SLEIGH RIDE PARTY 1897 Columbia Brown Wax Christmas Cylinder Played on EAGLE Graphophone Phonograph 

I love old things! I love fixing them and making sure they work as they did many years ago. But sometimes I like keeping them aged to show how special they are.

Kartul2 I do and I just turned 14

I have to say, these old recordings are a part of history, and should not be forgotten. Thank you for sharing, now younger generations can enjoy them for many years to come.

i’m an antique clock and phonograph collector woth many more types of antiques i collect. i’m 13. yes it’s sad that it’s so rare to see people who care about these things.

I’m young and a casual enjoyer of them. Since I don’t own records and other old things, I just plan on putting some of my favorite old songs into a midi and score video.

Isn’t that the truth? I’ve always liked this kind of hands-on history over dry textbooks.

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Repent and trust in Jesus. He's the only way. We deserve Hell because we've sinned. Lied, lusted stolen, etc. But God sent his son to die on the cross and rise out of the grave. We can receive forgiveness from Jesus. Repent and put your trust in him. John 3:16 Romans 3:23❤😊❤❤

Wonderful it's like a time machine. I'm só glad to see and listen it in 2022!

Len Spencer 1867-1914.

You know, I never thought of it that way, and it is one.

Repent and trust in Jesus. He's the only way. We deserve Hell because we've sinned. Lied, lusted stolen, etc. But God sent his son to die on the cross and rise out of the grave. We can receive forgiveness from Jesus. Repent and put your trust in him. John 3:16 Romans 3:23❤😊❤😊

Wow, American education system in nutshell.

Yea! If someone was in their 70s on this recording, they were technically alive 200 years ago! That’s so cool

At last! Someone else who knows From Tin Foil to Stereo. There is a modern edition, which is supposed to be a big improvement on the old one. The modern edition is awful compared to the old one. Stick with the one from 1959.

The physical record, sadly won't be around then, brown was is very prone to molding, and it's a matter of when and not if. If kept in a room with minimal humidity it'll help, but it'll still happen. In 120 years there probably will be no brown wax left, except for maybe some in museams and those recorded in the modern day.

Also, how do you clean a wax cylinder? Does the max have a high melting temperature?

rush b

The typical speed for wax recording cylinders is 120RPM

It's not Arthur Collins.

They also would dub them pantographically, which is basically a combination cutter/player to transfer the vibrations directly from a master, but I don't think they did that until about 1900.

The master cylinder was made a larger tpi, 97 1/3 tpi for 100 tpi product, or 194.6 for a four minute record, it is recorded on a studio phonograph, at the time An Edison Triumph (a model up from the one used, the Home was $30.00 and the Triumph $50.00) and the recorder floated on the record, called a trailing recorder, it had an advance ball, and super sensitive gaskets and diaphragm, you could manually change the depth of cut, the machine also had a flywheel for smoother speed. Next the cylinder master is put on a mandrel in a vacuum. The top of the mandrel has an iron disc, and a huge magnet spins around the outside of the bell jar. Also in the bell jar is two strips of pure gold, the wires lead to an induction coil (about 10,000 volts DC), the magnet is spun by a motor, the cylinder spins inside the jar, the induction coil energized. The gold molecules want to go from one leaf to the other; however the master is in the way, it gets a thin coating of gold, making the non conductive metallic soap master conductive to electricity now. The master is put in a holder, and attached to a motor, and put in a tank of copper sulfate, distilled water, and a little sulfuric acid, the master has a wire and a copper brush connected to it, and then anodes of copper, as the record turns, a shell of copper forms around it. After about a 1/16" of copper forms around the master, it is put on a lathe, and the thin end trimmed until the end of the cylinder is seen, and then put in an ice box, the wax master shrinks leaving the grooves in the metal cylinder master mould. The master mold is used to make mother cylinders, and these plated to make working molds. A machine had a heater, and the moulds heated until about 120F, then they were put down a chute, an automatic charger, squirted 130 grams of 290 F molten, liquid, hard, black, aluminum metallic soap and wax into the mold. The mold whirls down the machine, which is long enough for the wax compound to cool enough to retain it's shape, on 3 rubber rollers, the machine is slanted downward. The molds then are put on a lathe, with water cooled tools that make ribs on the inside, a taper to fit the mandrel, and trim the thin end and cove it. After this they are put in a water cooled cage the copies shrink out of the mold, and then put on warm (100F) metal cores on boards, the cores are long enough for these to be stacked in a warm room. After two hours the metal cores are pressed out with a hand press and the records are ready to box and ship. This process was used about 1902, previous to this, blanks were made and recorded upon like above, or were put on a pantagraph machine, that had a recording and playback stylus, a master cylinder on the top and blank on the bottom the master played with a sapphire ball, and the copy cut with a round scoop shaped sapphire. the weights and springs copied the grooves from one record to another.

Sorry the above explanation was for Edison and Columbia Moulded records made after 1902. These brown metallic soap records (1889-1901) were made by the pantagraph as stated above, or were recorded by the round, the artist sang into the horns of several recording phonographs, vibrated a .005-.0085" glass diaphragm held in natural rubber gaskets, on the bottom of the recorder diaphragm is a .039" sapphire recording stylus or knife, when sounds hits the diaphragm, it vibrates to the frequency and amplitude of the sound, and a feed screw drives the head along the record, making the groove spacing. The record is brushed off, boxed and sent to dealers. On my channel is the full chemical composition of these cylinders made, and shows the master recorder cutting the brown wax records. I make the compound (aluminum soap) and mould the blank records, shave and record upon them.

@@thenorthamericanphonograph1039 That is a remarkable explanation! Thank you. I had no idea the process was once so complex.

They sell a reproduction of this exact cylinder on Vulcan records www.vulcanrecords.com/shop/brown-wax-era-records/sleigh-ride-party/ if you live in the U.S the total cost of record and shipping is about $85

+dalekman tardis No. Depends how old and how rare they are. On average ive seen Edison cylinder phonographs run around £250 - £500 and 1920's - 30's disc gramophones for around the same price.

Dang. Maybe I'll find one at a garage sale someday.

You'd be very lucky. I'd recommend antique fairs. Are you after a cylinder machine or a flat disc (record) machine?

Any of them.

Portable gramophones are probably best and cheapest for starters. But remember these things are old and will probably require some work if you want them to play nicely.