Slay the Princess - All Endings 

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Thats the tradeoff though, this game has no gameplay. Visual novels will always have more branching narratives because they don't need to code gameplay so they have more time and money to write the story.

​@@conusx4752isnt reading the story already the gameplay?

​@@tiqosc1809What they mean is games that have more going for them for gameplay than clicking dialogue options take a longer time to develop. When you don't have to do all that you can use that time to flesh out making the choices matter more in a meaningful way.

@@xeta2466 I'd argue that having more mechanical systems detract from a story's narrative and vice versa. Doom Eternal as an example is incredible in terms of gameplay mechanics and player interaction, but its story (while quite good) was never a point of interest for either its developers or its target base. By not focusing on story, Doom did what it did best. Slay the Princess similarly had very clear had set goals and went for those goals, however its direction was from the other side of the Narrative-Gameplay spectrum. edit: I just repeated what conusx4752 said, but in slightly more words.

@@ED11169 Ehhhh I wouldn't agree with that, I think provided infinite time one can absolutely produce a game where the gameplay and story enhance each other instead of detracting. Plenty of games use gameplay as storytelling devices used to make the player feel what the characters are going though. The main problem is that takes time, and time is money you have to play developers. So when you get a game like this where it forgos using the gameplay to help tell the story you have a lot more time to focus on things like branching choices which is something that is notoriously hard to do well and flesh out. One example I would say is the last of us. The shooting mechanics and ammo scarcity hammer down how hard it is to survive in that world and the foraging mechanics show how necessary it is to be resourceful to survive. There are some parts in the game that I would say are communicated better because of the gameplay elements present, when you compare it to the show where there is no gameplay because it's not a game.

Yeah especially “the look” she understands it, we understand it, but the narrator had was so confused

Even I know about “the look”

@@danielramage6232 Sigh I'm the only that doesn't undersand it

​@@Yayaloy9 no only 😅

​​@@danielramage6232I thought everyone knew about " *the look* "

I've seen one. *It takes multiple slides.*

Somehow more mangled than Undertale xd

What's a flow chart?

@@lightningjadejavier A chart of all the possible scenes/dialogue options in the game put together in order from beginning to end

I'd definitely recommend this game for anyone that enjoys visual novels or wants to try one. The developers did an amazing job with this game.

@@CrankyTemplar now if only we could get a Stanley Parable crossover with this, then my life would be complete XD

Yeah, well... that's how visual novels are made.

@@MariaKryvohub yes but most tend to be really lazy when you really look at them- they always have like 10 characters, each with about 3 different frames/expressions, and like 20 backgrounds for the whole game. It might sound like a lot, but it's honestly so little how much that is. This guy put EVERYTHING into the art and quality of this game like it should be.

​@@killeing gotta love how they have one artwork (bg piece? Idk what to call it really...) that's just a poor drawing that congratulates you for slaying the Princess

You have very strange ideas about what constitutes a date 😂

with a good dash of eldritch horror to the mix lol

@@lilium9361naturally

This is The Raphael Parable

So the Narrator and the Bucket have a son?

I also think it's a bit freakin' cheeky of The Narrator to say "she'll end the world", when "the world" is this construct the person who made you both set up to create a scenario in which you can kill her. Technically true, but extremely misleading.

​@@enemyv yet, it is also literally true... if we fail to slay Change, it will eventually bring about the end of the universe. It will take a long time, but yes... she IS destined to end existence.

I'd say the second ending is the better one since a universe without chaos or change is a universe where nothing changes at all, nothing grows old but nothing new is made, it might as well be a perfect empty void.

​@studiouskid1528 I'm not sure. In the endings where the player does end up killing her, she doesn't seem to mind. Not hyped about it, sure. But she doesn't struggle, despite being very capable at it It's not very often when someone's last words to their killer is "I love you", you know

@@BrainflayerI don’t know if its that literally nothing ever changes as in time stands still or that things stay in a certain order and way. Because obviously if nothing ever changes to the most extreme extent than time just stands still. But I think this is like nothing huge ever changes. So I think a person can do whatever they want as long as it doesn’t fundamentally change history. Heres an example: Gta 6 could still come out but it would not make quantum computers.

thats a beatiful way to explained it my guy, hats off to you ❤

That’s so sweet ❤

I think they made it. The shifting mound becomes whatever it is you believe her to be. I like to think that their belief that everything will be okay is enough. Remember: Despite all the horrors you see and disturbing imagery that comes your way, this is, in fact, a love story, through and through.

​@@DirewolfMementoYup!

God, y-all would eat a turd if you were told it was a cake...

When you entered the cabin you could see the mass outside the window, but when you were about to leave the mass seemed to be gone. I tend to believe that the mass was no longer there.

I never noticed that! Good catch!@@docznms5162

I think there will be day when we come back and tell to our boys story about world outside

If your char is like her, then certainly they arent just personalities but LIKE HER physically

Great

The player is the Long Quiet, which gets revealed either from speaking to the Narrator for the final time or simply smashing the mirror and it's also brought up when speaking to the Princess when she appears as the Shifting Mound.

I know they're the player character but what are they the god of? Reality, permanence? They were both made by the same creator too which makes it even more confusing. Articles list the shifting mound as a deity of death and destruction and reality without her is forged by the long quiet alone without any suffering. However, death and destruction are not the only causation for suffering so her in existence doesn't explain that.

Probably stasis or whatever her opposite is, especially considering the new dawn ending where you're the only one left does lead to a world without death.

During the conversation with the Narrator in the shattered mirror, he tells us that we are an artificial god that he created for the sole purpose of slaying the Princess/destroying the Shifting Mound. The Shifting Mound, with her many faces and arms, seems to be borrowing some ideas from Indian religion. There's also a many-faceted god there. Shiva the Destroyer destroys the world so that Shiva's other self, Vishnu, can recreate the world from the old one's ashes. Change isn't always bad or good. It simply is. It is the natural way of things. But the Narrator, a mortal who was living in the end of days in the old world, couldn't bear the entire of his world and everyone in it dying and being swept away. If the Long Quiet/the protagonist was created as her equal and opposite, then I'm guessing it is essentially the god of eternity, undying, never changing, never growing, etc. The Narrator never says that part exactly, but it's the opposite of death and change and the idea seems to be mirrored in the "Good" ending where our reward is being trapped in a never-ending state. It's a clever bit of storytelling that tips us off to what the world would probably be like without Death/the Princess. Maybe The Long Quiet is able to make something better if it does slay the Princess, but I generally think that either ascending to Godhood with her or walking out of the cabin with her are undoubtedly the two best endings in the game -- Godhood on a cosmic scale and Leave the cabin on a personal level.

​@@thomashooper2451in that same conversation with the narrator you can ask him what he used to create you and the princess and he says he did so by ripping the forces of life and death in two so the player character and the princess are two sides of the same coin

You gon edit the word?

@@newchillzone224 i knew something felt weird when i read it last night but i as too sleepy to figure out what XD

​@newchillzone224 it sounds funnier censored

I thought it was a blood red moon at first

For the non-stranger endings her dialogue is different based on whether you brought the blade when you first met her or not. The missed ending variants in the description have the no knife variants.

@@CrankyTemplar so you will get the soft spoken one on every ending when you didn't get the blade on the 1st time meeting her?

Yes.

I'm glad the Voice of the Contrarian is cool with things but I kind of was expecting him to suggest throwing me out the window.

@@CrankyTemplar bro is gonna throw you out the window along with the knives LOL

​@@cdcopycat997 No wonder Contrarian is the best character 😂

They are so beautiful even the contrarian cries in the stranger-reset

Thanks for letting me know! I can probably get that together soon-ish.

@@CrankyTemplar Yeah, there are three versions of the Slay the Princess, Reset, and Leave endings: The three-headed Stranger, the more cynical and wary non-Stranger (bring the knife into the basement on your first pass), and the friendlier and kinder non-Stranger (go into the basement without the knife on your first pass). Godhood, "Good" Ending, and the No Vessels endings don't seem to have any variations.

Much appreciated! There's a good number of variants for this so not too surprised I missed something.

@dylanmah7791 @thomashooper2451 Okay, after replaying I see that the permutation with not bringing the knife for the first meeting is actually done for slaying her with the "everyone hates you" ending, but I missed it for the reset and leave endings. I'll upload those two variants shortly and update the description. Thank you both for pointing it out - I thought I had noticed different dialogue but didn't connect the dots for the other two endings.

It's the princess you met first, and it's possible to meet the Stranger first because then you never meet her in chapter 1

Partly because it’s not a variant you managed to interact with much, and partly because it’s arguably the closest to what the Mound is perhaps?

When you go to meet the post god princess its the same cabin as the first meet with the princess. Most cases you meet her with just Nar and Hero. But if the first meeting with the princess is after telling the narirator to get bent and letting the world burn... He is the only other voice to join the player and hero on a first meet.

Well, it’s because the ending is supposed to be like the first time you met The Princess, and in The Stranger route, she’s already changed by the time you meet her… And.. I think The Voice of The Contrarian kind of needed that. The ending just feels like it completes his character. But… I do agree I wish there was more with the other Voices.

Facts

I think it is the best ending.

@@poleve5409 oh yeah I just found out about it thanks 👍

Thorn princess is the best

Fauna got two i dont know if you mean the first one. The ending ending is not different, both leave in godlike form, but when the vessels start talking it can be very different because it depends on your choices before. Basically, to trigger that ending as the description says you just need to have gather 5 vessels, but there are many of them probably like 10-15 variations. Their dialogue also changes based on what you did but it ends the same way

Wonder if the Godhood ending counts as Neutral or Good? You're together, and you're breaking the cycle... but at the expense of the multiverse.

well way i see it that ending isn't actually the "ending", the ones after it are.@@HowlingWolf518

i dont think any of the endings are bad, you get to chill with the boys forever

She's just the concept of change itself. You're the concept of stasis. Like, actually on a cosmic scale, you're those things. That's part of what makes the game aggravating on an abstract level and part of why the SMT franchise games can be unfulfilling. As there are endings in those games that deals in sweeping abstract concepts like "harmony" or perfect universal "isolation." They're philosophical pieces that aren't meant to have right/wrong answers, but only interpretations. The problem with that is that there are no examples of what those universes look like, so your interpretations are often meaningless navel-gazing. You don't actually _know_ what a universe without change looks like. Putting aside that I think Platonic idealism is a complete load of bunk, that's not something the mind of a mortal can comprehend. Sure, she's death, but she's also growth. Is there any meaning in a life which doesn't change? What does a universe like that even look like? Are you even really a person, if you can't change, or are you just a robot or perhaps basically just another rock at that point? In point of fact, because you're basically the concept of stillness, are you also not the stillness of the grave that comes after death? It seems mightily naive to think that just destroying change itself as a concept would be smart, because the universe could just be an unvarying infinite black and it's also not changing. In a way, that's a sort of death, because it sure as hell isn't life. The game frames the two of you as a duality, which is why your character sees her as a lover or princess to be treasured. Because the ideal of stability or peace is meaningless without change to define it and vice versa. You've both been dancing around each other for a long time like this. And near as I can tell, a wizard, in their desperation sought to bind you two and rashly tried to coerce you into killing the other for a chance at eternal life. If he really wanted to end death, or at least buy time for his universe, it would've been wiser to petition you to create universes full of mercy, because as the concept of limits itself, you _could_ hypothetically limit the princess to universes that were only merciful, while still allowing for a variety of changes and transformations to be possible in them. You could, as the infinite stillness, demand only universes where eternal youth were possible. It is within your rights to set those limits as a god. She is the infinite potential for form, but your perception defines her form.

@@ved2360please write my college essays for me😂

@@ved2360 I mean, you're literally the sole god of reality for the changeless universe. It'd simply be creating a clockwork universe where all change and entropy is accounted for, and there is no such thing as true entropy because you control it. Or any way you imagine the universe to be. The real question to me, I think, was always whether you wanted to be a god alone, or with another.

i think there is a moment like that in the wraith route where she possesses your body after you kill her and she just talks to all the voices and the narrator

I probably should have made a note about it but slaying the princess before going to the cabin the final time won't work.

That's the Apotheosis Route, which you get by going to the Tower Route, taking the knife, trying to resist, and then following her command to kill yourself.

Possibly, although I may not have time.

That my headcannon

Non-stranger leave ending

Every time you finish a route (except the first time) you know the voices accompanying you will disappear. If you say "this is the end for you but not for me" they won't particularly like that and the ending where you truly slay the princess and they return they'll be a bit pissed off.

Oh also wdym by razor routes?

Razor/Stranger and so on are what the game calls the routes. The narrator is a mortal who wanted to stop death in his dying world and split you and the princess apart. He then commit suicide to be an echo to guide you into slaying the princess to create a world without death. The multiple headed princess in the ending is from having your first route be the Stranger.

There are some routes that end with both of you dying, such as attacking the Witch or trying to run. Both Grey chapters pretty much end that way. But the routes themselves aren't an ending that brings you to the credits.

Doubtful, as I'll have work for a good chunk of the day. I'm intending to upload some spooky games for that day if all goes well. I think at the new year I'll start thinking to what extent I want to stream again. Apologies if that's not an ideal answer.

@@CrankyTemplar No worries!

Wow this meme still exist

Pretty much.

@@CrankyTemplar cool beans

nutshell, two god lovers trapped in some random cabin trying to continue their honeymoon to destruction of the universe but cockblocked by this crow echo dude

​@@Kaz-td2yg ahh okay. so godhood is their true forms. wait the destruction of the universe is their honeymoon? That's wild lol.

@@TheBroGamer14082 basically lol, but I think the leave ending in the cabin is basically abandoning their godhood together and live with the normal people beyond outside their construct

Good sir, both the description and the pinned comment mention this and link to a video with the missed variants.

@@CrankyTemplar Apologies for missing that ~v~

@@fooltheroyal8691 No worries, just pointing out that others made me aware when I uploaded this and I went back to upload them. Once the Pristine Cut releases I'll be sure to have everything in one video.

I believe it's titled Transformation in the soundtrack.

@@CrankyTemplar Sorry, I mean the part where the Player and Princess leave the world and step into the Infinite part. Cuz, I haven't found that in the game soundtrack.

​@@The_Unknown_Writer--5799I think it's reusing The Apotheosis but I'm not sure

@@kassiaactuallydraws9361 It is the Apotheosis

When a route ends and you're at the mirror tell the voices it's the end for them but not for you. Do this enough times and opt to slay the princess at the end and they won't be happy.

Nice! There's actually two versions of that ending (the missed endings video shows the other version) depending on whether you bring the knife to your first meeting with the princess or not.

@@CrankyTemplar I didn’t bring the knife our first meeting. When I said I was sorry for the pain I caused her, she said she should be the one apologizing cause she slit my throat first encounter 🤣

Ok

The first route you complete needs to be the Stranger route. So start a new game and in Chapter 1 refuse to go to the cabin. In Chapter 2 you'll have no choice but to go to the cabin. Just keep asking the princess questions to fracture her.

When doing a playthrough, make the stranger your first princess you visit when doing your loops. What happens is that when you go to the heart of the Shifting Mound, the cabin and the princess you'll see in the endings are the first ones you meet. If the Stranger Ending is your first princess, you meet the Stranger first, because you never met her as the normal princess yet, because you avoided her in the first loop and when Ch. 2 hits, the Stranger is the first time you encounter the princess.

Keep refusing to join the Princess after completing five routes until the Voice of the Hero brings you to the cabin. Enter the basement without the knife and your only option will be to leave with her. If your first route wasn't the Stranger then she'll won't be the stranger type princess (but her dialogue will be different based on whether you brought the knife on your first route or not).

There's two variants with dialogue depending on whether your first visit with the Princess was with carrying the knife or not in addition to the Stranger version.

@@CrankyTemplar yes but I mean the princesses themselves, no wrath or ghost or chimera? I assume they are stuck within the diety themselves?

Yes, they're stuck inside the deity and don't show up at the cabin.

When finishing a route and approaching the mirror tell the voices that it's the end for them but not for you. They won't like that. You get the option after completing a second route onward.