Hi;I've watched a lot of your videos,you are very capable running equipment.I've run dozers years ago,just aD4 and 450 JD.I trained on D8,365Komatsu and TD 15 International,never was taught how to do the things you do.I enjoy your videos,keep it up
Good job. We do this in our coal mine with 2 d11's and 2 475's. Always front to back, carrying dirt at least 30' past the coal, then start to ramp up at an easy carry angle. Keep cut down in front almost to the coal to eliminate re-handle. Faster going front to back. Good luck.
It's not hitting the ground its using the quick drop then catching it with the hydraulics. The camera mounted to the center of the rear window amplified the noise making it seem louder than it is.
Phil Park plus he didn’t even have a blade full so it’s just wearing out the bushings in the hydraulic cylinders, so let’s see what you can do and what your expertise is big guy...
This all works better for very large dozers such as 10s and 11s most have twin tilts to roll blade forward a little to load then roll blade back to help carry load and when you as you finish dumping load roll forward helps stuff from sticking to blade, notice he was raising and dropping while dumping load!
Could you guys do some more educational videos on proper techniques for machines? I'd be really interested to learn proper excavator techniques. I know there's a lot that goes on that the untrained eye doesn't see. Thanks for the vids guys!
was that a 9R you're using there, I wish more operators would learn this application in bulk pushing, all I can say is you're doing a good job, fuck what all these other turkeys think.
@vantagetes this is how I was show how to slot dozer, I operant a D6R and I was working with a guy on a D8 and he would do it the worry way, I was able to keep up with him at the start. unit he notice what I was doing and pick up his game. Made me fill good
The difference between him and I is that I chunk up a couple piles of loose then carry all the dozer will push without slippen tracks.I feel I'm getting the most load for the least abuse.....twice the load 4 half the wear...(in a perfect world) YOU? PS I also use tilt to break suction of dirt remaining suck to blade....to each his own
Great vid. personally dont agree with shaking the blade so hard on every discharge but horses for course (that said, all my dozing has been with an excavator not a purpose built machine). One question, when cutting slots, how do you tackle the infill between slots if your clearing a wide site?
Sounds like you just mixed the black dirt in by "boiling it". It takes one cat length to get a full blade of dirt, after that the dirt shouldn't be moving but just carried on the blade. This allows you to get up into second gear and transport the dirt down the slow. If you are rolling dirt off the blade you are just wasting time and fuel. The most dirt any dozer can push is a FULL BLADE. Once you have a full blade you cant push any more so don't waste fuel pushing through windrows.
@vantagetes oh ok, another ? are you planning on taking out that dirt and if so then why dont you use scapers to move the dirt wouldnt that move the dirt quicker or are you just shaping the dirt kinda looks like your building into that hill.
That, boys and girls, is how to properly run a cat. Downhill as much as you can to move the majority of the dirt, clean up the windrows and then a little 2nd gear finishing. Urah, as R. Lee Ermy would say!
@hanratty450 geez some with plenty of clues on here, i gaurantee what Jason is showing is the correct way to do it when circumstances allow, the machine is being used for what it is designed for. What a comment dude
Never seen a dozer hand slam the blade onto the ground every cut 🤦🏻♂️…..Then slam the fuck outta it to get the material to fall off the blade …. You’d be two checked out here abusing that machine like that ….
Watch closely, the blade isn’t hitting the ground. The camera is mounted in the center of the back window so it’s picking up the sound of something shaking when the balance of the machine changes.
Considering you're giving the weight of a D11 carry dozer we can easily conclude that you're an idiot. Rocks don't "come up" unless you flip them up with your blade. Carry on!
Some guys just never get it. You can be operating right next to them and stop and explain and demonstrate. They nod their heads, say they get it, and then go fuck everything up.
This is a good instructive video. Looks like he has some damp clay that's hard to get rid of. Some material is less convenient to deal with. You guys with your smart ass remarks try growing up a little bit. You might learn something.
Really enjoy your videos! I'm working towards a career as a Heavy Equipment Operator or Technician. I've operated a couple Dozers myself with my father, first one was an old '71 Terex 82-40 with the old 2 Stroker Detroit Diesel 8v71N and the second, an '87 Dresser TD-20G with a Cummins L10. Pretty old school compared to the newer Caterpillar equipment. Keep up the great work and videos. :)
I used this technique a few years ago to build one HELL of a pile for a haul truck loadout (using an excavator). They wanted enough for a day or 2 and then rebuild a new pile. By the time I got done that day, it took them 5 days to get rid of it all.
@hanratty450 Actually you're wrong. He works for one of his family members so he is an employee too. I care a lot about the machines in my company as we will run gear out to 40,000+ hours. I doubt Chris has anything over 2,000. I gaurentee there is nothing wrong with anything in this video. I've also been told John Deere uses it to show their clients how to production doze.
I have proven that slot dozing is not the best way.If u keep pushing the windrows instead, u will have a channel in no time.Try to boil over dirt all the way 2 fill area or pile. If your not boiling over dirt stop & go back 4 some more.Start at the highest part of the cut 1st then the furthest point back next.The dirt is always moving forward & not getting as sticky 2 the blade. 2 of us were stripping black dirt.I had smaller tractor, I finished my 1/2 first with this method.
GraderJohn I have actually found this true as well, minus starting at the back if you edge out and catch your windrows from front to back no slot dozing will ever touch the amount of production.
@bloggs692413 Set your blade on the ground as you finish backing up. If you set it on the ground then lift it you're going to leave a hump and start the washboard effect. Other than that it just takes time to get the "feel". Some people will never have it so don't feel bad.
@mstaff657 Do you know how vibration is magnified when a suction cup is placed in the center of a large window? As sound is a wave it gets magnified as well. There's no damage to the machine and this is a safety slope for a 7 meter fill. Once again you're dumbass.
@bloggs692413 Slopes are the same as working flat except the dirt will want to fall downhill (so work top down if you're going sideways). About the only difference from working on the flat is the slope will tell you you're doing it wrong when you end up at the bottom on your lid! Yes for shifting you should de-accel both for gears and direction.
@calboy5858 No dumb questions, only dumb answers. Slot dozing is where your are pushing dirt through a slot or channel. This is extremely effective for moving large amount of dirt quickly, and over a long distance.
We don't need to buy viewers with shirts, they come for the vast wealth of proper operating techniques, tips and tricks. This channel was created for education and we try to keep things lively with the humor.
@theoman69 I teach people all the time. Everyone on my current site I've hired and/or trained on their current machine. Except the rock truck drivers and well...lost cause there haha!
@ToonandBBfan Well depends on what you're doing, I've run a really nice D6R but D8 is a good size for bulking and finishing. Very well rounded machine. Of course you can't beat the wonderful rumble sound of a D11 though.
@calboy5858 Nope just shaping the slope so no one falls off the edge. That vertical wall is right at the end of a street and about 3 feet off someones backyard.
This video was awesome because now I know how slot dozing is done which was a question that I had since I'm totally blind I would not have picked up on that otherwise and I found out that I was doing it and didn't even know it when I was clearing my front steps with my toy caterpillar D11 T my D8 T in my 280 9D
Hi vantagetes, many thanks for the technical detail on "slot-dozing"! I have always wondered why a driver start from seemingly a mile always from the destination dump when pushing dirt? Because as you say, the blade is full inside a few seconds, and it can take maybe 3 minutes or more to reach the dump. Doing it the way you explain makes more sense on several criteria. Less power necessary, more dirt shifted, and its quicker to name but a few. Many thanks for the lesson!
Is it a D9 or a D10 you're drivin' in that video... from inside it's hard to tell wich one!! I already drive a D9, the cab looks really close to the one I had drive.
That depends on blade type and also what you are doing pushing downhill on a big back fill job in a deep cut with a very steep angel decrease cycle time and also you end up moving dirt in the toe that does not need to be moved.
You can argue about shacking the blade all you want. Tomato tamato. This is exactly how to slot push. Maximizing production while conserving fuel and finals by using the effects gravity has on the mass of the dozer. And, saving time as well by not backing all the way up every time. Increases cycle time. All this equals big money. Basically if you back over it. Push it as soon as there's enough for a blade load.
With all do respect vantagetes, I do not mix up materials. But when you hit the windrows, Yes the the dirt is rolling off your blade, but the dirt rolled off closer to the pile than it was. Your way, you have a full blade and everything else stays put. My way you have full blade AND you are advancing more dirt towards pile. I have argued this point over the years and after showing some Awesome operators this method, they change there ways. I am not trying to make enemies. Only trying to help.
it's necessary. if you don't clear the blade of material (especially when you end the push going up-hill) you are carrying a yard of dirt back with you, and dirt will be more likely to really stick hard to the blade and need to be scraped off which greatly reduces efficiency when the dirt can't "boil" on a clean blade
Hello Daniel L, GraderJohn is a name I picked because I enjoy grading. I have graded with dozer's, graders, track loaders, skid loaders, rubber tire loaders, just to name a few. I never said anything about chasing windrows. You center on one, bury your blade as soon as you can and again you have a full blade and your getting dirt rolling off closer to the pile. I have NEVER in 40 years of operating lost with this technique.
Hey GraderJohn your name say's it all... you probably run a grader and not a DOZER. Slot dozing is the best and the fastest way to move material and not chasing your windrows like you do with graders... if you and i would challenge and i would use the slot dozing technique and you do your windrow chasing technique you would lose all the time and that you can take to the bank!!!!
This is a very efficient way of moving dirt. I'm impressed. This looks kind of similar to a small scraper cut layout. Using gravity to load and then coming back to clean up your wind row is a great production method. I do have one thing I could point out without being critical; One trick I like to use is to load my blade and push ahead a few feet, back up and get another load, then I can push all of the dirt I built up in one pass. I have used that technique when I backfill and it works great.
How is that hard on the machine. Those cats are over built. And besides how are you sapposed to get the material stuck to the blade off with out shakin the blade?
Excellent work! This is the best concept and execution of "Slot Dozing" that I have seen and heard. I am definitely going to refer this vid to folks that do apprentice training for my local. Once again man, well done.
