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1:03 appears some front wheel bias 2:03 rear wheel bias on the Tesla Each car struggled on the “non-bias” three wheel test however. Pretty equal I’d say.
Because Tesla front motor has less torque than the rear one. And Because it's way easier to control torque with electric motors, EV beats gas cars no argument regardless it's Subaru or Audi.
I have always loved the AWD on the two Subaru Foresters I have owned. I enjoy putting my Subaru’s to the test in mud, sand or snow. That being said I am ready to go full electric and the 220 mile range on the Toyota (Subaru) EV will not cut it. I’m going to go with the long range version of the Cybertruck instead. This test gives me some confidence that Tesla is on the right track with their AWD systems and that the Cybertruck AWD will not disappoint.
That’s it, once my Legacy kicks the bucket and it’s too costly to repair it I’m going to get a Tesla, if they’re still around. I hope they are, but hopefully my car has many more years left
I would love to see a car with 3 locking differentials. That way we can see what the cars are supposed to do. I would think that with 3 locking diffs, the car can come out of 3 rollers. I would also like to see Toyota Land Cruiser, Mercedes G-wagen, Subaru Sti, and Jeep Rubicon.
The thing I love about EV is how the torque can be finessed at low speeds. You can see that the Subaru needs to surge the engine to unstick itself. That is a problem if the car is stuck between a rock and a hard place.
@@jatnierdorta well we gonna have to leave that for elon musk to figure it out.. but if i had more than 1 car that's what i would do. im also waiting for the technology to improve before i buy a ev.. but i'd love to have a tesla right now.. just dont wanna pay for one LOL
Yes, the dual motor is pretty nice. Not quite fair that they didn't use the Subaru nonslip features until the end. Also the dual motor model 3 costs about twice as much. The range of the outback is much higher and you probably don't want to be stuck in the snow in an electric vehicle. Simple solution.... I WANT BOTH!
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers non-slip = X-mode ON + ESP OFF. Outback can handle, but needs those "non-slip" features, which are not so great in normal driving. Tesla uses software and two motors to optimize performance under all driving conditions. Clearly, the Tesla is somewhat better in this test, but once the correct settings were applied for the Subaru, it was fine.
@@jsabanalThe reason is that front axle is mechanically connected with transmission while rear axle is powered by clutch-pack. It's FWD biased system.
It didn't fail, it just needs appropriate setup (X-Mode ON, ESP OFF).
5 лет назад
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers basically it did fail ;) 2.5i does have an open diff at the rear so if you had some Forester S-Turbo or SVX ( yes, almost 30 years old sports coupe) it shouldn't have any issues
@ The same Outback but with diesel engine did very well without any modes switching. Old Forester S Turbo failed: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PnzRqM3FlWA.html
5 лет назад
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Foresters S-Turbo with AT had rear LSD?
For sure it does - there is no time and rpm needed to create it. On the other hand there is not much torque needed in such test and there are classic cars that behave very similar to Tesla.
Tire model and tread depth don't matter when 3 wheels are on rollers and the other one isn't losing traction because it doesn't have enough torque going to it to spin. You could try that argument if it was peeling out, but they show the camera view from both sides and it just isn't spinning at all.
The Outback can take you to places you can only dream of in a Tesla. Limited range, no ground clearance and expensive & long repair times await if a Model 3 is damaged, but for a Subaru that is Tuesday.
Cybertruck is meant to be the offroad tesla, 500 miles of range, much more if you drive slower then 45mph, 16 inch ground clearance with 35 inch tires. 40k for the 250 mile single motor, 70k for the 500 mile range 3 motor drive train, so it competes with Ford Raptors, and if range is a real issue a 240v generator and 10 gallons of gas would be a life saver.
@@miguellopez3392 Yeah, that's a great point. In a couple years, the cybertruck could maybe finally beat the mighty outback. We'll see. Right now, it's about the range, but also cold weather not as good for battery packs. Possibly reducing 500 mi to only 400, which is about same as Tesla. Maybe I should sell my Subaru now, while someone will buy it!
Sadly, almost no vehicles have real, true AWD systems. Subaru does, but it's all open diffs. VW, BMW, Honda, etc have clutch packs that engage. For true AWD, all the wheels need to be driven all the time. You need a center diff, which almost no one makes. STi is the only one I can think of, and even that doesn't have all 3 with LSD.
Legacy R SpecB has differential, 50:50 torque split, rear LSD and is peerless, particuarly in the wet. No car can match my Subaru when the roads are terrible, i leave them all standing and thats only with circa 245bhp
Really?? Saw a Tesla 3 that had spun out of control driving on the downhill freeway to Truckee, CA. If you saw the tires tracks from the snow on the road of the Tesla 3, it was ugly.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers mówię o 2 silnikach elektrycznych, nie połączeniu elektryka ze spalinowym. W hybrydach często jest dosyć skomplikowany układ jezdny, zresztą nie napęd 4wd jest punktem przyciągającym uwagę więc producent się tak nie przykłada do porządnego programowania.
@@piciu256 Zgadza się, ale mając po jednym silniku elektrycznym na oś teoretycznie możliwości są ogromne, a żadne awd tego rodzaju nie jest tak wysterowane jak to w Tesli.
Jestem zdumiony wynikiem testu. Mając Subaru i uważając ich układ napędowy za wzór wpadłem w niemały szok jak zobaczyłem co zrobiła Tesla na teście. Wszystko jednak panowie mi wytłumaczyli.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers It is a valid comparison so people can know how the AWD part compares. Great job. Price/value that's a different thing outside of this channel, so no need to complain about that, it's pure AWD here and we thank you for that.
