In part 1 of this 2 part video, Mark takes a walk around this Cessna Skywatcher. #pilot #cessna #skycatcher #flying #aircraft #airplane @skywagonuniversity5023
The trimtab is this way because the boundarylayer is quite thick at that location. So with this notch the trimtab has to be moved less to have the same effect. This causes less stress on the trimbtab/cables and allows for the smallest trimtab. During cruise the notch is smaller than the boundarylayer at that point so it practically does not increase drag. The new Diamonds including the DA50RG has it also, so also for fast cruisers it's not a drag penalty worthwhile. If it does not have this notch, the trimtab would be larger increasing weight and more interference drag, so the little bit more induced drag is really nothing.
@@skywagonuniversity5023 In auto racing it’s called a Gurney Flap. Dan Gurney invented it (or at least used it for the first time in racing) to increase the downforce effectiveness of a rear wing. I would imagine the same effect is realized with a trim tab, i.e. small tab with the increased effectiveness of a larger tab without a major increase in parasitic or induced drag. Aerodynamics are a voodoo art (see propeller design and “I don’t know what I don’t know” as an example).
Yes like how a ballbus bow on a ship adds to the hull but makes it better This reminds me of the Tesla Catamaran by Tech Ingredients in the build he explains how the shape of the hull encoureges the performance.@@mannypuerta5086
Thanks for continuing with one-part videos. If circumstances allow for an eventful, longer flight an occasional two-part feature makes perfect sense, though. Best of both worlds.
Excellent Mark, this works out perfectly. I was exhausted crunching the basics of aircraft maintenance watching Mike Busch - Savvy Aviation, before this came up. Nice!
I love this airplane! I even went back to KICT to get checked out at Yingling Aircraft. This was before they started to arrive around the USA. One of the ones that I was flying at KSNA had the right window come open in flight. It was truly a mangled mess!
I spent about 800 hours instructing in these. The flight school I worked for has the largest fleet of them. I didn't enjoy them as much as the 172s but they were cheaper than the 172's so the students liked the price. they are faster and more comfortable than a 150 and handle very well. Light on the controls and easy to land. you want to triple check those door latches on takeoff!!! its an expensive mistake when they open inflight!
I wouldn't mind one of these, and your walk-around only made it more so. I keep hoping they'll get a little cheaper. You didn't mention it, but I flew in one with the doors removed. Perfect for a hot day. Thanks for another excellent video.
Cool airplane. I like the "militarized" cabin with no plastic. Would have been nicer if they'd just used a lighter shade of paint inside to make the cabin feel brighter. Also, it really should have come with a Rotax 912S 100hp to allow more useful load and savings on fuel running mogas. Then, it would have been more popular with the schools as a C152 replacement.
Back then, most still raised their eyebrows with the mention of Rotax. They were not quite as accepted back then as they are today. I mean look at the warning labels that still come on/with the Rotax 912/914 engines. Reading them would make one think they shouldn't be mounted to the firewall of a aircraft!!!! Cessna wouldn't have touched that with a ten foot pole.Their lawyers wouldn't have allowed it!!!!
Great review and flight test on your other segment Mark. I really enjoy the way you do these reviews and the information you provide is terrific. I used to own a Jabiru 230, made in Queensland Australia, love to hear a review of yours on one if you haven’t already. Biggest problem was the engine overheating/unreliable but the airframe itself in my opinion was quite good. Engine was a Jabiru made 6 cylinder 3300cc, 120hp. The last straw for me was when the leak down test failed due to all 6 cylinders being glazed up. I remember some company invented water cooled heads for them which I thought was a good idea, don’t know how successful they were. The Jabiru 160 had shorter wings and the same engine minus 2 cylinders 2200cc, 80hp. I sold it and bought a 182Q and got my PPL after that.
@@skywagonuniversity5023 it increases the effectiveness of the control surface essentially making it act like a larger control surface. If I remember correctly the size of the Gurney tab is proportional to the cord of the wing.
Reduces control dead zone and increases response. There has been some recent discussion on the feature with regard to the Vans RV15 ongoing development.
mark THE SPLIT ON THE TRIM TAB FOR THE CESSNA SKYCATCHER ALLOWS THE AIRPLANE TOO STAY TRIMED STABLE IN FLIGHT BETTER THAN A CONVENTIONAL TRIM TAB. I AM AN A&p mechanic so i know this and i flew this airplane some time ago and its a great airplane too fly. mark from san francisco. i am based at hmb. great airplane reveiws mark.
One of my favorite training aircraft I’ve flown. So many people like to poo poo these without even flying them, they don’t know what they are missing out on!
Every day is s school day Mark. You taught me a lot about these little 'planes, reminded me of one or two things too. After having spent a fair amount of time in C150/C152's and a few hours in FW 3A microlights, I really like the look of this little Cessna.😊👍👍✌️ Good idea re the format too👍✌️😊💜
People forget these things (airframes) were "Built in China." That was quite controversial at the time. They were designed and assembled in the States.
People complained about a new, certified aircraft at $149k???? Now many SLSA aircraft, nothing special mind you, are $200-$300k. Cessna was too early. This aircraft with a Rotax 100hp would be a real performer. Cessna wrecked some test flying with poor spin characteristics so the rudder was made bigger the single strake made larger. The wings needed strengthening. The end result was a highly developed very nice aircraft. At $149k it was a steal.
My new favorite "Markism" - Ohtoothinium.... BWAHAHAHAHAA!!!! Ranks right up there with my other favorite, "You don't want to try and go to Aspen in August with your Anvils."
I can think of a few other 2-place high-wing LSA aircraft that already are or can be equipped with dual ram horn yokes, doors of a more “conventional” nature, a centrally T-handle throttle quadrant and a few other features … that Textron-Cessna could or should have utilized, instead of the program they used and was destined to fail. Mark, if I’m designing a GA aircraft for both flight training schools/flight training in general and for personal use … some of the key selling features that would be in my design … optional dual side stick controls/Airbus or dual yokes/Boeing. In short … think both mental memory or familiarization and muscle memory. Hope all that makes sense.
O-200 under the cowling. 4+ lires to produce c100 hp. A Rotax is 1.2 for anything from 80 to 115 hp depending on version. The O-200 is 1930s tech about time the GA world progressed. One of the things that stopped it being more successful is in my opinion the idiosyncratic stick. Had they installed a conventional yoke or stick it would have sold better. I always feel that style of nosewheel leg is too delicate to be relied upon. The majority if wrecks I've seen with that style have collapsed it. That fuel gauge is one of the best features of the aircraft.
the stokes are very much enjoyed by their owners, theres no downside to them. considering the abundance of nose wheel assemblies available on Ebay I would say they hold up pretty good
Wow, I thought 162’s didn’t have cabin heat, the fact that they also have svt and autopilot I might actually get one instead of an older 150, especially cause they’re the same price if not the 162 is cheaper now on most sites
The Skycatcher is the epitome of all that is wrong with GA. Modern materials matched to 1930's engine tech. Outsourced production, ridiculous logistical problems arising from that and all wrapped in reams of legal rulings. Resulting in an 2 seat aircraft costing $150,000.
Unfortunately for these planes the commonly wearing or first parts to break are impossible to come by now. Or at ridiculous prices. Over speed a flap. 30k for a new one. Let the door pop open in flight. Between 15-20k if you can get one. Still great planes to fly. Only 100 hp but it doesn’t need more!
@@skywagonuniversity5023 this is true. The way they fail would make it a very very expensive repair. Not that it’s really a downside all planes are expensive. I still love the plane and know them extremely well and help maintain a fairly large fleet of them
How did Cessna in all their experiance messup this project pricing for a plane that has only what you need and nothing flash and expensive ? It reminds me of the Erco or Tomahawk made to do a job and easy to service. I notice 2 seaters coming back in the market , maybe Cessna should dust off the cobwebs and rethink this idea, eg; I don't realy like Cessna's (Alon A2 / Mooney FAN 🤣) but I DO like this one !
@@skywagonuniversity5023 I am a bit wary about spinning since I lost two friends to a spin in an ultra light. In my oponion it is more about how easy it is to get out than about how hard it is to get into one. I once declined spinning a C172 because it dropped left wing in a stall - not even full right rudder could keep left wing from dropping.
They installed the lower structure on the rudder system. They did test with the chute and the guy testing it pulled the chute and made it to the ground… till the wind cought it and dragged the pilot and the plane across the ground. Sad story.
is horrible... Cessna just needed to take a 150 or 152 and improve everything that had failed over the years and release it for sale. rightly there was no market. people fly from inside. interior aesthetics are very important
Pointless plane: way more expensive, outperformed and with an embarassingly poor level of finishing when compared with most of its european and south african competitors...they would have made a better decision upgrading the good ‘ol 152 since one of those, with 10k+ flight hours, still sells for almost 60k USD overseas 😅
