Skydive AFF stage 5 - Fail 

Goood words, bruv ! Blue skies :)

+Erik Borgersen no worries, im a novice jumper myself. every jump is a learning experience, even if it goes off without a hitch.

It took me a lot of jumps to just relax in free fall and bloody hell it helped with stability and turning once I could relax. Sometimes on the plane I just tell myself before I jump "hard arch and accept the fall". Accept basically just being chill out and accept it.

I like to remind myself that "relax" in skydive means loose muscles, not chill brain. Of course brain is active, and it can tell muscles to go limp enough for good arch.

Shouldn't that be "Remember you're still stupider than the 99% of people who never jump out of a plane." You, sir, have a false and highly dysfunctional to the point of self-destruction value system. Fix it before it's too late.

So jumping out of a plane makes one superior over others? Now I get why narcissist are so prone to dangerous things to prove they have guts!

@@yellowdayz1800 no it just makes them superior to the people who come on just to comment hateful things about us jumping out of an airplane.

@@Reaperdeathpunch , ok yes I should not consider you all narcs. But it is way out there, so risky behavior. I agree that people should not say mean things about others. Sometimes we just need a reminder.

Sandy Heesom skydiving is only risky in the sense that if you don’t do everything properly you will almost certainly die... that is not the reason the majority of skydivers do it... the bliss feeling of flying through the sky is unmatched to many things and unfortunately the people who are too scared to try it will condemn it as stupidity...

maybe flight instructors can compare

@@rnzoli No, skydiving instructors have a much more stressful job. At least the flight instructors get to stay in the perfectly good aircraft instead of jumping out of it.

@@kurtsvensson4362 no, I disagree :) in worst case, a skydiving instructor can save himself alone, because he has his own chute. With an aircraft, if the student crashes it, the instructor will be in the crashing aircraft too.... From one aspect however, it's true that skydiving has more injuries that flying with an aircraft. The reason is wind, uneven terrain, so strained ankles, smaller bruises are far more common, than in flight instruction :)

@@rnzoli You do realise that the flight instructor has full control of the aircraft in case the student does something stupid right?

@@kurtsvensson4362 most of the time, yes. And then there are other times, when the students can make suddent (serious) mistakes in a split second and the flight instructors don't have enough time to correct by taking over control. This happens when flying close to the ground, landing or takeoff. You can read such a recent accident here: data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/102959/pdf (should lead to WPR21FA170). Another big gotcha for flight instructors is to fly with experienced pilots. I personally know 2 instructors, who sustained life-threatening injuries, because they trusted their student too much, based on their prior history. So by the time they took control was too late to prevent a crash. Interestingly both accidents happened over rising terrain, one leading to a stall and spin, the other was a CFIT because they entered a cloud layer on the side of the mountain. So I think there may be a higher student-injury rate per jump in skydiving, but there may be a higher instructor-injury rate per flight in flight instruction. I am not sure though, whether such statistics exist or not.

Doesn't really matter, if the drop is good and you pull at normal height there shouldn't be an issue on this DZ. Still I wonder which I would prefer, landing in trees or landing in a city. My DZ has a very large landing zone but has a city on its western side. Me and two others were once dropped way too far out west and couldn't see the ground due to total cloud cover (it's a Europe DZ). Pilot thought he had only wingsuit flyers with him (was last load, not full load) and typically wingsuit flyers want an exit way further from the DZ than normal. Pilot dropped us way out about 3 miles from the DZ. I had a very strong back wind flying a crossfire 109 but the distance was still a gamble. One of us took an alternate landing zone while I took the gamble and the other followed me. I barely made it to the edge of the DZ flying in deep brakes. This is the vid from th pov of the guy who followed me ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pKLx7nE2Tfs.html . Looking at that city below with no options to the side because the wind was so strong it would have just pushed me sideways I think I would prefer landing in trees like the guy in this vid than the option of needing to land in the city. I went to highschool there and knew the city, it was nothing but narrow streets, one small central plaza surrounded by buildings and a church. Very bad landing options.

It's where I did my course. Fantastic place with amazing instructors. I had to do stage 5 four or 5 times too. No fault of instructors - they were great. Body control is hard and you don't get long to practice it! Pilot always dropped us off on right place so always landed in the middle. Never even thought about the trees. This jump just looks unlucky

Moruya (NSW) Australia. Really nice DZ. Water does go for miles as its the Pacific Ocean.

@@eddiedaengineer Tunnel time helps with this a great deal

@@rocket1818 Totally. I spent an hour or so in a tunnel in Singapore which helped a great deal, but never actually got back to jumping though :(

Word! i didn't get why my groundschool instructor said to wear the alti's all day, now i know ;)

use a watch, or alti trainer, estimate around 10 seconds for the first 1,000 feet, then 5 seconds for each 1,000 feet after that. time awareness helps with altitude awareness.

william brennan probably kept flashing the pull finger to him and he did a 360 in that direction every time lol

As someone that does not Skydive, is that the main thing he did wrong? Pull too low?

@@griffen5748 yep. Number one rule is pull on time. Number 2 is pull stable. Getting fabric over your head is number 1 priority on the bottom of every skydive

⁠@@griffen5748 the main thing he didnt do was arching his back enough. if he had done that, he could have maintained stability and deploy his chute 10 seconds earlier. even with that, he still should have pulled because the main priority is to pull immediately, even if unstable.

At 0:19 you can see the blue altimeter on left side of the screen. It shows approximately 12500 feet.

@@ErsanYolcu I’m not a sky diver but one comment said first 10 sec is 1000 ft then every 5 sec 1000ft after that, so from 12500 ft that’s not much left to play with especially with a 60 sec free fall from doing the math = 1,500 ft left if I got that right.

+Jason foley Moruya with Skydive Oz

Haha hat happened?

I'm sure he did a 360 in the direction of the instructors pull finger every time 🤣🤣

were you able to relax your first time.

Andrew C 1. You will never experience swimming while riding on the boat - same goes for plane 2. I never saw perfectly good plane in my entire life 3. The doors were open

Andrew C love the response

Linus Magnus Sick story.

Linus Magnus There was a time ni which all of us were beginners... Learning is what matters. The guy was nervous, and in the AFF you deploy at 5k because of a reason: you are learning and you might have problems, so you have those extra seconds. Remember? :)

Ruben Cardenal I was on static line :D But yeah!

I have fail lvl3 2 times now :(

Tunnel time anyone? That helped me tremendously

Did you guys finish aff?

Season eneded. Had now 3 hours of tunnel, planning to continue in beginning of May.

@@maxim_mahadeva wow! That's a lot. That's awesome! I have 17 jumps so far working on my A license. I'm a little sketchy about renting equipment so I'm trying to save up and get a rig. Full face helmet will make jumping so much less stressful too! I got a kiss and it's awesome!

sounds scary but at least you kept concentration and remembered what you had to do.

Its close to Bateman's Bay. Its Moruya.

there must be a reason you are watching this then. Trying to get over your fears? then you should do it at least tandem

@@asserswelam im afraid of heights on ladders etc but im fairly certain i would have no problem jumping, i get drawn here to these vids!

Don’t skydive

@K M, it's not for me

The scariest part of this is that fucking step they have to stand on, I'm afraid they'll hit their fucking chin on it. It's why I'm glad the planes I jump from, are just straight out the side of the plane, rather than out onto a step, then jump.

This place is Moruya, New South Wales, Australia.

@Mich Po, I think so

@Mich Po, it should be ok

Some people react like they are in a swimming pool. If you think about it, after 5 jumps you have only had 5 minutes of freefall experience. I wouldn't call it a total fail, but safety wise he needs to calm down a bit.

i would, he was flailing and trying to push the air with his hands to try to turn, and had a pretty bad canopy deployment. what he needs to do is RELAX and arch as much as he can so that he maintains stability and make small adjustments to maintain heading and turning.

I just finished mine! Woohoo so worth it. Posted all my vids too

+Aaron Proctor Late reply, but yes. Typical pull is at about 5k during AFF. Instructor having to pull at 3k left him quite low, and it's dangerous since it gave him little time to react if his main had an issue and he had to cutaway. But, he had little choice as he had to ensure the safety of his student first.

Dan Linn with stage 5 though, you wave off and deploy at 4000. so the instructor should be ready for it

Just saying, it's actually against regulations to be on any kind of drug when skydiving, so if they are watching you smoke a joint, they are supposed to stop you from making the jump.

Nobody heard him, calm down

@@bar4146 so far 278k have....😎

You're jumping out of a plane at 13k feet! It's ok to swear lol

My advice is...do not do like this guy did. ARCH !!! And don't pull low. Watch your altimeter. HAVE FUN.

Don't flail, smooth chest and shoulder turns, don't swing the arms to turn. That's just going to make you unstable until you have been comfortable up there for a while. You can see a lot of flailing in the video, the legs or feet are kicking constantly, knees are dropping, arms flailing. AFF4 is the harder one of the two, AFF5 should be pretty straight forward, practice body position and that's all it is. Obviously pulling at the right altitude is a pass, everything below is an automatic fail. GL.

Go do some tunnel work at ifly and you’ll kill it!

The problem is he's not flat, stable, and holding a heading. He needs to relax, and smile.

He pulled to low, that's an automatic fail.

I agree, when I did my first aff jump I knew my altitude the entire way down, even though I forgot all of the hand signals lol, sensory over load lol, and now I'm waiting for the cold weather to go away to start jumping again

Perris? I'm going to be AFFing too. I'm waiting for winter too lol. Yeah i forgot to check my altimeter when I tandem jumped, but I always was altitude aware. I know how high up we were the whole time. Have you seen that video of two skydivers who forgot to pull their chute and their AAD fired at 100 feet up?

Mike Green no, I live in michigan, and yes I did see that video. Crazy how if the aad didn't fire they would have gone splat

I've only been one time but when I jumped I was so entranced by the free fall I completely forgot to pull until my instructor told me. I think I would have eventually but it probably would have been at an altitude where if something went wrong I wouldn't have had time to fix it. Also I have very poor depth perception so some one like me needs an altimeter I don't think everyone does though.

jordans92169 i wasnt able to tell how fast the planet was getting until my 4th jump, when i became aware of everything, body position,altitude,instructor location,ground rush.......

@enta2k, if you say he's a bad instructor, tell me why. And also, if you say he's a bad instructor, try being a skydiving instructor and see whether it is nice and easy being an instructor.

+JoakimVG That's why you check the winds aloft

“The wind”