well I mean they are talking in the bird's internal the whole time but yeah. when you do something a lot and you're good at it, troubleshooting comes naturally. Coming from an Army Aviator.
Lotta people complaining about this being too slow or simplified, comparing it to systems that have big auto loaders and such on planes... But the reason the Apache is designed like this? You can land a helicopter on any flat piece of dirt, use normal people with no equipment to reload it, and send it on it's way again. It makes the apache more versatile, not requiring all the crazy amount of infrastructure like most modern weapon systems require. And if it takes a while to load one gunship, that's fine because there's more support capable of filling the gap while one is in service. Its the same principle right down to squad level infantry tactics, and no matter how sophisticated we are sometimes the simplest solutions just work better.
except these squires cant really become knights, if I remember correctly but otherwise, yeah, and instead of an armorer they have an entire engineering crew
ShadowsClaw 24 the fuck you talking about? Yes they can. Anyone in the military can become a pilot as long as they have a high enough gt score and meet the physical requirements and pass woc and flight school.
This is why I love youtube ! Today I watched a tutorial on how to weave a basket, cook a perfect steak, and load 30mm ammo into an Apache combat helicopter. Thank you so much !
From what I understand, this wasn't just reloading the gun but dealing with a jammed weapon. They don't usually have to break open the gun itself nor plug in to override the safety like that. I'm also pretty sure they don't take out fed ex boxes during a live mission nor just load in 44 rounds when the weapon holds 300+
I also looks as if they had an issue with the loading mechanism since they had to resort to manually 1 by 1 hold and align those auto fed like stripper clips that came out the ammo box. That was pure skill and problem solving at it's best from highly trained and skilled soldiers from the guys on the ground tot he pilots in the seats. Love it!!!
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Great video. Good to see how the grunt work that keeps these machines working happens. The pilots & gunners get the most airtime on RU-vid, but as any airman knows, there is a lot of work done to make a mission happen. The refueles, re-armers, and maintenance people work long hours in often appalling conditions to keep the aircraft serviceable. Great job to all. Greatest respect.
I'm a former Air Force weapons loader (462X0) I'm so jealous of you Army guys, there is no way we could have gotten away with putting extra rounds in our pockets, not torque wrenching or safety wiring everything. I love how you guys place more emphasis on turning that aircraft and getting it back into the fight! Go Army.
The PMCS protocol is all there still. Of course a lot of those rules are situational. Are you really going to take 30 minutes to pmcs by the book when someone could be dying?
Lucas Maselli You would be surprised how insanely hidebound the Air Force is when it comes to placing safety over reality. One of the principle reasons I got out. Their slavish devotion of procedure over efficiency is Kafka-esque in its hideousness.
Joel Z. Williams same with the marines, man. Even in the infantry. But shit is a little different on deployment. I do understand why it's so stupid when you're in the rear though. It's so we can learn the proper way to do things. Then when you're out operating, you can place reality and safety on the same level. That's the theory at least. Doesn't always workout like that though.
Alex510 In the Air Force I once got a scolding for not checking the fullness of a fire-extinguisher near an aircraft I had just checked 15 minutes earlier. The same kind of safety absurdity as practiced by the sunglasses wearing observers of early atomic bomb testing era. "Here, don't worry about the exposure to the radioactive fallout, but you better be sure to wear these darkened goggles."
You what really surprised me here, that instead of walking towards the Apache he just stood there and the Apache was the one who slowly flew over where he was and landed as carefully as a butterfly.
How can you joke on that ? I mean didn't you see the video of the 10 unarmed innocent journalists being shredded from an Apache with precisely this kind of rounds ? And then the father and his children coming with his car to pick up the wounded and bring them to a hospital while on his way to put his kids to school, receiving a bunch of "freedom" until nothing is left but the bloody body of his kid in the arms of the guy trying to save him ? Freedom pill ? Its like a German in WWII saying "them are some good race purity pills", I mean wtf ? Its disgusting. And then you pussies are all like "don't hate us, hate our government" well you are what you do. You're all nazi's. Here nazis we cut their balls and put them in their mouth before we shoot them. That's the only cure for nazism. A bullet through the head. Hitler gave the example, why don't you people follow it ?
Adrien Perié Satire. It's satire. Don't get all worked up about it. I don't support war either. Take a joke... you know, like some other group took a joke.
Bombalurina05 Yeah but you have to admit, saying freedom pill is funny when you don't think about it too much, but what it reveals about the person saying it worries me. It means people have accepted the fact their government wages horrible illegitimate illegal wars under the fake pretext that its done for democracy or freedom, while its as usual for the profit of a few dominant men at the very top. The only other explanation is that you believe these wars really are waged for freedom and democracy, in which case you aren't a cynic, just naive about the current world situation (which isn't an insult).
The clips are supposed to work in theory if you look closely at the auto loading rotater thing, though it seems they couldn't get the helicopter to strip them so they had to hand strip the clips themselves
Just like any other vehical in the military its second hand job is postal carry. My dad's sub carried packages all the way to Korea when they were patrolling off of a certain country during Iraqi freedom. They went in for repairs after stopping at port in yet another certain country before heading to Japan for repairs were they made a detour to a Korean/Japanese international harbor where they passed it onto some airmen.
imagine landing and say : "aight here your delivery" another man : "ok here your payment" * gives 30mms * delivery man : "aight have a good day" * flies out *
"Thou shalt not be exposed within 100 yards of a single Marine. Because they'll mistake it for crayons, and we'll have no cool shit left to shoot the enemy with."
WARNING: WHILE LOADING, DO NOT DROP POINTY END DOWN. I love how the whole operation hinges on them not losing the crescent wrench with which to crank the shells in. Crescent wrenches were made to lose..
This was a great vid, the trust the pilots have in you guys, the teamwork, the insight into just one tiny process of thousands to keep a machine like this operable is so cool! Thanks for the upload :)
I was in the USAF for 25 years, our career field was Aircraft Armament Systems Specialist. We loaded/unloaded all the munitions on fighter/bomber aircraft and did all the maintenance on the Bomb Racks, Rocket/missile launchers, gun systems, etc, we were called Weapons Troops back then, 462's now 2W1's (career field number/MOS for you soldiers). I worked on F-111E's, F-4's of all series, Reccy F-4's, OV-10'S A-10'S, F-15C/D/E STRIKE EAGLES, F-16'S, and B-1's.Loaded several millions of pounds of munitions over those years. Even after making rank and being a shop chief I still got myself qualified to load the training munitions, flares, rockets, AIM-9 missiles, 20mm/30mm ammo. We even loaded/maintained the M-60 machine guns on the OV-10 Bronco aircraft. I hated the office and wanted to be on the flightline with my troops, helping them we were short handed, not answering phones and stupid questions from 2nd Lt's fresh out of the Academy (you know who you are)!!! Even worked on some Navy aircraft when the diverted to our base in the sand box. When I was stationed in the Republic of Korea (South Korea) we worked on South Korean F-4's, OA-37's, F-5's and F-16's, Worked on the A-10 up at Eielson AFB Alaska and we pumped thousands of rounds of 30mm in them puppies. Even though this is an army video it brings back lot's of great memories. Thanks for the video and your service.
Thank you for your Service! My dad was born in 43' so not sure if you are anywhere near his age or not. He served in the USAF on Okinawa and loaded munitions on aircraft. If i remember correctly he said they had B-1's constantly in circulation but not sure the reason. He was there during Vietnam but didn't go mainland. Have a great day and thanks again.
Frank, can you explain the color code of these rounds? I know black is armor piercing and yellow is usually high explosive, but I've never seen an AP-HE round....I've seen AP-I or HE-I in 30 mm.
Kyubii Meos the kind you gotta unscrew the door on and feed the beers in one by one so they get launched out at you when you want one, what kind of fridge do you have!?
Sean Monaghan I was thinking the same thing--it's a very cumbersome process for something that is so routine (and might need to be done in a big hurry, in the dark, etc). The fact that you have to manually remove each round from the clip is ridiculous.
Tim Iafolla its not always done like that, those black trays can be fed into the bird too with the rounds still on it. the bird will strip the rounds from the tray and spit the tray out on the other side of the loader. sometimes the rounds don't sit right in the tray though, and it jams the system. so occasionally, they'll just take rounds off the tray and do it like you saw in the vid.
+RingSight91 a tunguska style system loads bullets as a tokyo wagon does people in rush hour, this should be the same. I think at first part of the vid it tries to make an autoloader work and it does not and so starts th 1 , 1 loading procedure.
+Evil Pumpkinman I've seen the result of being hit by a few of these little bad boys. the only thing they were capable of doing was bleeding out in the fetal position.
Interesting video there. I assume that was a gunship coming in for a hot reload of ammo and then back out to do more close ground support. As a 0311 grunt myself it gave me a greater respect for our own air wingers and the Army etc..Aviation Ordinance...you know what I mean. You could see the care these guys take in maintaining that gun...that gun that will be a great help to some grunt. Those 30 cal shells are devastating. The views from those gun cams above don't do them justice. From the ground it looks like a small cal mortar going off but coming in at super sonic speed. I was always glad these were on our side...they can see what is just ahead and all around you and be your eyes and big brother. A 10 Pilots are my personal favorite. Those guys fly so low you feel the heat from the engines. Always liked all those Pilots ..but you have to like the guys who maintain the weapons etc too....feel the love POGs' ..hehe
Allen Cowan Caliber is just the internal diameter of the barrel and can be used in different measurement systems. 30 cal is still correct as long as he means 30 mm cal and not 30 inch cal or whatever.
7410n0 exactly....and the purpose of communication is to get the idea across...and you knew exactly what I was talking about it. Allen is correct regardless....the Caliber of that weapon is 30 millimeter.
Seriously, who in the US (other than perhaps mathematicians or engineers) sticks "caliber" after a metric round, regardless of how 'correct' it is? Regardless, omitting "millimeter" from his post leaves an uniformed reader no idea the actual caliber of the Apache's gun. But hey, he's a Jarhead, so I suppose that's understandable. ;) And Spiked, "rounds" are not necessarily "metric determined". The US has long used the English 'Imperial System' for a variety of things, some weapon calibers being one of them. Also, the second number in "30x113" is not the diameter of the casing, it's the height (or length, I suppose). You didn't specify, just wanted to clear that up.
I am almost 100% sure this is FOB Pasab in Afghanistan. I was there in 2013 to 2014 doing the same thing. Watching this video brings great memories of when I deployed with 1 ID. Reading the comments is awesome and brings a different perspective to what we do and how people see it. If only they knew that this is the fun part of our job as ARMT. 🤙🏼
Our gunships in Nam had problems with jamming using belt feed. The XM18 pods where you cranked the rounds in would be de-link as the rounds went into a drum. Very reliable. You had to really be on the lookout for long or short rounds in the belt ammo when reloading. Damn wish we had had 30 mike mike cannons! Good bye Charlie
Fascinating video. We rarely get a look into all the efforts required to prepare these amazing machines to work right. Hopefully the owner of the property hit by those little bullets will have some insurance; they'll probably scratch it up a bit.
you can tell one guy is newer and the other has been doing this for a while. I love the amount of care, work and dedication it takes to do this. It really shows you love your craft.
This is my favorite gun, along with the 20x42mm Neopup. Notice how the Apache m230 chain gun, 30 x 113mm, is linkless, to avoid metal getting sucked into the engine. The ground weapon uses links. Pruno
Man that automatic loading system is sweet, here our ordnance guys are loading cobras with a damn speed handle into our shitty linkless 20mm feed systems.
+MR.Chickennuget 360 I don't know how it compares but it's a solid gun. We had some issues with the linkless feed system when they came out for the AH1W but they are fine on the new AH1Z. I've only seen a few jams in the last year since we converted so for the most part they shoot just fine.
Very cool. Sometimes learning stuff behind the scenes like rations, supplies living conditions are just as interesting as learning about the tactics, weapons and formations.
I love how I see this video at least twice a time every year for the past 4 years in my recommendations. Always gotta stop what I’m doing and rewatch it simply because how badass this is.
I can’t imagine what this guy is going through. He’s working in a desert environment meaning he’s probably very hot in that uniform and he has to go through the procedure of putting the 30mm chain gun on safe and reloading it while talking to the pilot. Shows that the military is not for everyone. But not this guy, he does his job without complaint. Thank you for serving our country.
Finally, a freakin' video worth watching on RU-vid lol. Great job guys. I had the same job in the Navy as an Ordnanceman with F/A 18 Super Hornets and then at Delta Airlines on wide body aircraft (fueling and GPU Cords, ect...). Thanks for your service. 🤘🏻🇺🇲🤘🏻
I was infantry so my job had nothing to do with this. Everything I know is 3rd hand knowledge. Having said that: 1. Aircraft stays on because its faster to get it back out on mission, or they're just topping off so they are ready the next time they go out and they go park it from here. 2. There probably is a faster way but sometimes the mechanics don't work properly, you can see in the video he tried to load the whole clip first and was unsuccessful. 3. Cuz fucking freedom that,s why. 4. He probably just used a GoPro. Not sure if this is sensitive material but its been up for a while so I'm guessing it's fine. I had some Bradley vids back in the day but I lost em all, would love to have put em up.
i'll try to answer your questions the best I can. 1. It is a Hot Pit. This means that the bird stays running to help keep time down. 2. There are a ton of procedures that you have to go through to do anything related with not only ordnance but just about anything hazardous in the military. 3. Because 30mm + Apache = Freedom Boner
Don't you just love seeing someone causally carrying around and handling rounds three times bigger than a middle finger and capable of literally distinguishing a human with a shot to the center of mass?
I was a Marine Grunt, I sure came to love these Army pukes. God knows I hate to admit it, but these Apache guys, the ground crews, aircraft, pilots, you're good to go!
Great video of the unsung heros of our military. The folks behind the machinery that instills fear in the hearts of our enemies. I thank the personnel shown doing their important jobs in this educational video. Much respect.
