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Slow mo Paster on a Goss Metroliner web press.

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@randyvaultonburg5249
@randyvaultonburg5249 5 лет назад
17 years tending roll a variety of machines. Started out as an inkman/roll tender on a 16 page double- ender heatset web letterpress. Worked on a 12 unit 32 page heatset web letterpress after that, then 48 and 96 page gravure presses and a few web offset full and half web presses both conventional and UV. Retired after 35 years and was running an AB Dick 2 colour sheet fed at a small family owned shop at the time. Been around...lol. Cool video.
@AMan-nx3gk
@AMan-nx3gk 6 лет назад
splice pattern
@Edmocci
@Edmocci 6 лет назад
That is called a "flying paster", meaning it brings the new roll up to speed before splicing. The speed of the expiring roll is indicative of the end of roll, and the press computer considers the speed of the press to calculate how much time will be needed to get the new roll spinning at that speed. This determines when the bell rings and the cycle starts. The end of the sheet of the new roll is barely tacked down, such that it will easily break away, and is covered with the green double stick tape. Once the paster cycle has begun, the arms rotate and bring the surface of the new roll to within 2 inches of the running web, and a pre-drive belt drops down and begins to spin the new roll up to press speed (the black mark he places is for an electric eye to determine both the proper surface speed and when to fire the brush/knife). The roll reaches press speed before the old roll is empty, but the press continues to run on the old roll to minimize waste. When there is about 1/4" of paper left on the old core, first a brush presses the expiring web against the new roll which adheres to the double stick tape and breaks the barely tacked down nose, and on the next revolution the knife tears through the expiring web, leaving only the new web. About six newspapers will have double sheets. The tape marker he places hanging off the edge of the roll will stick out on the conveyor, and a person there, watching for it, will pull it and the next five papers, so as not to sell those papers with the splice inside. Most newspapers don't bother, and you may have seen a paper with a splice inside.
@miguelramirez8522
@miguelramirez8522 6 лет назад
Amazing how they do it!!!!,
@shawnroddick7523
@shawnroddick7523 5 лет назад
Our press has silver tape and it automatically drops the splice
@EmdoTheDJOfficial
@EmdoTheDJOfficial 4 года назад
Don't forget about the print getting distorted while the tape and two sheets of web going between the form and the impression roll. Also in similar machines the tail of the old rolls web is way shorter than one revolution of the new roll, it is about 20 centimeters, just to cover the splicing tape. I am working on KBA TR10B and we only have two arms of the roll splicing unit, but the rolls are wider, up to 368 centimeters and heavier, up to 6 tons.
@CollectingCardboard
@CollectingCardboard 3 года назад
@@shawnroddick7523 Ours does too. Well,...on certain products, we use the silver tabs. Which,...as you mention...kills about 6-8 of the papers at the splice point.
@Mike-.747
@Mike-.747 5 лет назад
I blew up a few blankets in my day....
@montanaxvi
@montanaxvi 4 года назад
Seems like pasters always took out blankets on those damn holiday runs all the time. 😎
@philanderson1200
@philanderson1200 6 месяцев назад
Back when I was a roll tender we had zero speed splicers with festoons for paper storage
@raceforpride
@raceforpride 4 года назад
I worked on a sheet fed back in 1970, when work got slow they'd put me on the web press to catch books. I read a few comment of guys working double shifts as I did also. But one 'world Series Night against the Cincinnati Reds and to Boston Red sox the game ran over making me late on a 11 to 7am night job. Supervisor was pissed because he couldn't go home until everyone clocked in. As punishment he sent me to the basement to skin Butt Rolls with a razor blade knife. Many guys had cut their hands trying to keep up with the thousands of 'butt roll' cores to remove 2 inches of remaining paper. United Color Press in Dayton had a 200 foot room with 10's of thousands of butt rolls with paper still on them, They had been accumulating for decades and the rolls almost touch the 15 foot ceiling. As I set by the basement coffee machine I pondered a fast/ easier way to remove the soon to be recycled 2 inch paper of the butt roll. Suddenly the supervisor caught me drinking coffee and pondering just how to make this job easier and safer. "Get to work" he yelled, so I slowly walked over and started slicing with the razor blade Knife. Keeping in mind this was my first time to be punished this way, I noticed a vacuum in the circular hole that the paper traveled 20 feet down to spinning blade to chop the paper up for bailing. So I located a piece of plywood about a 4' X 4' just big enough to cover the exposed circular hole. As I slid a couple inches back the vacuum increased substantially. I held with both hands each end of the roll and the vacuum spun the paper so fast I couldn't hold it. So I located a good size pipe long enough to go completely though the roll with a little left-over. Got a couple wood blocks with holes to elevate, pulled some of the paper enough to catch the vacuum and the roll started spinning at super speed. So fast that what took 5 minutes to remove the 2 inches of paper took 5 seconds. I lit-up like a light bulb, and in a half/hour I had a hundred 'butt rolls" clean and stacked to one side. In a matter of a week this once almost unless 200 foot commercial basement room had room to place an 8 unit Tyson web press increasing this companies capabilities 25%. Making so much more money they moved out of Dayton and relocated near Cincinnati in a new bigger shop. Of course I didn't receive any credit because the Supervisor had thought it up on his own. Right? So one night, on my Birthday at two in the morning this Supervisor gave me the cliche , It's my way or the Highway", As a birthday present to myself I cleaned out my locker and went home. He followed me down the elevator and to the outside screaming, "you can't leave me in the middle of a shift", but I did. My future got better almost instantly. I loved printing and I miss it. It was a challenging job that was rewarding, That's how I found this printing video, the white roll guy was great. web-outs aren't fun, gassing blankets before start-up. hate that part, you could lose a finger. and the rag. This is my story and I'm sticking to it. Good luck pressman.
@willstearns3603
@willstearns3603 5 месяцев назад
I did this as one of my first jobs in printing...on a Goss Metro.....Patent Traded, Mt Kisco NY......64" wide rolls placed on small trolley carts....it was a blast!!!
@eddiedenver675
@eddiedenver675 2 месяца назад
The ole Tampa Tribune days. Same set up. I was there 35 years. Good memories.
@jimwu8557
@jimwu8557 5 лет назад
How does that feeder have time to check his inks and waters and still get the pressman coffee?
@angeloantoniocardoso8583
@angeloantoniocardoso8583 5 лет назад
Goss RTP 45P is a very nice splicer the most used for newspaper printing. In 1998 we intalled two Newsliner Presses at Diario Popular in São Paulo/ Brazil. In that time Newsliner was a top press. There were 8 RTP 45P , 5 full colors printing towers and 64 pages folders on each press. It was really a amazing project.
@2A4U.S.A
@2A4U.S.A 4 года назад
Wow!! That is old School... So cool to watch... I thought the Buttler on an M1000 with the vacuum rolls was ancient.. That is one hell o pattern.. The flying splicers that I have worked with used tabs or pull apart tape.
@lukewise777
@lukewise777 3 года назад
I use to be a 1st assistant or reel tech or reel man. Stevens Graphics in Birmingham, Alabama. We printed the Yellow pages. Perhaps the best job I ever had.
@StephenArokiaraj-pr5rr
@StephenArokiaraj-pr5rr 4 месяца назад
I worked in sheetfed at ITC Ltd as a Trade Apprentice 1978 - 1981 at TVT Plant, then worked in a weekly for some months ( web offset) and after that I worked in a Rotary Offset Printing Machine, Reel to sheet folder with Carols at both sides ie Computer Stationary.
@stephencurtis8699
@stephencurtis8699 2 месяца назад
That's a Goss I've made many pastors as a fly boy and apprietance Those jobs were for the senior journey man or those not so good upstairs on the press Good Times Good Union Shop or Journey Shop Yes two pressman to load roll Good Manning
@taber555
@taber555 5 лет назад
Thanks Dave! Great memories. I started on a Goss Metro-Offset when we were using glue, prior to the double-sided tape. Also we were very stingy with the black sensor tape; you only needed to apply a couple of inches to activate the sensor, not almost a foot! And I love the paster flags; the pressmen up top had to be quick to catch them unless you let them ride into the mailroom. In my final years, we had a new Ferag single-gripper conveyor that ejected the pasters using a small strip of metallic tape.
@diegojgomez7211
@diegojgomez7211 5 лет назад
taber555 I remember the glue
@justaprinter
@justaprinter 4 года назад
Makes my digital press seem puny. Nice work!
@hollonbischel5786
@hollonbischel5786 11 месяцев назад
Didn't spray side of roll with water,,two guys to load roll,,really?
@lafingas555
@lafingas555 7 лет назад
Our reelstands loaded the other way. That reel that was loaded would have been a back pattern, they were the back reels.
@gregwyatt8108
@gregwyatt8108 2 года назад
Same set-up I worked on for 15 years, except the press was an 8 unit Goss Headliner (Letter flex) converted from lead plate to polymer letter press) was brand new from the 50's was still in operation until 2001. Favorite saying run it at 60 paste at 50. At that speed a roll would last about 10 min, most of the time you ran 2 units. One thing that a long time to grasp was running full color, we split the unit, one side one direction the other side ran the other direction that was because of direct printing. One of the hardest things to do was change rollers, the press was designed to run a 72" web, inside form roller was 6 1/2" dia. took 6 guys to change, 4 on ropes pulling and 2 inside pushing.
@djt8518
@djt8518 2 месяца назад
I started out in letterpress then we changed to offset in the 70s
@johnbraun1719
@johnbraun1719 5 лет назад
Couple things wrong with this. You should never carry a rag in your pocket around any press for any reason. Also he is throwing the tape backing in the dumpster with the paper which isn't recycled the same as the paper. Don't throw this tape backing on the floor because than you have to get down there to pick it up.
@EmdoTheDJOfficial
@EmdoTheDJOfficial 4 года назад
Most of the tapes have recyclable backing now.
@johnb3592
@johnb3592 7 лет назад
We applied that tape straight across. Folder\splice tabs would usually fly off by the time they got to the folder. As long as your not webbing up because of slush holes its all good ?
@575Olive
@575Olive 4 месяца назад
Reminds me of the Gainesville sun
@WriteSign
@WriteSign 7 лет назад
Wow... newspaper making is wasteful. I'd love to have that cast off paper for art and school supplies! So dang cool. newspaper making how neat!
@robertcaves3797
@robertcaves3797 6 лет назад
had to reply.you should see what happens when the paste gos wrong
@taber555
@taber555 5 лет назад
Yeah, home runs were awesome!!! You would be down a half hour or more rethreading the press!
@EmdoTheDJOfficial
@EmdoTheDJOfficial 4 года назад
@@robertcaves3797 or when the roll is damaged in shipping or in the storage...
@wayneessar7489
@wayneessar7489 Год назад
If there is a web printing shop still in your area ask them nicely, perhaps send candy and you will have a very large supply.
@CM-oy2kd
@CM-oy2kd 6 лет назад
Looks like the post and courier
@ale60321538
@ale60321538 2 года назад
Автосклейка рулонов
@robertcaves3797
@robertcaves3797 Год назад
Oh you have brought back some memories! Show what happens when it go’s wrong takes out 4 or 5 blankets,Oh the fun we had.
@studentlife2375
@studentlife2375 5 лет назад
nice
@gracethroughfaith8883
@gracethroughfaith8883 7 лет назад
When I tended roll years ago, we marked up the roll, scott or keriweb tabs, tore the tapers, and applied glue with brush. I always felt like an artist when I was done.
@robertcaves3797
@robertcaves3797 6 лет назад
remember the glue so well .what a mess you could make......
@EmdoTheDJOfficial
@EmdoTheDJOfficial 4 года назад
We use double sided tapes for splicing, and also two kinds of glue, but the second one is optional.
@sean2743
@sean2743 6 лет назад
how old is this reel stand? i know we have some old ones where i work but nothing like this. we have paster reel stands on 4 of our heatset presses ....but our splice set up is much different..all we have to do is take top layer flop it over the top,set one piece of black splice tap across the roll and bring top layer to it then trim off access and away it goes....looks like so much prep work...need upgrades lmao.. :) great work though ... we have a total of 7 printing presses where i work...bit of a mixture. Heidelberg Harris - M1000 , goss sunday m4000 and a 2000 , baker perkins G16 ,2 older 966 uncoated retail presses ,and a heidelberg cover press .our pasters work flawless ,,and our other presses have butler roll stands or heidelberg festoon splicer like this one 2.bp.blogspot.com/-ReDuDiyFybI/Uk_dKtvHYvI/AAAAAAAABH4/5lJifEiLyuk/s1600/Zero-speed-web-splicer-in-horizontal-configuration.jpg,,, id love to see more videos of where you work....where is this located?
@petermitchell2448
@petermitchell2448 3 года назад
Oooh taking the tapes off so soon, they can dry out and number one reason for splice failure
@aaefcfbac
@aaefcfbac 7 лет назад
This looks very intricate. Can you explain what is going on? Does this somehow set things up for an automatic splice?
@john72ss
@john72ss 4 года назад
just like the one I worked on for 17 years!
@omkarkumbhakarna3756
@omkarkumbhakarna3756 4 года назад
Pls give me a name of machine
@john72ss
@john72ss 4 года назад
@@omkarkumbhakarna3756 goss metro.
@omkarkumbhakarna3756
@omkarkumbhakarna3756 4 года назад
I want to ask you Kraft paper also printed this machine
@samuelmartinez2427
@samuelmartinez2427 Год назад
que calidad haciendo empalmes ✌
@mvrdamonxy7942
@mvrdamonxy7942 7 лет назад
safe to say you done that before.
@normaaustin9171
@normaaustin9171 5 лет назад
Totally awesome. I remember those days. The Days, Evenings, and Night Shift. I did so many doubles and triple shifts.
@metalox88
@metalox88 5 лет назад
tampa bay Times just like that
@waltersobchak7275
@waltersobchak7275 3 года назад
What's up Tampa how's it going down there? It sucks here in Jax
@diegojgomez7211
@diegojgomez7211 3 года назад
I worked 40 years doing almost everything in The D M News press room, And if they let me I will do it again for free!
@diegojgomez7211
@diegojgomez7211 5 лет назад
I remember! 40 years as press operator.
@waltersobchak7275
@waltersobchak7275 3 года назад
Much respect for you Diego
@diegojgomez7211
@diegojgomez7211 3 года назад
@@waltersobchak7275 Thanks!
@lawrenceakers2990
@lawrenceakers2990 7 лет назад
This guy is a reel tending GOD.
@johnbraun1719
@johnbraun1719 5 лет назад
I always called it rolltending
@hollonbischel5786
@hollonbischel5786 11 месяцев назад
Gotta be union crybabies.
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