I even asked the Director if Heroin Bob was based off of that movie and bad news, he was based off of someone he knew. The director was on a live video on facebook
I realized that Steveo was always meant to be a lawyer. If you think about. This whole movie is like a lawyer making an opening argument in a court case.
I lived in Utah in the late 90s. I was miserable. This movie came out when I got to high school. I cant express how liberating this movie was for me at the time. Special place in my heart for SLC punk.
He wasn't really ranting about the British. Just Americans riding the British punk wave to the point that they'd even fake the accent and clothing. When the entire point of Punk was to not conform and just do. Could have worn a raincoat, pink slippers, and a Scooby Doo decoder ring. As long as you partied hard. Fought hard. Fucked hard. And Rocked out harder.
Exactly. People call me a “punk accountant” because I would come in clothes I didn’t care about, had a harness bag with narcs and me and my friends stuff, and glasses. But all the New York hardcore legends treated me like family and no one could talk shit about me. When I saw this movie his character made me proud to not look like everyone else. I’m me expressing myself, that’s what punk is
@@PLNKYELLOWBLACK hell ya man, I NEVER dressed like a punk, shit I would have polo shirts on while thrashing and shit, just a lifstyle and a state of mind man.
@@edwarddailey21 To be fair, anyone "dressing like a punk" was just ripping off UK's street punk fashion. The American punk scene was mostly just a t-shirt and jeans.
But at the same time. We can’t choose the environment we are born into. We can be born rich or poor and still feel like outcasts and try to break the mold in our own lives
This was such a great movie, the writers either lived here or really did their research on SLC because they had it down perfect. Too bad the second movie wasn't nearly as good. I was born and grew up in the heart of SLC and I was friends with a lot of gutter punks in downtown when I was younger. This is still my favorite movie and not just because it's about my city but because of the humor and story it tells that perfectly encapsulated salt lake and the people in it.
Omg the second movie was so horrible. The first one seemed like it was telling a real life story about a part in time that actually happened in these guys lives. I was like 20 minutes into the second movie before I had to stop because the acting was so bloody horrible and obviously just copying the exact same script style as the first one lol, and the story of the emo kids at the beginning trying to like, “take the reigns” from the punks fuckin pissed me off haha 😂 I loved Heroin Bob so much in #1… he just annoyed me in #2 lol.
@@Vikanuck his son in #2 seemed like he was trying too hard to be his dad. I only liked Shaun in the second. I was really bummed that Mathew Lillard wasn't in the second movie at all. I also noticed how they made the girl that was with them look and seem just like the girls that Mathew Lillard met in the first movie. It was just a knock off of the first one. The first one had the cottonwood mall in the opening of the movie and that mall isn't even a mall any more. It had so much of my childhood incorporated into it.
Yeah it's weird going back years and years later and realising certain characters were actually notable people, you just didn't remember they were in something this far back that you had already seen.
this is so funny 'cause I remember when I watched this as a teenager I was like "hell yeah this guy's on to something" and now I'm all "damn this guy's a jackass."
Dudes ashing in their pockets gave me the weirdest nostalgia moment. Didn't even realize it's been forever and a gd day since I've seen anyone do that. Weird thing to remember fondly but it was the people doing it and the places it was done that remind me of fun.
@@ronnyynnor2026 lmao have you never been invited to a party at a nice house? Or been in a bar that allows smoking inside but has a nice wood floor? I'd ash in my pockets out of respect for the trees that died and the carpenter that laid the boards if it's as nice as some of the old bars around me. Rest assured it's not to be cool or anything, just taking care of other people's stuff like I'd want 'em to take care of mine if they were in it.
This movie was genius for its time. For a kid who grew up in a punk scene, it was important to see that it was a flawed lifestyle and that we all just need to grow up (to an extent 😉)
"This shirts illegal in several states" He was supposed to be wearing a Hawaiin shirt but that guys a huge celebrity in Germany and wouldn't be caught dead wearing a Hawaiian shirt 🤣🤣🤣 That's why that joke doesn't make sense 🤣🤣🤣
@@SpychoPete Not necessarily that he was never punk. I think it was just that punk like a lot of other things is kind of nebulous. The older you get the harder it is to keep rebelling, which is part of being punk for a lot of kids.
@@Aster_Risk To me its a combination of things but too often it's bogged down in specifics as qualifiers, a band like the Damned had it right (musically).
I don't and have never lived in SLC, but I live in a strange area where the SLC punks move after they got tired of SLC. The thing that impressed me most about this movie growing up was just how accurate to the dirty ghetto kids of even my area, a fair distance away. I *knew* a stevo, I was Sean basically, and I've met. So. So. SO. many bobs.and they were all like that, really. Burnt out and fried kids who ran away to live in abandoned drug filled buildings to escape whatever was going on at home. They were angry, messed up kids with issues who were severely misunderstood by their world and family. Half the kids I would meet at these basement shows would openly admit to me, a complete stranger, that no one who cared about them had a single damn idea about where they could possibly be right now, and if they disappeared, they would never be found. They were proud of it even. A lot of those kids did disappear. One minute they would he there, rocking out in the pit, and the next they were never seen again. I tell this story if only to say, parents, please listen to your kids. Talk to them, help them with their problems. I've seen so many poor sweet babies lifeless on the floor of someone else's basement over the most minor problems at home. If your kid is doing something you don't understand, or behaving in a way you don't like, don't fight them. You will lose your child forever. RIP Heroin Bob.
Are you happy with your purchase? Thats some punk ass corporate hand off type shit. Put your horns down! Go steal Fight Club or Josie and the Pussycats. Redeem yourself.
This movie shaped the best punks IMO, was super real and didn't really hold back. And for sure instilled the better aspects of the screen you don't find in the newer generation of punks
Go read get in the van. Rollins describes how intensely violent, self destructive, and depressing the punk life was during its peak of hardcore. This movie is cool but it missed alot of realities to it
back in the 00s, i loved this movie...even dyed my hair blue (amongst many colors) because of Stevo, it was this day that i realized, holy fawk, Jason Siegel was that character in this movie! time to rewatch this as a 37 year old XD
I appreciate the scene that this movie grasped. It was a moment in time that has since been mimicked but never truly revived. It took a certain age during a certain time. Commercialism ran rampant and consumed people in the 80s. This was the kids reaponse to the "Just say no" "purchase purchase purchase" mentality. It cannot be revived because we are all consumed at this point. "I agree to the terms and conditions of you selling my data but I'm gonna complain about the state of things, much like these celebrities on The View" just doesn't work
@@dylanroemmele906 Its hard when we are all consistely falling for scams and ignoring the actual conspiracys that are happening in plain sight. The modern punks seem more like activists of some sort. That all good and fine but identity politics and pc culture don't really match the punk scene of before. I'm not saying punks have to be bigots, they just shouldn't care that much and we are all selling our info to major corporations on these apps. That's very not punk
@@KarklinPumpkin I love seeing people like you who pretend that punk is only for people who hate social justice and are complete dickheads. You want it to match your views so you ignore all the punks who were against sexism, racism, and making people feel excluded from the scene. I guess you'll believe whatever you have to in order to avoid growth and responsibility.
@@KarklinPumpkin i believe it was Danzig who said Punk rock couldn't be a thing today because ppl are too sensitive. Cancel culture, identity politics all that crap goes completely against what I thought punk was supposed to be about. Granted, I was never a punk rock guy (I was more of a metal head) but I had quite a few friends who were in the punk scene and we'd have discussions about all kinds of shit (kinda like Steve-o and the one guy do later in the movie)
@@jbellflower83 They also took the iconic looks like shaved and unnatural colored hair with huge tattoos and normalised it. Now nobody cares if you look like punk rockers of old, it literally means nothing.
This movie had such unique and interesting Characters. Mark and Mike are my favorites but no one person is alike and its great at adding to the story. "So Mark, whats up old man?" "FUCK!" lol...
Remember when punk was about rebelling against authority and not bitching about posers and ranting about scenes in a mall? Damn that was a long time ago.
Wow, am I seriously the ONLY person to ever comment on this fucking AMAZING scene from a fucking AMAZING movie?!? That’s a major shame. This movie should be in the back of every single persons mind who grew up in the 90’s punk scene. Unfortunately, we all have to grow up though. But fuckin hell this movie still holds water and makes me just want to say fuck it all again and go back to my old ways lol.
@@iamthepapi7251 Aww I remember when losers used to use that word to try and elevate themselves above those they saw as “less punk than them” 😂 Good memories. Thanks 👍
I was never Punk. But I loved this movie, because there were people that were Punk. Actual Punk, not Posers. And they saw a janked system, and they had real rage against it. And a very few of them rose up to do great things and impact change. More change is needed. There is always a place in an imperfect society for Punks.
There was a time when I went to local shows twice a week. All in all I eventually realized we're all posers looking for an easy way out. Read get in the van by henry rollins. For its peak of hardcore in early 80s it was truly violent, self destructive and depressing without all the consumerist bs. The scene today is completely stale compared to its peak.
I love the focus on individuality in this movie. Each one is different like Stevo being a viewer and critic of punk and those around though he himself is a poser of sorts u til he finds his true calling in the end, Heroin Bob and his dislike of drugs being a contradiction to what people think of a punk doing in general, Mike not dressing the part but being the part, Sandy sporting a goth look and loose lifestyle fucking who she pleases, Trish being a counter to her with a reserved and more poetic personality resembling a sophisticated like attitude. The characters are so diverse and so different just like you’d find at a real punk gathering. They just all fit in their own midget way.
@@Dave_Lakin well even though Converge Is considered “hardcore” to me they still resonate heavily as Punk and their music Is some of the fastest, hardest, most passionate stuff out there. That’s why most punks that are true Punk eventually get Into hardcore like Weekend Nachos and Counterparts exc… the Intensity and passion Is like Punk 2.0
My first punk show was in a dirty little venue called The Cobalt, RIP, everyone called me a poser cos I wasn't wearing a jacket with patches all over and ripped pants. I was confused cos I always thought that there was no real punk since it was about being independent and raw, making a stand against the tide, but I was wrong. This was in 2013 long after real punk died but I still loved it, I drank, I was in every pit and started a few, I stage dived, hooked up with the hottest chick I saw, big mohawk, long legged, bruised knuckled, fuck off chick, stole whiskey for some guys who couldn't get in the show, and stopped a fight between two old dudes reliving the golden days, did my first bump of coke that night. By the end I didn't care what people thought cos I had the time of my life, went home bruised and drunk and woke up for school the next day and date with that girl.
That's what punk is all about. Not giving a fuck about what anyone thinks and living your life how YOU want to do it. Only real posers think you have to dress a certain way or act a certain way to be "punk."
My first punk show in 2001 was literally the funnest night of my entire adolescent/teenage years, not only that but it was verbal abuse who are legendary and was in the live music capitol Austin TX.
@@MrSqurk yes that was part of the whole point of the film, being punk isnt a look or what music u listen to etc. its a mentality. Jasons character didnt need to be punk by dressing like one, he had the spirit of one and thats all that matters.
I wouldn't claim to have ever been punk (especially with most people's definition of punk), but my favorite punk bands looked more like computer nerd dorks than punks.
@@mao3394 didn't really get into them. I'm thinking of East Bay Ray and Klaus Floride from DK, Husker Du, the Wright brothers from Nomeansno, D. Boone from Minutemen at a few points.
It's fun. But getting deep into it was truly self destructive and depressing as a result. I realized everyone at the scene were posers except the bands who contributed the sound week after week.
Thats whats so special about this movie. Not only are the graphics cool and beautiful. But this character is also breaking the fourth wall, connecting to the audience.
