Skyrim - SECRETS of the Snow Elves AKA The Falmer - Elder Scrolls Lore 

Since we only find 1 snow elf male even if there are other holdouts it would be almost impossible for the snow elves as a species to bounce back from. They would need to relocate to the Forgotten Vale(FV for short) unnoticed, destroy anyway into the FV (but one), stay hidden and repopulate until these a few hundred of them when they couch decide weither to open relations with the outside world. And thats IF anymore snow elves survived.

@@The_Eskime There probably won't be any female snow elves left. They would probably have to re-populate with Altmer or maybe even humans. Sort of like what the Akaviri did with the Imperials during Remman's rule.

My head canon is that there must be some who escaped the fate of the falmer. For example, I'm playing as a snow elf in skyrim now, with the backstory of his family sensing great magical power in him and hiding him away from the dwemer. Obviously that's not canon but I feel it's definitely possible something similar could've happened

Gelebor actually states that there were 100 of his pupils with him and it was only fairly recent that the betrayed stumbled upon the forgotten vale and killed all 100 of his pupils leaving only him and vurther so it's not impossible for other large groups of snow elves to go in noticed on other parts of tamriel

@@steakinbacon8593 Did he ever say he was that old?

Indeed. They didn’t just fall from grace, but everything that made them who they were was taken from them

I do like that there was a glimpse of hope for them in the game. Not that they'd be able to return to the glory of their past, but that they can rise up and become something different altogether.

Tarlo The Boar i don’t know if “peaceful” is the right word. They were civilized and relatively good, but they weren’t innocent, they attacked the Atmorans for no real reason other than greed (wanting to steal the eye of Magnus from the Atmorans). I’m not saying they “deserved” it, but it was something they brought on themselves by making war with the Atmorans.

@@thunderbird7020 I feel as though genocide is a bit harsh for the destruction of one city.

@@zephyrshackleford8018 sure it is, but you sanitize the snow elves too much, they didn't just "destroy" the city, they butchered every man woman and child in it. Is genocide in response excessive? Objectively yes, but such is history.

Get it? We'll still be talking about TESV cuz TES6 still won't be out in 20 years

GhostyGhost7007 2024 is the release isn’t it ?

@@averagelad966 the release date is still unknown basically every leak has proven to be fake basically tes 6 will be out 2022-2024 it probably is maybe t1 in 2024 or t4 in 2023 but a 2022 release date *is* kinda realistic but we dont know how long theyve been working on it or how many people are working on tes6

dude is there really a stump with ants in riverwood? man, there's always something new to learn about TES lore

@@smitty1647 yes. There is. How they work is a mystery. They are immune to all magic and resist all physical interaction. Check em out. They are near gerders "meeting" stump.

Those lines made me avoid killing falmer in the deeps. I just pity them, and want them to grow and return to tamriel. Not as snow elves, but as something new. Their physical appearence may be permanent, but that did not stop the orsimer

I have often wondered about those lines, too. Just out of curiosity: what do you think it means? False hope because the whole Dwemer race disappeared before the kindly few could offer help in secret? Some sentient, seeing Falmer among the twisted ones? Or something else entirely, like an escape in the form of High Elves or even Nords? Some kind of change magic to live out in the open, hiding in plain sight. Or none of the above?

@@dustmote6359 there are probably allies beyond Skyrim that we don't know about, who were able to give some refugees sanctuary in secret. There could also be other places like the forgotten vale where Snow Elves were able to start over.

This is only a theory, but seeing as this excerpt is seemingly from a female falmer perhaps this could be the origin of the whisper mothers. There is an interesting reddit thread on this matter that speaks of how the whisp mothers faces have striking similarities to the snow elves, and that they are likely snow elven in origin. Maybe it's a bit of a stretch but purhaps the Pale lady is this Faire Agarwen, "reborn" and the first to make the transformation. Either way those sentences from this diary is extremely interesting and worth being explored further. www.reddit.com/r/teslore/comments/12f6rk/origin_of_the_wispmother/?

@@cheecheeChomba Wasn't the Pale Lady Aumriel, an enemy of Ysgramor?

Bro you get the comment award lmao

anyone else think they should make a big video about what corent gods are most popular and what happens to those unpopular or recognized bye different names and forms exc

@Afatasi Sausasi ...They are still Snowelves Fal(snow) mer(folk =elven people)

@Afatasi Sausasi damnit! 😂

Best comment ever!

Spear ?

@@Shitbird3249 Morrowind had more weapon types than Oblivion or Skyrim. Spears were one of those weapon types

aaron glass Morrowind had spears, tantos, throwing stars, throwing knives, halberds, claymores, longswords, shortswords, daggers, long bows, short bows, staves, maces, war hammers, axes, war axes, battle axes, wakizashis, darts, katanas, dai-tantos, clubs, crossbows, and just good ole punching. I’m not even going to get into the expansive magic and spells system (in comparison to later games), and you may begin to understand the argument that Bethesda has been simplifying their games.

@@bimlauyomashitobi421 * Side note: When he says punching, he means mirrowind had an unarmed skill.

@@bimlauyomashitobi421 Morrowind was a way deeper game than Skyrim. Yes skyrim was better from a technical standpoint but it wasn't worth it IMO. Skyrim is still a great game but it just isn't as good as I thought it was when I was 12 now that I'm 21. Just wasn't a deep enough experience.

And the ancient Yokudans! To hear what the language sounds like or to see sword singers at work would be MAGICAL.

fleeze92 The mod “Project AHO” has a dwemer ghost speaking in his own tongue. Really cool part to an awesome mod.

check out the Ancient Falmer and Timelost Dwemer race mods by Redshiftja on the Nexus

That would be dope imagine playing as one of the Dwemer

And Ayleids! But Todd is trying to get his money back from Fallout 76 by reselling Skyrim

Just a DM in general would be amazing.

Imagine a Nat 20 History Roll.

@@OldManMcLoyf imagine rolling a 1.

@@OldManMcLoyf just gives them a url

i just started writing a TES themed D&D campaign. it's soo much fun lmao i recommend it

Absolutly they deserve more likes

And subs. By far the best elder scrolls and fallout RU-vidr out there.

My favorite fallout game is fallout new Vegas and elder scrolls game is oblivion

I love the lore regardless of Fudgemuppet, but no one makes better lore videos than Fudgemuppet.

@Giorgos Georgiou what? This is fantasy, he doesn't take sides lmao

Indeed a noble endeavor, worthy of sainthood. I'll make sure to publish your Opus, should you end up imprisoned in some strange pocket of Oblivion.

I certainly welcome all the help I can get in this great hunt. I think chaurus might prove to be a more dangerous prey than the cliff racers of old. And the deep, dark, cold, cramped tunnels of Tamriel might be too much for the sanity of one pilgrim by their lonesome. Let’s form a guild.

I got pissed and scared as fuck when I first encountered the freaking bugs on the surface. " WHERE DID YOU COME DAEDRA SPAWN, BURN DAMN YOU BURN" Type of feeling

You have my conjured bow. Where do I sign up for the Chaurus Crusaders?

69th like for St. Jiub! YUS! X,D

That is true, the last snow elf (because you killed his brother) did say they were becoming smarter and more tactful. I think if they avoid that toxic fungus and remain on the surface they'll recover much faster especially with that snow elf guiding them since he's basically immortal. I also want the deep elf's (dwarfs) to return and perhaps we could get a war between them, newly reformed snow elves vs the returning deep elf's! Who would win? Who would you support? Where would this conflict take place? You decide!

@@somedude9309 the dwarves are definitely not coming back. But if they did, if they all reappeared together, i throw my hat in with them. By the time of Skyrim the dragon fires are gone, the Tribunal is dead, and magic is fading. The empire is divided and the races are all weakened. For all intents and purposes, skyrim was the closest thing to the end times we have seen. Everything is on decline. If the Dwemer returned, they would automatically become the most powerful race on Tamriel, because they shun the gods, and practice a more scientific magic. These are the race who built themselves a literal machine god that served a major role in elder scrolls history. And created the god Talos. Dwemer, dwemer would win lol. But they arent coming back, and only one still lives in Vvardenfel. Although after the eruption of red mountain, who knows if he still lives?

Auri-El could bless them and restore their power

Unless the aldmeri dominion destroys them

@@yaromirgusev2616 i doubt the Altmer would kill the Falmer if they were becoming smarter, the Altmer might be helping them you never know

Which makes it all the more tragic and despite what the Snow Elves did to Saarthal, I have nothing but pity for them.

TheSnep considering it wasn’t all of them who attacked Saarthal same. Some weren’t even involved in that and yet it didn’t matter to Ysgramor, it was effectively a cleansing of a race over the actions of a few

@@chazo1367 It really makes you hate the nords of old and all that support them.

@Kyle Pedoslayer BS, they didn't care the Nords existed, they let them live without issue in Skyrim for who knows how long, on top of that, they allowed peaceful travel of the Nedes across Tamriel from Atmora, they had peace for a good while, all before Saarthal was erected on top of an Aedric Artifact that was important to their people. Ysgramor and the 500 Atmoran Companions didn't have to commit an Extinction level event upon them all for one city. Really, why did Snow Elves across the whole province have to pay for the actions of a few for the Night of Tears? The Snow Prince ruler the Falmer put on an impressive last stand, to the point where they buried him with full honors as a warrior, despite being enemies. After he died, Ysgramor should've ended the war to respect the fallen Warrior Prince.

@@apricotmadness4850 True, they really are the most primitive, bloodthirsty humans, reveling and finding glory in the deaths of others. Skyrim today is a run down, backwater Province with brutish bandits running about. The Snow Elves were said to have been very advanced, and were far ahead of what was expected at the time, and they had no interest in spreading out from Skyrim to the other provinces, since they're well attuned and adapted to the North as it is. Maybe it would've been a beautiful province, rivaling even the Summerset Isles in beauty and sophistication. Instead, we have Nords...

Mods....

It would be wishful thinking considering that any vessel they had would be attacked and for the fact that no one in the time period had open borders.

Given the existence of the Chantry of Auriel being untouched by the Atmorans, it could be possible that the Snow Elves can still exist beyond just the Falmer in the caves. While it is unlikely, given their ability to use wayshrines, they could have created a type of sanctuary based around one of their temples and hid, when Ysgramor and the Companions and the Snow elves were losing, a few hundred of them could have fled through a wayshrine or several to a place where their culture could rebuild again, slowly over the next 4,000 years hidden high in the mountains protected by their gods and the use of their frost magics. Its an interesting scenario that could play out and give a good lore reason for why they could return in their original state.

Unlikely though possible that survivors who lived in the Vale and Chantry weren't all wiped and some made it to the Western reach of High Rock through the Vale, by some now lost route. Or like Gelebor said, other pockets who went elsewhere when they went to the Dwemer. That said I strongly believe if any are still out there by now, they like Gelebor are solitary, or at best few in numbers and tragically isolated away from the world. Unable to really return to the world or find each other. Not to say if they even did, they would be a living relic unable to find peace in society, if not outright hunted.

There's a fan theory on Reddit about it!:www.reddit.com/r/teslore/comments/g7cg5l/ice_elves_an_idea_entirely_made_up_by_an_avid_fan/

I mean if you think about it, an entire race was nearly driven to utter extinction because of a cities worth of them committing atrocities and the ones not involved fought back out of survival.

@Kyle Pedoslayer You're clearly not fond of their poisons and pets.

@@chazo1367 Exactly, can't believe much of the Fanbase says that the Snow Elves "deserved it". Ysgramor and the 500 Atmoran Companions didn't have to commit an Extinction level event upon them all for one city. Really, why did Snow Elves across the whole province have to pay for the actions of a few for the Night of Tears? The Snow Prince, ruler of the Falmer, put on an impressive last stand, to the point where they buried him with full honors as a warrior, despite being enemies. After he died, Ysgramor should've ended the war to respect the fallen Warrior Prince.

@@thalmoragent9344 straight FAX. besides I doubt they just attacked sarthal out of the blue on a whim. the nords were probably being the cocky barbaric pricks they've always been and encroaching on snow elf territory which triggered them to attack in the first place. its hardly an eye for an eye. more like 2 arms a leg and your internal organs for an eye. .

@@captainzoltan7737 Funny thing is, I was watching a video on the Eye of Magnus, and it states not only was Saarthal not the only city (just the main one/capital) but that the Snow Elves never intended on wiping out or pushing the Nords from Skyrim; ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wJGUWbDip_A.html They didn't just go in and slaughter everyone (although as tensions rose in the city at night, unfortunately the situation must've gotten out of hand) they had a map of the city and went directly to a part of the city (night means less resistance or issue moving in the city) and supposedly were indeed there for the Eye of Magnus. Questions is, why's they leave it in Saarthal for as long as they did? My guess is that they knew something was wrong and as Elves, they felt the magical presence of the Eye, and came to investigate, maybe not knowing what exactly they were looking for, that's my best guess. They wouldn't have attacked for no reason, and if the Nords were messing with the Eye or were being careless with it, the Snow Elves, as natives of the land, would have a right to see and assess the Artifact. Either way, the Snow Elves only went to Saarthal, and the situation went from surgical operation to a fight, in which (somehow) Ysgramor and his sons were the only survivors.. Weird, how is it the leader and his sons of a warrior race were the only survivors, even though you'd think he would've remained and fought "like a true Nord" not abandon his people. The situation may be exaggerated by the Historians, maybe not a full blown slaughter, or if it was, Ysgramor certainly wasn't the only one who lived and escaped from the city, maybe others went to the other cities and sought to hide with them, since the Snow Elves had no interest in wiping all of them out in the first place, but Ysgramor would've been angry enough to go to Atmora alone and make bold claims of "Elves being jerks", and used that as an excuse to kill them off into hiding. Either way, I won't condone innocent people dying, but the Snow Elves certainly had their reasons with something like the Eye of Magnus involved, and given the Staff of Magnus was found in another capital city of Nords, well... seems they were hiding it and perhaps tampering with something they didn't understand, and the Falmer fearing this would cause calamity to Skyrim itself is reason enough to demand the Eye be given to them, a race far more advanced and able to safeguard the Eye and have it under safe keeping.

The weird thing is most of this could have been avoided if they ignored the fact the the nords found an artifact.

@@somedude9309 unlikely as there was definitely a lot of tension between the two before that. The whole "the nords were peaceful" thing was definitely nord propaganda

@@somedude9309 Perhaps, but we don't even know if the Snow Elves knew the Eye of Magnus was there. They low-key may have attacked Saarthal for an entirely different reason, maybe revenge for Saarthal's inhabitants screwing about their lands and maybe harming some Snow Elves or something Even if it was for the Artifact, why wouldn't the Snow Elves have asked for the Eye, saying it was an important item for their God? I feel there's a lot the Nords didn't write down, to victimize themselves more for future writers. No attempts of diplomacy, at all, from a race of evidently very peaceful elves in comparison to the all the ones we know of? Just saying, something doesn't add up. This doesn't justify killing all the innocents in Saarthal, no, but seriously, the entire race to be killed for the destruction of ONE city? That's BS, and I say Ysgramor should've ended the war to respect the fallen Snow Prince, the Snow Elf that the nords so clearly thought was a great Warrior to the point they gave him a proper, honorable burial.

@@thalmoragent9344 Don't forget the nords slaughtered the elves who were above ground, it was the deep elves/dwarfs who finished off the remaining members of the race via slavery and poison before disappearing. We must also remember that snow elves who are affected by poison are slowly evolving back to their former glory, well not entirely they'll remain blind and ignorant to their old way of life, but they are growing more intelligent and will eventually develop a new culture. In the end, the snow elves survived this atrocity but it does beg the question of what happened to their original slavers of whom were gifted in the ways of technology and magic of which was unlike anything we saw. But these little pricks just vanished.

@@somedude9309 Well, many of them probably still eat the fungus as well as Chaurus, and while they may be getting smaller, I doubt they'll fully return to their OG form, with or without blindness. They'll be as smart as Goblins/Reiklings at best, but active outside help would be needed to actually help these guys, and who knows how long that would take, and if they can even acquire sentient souls again

I agree, we don't know the whole story, and besides, why wouldn't the Snow Elves have asked for the Eye, saying it was an important item for their God? I feel there's a lot the Nords didn't write down, to victimize themselves more for future writers. No attempts of diplomacy, at all, from a race of evidently very peaceful elves in comparison to the all the ones we know of? Just saying, something doesn't add up. This doesn't justify killing all the innocents in Saarthal, no, but seriously, the entire race to be killed for the destruction of ONE city? That's BS, and I say Ysgramor should've ended the war to respect the fallen Snow Prince, the Snow Elf that the nords so clearly thought was a great Warrior to the point they gave him a proper, honorable burial.

@@thalmoragent9344 exactly. Maybe one day we'll get a better explanation from Bethesda Game Studios.

@@daltonsimmerock5999 One can only hope... sad the Dawnguard DLC never went through anything deeper with their Lore. No weapons, Falmer Artifacts or clothing or any of their other Armor (Knight Paladin Armor is nice but it's not what the average army of the Falmer would've worn)

@Giorgos Georgiou The Imperials/Empire aren't perfect, much like every race. They can be pretty racist too, at least according to history. But I do hope that Snow Elves could find a way to become intergrated into society somewhere in the future. I want that game.

Gelebor says that when the possibility of communication with the falmer arrives he will seek to educate them on sho they once were and what lead to them becoming what they are now so it is possible a peicefull existence with them could happen maybe not at first but it could still happen

@Giorgos Georgiou the toxin although primarily caused their blindness it also paved the way for the dwarves to really fuck up the snow elves. In every dwemer ruin with snow elves there's always torture devices which implies that th3 dwemer tortured the snow elves a combination of being forced to eat the fumgus,torture,forced to live underground would eventually lead to them devolving into what they are now and it never helped that the dwemer automatons prevented them from easily accessing the serface. If the falmer stop eating the fungus their sight will eventually return however it will take centuries or more for them to evolve to look even remotely what they use to look like before

Why they attacked a whole city killing woman and children they deserved punishment

@@Twilight24682 could have been any number of reasons, despite the peace Ysgramor and those from Atmora were likely members of the Dragon Cult and were claiming more and more land as their own this could have led to skirmishes between the two sides that we never saw. After all, the Dragon Cult is known for its brutality so it makes sense for those who believe in it to still act as their religion would dictate, even in a new land. Also we only have the word of the Nords and the Night of Tears to confirm that it was just a farming village but I do not think so; this is a people who are known for their embellishments when it comes to accomplishments and demonizing their foes further than they should be. Not only that but after reading through the night of Tears and information surrounding the Nord-Falmer War, it seems that most of the Falmer were unprepared for the return of the Nords. Perhaps it was a small force that made their way into the city as the Imperial Report suggested and made their way into the center because they detected the eye of Magnus. With such a powerful tool in the hands of new and likely aggressive arrivals it makes sense for the strike to secure it but the situation got out of hand resulting in them destroying Saarthal. It could have been a group that was just tired of the Atmorans constantly taking land that wasn't rightfully theirs or a noble who believed that such a power was a threat to the snow elves. After all, if you were the leader of a nation and suddenly detected that a rival nation has access to high grade uranium necessary for the construction of nuclear warheads, a surgical strike would be warranted. The entire situation could have been a mistake blown out of proportion and would have been settled in a talk, someone needed to pay but not the entire Snow Elf civilization and population. Edit: sorry for the initial jumbled mess.

@@Twilight24682 they had reasons

more faith and devotion to Auri-el

I think the god of luck tried to help them but they didn’t trust him

Yeah, I feel for the Mer honestly. Whenever humans and Elves meet, either there's; Uneasy Peace, Human Enslavement, or Elven Genocide. It's always the same thing, over and over. Unfortunately for the Snow Elves, humans once again show lack of restraint and choose to bathe in blood and destroy all Elven lives they see.

@@thalmoragent9344 yeah it's pretty sad

@@Reckless-02 Sucks man, really does. One day, I hope the other races of Mer can band together and remain isolated from the destructive races of Man. I mean, the Yokudans straight up nuked their continent just so they could have a chance at killing off their Elven rivals. Humans have no chill whatsoever

@@thalmoragent9344 i heard about that, cant beat them die with them, stubborn ill give the yokudans that.

@@thalmoragent9344 the mer races can be just a horrible to men. You know about the Aeylids right?

chris Roman When you wake up extra early, this is your reward.

you can always watch it later though

When you Open up youtube this is your reward

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Exactly, they got the worst death. All the other fallen races still have ruins, history, even some culture that we can see and learn about, but the Snow Elves got completely done dirty, like... there's NOTHING left of their civilization, it's tragic, and terrible. No ruins, culture, nothing, poor Gelebor. And how do we know the Nords aren't lying, why wouldn't the Snow Elves have asked for the Eye, saying it was an important item for their God? I feel there's a lot the Nords didn't write down, to victimize themselves more for future writers. No attempts of diplomacy, at all, from a race of evidently very peaceful elves in comparison to the all the ones we know of? Just saying, something doesn't add up. This doesn't justify killing all the innocents in Saarthal, no, but seriously, the entire race to be killed for the destruction of ONE city? That's BS, and I say Ysgramor should've ended the war to respect the fallen Snow Prince, the Snow Elf that the nords so clearly thought was a great Warrior to the point they gave him a proper, honorable burial.

@@thalmoragent9344 The Snow Elves surely had a reason to protect the Eye Of Magnus. As the Psijic's thought it was not safe to be around as well.I'm pretty sure the Nords did not gave it to the them as a means to keep it for themselves.

@@demetriusstiakkogiannakes1326 Yeah, the Nords being a very warmongering race definitely doesn't make anyone adept with Magic all that comfortable. Albeit not quite Canon (Michael Kirkbride), now that I know the Eye of Magnus was stolen from them after Ysgramor took it away. It killed his friend cause of course, they were messing with it). And yeah, given there's stuff like "Ysgramor’s provocations" and all that, which we know the history books would never mention, as history is written from the victors. The Snow Elves didn't even kill all the humans in Skyrim, just Ysgramor and his lot out of Saarthal. Again, not saying the Night of Tears isn't still a tragedy, if they truly did just kill everyone there including children, but they have a FAR more moral leg to stand on given they were, at this rare, defending their home from invaders

Tbh if you look at the current nords, it’s possible the nords started the night of tears by assaulting random snow elves or something.

Because I could see nords doing something like that.

Them*

An adventuring Bard who gives little lore bits whenever you come across him, and misc quests that take you around the map?

Three hooded bards that travel across Tamriel.

@@SpadesPlaysIt thanks for correction

@@vfox1582 Haha i imagine them as librarians, but bards sounds better

Yeah whenever I kill a falmer I now tend to respectfully put them in a burial pose and cover them in gold and jewels what happened to their race was completely uncalled for regardless of what a what did or did not happen at Saarthal but you know ysgramor being the bloodthirsty prick he is wanted to keep the murder spree going even when he should have stoped long before the siege of solsthiem. And who knows maybe we will see more original snow elves in the next game

Or better yet have a quest that allows you to travel back in time and stop the dwemer from enslaving the snow elves and forcing them to eat the fungus and then maybe lead some of those snow elves to a place they won't be found by the atmorans. The reward could be that you unlock them as a playable race for your next character or sonething

@@steakinbacon8593 I love this idea, save some Falmer from the Atmorans and have them remain in a pocket plane of Oblivion, but not a bad one, one that's safe and good for their Snowy preference, and they can then leave there and go to the Chantry of Auriel and meet with Gelebor, who can become their next Snow Prince, and inhabit the Vale fully

Can we get a game where we play as the Snowelfarine?

Falmer is Snow Elf in elvish Gelebor prefers to be called Snow Elf, because Falmer is only really associated with the hostile mob in dwemer ruins and these lovely creatures are also "the betrayed" so while Falmer literally means Snow Elf, to Gelebor, it is synonymous with the betrayed so he'd rather, you call him Snow Elf

Yes, Falmer translates to Snow Elf. Gelebor doesn't like being called a Falmer because people associate Falmer with the so called Betrayed that attack anyone in the Dwemer Ruins.

Thanks man! We will occasionally drop a build when inspiration strikes but ye, it takes a while to trial them out and we are just super excited for a fresh game with new systems to learn :)

Well thx for the reply I hear you there well I'll see you guys around loving the lore videos 😃

Same here, but 5am.

Damn if we discovered through one faction questline that ysgamor was a dragon cultist that would have been incredible

@@jamesmccarthy962 Ahzidal, one of the guys that helped Ysgramor wipe out the Falmer, became a dragon priest.

The Dwemer

Afatasi Sausasi lmao

@A Markarth Guard *I'll slaughter you all once I get out of this loading screen!*

Yeah im also very skeptical of the idea the Elves attacked first. The history of the event is entirely from the Nords perspective and full of propaganda. Additionally, mans first historian was Ysgramor himself, that fact alone discredits the Night of Tears for me. The Snow Elves were the most peaceful race not just of Elf, but of all races. There is no record of a war before the Nords came, and even when they came the Elves let them stay. The races of man have a history of genocide of Elves. The Yokudans and Redguards eradicated the Left Handed Elves for seemingly no reason. The Nords did the same to the Snow Elves. It's hardly even a theory, everything we know leads us to believe the Night of Tears is pure propaganda

nice pics

Old comment but they certainly won't make it a playable race, they were just tossed in during daggerfall, they were never ment to be anything more than lore, skyrim changed that as well as a lot of other stuff but they won't go that far they're aware of the criticism they got from all the retconing shit

Ya, like breaking glass and gluing it back together Good as new 😄

@The MeanestKitten Haha fair point. I don’t expect them to return to their full selves (other than by divine intervention by Auriel). But if they stopped eating the mushrooms, their blindness, madness, and perhaps even their degenerated appearance could be helped.

What do you mean, exactly? Is this against the Atmorans or the Snow Elf?

@@thalmoragent9344 Snow elves. The Atmorians wiped the floor with them.

@@bengainey4903 To be fair, Sai the God of luck likely had a lot to do with that. Don't forget the Atmorans also had dragons, which probably is part of the reason we don't see any Snow Elf Ruins in Skyrim. Dragons, Azidal, Ysgramor and his 500 Companions, Sai... to be fair, the Snow Elves had far from a fair fight against the Atmorans. Still, the Snow Prince was still a marvel, solely killing the greatest of the Atmoran Warriors that day. Hope he was sent to a great place in Aetherius with his Aedric Ancestors, like Auriel.