"Broadband Over Power Lines" we call it here in the States. The power Company can remotely shut off your power at will for ANY reason. Your fault, their mistake - it doesn't matter, suddenly you are literally in the dark. It is a problem that is completely unfair and should be illegal.
I am in New Zealand and our power company tried to bully me into getting smart meter after I refused it . 2 days later a power dude was in my back yard with his tool box ready to install it .I just reminded him if he touches my meter box he will get assaulted .he packed his stuff and left . Stay viligant people don't let them bully you
j f Why so worried about smart meters? What is the transmit power and RF frequency used in your area that makes you worry? EMF is way more of a concern from a smart phone when it’s sending with boosted power to reach a far away antenna tower (if you have 1 or 2 bars on the signal).
@j f Wow... a lot of misinformation concerning smart meters. Not all smart meters are the same. The ones in this area use the telephone lines , no RF involved. The telephone based smart meters don't interpret usage, just measure it. With a starting reading on the meter at 12344, and an ending reading of 24688, be it measured digitally or analog (the traditional meters), the difference is still 24688-12344 or 12344 . Commercial users in this area have access to the power company's staff to get ideas and assistance in how to lower their operating costs.
As soon as I had my power company removed our smart meter and replaced it with an older style meter, our bill dropped significantly to where it had averaged the past 30 years. That was really great after it went up 300% after it was installed.
The power company installed a smart meter on my house. When I had them remove it, all at once my crazy screaming Roosters stopped crowing and calmed down.
For sure, smart meters do not benefit the customer only the supplier, I have one and are about £5 worse off a month which doesn't sound much I know but over the next twenty years including everyone else here in the UK its millions of ££££
@@badlieutenant3822 then why add extra items that enable a local shutoff for items like solar.... please balance that giant load without sectioning it off for safety and efficiency... its also more accurate in many respects...
I have operated a metal fab shop doing a lot of welding. We did a experiment with our spot welder. With a spot welder there is a almost instantaneous high current draw. With the old wheel meter the wheel just moved quickly but with the new one the kw usage stays on for around 2 seconds after the load stops charging me 2 extra seconds for that draw. Now I know 2 seconds don’t sound like a big deal but the welder draws around 2kw. It is not uncommon to cycle this machine over 1000 times a hour. Now do the math! Long story short my bill has risen around 15%. I have expressed my concern to the utility company and was told it is impossible for the new meter to bill be the extra 2 seconds and that I could not get back my old style meter. There is absolutely no doubt this is happening when I compared old bills. Once again the big institution wins! Just raise my prices I guess but this is complete BS! Makes you wonder how much more these organized criminals are stealing from the general public across the country.
ABSOULTELY BS THESE COMPANIES! My late father was a draftsman for Duncan electric meters in the '60's. The old school analog meters NEVER lied! Digital is a corrupt deceptive way to be lazy a$$es to not go out and read meters and yet charge the people more. Just like many politicians they think we the people are so freaking stupid to understand this.
Digital meters are more accurate. The mechanical meters are less accurate meaning they can slow down over time. There are Standards the meters must comply with. They are NOT out to get anyone.
@@stevecampbell7620 they are not, only accurate while being calibrated. Check other youtube videos, especially from UK where people filming digital meters reading consumption even few times higher than actual consumption. I personally got such meter in my collection. Internal electronic components might slightly change characteristics or fail over the time and this might affect microcontrollers analog input readings used to sense the actual current or voltage. Best solution is to install second meter in line, so you can check time to time if readings still match.
take 2 seconds over all the customers and the power company gains a lot of extra profit while not providing electricity. Amounts to a big amount for the Christmas party.
No mention of the RF interference that these things are causing. This makes it virtually impossible for many people to use sensitive amateur radio receivers and short wave receivers. They're on a much higher frequency than Short Wave, but the interference goes right through the radio spectrum from LF upwards. Have you noticed how much poorer the quality of sound is on your AM radio over the past few years? We’re in the U.K., and used to listen to BBC Radio 4 on 198kHz very regularly. It's now almost impossible to hear the audio at times, because of the really high levels of noise, which is mostly from smart meters. DAB broadcasting covers some of the lost service, but not all of it. And DAB radios use more power than analogue receivers.
I own a small detail shop, power company came by and installed smart meters and told me I had no say so about it and that all businesses were getting smart meters before they do home owners. Within a month all of my large air compressors were dead. I called a repairman who before he even looked at the compressor, checked the voltage coming to the building. Most large equipment needs 240-250v, which is what I had prior, now it was topping out at 230v. That made my compressors overheat and fried the motors. I called the power company and basically they told me tough luck. I was advised to hire an electrician to evaluate my power needs and he would have to tell them to up my voltage which they would then charge me a heck of a lot more for. So yeah, dude is spot on about how bad they are.
www.amazon.com/Monitor-HOMREE-Voltmeter-Household-Directly/dp/B0744GWFRM Anything like this is cheap and easy to install. Try to find two different outlets, one for each of the 2 phases. As you are finding out, *LOW* voltage is a *KILLER* for electrical motors. Phone in every time your voltage drops. Log the complaints. The best way to stop these criminals is with paperwork. Best of LUCK Damien.
One more though. only run one compressor at any given time if you have more than one. If a compressor runs at 20 amps, then the start up draw is 10 times higher than the running amperage. For a very short time the startup current draw will be near 200 amps. Guess what thay does to your line voltage? Line voltage will drop. Computers and anything electronic will also suffer from the lower voltage.
Those plug in ones are really cheap on Ebay. Not perfect, but they are on all the time and seem to be reasonably accurate. Your power company knows most of us will not spend $1000 to have an electrician do a power check. That's why I suggest you get a cheap monitor and phone in a complaint every time you see the voltage drop. If they don't like your method of monitoring their line voltage, then you can suggest they check your power for free. after 100 complaints or more, you can also go to your Utility commission and complain. ;-) Best of luck my friend. 👍👍
I would of told them tough luck for you because if you dont reimburse me for my losses then you will compensate fully for negligence , liability and destruction of my property underba commercial lien on your ass.
i love the way people are lording this as a great thing... its putting meter readers out of work and extending the lines at the social security/ Job seekers office and reducing the Actual total capacity is just bad busness, we get ripped off enough for our energy without British gas treating critical resorces like mobile data
Robbie lacey Jones same am just about to get one..last 2 half months my bill was 547 pounds. They tell me a new smart meter will sort it out. Think they want everyone with a free Smart meter
They don't call it "smart" because it is good for your wallet, they call it "smart" because it is good for their bank account. Smart move on their part that is.
I’ve seen one of those smart meters opened up. They are very complex. They have a full board with a processor, memory, modem, SIM card and antenna in the uk. Also a big circuit breaker so theoretically they could remotely cut you off.
You can definitely remotely disconnect and connect a smartmeter. It takes minutes. They send meter reads daily. They're a huge improvement over the old meters.
like a smart watch, that varies by local regulations and meter manufacturer. My province's legislation doesn't allow for use of most of those things. Here, they use an encrypted radio burst for 1 second every 8 or 12hrs. The "smart" meters used in residential are about as complex as a 2010 FitBit. Cutting edge power meters (for utility and industrial) are more like a 2017 laptop/tablet
I live in a 1500 sq ft 2 story house with a 3.5 ton HVAC AC system. It's sprayed foamed to r 19 in the walls and R 60 in the attic. The House is pretty much an igloo. Completely sealed. Extremely insulated. Light grey metal roof which is highly reflective. Last year our highest bill was 175.00..and that's in a Texas Summer..13 days of 100 degrees weather. Very Hot. Bill was never over 175.00 even using all electric appliances. After the install of this Smart Meter..bill jumped up to 450.00. What the hell? I called CPS energy provider out to check the meter because something was wrong. They found no fault with the meter..I showed them past bills using the old mechanical meter..They had no explanation. I'm going back to the mechanical meter and pay the extra 20.00 per month..This is just stupid.
The change is most likely the old meter not measuring power consumption correctly. Your HVAC unit may be skewing the power factor significantly. Smart meters can detect this and measure the true power consumed.
@@Bill_N7FTM no its what it reads , third harmonic for instance a couple of PC's and various other equipment will change your costs from before and you have no control over it , there is also the question arising in the UK as to the effect of LED lamps on the bills as they went up significantly when LED was being used , i think its the same problem most electronics produce third harmonics thats (as far as i am aware) a small voltage down the neutral which is also being measured so the real solution is to get a 1 to 1 transformer to even out the consumption and of course your voltage you may notice your led LAMPS fading in and out (if they are dmmible ) because they are at such a low current it starts to become obvious
I had crazy and constant headaches and was nervous all the time when I slept near one for almost a year and had no other electrics nearby in the room or out of the room in the corridor. The only thing constantly on was that smart meter. As soon as I requested it to be removed because of other issues with it I noticed my headaches were gone and I was a LOT calmer. Never will this be near my body again!
I stumbled onto your site with this video. I don't own a home, I rent an apartment yet found your content very interesting just the same. I'm sure our building is using some form of these smart meters as about a year ago or so they switched meters and now every month I get what I call a "GUILT REPORT" about how much more power I consume compared to my apartment neighbors. I guess they want to shame me into using less electricity or something. Thanks for the content, subed your channel.
Strangely enough in Germany we are asked if we want smart meter or just a standard electronic meter. I think they mentioned that installing smart meter conflicts with their strict personal data protection laws.
I hate smart meters so much because I was harmed by radiation at work from electricity, that I am going to live off grid with solar power forEVER. This is an awesome channel and the negative remarks below are from the uneducated.
As an electrician, another bummer is that I can’t just pull your meter and upgrade or change out your service. The smart meter reports back to mother brain that there is a service interruption. It helps keep us safe from the untrained but also means I have to pull a permit and schedule an inspection and charge you more for the cost and hassle.
This is rediculous when a person opts out and they still put the dang thing up, we need to join together world wide/ world wide law class action suit…. !!!!!
@@meganjarvis7970 you don’t own the power delivery infrastructure, if the utility wants to change their equipment they’re going to do it. If you don’t like it, don’t use grid power and get solar with a battery bank and inverter or build your own power plant.
I don’t understand it. We have washed out our education system to where people who are functionally illiterate can graduate high school. They cannot find jobs, go on relief rolls, or sell drugs, do something illegal to get by. It doesn’t take even a high school graduate to read a meter. What’s wrong with employing these people? The cost of paying high-paid computer programmers and high-paid electrical engineers to make the smart meters could be diverted to low-paid meter readers.
But smart meters do not get bit by dogs, threatened by angry customers for no pay disconnects, fall on ice walking routes... The list goes on and on this is why automated meters are here. There are new job opportunities involved with the technology.
Good for you, Fu. I only have 1kW of solar on the roof now, but I hope to add 4kW more this next year, backing it up with 15kWh of lithium batteries. How big is your setup? Solar, wind, water, or a comination? House or cabin?
LOL. Or hang an old smartphone and a charger over the top of it. But make sure that both do not work because they won't be anymore after they've been out in the rain. LOL.
@Boony Tooty no as the meter is at the demarcation... you only pay for what you use on your end. usually they give you a 5$ service or delivery fee... which is standard... or do you bus in your power by battery...
Kva is an indication of how much harder the generator actually has to work for the customer’s load. The more you get away from resistive loads and towards inductive or capacitive loads like motors, the more work the generator has to do ( they call this VARs). But if all your loads are Resistive, then Kva drops towards zero and only Kw count for usage. So all these years we didn’t have to pay for Kva loads (like big motors) we ran but now we have to pay the piper for all the types of loads we have as these meters can easily measure these powers accurately. This is a very simplified explanation of power.
Volt-amps and Watts are not synonymous. I like the presentation, but if you introduce motors US utility can charge power factor or require capacitors to be installed.
@@antar193 Yes I agree, and I think that is why the power companies hate the Switching Power Supplies that show in our consumer electronics now because of the PF these devices introduce. There are so many out there now running that it throws a wrench into the works for their generators so yes they are going to charge us for our PF …… just like they now charge us for that damned carbon gas tax ! Pretty soon we will have to pay for air we breath ……
Don't think for a second the power company hasn't already added this to the price they charge, coming and outright charging for it is double dipping. What do you expect from scumbag government agencies?
Washington state West coast here. They told us with these smart things😕 that between the hours of 5pm and 9pm, they can charge us up three times as much money for what we are useing ! So, we have been switching off everything at the breaker, between the hours of 5pm until 9:01pm. We have saved SO MUCH MONEY it's crazy!! Ya, we have mega discipline in my house!⚓
Thanks Scottie. My supplier in the UK installed a smart meter after our old one stopped working. I didn't want a smart meter as I have solar panels (and it was always a joy to see that old spinning wheel run backwards) but I had no choice but to accept the new meter. I have been wondering why my electricity bills have been so high and I can see why if I am now paying for that "extra" power that they need to send in order to cover our usage.
In USA I learned it is your property & your choice regarding what is on your property. I learned you can buy the meter you want to use & the electrician gets a permit (it does not have to specify exactly what they are removing & installing) & then the electrician can remove your smartmeter & install the meter you bought instead!
Kinda like the gas pipelines in Atlanta, Georgia. However much they claim it costs them to send the gas through the lines (they claim they don't own them so they rent them to you) is how much higher your gas bill.
I think you will find that the power factor is the same, provided the equipment is the same. The losses incurred in supplying the power is the same, all that has changed is the method of measuring it ie from analogue to digital. This is a misleading post. Since I have had a smart meter for several years, they have in time improved them to an extent that I can now monitor usage on a continuous basis if I wish. The IHD has enabled me to save on average 8 pounds a month, simply by monitoring the usage of individual appliances and equipment, and modifying how they are used. For me the smart meter is an asset, with a complete lack of estimated bills.
@@aprilpeace3371 Nope. Here, if you do not comply, they will eventually just turn off your power. Sort of like what Trudo is doing now with banks and truckers. You do have rights, but they do not honor them. If you can afford the court expenses, then you may stand up for your rights.
Im a HAM radio operator. After they installed the new smart meter, I was getting horrible interference on several bands. My driven earth ground is five feet from the underground power line to my house. I ended up moving my ground away from the power line to be able to use my equipment. The signal levels were so high it totally swamped out all my meters.
I don't have a smart meter but my neighbours both sides of my terraced house have the bloody things installed. Since the uk drive to install these dam things. It's now impossible for me to use the hf bands at all s8 across the hf bands 80 40 snd 20 meters are washed out completely. I cannot change the location of my g5rv I have tried mostly everything to resolve the problem the only way is to not use my radios at all. Bloody digital technology will be the death of the radio amateur hobby. 73
@@sincitybarbie3749 it absolutely is true because I'm experiencing precisely that where I live in Illinois. It's been Wackadoo for me since July of 2019! There is absolutely and positively NO personal privacy WHATSOEVER! Like a psych ward's going to help THIS! Just another excuse to prescribe I guess... you are indeed correct. I wouldn't wish this on ANY human being, EVER!😡
Thank you, Scottie. Don't beam us up yet, your research and views are helpful. I'm happy with this information about how smart meters function and how the costs are higher, in the end. The Dutch Eneco energy-provider's website has created a Forum for smart-meter users, with questions and issues. Indeed, there's a lot of complaints by smart-meter users, about bills rising without a cause and after inquiring about it these smart-meter users are told that they've probably ignored devices using power or other similar explanations. A lame argument, when it's true that smart meter-readings show a detailed use of electricity in each room or floor of the house. Anyway, my publication of your videos and other critical voices pointing at the deceptive program around smart-meters, including the wrong info about the frequency of readings, when the data is transferred from smart-meter to energy-provider, plus the health-hazards of the including EMF radiation (elektro-smog) has triggered many negative and sarcastic remarks. The advisers, which seem to be, just like the smart-meter users, ordinary people, are possibly paid by Eneco to promote smart-meter use and trample critical remarks, calling me a conspiracy theorist, addressing me as if I'm a man. Here's the usual view, of men, that subjects like this are discussed by men whose wives are knitting legwarmers and mittens for when the power fails, using arguments like "I'm sure the risk of smart-meters is studied and measured thoroughly, I'm pretty sure we're safe" or "The risk of being run over by a car is much higher than dying from elektro-smog" or "Stop nagging, jeez, have a life!" which is exactly what I'm planning to have.... without a smart meter or smart phone. Knitting legwarmers :)
Sadly... this is only the beginning. People better wake up quick. Stop awaiting some deity to fall out of the sky to help you. Find some courage in yourself to stand up. Praying, paying and obeying is only going to hurt us all in the long run. Find your voice.
I will start with this. I have never been sick a day in my life. And all who know me, know this to be true. Fast forward, I have been ill for months now, body aches, headaches, stomach issues and others. I dint even know I had a smart meter installed until about three weeks ago. A family member said, you really should go see a dr. Something is obviously wrong, asked me if I had a smart meter installed, because they knew that they are making people sick. I replied NO, because at that time I was unaware that one had been installed while I was away. Just noticed a few weeks ago, I am now the proud owner of a smart meter. Was out doing some yard work and happened to look up and saw it. Now at last I know the cause of my illness. Fun,fun,fun...
Tony Musolino Go to the CosmicReality website and either order the S4 stickers,or the sticker/ magnet specifically for smart meters- They DO work and are scientifically and energetically tested by the people who’ve developed them. These will save yourself and family.
Isla Miln. / Could you give more info on the web site. When I search there are many many sites with that name. I’m not sure which one is the right one. Thank you so much.
Smart Meter Health Complaints - EMF Safety Network "People from coast to coast in the USA, and from one side of the world to the other, are becoming ill after exposure to the radiofrequency radiation emitted by Wireless Smart Meters."
I've been chronically sick my whole life until the past 5 years. I moved away from my townhouse w/a smart meter into a trailer home w/o a smart meter. The nightmares I was having completely stopped. My twin sister just moved 2 blocks away a few months ago. I've been warning people to stay away from smart meters. The electrical company came thru and added a smart meter to her home only 3 or 4 days ago. My fiance and I were planning to get married in her home next Friday but not anymore (we are both disabled so travel is difficult). 😢🤬
They just installed one on my house today. I ask the guy if I could keep my old one, and he said it would cost me $40 more month. I have a feeling my bill is going to go up.
Neznisgip I would have loved paying the extra and keeping my original meter just for peace of mind. I fought. With the electric company for months but they won when they said we had to either take the smart meter or we cut you off and charge for retrieving the old meter.
30 years ago we used to only have storage heaters in the house. We were on 'Economy 7' tariff. So we used to have cheaper electricity (i think) between the hours of midnight and 7am. There must have been some way for the company to know even back then when we were using electricty. The idea was that you switched the heaters on at night to get them hot and then they'd switch off in the morning but carry on radiating heat during the day. Now we get a letter or a phone call about once every couple of months telling us what an opportunity is is to be able to have our very own smart meter fitted. And every time we tell them BOLLOCKS!
I'm reading over and over about health, charges and fires when smart meters are installed, there's too many people complaining, no way they're all lying!!.... HOWEVER I have a story to share about welded contacts and fires. We lost power for 2 days, so I killed my 150 or 200A main breaker, (which most homeowners never touch it) and took my meter off, and ran my generator. Power came back, disconnected my generator, turned on the Main breaker, and smoke immediately started coming out!! It caught fire as I stood at staring at it! I killed the power again, pulled my meter again and found the main breaker hotter than hell. Guess what was wrong?? Homeowners don't pull their meters, ever. They also never shut off the Main breaker of 150 or 200 Amps. Turns out that outside where the main lines come in the house, there is no drip loop, They sealed the wire with their stupid ass puddy, it leaked and corroded the main breaker for years. Because you never pull your meter and your main, the contacts stay tightly together. As soon as you turn it to off, it will not make that same good connection again due to corrosion. Fire was caused by a tiny leak, corroded contacts, and disturbing those contacts when I pulled my meter and shut off my main... What if we I turned it back on it still worked, the contacts still supplied me with power and I walked away. As soon as I turned on an electric dryer and an oven pulling 50Amps, those contacts would have failed and could start a fire... When this 1st happened, I was stumped, and very concerned. But once I found the problem, I realistic that this can happen to anyone who disturbs the connections as I did. I guarantee you, with no hesitation, that a similar thing similar to this has burned homes down. SORRY FOR THE BOOK!!
The fires was not related to the smart meter it was due to been installed wrong (of they replaced it with a normal meter it would have had same issue due to the wiring from that installer)
@@IesKorpershoek wires? most are just slotted... you cant mess it up as the door will literally not close.... did they replace the entire box, as that is unusual.
Theirs a great video here in USA showing the smart meter doesn't have a safety cutoff and is the cutoff but cannot handle it correctly. Also we have hundreds of videos showing fires from the outside smart meters.
@@charleysturbos7320 seems more likely it's miswired. If it can't handle it you have something odd going on. As it can handle it in normal operations. Ground fault.
I thought I was being wise by opting for a smart meter in London UK last year. The utility co told me it was free. A couple of months later, they put my monthly subs up from £97 to £118, citing increased energy buy-in costs. Yeah right... Worse, the wall unit that is supposed to tell me everything I need to know, gives estimated readings because of time lags. It also eats batteries. Jeez, did they see us coming! In the UK the belief now is that most of this crap has been politically motivated. To me, that means the big (international) companies have got to the politicos.
Not to mention you now have a wifi transmitter/receiver you can't switch off. My power supplier sent me a vastly inflated gas bill & demanded a photo of my (old, 'dumb') meter (with serial number visible) to prove my reading. Very fishy. Softening me up for a smart meter obvs. (UK btw.)
A couple of things that might be worth pointing out. Firstly France used to supply at 220V, and when your max power was first allocated, it would have resulted in a certain current rating for the supply circuit breaker (I=P/V). The supply voltage then increased to 230V a few years back, so the current required to provide the 'same' power went down. It's only with the introduction of SmartMeters and incorporating a CB into it that it became economic to reduce the supply current rating to maintain the same power; so that's why it has only happened recently! You haven't been 'done', but until now have actually been 'allowed' more power than you were originally contracted for. Secondly, Power (P) or Apparent Power (VA) etc. is immaterial - The breaker trips with over current, so keeping the current below the rated value is the real 'trick'. I understand why you side step round Power Factor (PF), as for most viewers it would be far too techie, but by correcting the PF at the appliance, the supply current is reduced, freeing up the spare current for other appliances. I have done this on my fridge and ceiling fans, by connecting appropriately sized capacitors. The water heater and kettles etc run at unity PF anyway, so don't need them. Smart meters have their drawbacks, but they are not the bogeyman they seem - It's the implementation and tariff structure by the suppliers that are really at fault here! Incidentally, although the circuit breakers in the SmartMeter are electronic in operation (rather than the old electro mechanical) they generally have the same Type C profile. This means that they will still allow a higher surge current than the actual rated current without tripping, provided this is for a limited time. By monitoring your demand on an energy monitor (such as an Efergy or Owl) you can soon find out what you can 'get away' with, and for how long! I run my house on just a 3.45kVA (15A) supply, and have reduced the standing charge without affecting the quality of life. It can be done, but being an electrical engineer helps I suppose.....
Not "smart" for them ultimately. They are being sued into oblivion world wide (which only victims in the know, activists, and certain courts know about) and God certainly won't have anything planned out for these energy companies that's favorable to them b/c of blood guilt on their hands. Children and elderly are at the greatest risk, but these things are soooo strong that they're very dangerous for everyone. Smart meters almost killed me after 9 meters were moved into the electrical closet across the hall from my apartment. After 3 weeks I could no longer speak, walk, lift my head, my fingernails were separating from my fingers, my skin was burnt on scalp and face, when I swallowed food it felt like my throat and stomach were burnt, my brain was so fried from the radiation that it was making electronic noises (did you know that a brain can do that? it sounded like R2D2), I couldn't construct basic sentences in thought either, and my medical tests proved radiation damage to every organ. Every single organ. I was consequently homeless for 9 months trying to avoid meters. What you have to do is turn off your fuse box in order to stop the biological effects on your body caused by the smart meter on your electrical wiring. It's a literal life saver. What I went through I have 2 clients going through also, and my doctor said he's getting 2 new patients per week now developing the same issues. What Smart (Demon) Meters will do is make you permanently or semi permanently, impossibly sensitive to all electricity and your cell phone. I now have to have all clients put phones on airplane mode when they come in or I will collapse from pain of burning skin since I was so badly injured by smart meters. I work with the public so I have a small scale statistical view of about how many people this must be effecting world wide. It will get much worse if everyone doesn't demand landlines, get off their cell phones with exception of absolute and total necessity, put smart meter covers on their smart meters, shut off fuse boxes as much as possible, hard wire their laptops and desktops with ethernet (which is super easy and way better internet). The real reason smart meters are being installed is much more nefarious than anyone could ever realize, I assume, b/c of the class action lawsuits worldwide over it for the last 12 years that STILL aren't seeming to get people very far. (But remember that there was a $28 million study done in 1992 for 6 years by the country's leading radiation specialists and it proved extreme danger in long term use of any wifi, let alone the hundred times stronger smart meters. That information was swept under the rug. Although it was already known by the military in the 40s b/c it's the EXACT same technology.) Anyway, maybe smart meters are 1000 x stronger b/c people are reporting near death experiences world wide. Some of the radiation experts we've talked to are saying that doctors worldwide are calling them to get educated on how Smart meters work b/c the hospitals are being flooded with people who are radiation damaged since Smart Meters were installed. People in apartments will have it much worse b/c while they can shut off THEIR fuse boxes, you can't convince your neighbors to. While people in apartments in some states can opt out of smart meters, you can't convince your neighbors to. It was my neighbors' nine meters that almost killed me bc I opted out, but they didn't. HOWEVER, the opt out option is now becoming known to be a scam b/c they will just put a different meter on that has the same technology, which may be what they did with my opt out meter. OR they will say, "yeah no problem. We've got a guy available in 2 weeks to come out and take that off for you." ......... and they will never come. No matter how many times you call, they will never come out. So, you must do the things I've suggested above to save yourselves. OR move off grid to a wifi free and EMF free community, but MIGHT be far easier to arrange your home and business or office to be safe. Wifi free communities are starting to pop up all over the world though. Very embryonic stages but they are popping up everywhere which is very telling. There are now law firms devoted only to cell tower removal b/c cell phone technology is so lethal. Smart meters are FAR more dangerous bc they're strapped to your homes and one military weapons specialist said they are equal in strength to a military grade radiation weapon/they're more imminently lethal for some. Like I said, enough people are reporting near death after only 3 months or 6 months that imagine the untold suffering of people that don't know why they're dying. Somehow they heal in their cars, yet they go home and within an hour they are being rushed to hospitals. They heal in the hospital but then go home and almost die again, or they do die. Anyway, Class Action lawsuits worldwide, yet they haven't been shut down yet after 12 yrs of a massive fight. Silent, but massive. Media isn't covering it, yet it's far more dangerous than C*vid ever could be. Symptoms can be very similar b/c it attacks the lungs as well. Causes really violent vomiting, super human like fever b/c of radiation burning the body, etc. Better make sure your C*vid tests are truly accurate b/c that may not be what you have. When you call the energy companies to tell them what happened to your health, they will always hang up on you before you can say too much more. Then they have a supervisor call you back saying, "If you have any questions I can answer, please call ...." As if I didn't have only statements to make to her informing HER. I don't need her to answer questions with fake, scripted answers written by the questionable scientists hired by the energy companies.
In our area we have smart meters for both electric and water. Never had a problem with electric shut down. They do have a peak charge from 4 -7 PM (charge more per killowatt hour) . About 5 years ago,at about midnight, we heard an explosion and the lights went out. Called the utility company and they came out to replace meter. Moisture got inside. I asked them and they told me that they were replacing with the same type and, yes it could happen again. I'm moving off grid
I am wondering if this might be why I am getting headaches, as the head of my bed is right behind the meter that is on the outside of the wall. I have some 4x8 sheet of aluminum that I just put up as I was watching your video, do you think this will help keep it out or amplify my situation.? Thank you in advance.!
The smart meter's KVA rating has nothing to do with losses between the generator and the smart meter. Basically power is just power (watts), but the equation everyone knows, P = IV is really only applicable to DC power, or AC power where the current and voltage are 100% in phase. That is, for AC power, voltage typically looks like a sine wave. It turns out that for AC power, current draw *also* tends to look like a sine wave (though not always). However, the two sine waves are not usually completely in phase. For an AC circuit, the idealized real power is more like P = IV * cos(theta), where theta is the phase difference between the voltage waveform and the current waveform. Idealized assuming the current waveform is also a sinewave, which it might not be. The KVA rating, on the other-hand, is a measure of apparent power, not real power. It is simply the RMS voltage multiplied by the RMS current. This is NOT a measure of actual power, but a measure of apparent power. It ignores the relationship between the voltage sine wave and the current sine wave. In fact, it is a measure of worst-case stress on a power circuit, which is why a lot of equipment has a KVA rating. So the best way to think about this is simply that KVA is 'apparent power' which is used as a measure of stress, a measure of the absolute worst case a piece of equipment can deal with, whereas KW is 'real power', as in conservation-of-energy real power. The real power will be lower than the apparent power. -- One final little bit of trivia. AC Electrical loads do not uniformly pull current from every point on the voltage sine wave of the input. For example, a simple-stupid rectifier circuit just pulls power out of the peaks of the sine wave (a half rectifier pulls power only from the positive peak, while a full rectifier pulls power from both the positive and negative peak). In this situation, the current pulled from the AC power input is basically zero at all other points except the top and bottom of the sine wave. Old style mechanical meters had a terrible time converting such stupidly bad rectifiers to actual power consumption. It would always underestimate the actual power, so consumers using old badly rectified equipment always got somewhat of a free ride. Fortunately, those types of circuits were not usually used in heavy duty equipment, so power companies didn't care so much. Newer meters, and smart meters, are able to measure *actual* power ... actual watts, and consumers no longer get a free ride on such devices. Not a big deal because most modern devices don't have stupid rectifiers in them anyway. Most electronics these days are based on switching power supplies, for example, which can draw power from the entire AC cycle (or at least most of it). -- In the old days, a shop whos electricity use was mostly from 2-phase and 3-phase motors had to actually get a special schedule from the power company. The power company would calculate the actual power factor such that it could compensate the under-readings the old meters gave to figure out the actual power consumed. This, for example, is what the power factor specification for a three-phase motor would be used for. Power factor... it isn't really a specification of 'real work' (what is 'fake work' supposed to be? Heat losses from the circuit? Remember, conservation of energy again....). It's basically a specification to get around the fact that power monitoring equipment used to give the wrong readings for AC consumption when the current and voltage waveforms were out of phase. But again, also, its a good way to specify the maximum stress a circuit can handle. Stress on an electrical circuit tends to be related more to the peak current in each cycle and not just the average. While KVA is not a perfect measure of peak current, its calculation of RMS current is a much better measure (will produce a higher, more appropriate value) than trying to calculate a current from the real power consumption (which is basically impossible for an AC circuit where the current is out of phase... well, that's what PF (Power Factor) is, so not impossible... just that there is no single value for it. You'd have to calculate the actual difference to come up with the PF, and then you could estimate based on real power using PF to convert). -Matt
Mrs Richards: "I paid for a room with a view !" Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam ." Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!" Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window ? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically across the plains?..." Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea!" Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky." Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction." Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment ?"
Smart meter allow airplanes in the air to locate a specific house below. This allows airplanes equipped with directed energy weapon to zap any house they want with 100% accuracy, like in California and in Greece recently..
Last year I was forced to have a smart meter if I wanted to continue my energy supply with E-on so I thought to save hassle of changing supplier I would finally give in. I had one fitted but just over a year on I have health problems including insomnia and I did not really think about it until today but the meter is high on the living room wall in my small old cottage. It is in a wooden box and directly above it on the first floor is my bed and my head is in line with the box and about 4 feet above the meter when I am lying down with only wooden floor boards as a barrier. I have just emailed E-on about this and asked if there are any health risks. I know they are going to be biased but it will interesting to see what they say. I have also just ordered an EMF reader to check emissions with. It is all a bit worrying, especially since this is a small one bedroom cottage and I cannot move my bed. I read in the USA these meters must be positioned outside of properties and also you should make sure you are at least 50 feet away from one where you sleep.
In New Zealand they have been rolling out smart meters for sometime but it is a consumers right over here to not have them installed if you don't want them, gotta love having choice.
In San Antonio, Tx, we were given the choice to opt out on smart meter installation, but we would have to pay an extra $20 monthly for a meter reader to come out and read the analog meter. Then the choice was taken away and you must have a smart meter or no electricity at all. You will comply or we will burn you with cigarettes!
@Dave Micolichek It's amusing to see people attack other people over subjects like smart meters. Instead of considering the overwhelming proof of the many dangers caused by idiot meters, they use ad hominem attack against the person who is concerned, while tossing out their nonsensical opinion about the subject. Marxism 101 at work with Dave Micoliechek - another useful idiot satan is using. Pfffft.......
@Dave Micolichek What does using the internet have to do with idiot meters? Nothing! I have a hard-wired computer, with the wifi off, so how am I being a hypocrite for being hyper-sensitive to non-ionizing radiation? Why did France (and others) ban wireless in schools,. libraries, and public buildings? I suggest you go to Deborah Tavares channel, and learn about the many dangers of NON-ionizing radiation. While ionizing radiation may have more dangers, that does NOT make non-ionizing radiation safe. I have to wonder why you are defending non-ionizing tradition, like a useful idiot for the evil entity. What is your profession?
I'm an electrician ,have been saying for long time don't get smart meter ,they banned them in australia houses caught fire even resulted in deaths ,noise of radio wave high frequency messed around with thousands of peoples heads causing headaches ,that many people all had same issue cant be wrong ,suppose switch save power at certain times of night why were bills dearer,we all knew real reason was if had problem with bill and company did not listen or had trouble contacting real operator they could switch power off remotely straight away ,leaving you in dark .😮
Well you have another option possibly. Quit bitching and get yourself a generator and run that for a year and compare pocket book before and after. It’s never the customers problem it’s always the power companies. Flipping power companies are overseen by regulation committees at least here in the states that being said contrary to popular belief they can’t do whatever they want.
One of the reasons they changed to smart meters is to prevent getting caught scamming you. Your bill is either based on your meter, if you are habitually delinquent, or your credit score, in which case, they just make the shit up. But they tend to get caught at that when people notice that nobody is actually coming to their house to read the meter at all. There was a guy who finally complained to the tv news, here, that he owns 4 houses, 3 of which are unoccupied, so he turned the main off, yet still, he was getting hit with $300 per month, on each of them. Those meters weren't even moving, but they didn't know that because nobody was actually reading them. But you will have to sue them, and that will cost even more, so if you want to keep that credit score, you'll just have to pay whatever they want. READ YOUR OWN METER AND COMPARE IT TO YOUR BILL before you argue with me, you'll see.
The water company does it, too. There were a couple of hundred complaints to the tv news one month about them, they were sending people $1000 bills. Then, on the phone, they were rude, and blamed the customers for having water leaks, and telling them to "get a plumber". When they did hire plumbers, the plumbers would tell them shit like "this is IMPOSSIBLE, you have a half inch water meter, and it CANNOT POSSIBLY flow that much water through it, even it it were uncapped and flowing at full capacity". When it made the tv, they said it was a mistake. But they were on the news a couple months later, admitting that they needed money in a bad way, and HAD to raise the bills, including a surcharge applied even if you don't use any water. Turns out that the lake is so low that all of the intake tunnels are high and dry, and they had to put in a new, hugely expensive tunnel all the way out under the deepest part of the lake to get the last of it. Coincidence? Not likely.
Ya ya I once knew a guy who was on vacation for a month and turned everything off and when he came home he owed the power company and the water corporation 30 thousand dollhairs they took his home and now he lives in a mansion on a hill psychedelic music fills the air its true I sar it on the news I am never going on vacation I don't want to live in a mansion hill or no hill I just leave everything on and running electricity and water they are going to charge me anyway DUH
In my state, the bill always reflected estimated entries. Usually it was read but a few times a year it would be estimated then it was corrected on on the next read.
Yep that comment seemed silly, Bill is based of estimates how they supposed to know you switch your electric off will just continue billing you based off your estimated monthly cycle until they turn up and see that you meet is not moved and they'll usually credit you back if it's more than in the UK £100 in credit but unsure what it's like in the USA
Simply a way to squeeze a bit more money out of you. They actually DO NOT cut off your power if you exceed the subscription; they simply automatically upgrade you to the next higher subscription. (it is against the law for them to un-announced cut off your power. They MUST by law notify you if your power is to be cut off. This is because of liability from people that use medical devices that must remain powered.)
My bill went from 150 in the dead of winter then they installed a smart meter an now my bill was 350 dollars now I'm installing solar to run my house a company wanted 10 grand doing it myself for 2000 dollars
Not all of us are as smart as you Mike Smith $2000 cost for solar with a savings of $350 a month. 6 months and you are making money. *MAKE SURE THEY GIVE YOU A NETMETER, NOT A REGULAR SMART METER* If they do a meter swap, watch this video on how the meter swap is done without putting you at a huge risk of fire. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-G0bq2Hn2vOo.html #1 If they install a smart meter and your power goes out, then they are an ARSONIST. In Canada, it is against the law, all smart meter swaps have to be BYPASSED to keep the power on. #2 If the customers UL certified meter base is NOT INSPECTED by a CERTIFIED electrician before the meter swap, they they are probably breaking the law and will increase the chance of your home burning down by a factor of 10,000 times. Remember, the only electrical device in your home that is NOT UL APPROVED is their smart meter. Why do you ask a smart meter is not UL APPROVED BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT BUILT STRONG ENOUGH TO MEET UL'S SAFETY REQUIREMENTS. They are only certified to measure power consumed.
lol a 2k Solar system? Microinverters are $160 a piece and panels maybe $200? Plus racking, conduit, etc. lets round it to $400 a panel. Maybe 500w of production per pannel, per year. For a total of 2500kwh. You need alot more solar panels dude. If you are in CA Your old $150 electric bill equates to about 750kwh a month. Which equals 9,000kwh, not 2500kwh. Those panels will cut your bill by maybe 25% not eliminate it. Unless you built your own solar panels too. But hey I applaud your effort, solar is the way to go, most people need help doing it.
In the uk they are selling the idea by giving you a separate pointless display gadget to “help you save power “by looking at what you use . I would hope to imagine most people know that switching on more lights and other items uses more units. Another way of control over the public by providing a grown up toy pice of crap to entice the idea. I will not be having one until the law demands it. Small power factor correction unit could possibly help if you are stuck with one?
christastic100 - I'm also in the UK and absolutely agree about your first point. We had one of these damned meters foisted on us about three years ago and have got sicker and sicker ever since. In your penultimate sentence you say that you won't be having one until the law demands it. Why do we put up with being dictated to. We should be more like the french, don our yellow vests and just say NO! We do not consent.
Totally agree with this. I've had a smart meter installed twice, on the second one the 'smart monitor' didn't even work and I ended up paying a huge final bill. Now I'm with a company that doesn't use these dodgy devices, for now at least
Some of the morons in this country out in Cali, signed up with Google where it controls everything in their homes. Google went down for a day so the brainwashed twits were locked out of their houses. I keep my phone powered off unless I need to contact someone. Using it as a flashlight to fix the furnace I'd laid it down on the ping pong table and 2 minutes later it started blaring a damn rap song! I never listen to rap and never listen to any music on that thing.
Another Issue - watched a tear down video and these smart meters and they can measure True, Apparent and Reactive power thanks to KVA billing. Simply put, you can be billed more for using the same wattage.
Thanks for posting this info. I have been expecting power companies to start charging for VA (Volt-Amperes) for some time now. In your example; 0.9 power factor, the generating capacity has to 11% above the RMS (Root Mean Square) value to supply this imperfect load. However, due to the long transmission line distance between the power generation point and your home, the power company has to actually supply many times that 11% due to the power lines radiating harmonics (which gets absorbed by anything nearby the power lines). I suspect power companies are getting squeezed by intense pressure to keep costs as low as possible yet, the demand for power keeps rising, which means they have to continuously update thousands of miles/kilometers of power lines to keep which is very expensive. I suspect the Smart Meters are one such attempt to more accurately measure actual of power. I also realize the power company could easily use this to their advantage. Speaking for myself, I have been concerned about power factor at home for about the past 5 years. I have been choosing appliances and light bulbs that have a power factor of 0.9 or higher. Not only is this good for the Grid, it also helps if we are without power due to a storm. That limited amount of power the generator produces goes farther.
I was intrigued by your comment about radiating harmonics losses. Resistive losses and hysteresis losses add up but I'm not familiar with harmonic losses. It appears you are talking about parasitic inductive loads to use a different term? Back to the reasoning behind higher losses during poor power factor load, air conditioning load is the worst culprit. AC units are an inductive (motors) load. This load usually happens during particularly high consumption periods. As heat losses from generator to consumer are current squared, the losses increase substantially during hot weather. It doesn't help that the circuits have higher resistance when warm, slightly aggravating the situation. Utilities have large capacitor banks that help but the losses do add up. Just for interest, during high inductive load, the generators have to increase their excitation current to provide more reactive power resulting in a different loss that isn't really measured. As a percentage, this loss is minimal. (more excitation current = more current to the magnetic poles to increase the magnetic field that passes across the output coils thus increasing the generator voltage)
I knew if I read enough comments I would find two guys that actually had a brain. Thank you both for some technical insight and a conspicuous lack of tinfoil hat conspiracy theories. Am I the only one that noticed, the "smart meters" we have in the states don't limit the current? He keeps talking about smart meters in France having a breaker that will trip at 45 amps. Maybe I just misunderstood? Also, I find it slightly amusing how the typical American 200-amp service is considered small by modern standards. And in France, 45 amps and seems to be the norm!
I found your video interesting, especially from the standpoint of how France requires a “subscription” level according to the service main size. Here in California, it doesn’t matter if you have a 100 amp or an 400 amp main, all residential customers (at least from our provider) pay the same rate for energy. Assuming they are on the same tariff. Tiered or time-of-use...you can choose either.
In Finland it is same in most places. In Helsinki it is 5.51 € up to 3x63 A. But in some places it can be for example 37.50 € for 3x25 A, 71 € for 3x35 A and 135 € for 3x63 A. It is not uncommon to have 3x25 A even with electric heating. They then make so that when you turn the sauna on the heating goes off. You of course pay also for energy you use. Also joining the network is more expensive te larger the main fuse.
My bill has been about the same with the smart meter. I always look to conserve my electricity usage and one day they came out to replace my new smart meter because they said the other one had quit working. My bills are still about the same...so I wonder if they thought it wasn't working because the bill wasn't high enough or if there is something they have that tells them about our meters?
I'm 75 & I live in a small city and a few years ago, they sent a questionnaire asking if we wanted to switch to a smart meter. Of course I sent back an emphatic 'No!.' Now, today, I hear someone banging on my back wall. He sees me & comes around to my door. I ask what's going on & he says they're installing smart meters. I told him that I opted out & he said that he didn't know about that & they were installing them all over. (Young guy & he probably wasn't around for the questionnaire.) I told him that I didn't like that idea, and he said that only I could access it and i said, 'if I can, they can!' We went back & forth for a while and then I told him to do me a favor & please check it out online. He acted like a little boy, head down, shuffling his feet and kicking at the dirt and then said, "Well, I'm not a liberal or anything.". 😂😂. I almost burst out laughing, but I just said, 'Well, it sounds like a liberal.' 😂
@@markdaicz3048 it was an article from a paper, three months ago roughly, it was read on mark ceylon's channel, one of the three, Mark seylon or srilankerc.
I'm buying electricity - not selling my information. You may just as well have a damn camera and microphone in the house - oh, with the IoT, you got it! And a remote limit / kill switch with 10,000 radio bursts an hour? Yeah, that really is tech working FOR me.
Thanks I recently got a 1700.00 bill. They can not tell me how it's happened. I have 3 window ac units and a mini fridge lol. It's still at 400 a month. 10c kwh
@Dave Micolichek Trust me when I say Smart meters do tend to be more expensive. They offer these cheap 'night rates' but make up for it with expensive rates during the times when you're actually using the power. Also, since they know when you consume the most electric, they can also sneakily change the rate at any time, charging you the higher rate at any point without you being any the wiser. So, yes, the meter is largely to blame.
and yet nobody talks about the additional features or the sudden disappearance of many short term outages... its like with new smart grids they can better balance power across the electrical network... and cut off fallen lines and other issues.... you also dont need a disconnect in some instances as the smart meter is now both... so when you run solar its not a major hassle...
@@Tom_Neverwinter i have tiny outages after the smart meter was installed, pretty annoying. Never had them in the past. Its a lot more frequent that the news talk about outages in large areas for several hours now than ever before... Depressing, its like walking backwards
Two so-called 'smart meters' installed with a solar power system, on the transformers, immediately made me so sick I had to move out. Avoid smart meters!!
Last week I finally got rid of my smart meter after 9 years. When they put it in, I was renting and so it would have been hard for me to get rid of. But I bought the place 3 years ago. They are rolling out 5G where I live in Florida and it has been making me sick. So I have been looking for other ways to reduce my exposure. A huge ping every two minutes. If I had know I would have found a way to get rid of it years ago. OPT OUT!
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When the California power company started installation of smart meters, I put a new analog meter in series after the power company's meter. Photographed the two daily and establish a relationship between them. I was ready for their shenanigans. Then we were allowed to opt out, which we did. Still have an analog meter today.
So basically, the power company wants to charge everyone for their power loses due to grid resistance. Instead of getting paid for individual consumer usages.
EXACTLY JAMES! Losses in the system were always classed as cost of business but they want us to pay for their inefficiency! The other problem and I KNOW this happens because I used to wear an energy suppliers uniform. As I got out of the truck an old pensioner complained to me that his bill had jumped enormously since a smart meter was installed in his humble abode. He had done nothing new except replace and old "gas guzzling" fridge with a new higher star rated fridge. After listening to his story I believe the further your home is from the power source, the more apparent power you use so in this example his bill is more for the same usage as a home situated next to the transformer both are drawing from. Using one of those fancy wireless kWH meters you can get for your home so you can gauge your usage is now not proof enough that you didn't incur the cost to the power company to supply your power and will not help your case because as the fellow in this vid says, they measure in kVA now. So you can jump up and down but they are measuring what is needed to supply your home, not what you actually consumed. Although the new smart meter measures your actual power usage more accurately and that's usually bad luck for us it ALSO adds in the losses the power company used to have to deal with. All said and done we all have to watch what we use and try to limit usage. The Earth can't handle an endless number of power suckers that we are becoming. Somethings gotta give so take the big hint, reduce your power consumption.
@@jed2055 It has nothing to do with distance from generation etc. Your power factor is dependent on your equipment and nothing else. What can happen is that the voltage you receive may reduce if there is seriously high inductive loads in the area, it pulls down the voltage. The costs of transmission loss is always included somewhere along the line. The only reason that people are paying more, is that the old meter was under reading.
@@@Eddiecurrent2000 I got hysteresis when I read your reply. Fact is many transmission cables are continually being upgraded to reduce power loss through resistance. Resistance increases over distance and temperature. I not only worked as a linesman but prior to that I completed my apprenticeship as a sparky. We had to upsize conductors to enable better voltage to the customer. Lower voltages means inefficient power usage. IE appliances working at lower voltages use more power. When we introduced aluminium we had to increase the diameter because as you know it has a higher resistance than copper for any given length. Part of the load on a system is the built-in resistance of the conductors on each supply line. Here in Queensland Australia we run overland transmission lines at 500,000v to a) keep conductor size down and b) reduce the percentage of voltage drop. Voltage drop is caused by resistance. So the drop is factored in and measurable. Power stealers have been caught because the voltage drop has increased. People thought they could drive a big transformer under the line out in the boonies pick up voltage inductively and not get caught. This action adds resistance to the line and introduces measurable increases in voltage drop changes as it is monitored at the source and destination. These thieves are always caught. As for inductance, whoot! When working on 11kV HV lines that ran more or less parallel with overhead 330,000v transmission lines, we had to earth what we were working on all over the place or cop belts on any metallic object on the pole that was electrically connected to the line. But I digress, voltage drop is the big issue with transmission and with smart meters we the consumer will pay for the losses. I thought that was fairly obvious to anybody familiar with electricity. From: www.engineeringtoolbox.com/kva-reactive-d_886.html Apparent Power - S. The apparent power is the power supplied to the electric circuit - typical from a power supplier to the grid - to cover the real and reactive power consumption in the loads. Thanks for your reply eddiecurrent. I do get amped up about electricity.
*Supply (SMPS) Dirty Electricity ~ When current flows through the wiring of a building it generates a surrounding electro-magnetic field that radiates outward all around the wires at right angles to the direction of the current’s flow and reaches out into the room. It is well known that switching power supplies can generate spikes of so-called electromagnetic interference (EMI), or high frequency transients, which then travel along the wiring in the walls, radiating outward in the wiring’s electromagnetic field. Such spikes are known as ‘dirty electricity’ and can be conducted to a human body that is within the range of the radiating field. This function is on all smart meters used by all utilities and is on constantly, 24/7.* *Concerning “smart” meters: Dr. Martin Blank, Associate Professor, Department of Physiology and Cellular Biophysics, Columbia University: “Cells in the body react to E.M.F.’s as potentially harmful, just like any other environmental toxins, including heavy metals and toxic chemicals. The D.N.A. in living cells recognizes electromagnetic fields at very low levels of exposure [not covered by current outdated laws]; and produces a biochemical stress response. The scientific evidence tells us that our safety standards are inadequate, and that we must protect ourselves from exposure to E.M.F. due to power lines, cells phones and the like, or risk the known consequences. The science is very strong and we should sit up and pay attention.”*
Bet Dr. Blank has a cell phone, probably more than one, uses lots of different electronic devices in his house, watches a TV, and uses WiFi connections for his computer. How about the emissions from all the stars in the universe and the decay of naturally occurring radioactive elements. Love the sky is falling used by those wanting fame and fortune. Wonder why he is ONLY an associate professor? Where is his boss and what he thinks of Dr. Blank's statements? BS to the max. Living is dangerous to your health. You ARE GOING TO DIE. Just a question of when and how. Get used to it.
In the US you only pay for what you actually use, in some areas you may pay a minimum amount even if you use less or a service fee plus actual usage but it is not based on a subscription for the maximum power usage available to you. Another thing, 45 Amps seems kind of low, is that common in France? Most breaker boxes here are either 100 amps or on newer homes 200 amps.
Yeah, a single-phase 45A connection at 230V is pretty common for apartments and homes (which are typically smaller). But then, the French are generally frugal and try to save electricity at all times.
I really get and enjoy your humor! Very refreshing, especially on a tech site! I don't get, however what you are saying; not because of poor conveyance... it's ME! Example: Every time a technician would service my heat pump, they always felt compelled to explain the physics of how it worked (possibly because I'm a nice guy) & they seemed to think if I understood this, that perhaps I could save $$$ and do some maintenance myself. I always listened attentively until there were done and afterwards I never understood a WORD! Even though thru the years it's been explained a dozen times. P.S. I live in U.S. I don't detect an accent...France?!? Really!
I used to be a mechanic and currently work in telecom, and a lot of the time, we're just used to explaining what we're doing and why we're doing it. A lot of people are "helicopter" customers that just HAVE to know the whats and whys and how things work, either out of general curiosity, or because they think they can catch us trying to take shortcuts, etc.
These meters almost killed me. Forced me into early menopause bc the radiation is sooooooo vicious. These meters are population control. 3 weeks after installation of 9 meters across the hall from my unit, I could no longer walk, speak, lift my head, my skin was burnt, my brain was so fried it was making electronic noises, (didn’t know a brain could do that) my finger nails were separating from my fingers, I was violently vomiting, my body was so hot it was like worse than the worst fever, I was forced to not sleep more than 2 hours every 3-5 days, (and when I did sleep I could dream of fire related things, faces melting, walking over hot lava, etc. bc my body was communicating to me through the visuals in my dreams), nausea and depression like you’ve never imagined a human could feel, and more. My medical tests showed connective tissue damage, lung damage, kidney damage, liver damage, brain damage, and digestive system damage. The month before, my tests were healthy as could be. Took me about 7 weeks to recover, (which medical tests showed I was healing) after I had been rushed out of my apartment to a safe place to heal for those 7 weeks. I have been in hotels and friends houses and my office for 6 months trying to find a place to live that even if I opt out, that the neighbors meters won’t hurt me, bc once you are that badly blasted you can no longer be around even one. I know this bc I went to look at a home to live in (the sixth one) to see if I could live in it and her one meter on her 1600 sq ft townhouse, along with the neighbors’ meters on each of those townhouses, totaling 3 meters, after standing in her place for 20-30 minutes talking to the owner of the place, I re-injured myself. Medical tests showed that I had done it again. Injury to all my organs. These power companies need to be sued into oblivion and beyond. I am now being forced into menopause from the radiation. After the second bout of exposure, my cycles are not returning.
Um, this is nothing to do with the smart better and power factor. There's just a tighter tolerance on the breaker. It should have been set to 39.1A if it was supposed to limit you to 9kW. The breaker doesn't care about power factor. It's only looking at current.
Right, except the old main breakers weren't so adjustable. They were only adjustable to certain values. 3-phase breakers were typically adjustable to 20, 30, 40, 50, or 60A per phase. Single phase was usually 15, 25, 35 or 45A limit. So, for 9kW, they set it to 45A. That was nice. Now they're setting it precisely to 39.1A since the smart meters here can do that. Since we don't have massive hundred-amp hookups here as standard, people have to pay more for a beefier subscription. On top of it they say the smart meters are free, but they're actually passing the cost onto the consumer. And then on top of THAT, it turns out the power company here (which is the only choice where I live), did some evil financial nonsense with loans so that they were gonna pass an additional $500 million onto consumers. They got caught on that one, altho I don't think the case is over yet. The same has been repeated in at least 2 other countries I know of.
Except... the electric company charges a monthly fee to Come to the house to read the meter if you refuse to switch. That fee starts and then goes up. To Chuck Howard (below). In my area the electricity is 23 cents a KW and BECAUSE I have a SMART METER they can monitor what time I use electricity and how much I use. My billing rate jumps up to more than double between 5PM and 8PM. How much does it change?....it goes to 47 cents/ kW. This is the time when families come home from work and need electricity. The electric company is in a much better position. They can exploit your need, lay off 98% of the meter readers, charge you for KVA and therefore you pay more and get less, and if you dont let them put their meter on the house then that extra $10 for reading your meter is likely to go up.
915 Megahertz. By-the-way. It is legal for citizens to use this band. It is somewhat short range. Some toy manufacturers such as remote control boats and cars use this band. Main disadvantage of smart meters is the electric company can charge you more for power between 7:00 A.M and 9:00 A.M and between 5:00 P.M and 8:00 P.M. if you have any substantial inductance loading the power input, the phase between the voltage and current is not zero. The electric company has occasional capacitors mounted to its poles, to compensate for that.
Their losses in THEIR LINES is not my problem. My agreement starts at my meter, not the power meter at the power plant, 20 km away. They should buy copper lines, not aluminum too transmit power. Copper transmits with less heat, that is less a loss. Fight out man.
Aluminum is actually a pretty decent conductor, and is 1/2 the weight and 1/3 the cost. They also use a 50% larger diameter cable than would be used with copper, so the loss is exactly the same. Electricity would be RIDICULOUSLY expensive if copper were used.
Pretty simple. The meter is always online, transmitting data, monitoring etc, and is using YOUR energy to maintain itself. I'd demand proof its not eating your own power and its measuring correctly. If not then theres ways to either demand paying the historic amount or not at all and take it to the ombudsman
@@sneakyguy4444 It does not use your energy at all, they take their supply before they monitor your consumption, and they do not transmit all the time, but in short bursts once a day when they upload, and when they handshake with the local cell site.
If you GREATLY reduce your electric (or natural gas) consumption because you insulated your house... bought highly efficient air conditioner... etc etc... THEN the company will ASSUME your meter is broken because your consumption is far less than last year. THEN they will simply charge you according to what usage you had LAST YEAR during the same month!! Isn't that NICE of them to do that (not). This makes all your efforts to REDUCE YOUR BILL POINTLESS!! They did that to me with my natural gas usage one year.... and my electric usage another year. I seriously doubt my meters went bad.... they just have standard policies & procedures that screw the consumer when we become frugal users of their product!
They wanted to put one in here, I told them no way I don't want one. Lucky because my 50 year old meter has worn a bearing out and spins slow. Every 1400 kWh thru the meter equals 1kwh on the meter. I'm happy with that.
+Bro Tang You're a complete and utter moron. You will have to comply with a replacement, since this one will NEVER be certified in any way. And then they will calculate your usage back for the last 15 years and you are completely fucked.
I worked as a meter technician for many years. A guy told me that a meter he once had spun FASTER as it got older . He got a friend to check it out and submitted his findings to the local electricity board and they quickly replaced his meter. He subsequently received a refund of £50. That was in the 1950s !!
I am not sure about the health effects. But I heard that"smart meters" can cut your power remotely. This enable the power company to avoid peak power plants.
Speaking of which in terms of cutting off power during Peak demand. They should go back to do metered systems and have non-critical loads on one and everything else on the other. You know in other countries they have to do right meters. N15 Paragould houses we actually originally had to meet even though there was only one family living there. One meter was the stare of meter for everything but one device. The other device was a 50 gallon electric hot water heater. It was on a meter that had it in a new grid time switch. A k a timer that was set before the meter was installed. It would only turn on during certain times of day. The excess to set the timer which is a mechanical timer was sealed. Times of day were fixed bike Rippers inside the meter fishbowl. But there was a flat head screw like thing on the shaft to set the time to the proper time wish I had a cover that had a meter seal through it. Also later on at the newer house still in Wisconsin by the way. They offered a program where there was a meter that was an off-peak meter that registered power at different times at different cost per kilowatt hours. Basically you'd use what you could it was Heavy loads at night and are hours of off-peak use. We actually wind up using Climbers on heavy appliances. We actually had a heavy duty outdoor lighting timer on our dehumidifier even. Also I was tempted to build a device and hook into the washing machine and dryer so that we could turn him on without being there at the right time. Now with the capability of doing smart grid things like that can be set up automatically on some appliances. Under smart grid settings. Or something somewhere.
Every home that had SMART meters in California burned. Homes that didn't have them didn't burn. Trees didn't burn either, neither did plastic trash bins.
Thanks for explaining the power factor in layman's terms, I now have a much clearer understanding of the reasons of avoiding having a smart meter installed.
John Lockwood I just bought one haven’t received it yet but my daughter room is where the smart meter is located and she’s been feeling real ill since we moved here a year ago. Mine is in my backyard so how will the get to it if I’m not home and my dog is in the back😬
This doesn't apply in Canada. Large industrial customers pay KVA but residential customers pay only for Watts. Furthermore we don't have the 45Amp breaker you talked about. The current is only limited by the main breaker in your electrical panel inside your home which is usually 200amp or 400amp.
Ah that makes sense, I was just wondering how I get away with using an 8.5kw electric shower, at the same time as a 3kw electric heater plus all the other smaller loads without blowing the 45 amp fuse.
@@wongowonga as the main inlet fuse belongs to the electricity supplier and is tamper protected and always live you have to call them out to replace it. My 55 year old one gave up the ghost about 10 years ago and not sure if the fuse was to blame or the holder but both were replaced
@@wongowonga I have been an electrician for about 25 years and have never seen a 45 amp main breaker. NEVER. The smallest I have every seen is 100 amp for a main. Also water heaters only use one heating element at a time, Never two. if your water heater has two elements it is only to switch from the bottom element to the top element for fast hot water recovery, but they never both work at the same time.
@@wongowonga I should have said I am in the USA, Most homes here are 200 amp main service, My home is smaller so I have a 100 amp / 220 volt main, that is 2 lines of 110 volt that are 180 degrees out on single phase.
You probably have a 1 phase 110v American hookup. We have, in the Netherlands, 3 phase 230v. Normal households have a 32A fuse per phase.Putting us close to your 1x 110v 200A connection. We also have older homes with 1 phase. But they generally are on an 80A fuse.
would be 10 hours at 6000 watts, 26 amps at 240 volts, about the same draw as the common US electric clothes dryer, my car only has a 25 kilowatt hour battery but I only charge at 3000 watts since my first Leaf only could charge at that rate
You touched on the monitoring of power use against time, some of these meters can differentiate between different equipment so the power companies can gather substantial data bases of your occupancy and what your doing. Imagine the benefit of knowing your occupancy routine to a telemarketer for example. We need someone to build a damper or filter device to strip out the info before it gets to the power company.
LC does not appear to be advocating tampering with the meter itself. Just some sort of device that would "scramble (for lack of a better term) any appliance-specific signatures before they reach the meter. The actual power consumed (and recorded) would not change and the power company would not lose any billing revenue. What they would lose is any potential side revenue gained by selling your personal habits/information to 3rd parties. There is literally no legitimate reason why the power company needs to know anything about your usage habits aside from peak load times.
Bregil, there is so much ignorance and disinformation about what a smart meter can do. Those meters don't have the capacity to capture appliance specific consumption, other than perhaps the water heater, oven, furnace or air conditioner. Those are big loads and consume large peak current. That information is USELESS to anyone but the power company. They don't sell that data because no one cares when your water heater kicks on. What you need to be concerned about are things like Alexa that LISTENS TO YOU AT ALL TIMES. Or your web browsers that keep track of the things you search for or shopping sites you visit.
I completely agree with you on the privacy threat that web browsers and "services" like Alexa pose. It's very much a challenge these days to even attempt to live a life that doesn't involve someone tracking your every move for ad revenue.........
You are nothing more than an ignorant fear monger spreading FUD. A smart meter has no way of determining what devices in a home are drawing power. A smart meter is recording what the old meter recorded; the total amount of power use since the last reading The utilities could have always sold that data to anyone in the past, however people are making shit up because they don't know a damned thing.. No doubt there will come time when new or remodeled build will be wired to support load management, but that's years into the future. Interfere with the utilities billing could get someone disconnected.
