die anderen machen", das klingt ein bisschen nach: Scheiße muss gut sein, Millionen Fliegen können nicht irren :-)

70 km (fuel) and 0 km (electric)

It depends on the driving style and driving mode. For example in sport+hybrid mode computer tries to keep 50% SOC. If you drive carefully computer will keep 1/2%. Of course, different behavior will be when you set the destination in the navigation system.

@@1001cars But if I dont touch the driving mode but just drive? It defaults to electric, but for how long and with what logic? There is no explanation for this online. Makes planning difficult.

@@latuman so as I wrote: electric mode and normal mode is the default setting. For how long? You have info in this movie and in other movies linked in the description. What kind of info do you need?

@@1001cars at what percentage does hybrid kick in? After hybrid kicks in, in what capacity is the battery used and charged or is it at all? It seems very wasteful to just let it be on e-mode in highway speeds when ICE would be more economical

@@latuman If you use e-mode the hybrid mode turns on at ~1/0%. I am not sure about your 2nd question, but there is net and gross capacity. When I use "0/1% SOC" I am talking about net capacity. this is how electric mode works: it allows you to drive in electric only mode even if it is wasteful overall.

Very interesting problem is not the physics but what you wrote. I spent more than 7 hours (not 1 hour) in electric mode. Who should came back to school?

In a city you should use electric mode, on highway (at ~140 km/h) you will use fuel only. So after 10 km in a city you will loose 10 km range (around 17-18% of total usable capacity). On highway at 140 km/h you will use 8,1 l/100 km, so the total average of fuel consumption will be: 8.1 l/100 km on 190 km distance will be 15,4 l in total 15,4 in total on 200 km distance means 7,7 l/100 km and this is the consumption you will see on the computer after such trip. Whole calculations you can observe here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jQY-dOqgUPI.html

@@1001cars ive done the calculation by myself. I bought the car recently, and havent tried it on highway (covid restrictions)I am interested how long will the battery last in combination with combustion engine, and will it affect the total consumption.

Based on your answer..how the hell did you manage to get that amazing 4.6l/100km on a 900km trip?! You do have a "fairy foot"! :D It's almost unbelievable that the consumption has stabilized on that mark far beyond the half of the journey...

Yes, you can charge this car from a regular home socket. Full charge will take around 5-6 hours

@@1001cars thanks for the info it is useful

Also a question, when running on regular motorway travel, could a fully charged battery capable to keep the car running in all-the-time hybrid mode and provide fuel saving within the travel distance of 1 gasoline tank (i.e. around 300mi)?

because from you video , the battery running in hybrid mode draw out already after ~ 90mile. I have some regular long journey trip on motorway (~300 mile), thinking if this hybrid battery could help me save fuel through the whole journey or not

@@YakHongYung You can use battery save mode, which will keep you battery electricity to for example last part of the trip which is in a city. Is it sth. what you were looking for?

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1001cars Thanks :)

1001cars Oh wait I think I’ve mistaken, I mean the music following 31:30 after the song you mentioned ends . You have the name of this one too ?

Audio Hertz - The Devil-s Piano ?

@@1001cars Nah, listen closely from 31:00-32:30

it has petrol engine with fuel tank capacity of 41litres?

My passat B8 2.0 tdi bmt 190 ps goes in the city 1070 km each time. 65 l tank

@@JohnMacTavishCZ yep, 41 L, i also own normal octavia iV, never tried like this, but the battery lasts 54 km cca 48-58, depends on driving style. Since i bought it i have never filled up the gasoline, and now has 782 km:)

So, in your opinion real life driving is on highway, but outside of the highway is not a real life driving, right? So, ~70% of drivers they do not "real life driving". The second thing: in the end of this video I put the link into REAL LIFE highway driving, but somehow you avoided it. Can you tell me why?

@@1001cars In real life all drivers would rather save time and use the motorway insted when it is possible. I have seen all your videos about Superb iV, and Octavia iV many times and there is no information about driving this car with full baterry on motorway in hybrid mode. Im finding your work wery usefull but I miss this kind of info. Im big fan of EV vehicles and it great to see that those PHEV can do 60 km on a single charge, but as i say I miss more situations from real sceranio of (me) using this vehicle becouse Im now trying to decide betwen Enyaq and PHEV Superb.

1. What if there was no highway? What is highway? 110 km/h, 120 km/h, 130 km/h or 140 km/h? You did not point the "real life" speed to make sure that this is "real life driving", and as all of us know, choosing between 120 and 140 km/h will change everything. 2. I am not sure if you really watched my videos about these cars. If you did not found the info about consumption with the charged battery. 3. How could I guess what is YOUR real life scenario when you did not show it? Do you know that my "real life driving" will be different comparing with yours?

@@1001cars 1. Yes, for sure. Difference between 130 kmh and 120 kmh is really big. Im riding 120 and I save about a 1 liter of diesel on my Superb 2.0 Tdi from 130 kmh. 2. Trust me, I saw them all and I know that there are a lot of information but there is no info about riding this cars in hybrid mode with charged battery. 3. I dont want from you to guess my real scenario, It would be imposible for sure. I dont mean it bad. I simply want to say that your videos are great but there is no information about riding in hybrid mode on a motorway (120 to 130 km) with charged battery. That is all.

@@mraki1980 1. So, still I don't know what is "highway" in your definition. 2. Unfortunately: there is an info about driving (and consumption) with charged battery in hybrid mode. 3. This is the thing: you did not write what is "highway driving", you did not write what is your scenario (in details), you do not understand how PHEV car works and this is why you THINK that there is no info about driving with charged battery.

Really? I had over 60 km/h on 50 limit and the truck overtook me also on zebra crossing and you say that I should drive faster right?

@@1001cars I wish you could have drive half of the trip on autobahn 😍

Czy Twoja Astra 1.4 Turbo ma 245 KM? :)

@@1001cars nie, ale w tym tescie spalania nie byly chyba potrzebne ;)

Jak najbardziej tak :) Przynajmniej kilka razy zostało użyte dużo mocy. Ale nawet jeśli, cały czas jeździsz samochodem, który ma tyle mocy, choć jej nie wykorzystujesz, to z czymś się to wiąże - choćby przykład z silników o dużej pojemności. Oczywiste jest to, że Octavia z 1.5 eTSI zrobi nawet lepszy wynik i nawet zajedzie dalej (większy bak), ale znowu: takie auto nie ma 245 KM

@@1001cars a pojawi sie na kanale zwykla octavia rs? w sensie ta z dwulitrowym silnikiem benzynowym, bo taka mi po glowie chodzi ;)

Myślę, że tak :)

No, I had more than 100 km/h :) This was such route, without highways. I think, also in your country, it is possible that from A to B you can get using country and city roads only. Consumption at highway speed you could find in the end of this video. Did you watch whole video? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jQY-dOqgUPI.html

Thank you! :) Look at 29:20 for example :) I understand that in many other countries there is more highway roads, this is why I also checked fuel consumption in such conditions. Link to the movie is in the end of the movie: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-P653B7uPGDM.html I checked Electric range: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YDfznM3Gj4w.html

@@1001cars Yes!! Very interesting both videos! About Electric range you did starting in Electric mode until the battery died. I was asking in THIS video because you started durectly in hybrid. When the battery was empty? After 150km? After 200km? The only data you show is after finishing the first half, 400km, and battery range was 1km so in that moment it was dead. But when did it die, 150, 200km?

No, you did not watch carefully :) We are coming back to previous discussion. See what you have at 5:39 and try to make an answer for your question :) Why you think that I showed data only after first half of the trip? For almost 100% of the trip you have all of data on the movie!

@@1001cars Understood! Battery symbol to recharge appears after 115km. The good point is that all the rest of the trip you drove in hybrid using the non usable battery part and the regeneration, so you still had the 245CV available and final consumption was great. Other conclusion, regeneration is not enough to charge the battery when driving, because you ended with 0km electric range (no recharge from 115 to 900).

Answer for last your "question": you are not right. Regeneration is enough to charge the battery much more than 0 km, during the driving. See electric range for example at: 13:25 and later on... and 14:45. I could make it better but I did not want to.

After ~500 km drive I felt really good :) Seats are comfortable.

@@1001cars Thank you for the answer. My grandfather had a gen 2 Octavia which was amazing, and now has a gen 3 which is honestly worse then the old model, which is why i was curious if they did better this time around. Would you say it's worth the price though? It would be around 30k€ in my country after state discount.

Niezłe wyniki spalania osiągasz Wersja PHEV jest jednak dużo cięższa, ma więcej mocy a jednak zużywa mniej benzyny. Hybrydy chyba wyprą samochody spalinowe. Motoryzacja zmieni się na naszych oczach. Pozdrawiam

I am going to show Matrix LED test in Octavia, but generally: no, I did not have such problems. Maybe try to explain it with more details.

39.5 l (you have this info on the movie)

not exactly. Fuel consumption without electricity at 90 km/h is 5,1 l/100 km, at 120 km/h it is: 6,6 l/100 km

@@1001cars so according to your numbers and the fuel tank of the RS phev, driving at highway speeds (which most people do) = a range of 550-600 km ( on fuel alone)....i'm guessing that's with an empty car, no air conditioning and a limited number of overtakes. Also, I figure that when you're going at motorway speeds, the overall hybrid system interferes less due to the speed, acceleration, weight, wind, etc. Your test is good, no arguments there, but if we're going to talk about real life conditions, I would love to see 2 passengers (or the equivalent in weight) + AC + a half loaded trunk and constant real life speeds of 100-130 or a bit more during overtakes. I'm bringing this up because from an overall perspective, the petrol only version seems to be better. It would also be more reliable on the long run given the bigger engine and lower number of electronic parts for which VAG is not known to be great on reliability.

@@slayer0390 Next time please ask or just read BEFORE writing sth. I was not alone in the car. AC was ON, boot was not empty (I had ~50-100 kg inside it). I was driving as fast as it was possible (allowed) on these roads. No, not most people drives at highway (120 km/h or more) speeds. More overtaking? Where? Can you show me where could I do it without braking the law?