I watched SMG4 starting all the way back in about 2012-2013-ish. RU-vid content was still not as finely produced as it's become today, and my pre-teen self was fine with that. It was dumb, reference filled humor. And that's what I recall SMG4 starting as; dumb humor from the mind of a then-teen. And things were good and funny for years. But then the ad-pocalypse happened and by this point, SMG4 was uploading consistently every week, so he was probably deciding to be in it for the long haul, so it probably hit him hard. I remember the first time I was really struck by the decreasing passion from the channel, and that was when they started to censor themselves. Part of the reference humor was the swearing, as low-tier humor as that might be. It really bothered me, and I remembered commenting on the videos hoping it wasn't permanent, at first starting as a joke, but it quickly took a different tone when I saw it was here to stay. On top of this, the 'Stupid Mario' or 'If Mario was in' series was getting too dumb for me. I'm sure some of it had to do with maturity, but I know a big reason was how distant they were growing from the source material they were parodying. Like some episodes were becoming extended Family Guy cutaway gags; like yeah, they might be funny, but it's so detached from the story it begs the question 'why?'. Now this obviously didn't apply to all of their stories, but an alarmingly high number of them. At this point, I unsubscribed. I like to check in on channels I used to watch. "I liked them at one point, maybe I was too harsh on them before..." I will tell myself. But this was always disappointment. And a shock. The fucking anime overload on the channel was and probably is what hurts it the most. Starting with Meggy's redesign. It hurts to look at. She was an inkling and apparently still has connections to Inkopolis, why change the design? I really liked the character for her appearances. One of my favorite episodes was "Wild Wild Mario", and it made sense to have her since Inklings wield guns and Meggy demonstrated to be a good sharpshooter. But now she's crammed in to every single thing, it seems. And I have to look at that stupid redesign. Then there's Saiko, who's existence and attention is bitter irony. She's a parody of Monika from Doki Doki Literature Club, a character who does what she does to seek attention from the player, and now she's given a ton of screen time, defeating the purpose of her existence. And then Tari, the most bait-y character of them. She's the shy, gamer girl oc for all of the viewers to fawn over. What more is there to say? And then came Hobo Bros. Well, Hobo Bros. was already well established by this point, but in this story it came next. I always thought of it as Kevin's channel, but now that I think about it, some of the stuff in there feels like Kevin rules that channel with an iron first. From forcing his brother to play scary games to having videos focus on him entirely and stealing the spotlight in reaction videos. Dude literally took the 'bros.' out of Hobo Bros., and some of the stuff feels borderline abusive. Like, I'm an older brother who lives with regret over forcing my little brother to do things and I'm seeing things I did when I was like 8 reflected in this grown ass man. Now, I must admit, a lot of the changes and their links to Kevin flew under my radar. No clue about the connections, but now it ads up. I'll give a quick rundown on everything I can recall from the top of my head. 1. A while after the Hobo Bros channel goes live, SMG4 starts censoring itself. On top of this, episodes focused on trends are forced out, resulting in sloppy content that has almost nothing to do with the source material. Clickbait, in other words. 2. GLITCH Productions establishes itself on the SMG4 channel, with a credit before the SMG4 logo. This also destroys Glitchy Boy productions, or rather replaces it. 3. Meggy's redesign comes out and the Meta Runner show by GLITCH Productions is announced. Said show stars Tari. Merchandise for both appear on an online shop, but I forget if it's strictly the SMG4 shop, or GLITCH Productions. This is obviously done due to the positive responses the characters get and someone (likely Kevin) sees their marketing potential. Kevin is a likely suspect as new merch is constantly announced shortly after Hobo Bros. becomes a thing and every ad was filmed on the Hobo Bros couch, a channel that seems primarily ran by Kevin. 4. The anime arcs begin appearing in the SMG4 series, the most prominent of the time being the Waluigi arc. From what I remember, Kevin referenced anime way more than anyone else on the Hobo Bros. channel. This could be a sign that, since Luke is having to help manage more channels, Kevin is having more of a say in the SMG4 content, if not also apparent by the Meggy redesign. 5. The Meta Runner show launches and has two whole seasons. Meggy gets her own show. The SMG4 profile picture is changed twice, from the SMG4 model we all knew and loved to the SMG4 logo, but that probably wasn't marketable enough, so now it's something else. I don't feel like Luke is totally to blame for this. He clearly had a strong thing going and didn't want to disappoint people when the money stopped rolling in due to the nature of his content and RU-vid censorship. But there has definitely been an influencer who's changed the channels for worse, and it's the leech that is his brother, a guy who first started helping film the irl skits for SMG4, now the puppet master of pretty much everything... This comment took like half an hour to write, so if you made it here you get a cookie.
Old SMG4 is a treasure. No anime, no unnecessarily dramatic arcs, no voice acting, original designs and just a bunch of funny stuff put together. I guess all good things come to an end.
every smg4 video these days is the same jokes, the same sound clips ("you are dead, not big surprise"), the same stretched out gmod faces i miss when his videos always threw something completely unexpected at me that would make me die laughing
@@furiousstudios4438 and one I watched the entirety of. It’s basic. Maybe if I gave 2 shits, heck even half a shit about meggy and desti and the r34 of them that exists somewhere I dare not search, I can’t remember a thing, except it failed. I can’t remember any jokes, nothing. I just remember the basic ass plot. Also I dislike meggy’s human design. It’s in the uncanny valley I think.
*Fact: Having SMG4 Bad in your title gets you more views but more of a dislike ratio. But not having SMG4 Bad in your title, gets you less views but far less of a dislike ratio. By Coincidence of course.*
It's only because of how ironically accurate you make this out to be than it already is and how crazily you describe it through out the characters in the video.
The sadest part is the kevin with smg4 chair I don't know if it was accidental or not, but seeing how the SMG4 chair is transparent really gives you the feel that kevin is the one running the channel now. Sometimes I wish he never found that his little brother was having success in youtube
Ok, so some original context: the transparent once-ler is his consincness convincing him to keep on making the disicions he makes in the 1972 original. and before some one uses the 🤓 emoji. No u
How it should've gone after Splatoon: Meggy becomes more of a reference fill in character like how SMG4 (sadly) treats the old cast, Tari was a temporary character, Doki Doki episode was an actual DDLC parody to prevent Saiko, Fishy Boopkins and Bob remain as 4th tier main cast. Comedic arcs are made. And the old cast stays the same. To bad Toad and the others are gone, his parody ego versions of them were actually funny.
What the hell happened? Toad's gone? And what others? Is Bowser gone too? Wario? Peach? Waluigi? Bob? FISHY BOOPKINS? *SMG3* ? I'm pretty sure Meggy and Tari are still there, because of course they are, but who got cut?
This video speaks to me. I haven't watched SMG4 in years and it's more clear why. Kevin keeps adding more to his channel, yet dropping older things such as characters, spin offs, etc. His channel now is a mere husk of what it used to be and its driving off old fans. The content he makes doesn't really feel the same as it was back then.
When I watch Smg4 today, I always gets contradictory feelings: on one hand, the core of his comedy has remained very much intact, and we can say that making a storyline was a great idea. The Waluigi arc was fantastic, and let's be honest all the others are good for character development. But on the other hand... Smg4 has changed. It's no more a simple meme channel: it's a growing business. A business that makes money, and lots of money. Hell, they even sponsor other animators. It happened with Vivziepop, and it's happening now with Liam Vickers... But you want to know the worst part about these feelings? I already knew it would happen. It was inevitable for them to start growing as a company. I can't say the quality has remained the same, but cmon, it's a 10 years old channel, what would you expect? Remember Pewdiepie? Same thing. All things considered, Smg4 is simply becoming famous. And he will certainly not stop, after a decade he finally got the fame he wanted! Wouldn't we all do the same things he did if we were him?
@@liamgames3198 they never did, I just said that to make an example. Look before and after they made the Hazbin hotel pilot: they changed significantly, due to the increase of attention and budget, and they never stop to market their products. This is, again, similar to Smg4, and Liam is following a similar path as well. Might be the fault of Capitalism, all things considered
I popped off on watching there content around when maggy was becoming more of a mean character. shortly after i unsubscribed because I wasn't there video's any. Eventually youtube stopped recommending me SMG4'S video's altogether. Just recently I had been watching like this one, showing just far down the channel has gone to. it's pretty sad to learn about this. All because of corporate greed, youtubes horrible censorship, how the divided the community because, and how the creators see the past work as mistakes that deserves to be mock.
@Shyontheinternet99 I don't think I'll be able to recover knowing that so many characters were openly killed and the fanbase openly supporting this change as if it's natural.
@Shyontheinternet99 Like I respect his work and all, but the fact that he's going various lanes to destroy the things that made him popular to begin with is worrying the hell out of me. At this point, he should just drop the smg4 series and focus on Glitch.
Honestly if I ever had the passion again, I’d redo it. The metaphorical underlying message might evolve from more of how SMG4 changed to fit modern media (and kid demographic), and an evolution of that of how SMG4 turned into a engineered producer per weekly money maker for GLITCH productions passion projects. The original message of these two videos is more basic, in his a business model changed the production from passion, to job. This is basically a trilogy with How Bad and some WW2 Fashwave parody video, although that was striked so I will have to redo it all entirely. If I ever work on it, I’d put all 3 videos together, with Fashwave having something else other than WW2 clips.
In my opinion the main problem is Kevin. He lost interest in making good smg4 content a long time ago and now uses it as a host to feed his poorly animated parasite-meta runner-sucking the life out of smg4 and filling it's decaying corpse with as much anime shit as possible. The best thing for smg4 would be if Luke kicked out Kevin and his team, then separate glitch from smg4 forever so Luke can go back to creating good content and glitch can continue shitting out meta runner which will eventually die without the success of smg4 to leech of. This hiatus they're going on could fix smg4 or put the final nail in the coffin.
This hit me really hard and made me really question the state of smg4 and whether i was really enojoy smg4's content or just hanging on for the hope it would bring me the joy it once did.
This is too true. The old smg4 had jokes that were actually clever and there wasn’t that much meme jokes and if there was they picked memes with staying power. The new smg4 picks random dead memes and the range of jokes are just anime, Mario is dumb jokes or repetitive and if they had an actual good joke they would just rehash over and over and over again.
When you start relying on vids for money, that’s when shit goes down hill. It starts off as an innocent project that you just do for fun. The minute you turn it into a business, passion is lost, vids become forced and you try to satisfy the fans instead of yourself...idk that’s my take on this
are you stupid? if this wasn't a career, he'd probably stop making videos. very few people are actually make money from animation on youtube these days. if you were a real SMG4 fan, you'd be proud of him for finding success were very few people don't.
@@shingosawatarihgx8345 Yeah but you got to admit, the new stuff just isn't as good as the old stuff. There was some kind of charm of how crude the quality was on the old videos that the new ones really didn't. And if you want to use the "This person/company is successful so they must have good content" card, two words, Jimmy Kimmel. I rest my case.
Bwhaaaa bwhaaa bwhaaa (In my opinion, SMG4 declined from the Waluigi arc, wanting to be taken seriously when it is known that comedy can never be taken seriously, but there were still good videos like Big Chungus or Deltarune, But the arc of the anime was definitely the last straw, and unfortunately all the weight of guilt is carried by Meggy, since not only did they make her more of a protagonist than she was, but they began to overexploit her to the point of being alone a money machine, and to top it all they adapted the whole series and the characters to the new Meggy, doesn't that remind you of The Odd Fairyparetns since they introduced Chloe?)
Agreed, smg4 was never made to be taken seriously. That was never the intention. I get that they are practically printing money, and maybe the shows they have meant to be serious are good, but I am holding off on them because I watch things I know I will like usually
I always considered myself a fan of SMG4. Even during times where others had issues, I still enjoyed it. But, over time, so many little things started piling up that made me not enjoy it nearly as much as I used to. Censoring swear words, characters that I really didn't like (chief among them being Mr. Monitor), jokes that fall flat, character personalities going in unappealing directions, and memes becoming not just called attention to, but plot relevant story elements. That last one may seem odd, but, the memes never needed to be directly referred to in universe, because they were just fine the way they were: as simple window dressing. Now, not only are they directly referenced in-universe almost every other episode, which makes me enjoy them much less, but they've even become important to the story as some sort of "universal building block", which is just the worst kind of stupid. Also, the fact that I've become a lot more jaded towards memes in general over the years hasn't done them any favors-admittedly, that's more a personal taste issue that isn't exactly their fault, but it bears mentioning. And, since they tend to use whatever memes are currently popular, that just raises the possibility of them rubbing me the wrong way with a meme I absolutely despise to an absolute certainty-one example that comes to mind is the climax of the Anime Arc, where the solution was a certain someone whose name I've pretty much outlawed in my mind to keep my blood from constantly being at a rolling boil. Oh, and, speaking of anime, the anime jokes they use just come off as vapid and only showing a surface level at best understanding of the shows they're making jokes about, causing me to groan every time it happens. At the end of the day, SMG4 just isn't funny to me anymore. I mean, I can at least get a little invested in the stories of the arcs, but, when it comes to the regular episodes, I just can't bring myself to even grin 90 percent of the time. But, I don't think they're a total lost cause. For one thing, their older episodes still hold up perfectly well, and they still make me laugh! Even if they don't look back fondly on that era, I still enjoy it. And, for another, I actually do enjoy Glitch Productions' other work. I enjoyed Meta Runner and Sunset Paradise (even if people detest the latter), and I'm really looking forward to Murder Drones. So, even if SMG4 is disappointing nowadays, I still have hope for Glitch's other endeavors.
i never liked that "super meme guardian" retcon stuff, even if i was so busy complainining about the thousands of other things i hate about the current state of the channel, that i never even mention it you make a good point the "memes" were funny as something thrown in randomly, not as something present by sheer obligation
one problem I have with modern SMG4 that not a lot of people talk about is how they did Peach dirty. she used to be Mario's comic foil. whenever Mario did something stupid, she'd be the one to smack some sense into him. figuratively and literally. but now, since SMG4 has these new female characters, he's gotta make Peach unlikeable so the new girls look good. they also keep reusing the same screaming sound effect for her and it's really annoying. *sarcastically* sure, Peach may be a b*tch now, but at least Meggy, Saiko, Tari and Melony look good. they're holy. they would never do anything wrong (sarcasm ends here). also, I heard that there are Glitch Nazis responding to comments on this video.
Despite the possibility of you not seeing this comment, I just wanted to say wow. What an amazingly well put together video. I think that this has to be one of the best criticisms yet on modern SMG4 (now Glitch). Bravo.
God, do I miss the early days of RU-vid. It was not as much about money, it was about the fans. Now, SMG4 looks too “Good” for a channel that was supposed to be about that simple comedy.
To be honest i think in about a few years smg4 will have nothing in the end and he will sit in his chair regretting everything that he has done but hey none of us will care i mean its sad yes, but we try to tell him that he needs to improve himself and get rid of shitty characters and bring back humour but he just doesn't listen.
a lot of people like the new characters, and the newer videos have plenty of humor. the channel is doing great. he shouldn't listen to toxic people who just scream "meggy bad"
@@shingosawatarihgx8345 Explain why you think it's toxic to point out a flawed character with no reasons to be in the show? Is anyone disliking modern smg4 a toxic person to you? Constantly labeling people toxic is just as annoying as sjw calling someone "Racist" if they disagree with their agenda
@@Monhamd1000 Nah, SMG4 went downhill a long time ago long before Amazing Digital Circus. People have different theories on when things went downhill. Still, I think SMG4 went downhill after The Waluigi Arc, when SMG4 started to focus more on dark stories and internet trends to prioritize staying trendy over actual comedy. Also, that's when SMG4 introduced Glitch Production, which led to the overall downfall and corporate greed.
@@Monhamd1000 Also Amazing Digital Circus wasn't created by SMG4, it was created by Gooseworx. Glitch Productions only produced it, but they didn't make it. So, that was Gooseworx's fault
I used to be really engaged with the story arcs back then, same with the new characters and Meggy’s movie. I always talked about SMG4 with my friends at school. It was a great time. But then something happened and I just can’t look at SMG4 the same way. I watched Meta Runner when the episodes where being released. But after Season 1, I just moved on. Not to mention after the anime arc (or was it the Waluigi Arc), I felt like I was dragging myself every day to watch SMG4. All because I was looking for something to laugh at, just like back then. It just felt like going to a dried up well for water. I expected water in the well, but it’s only litter. No matter how much I come back, what I was looking for wasn’t there anymore. In case if I have to spell it out, the water means the 2014-17 era.
For me it feels more like dragging myself forward following smg4 with all of the new fans being closer to him while im far back but not very far every time i watch a new video only to be disappointed, and every time that disappointment feels like an arrow to the back, and there have been plenty of disappointments, so much to the point to where you would have to use a stick to keep yourself up, and with each arrow, the distance grows farther and farther, and i don't want to even think of the day to where an arrow strong enough can force me to collapse, the video that would make me drop the smg4 series and it's entirety.
How do you top one perfect smg4/lorax analogy? with another equally perfect one of course. I reinforce my point fro last time that the changes to the channel _could_ have been okay, but they went about it completely wrong and just alienated people to the point of basically civil war. A shame really.
while i prefer the other version this one is just as great, it also kinda explains to me more how smg4 changed for the worse Edit: I no longer think the other version is better, i now prefer this one lol
For me the channel got worse when Saiko appeared and with the arc of RU-vid and the Anime I think that there was the real house of the channel making videos without grace now and focusing on arcs and arcs.
It's quite sad how smg4 has just declined in quality over the years! Now I am not saying that there are not a few decent or perhaps even good videos at all but it just became worse than it original was!
I miss still watching smg4s older content when I was in middle school it was never about making money at that time it was trying to be funny and entertaining now it's just about merch and new characters and trying to be rwby in gmod
i kinda think that the point at which smg4 really went downhill is when melony became a character, melony is just such a useless side character who does not need to exist, and should have only been around for one episode. But it doesn't really matter I dont watch smg4 anymore
As someone who still watches SMG4, not often, I can confirm this is true. The notifications every Saturday at afternoon keep popping and I sometimes don't watch them, they want to expand the Genesis Arc way too much as well as give way too much attention to Melony, which I stopped liking after the episode where 0 possess Axol. I knew Axol was gonna die at the end, and I knew he would be missed for a bunch of videos, unfortunately, I was right, and Melony AND Meggy had most of the focus from the next few episodes onwards. "Melony trains to become more powerful" "Meggy and Melony study to go to college" "Megy and Melony go to college" "Melony gets detention and finds a guy who is like Axol" I don't care at this point, the Box Guy in the college episode is absolutely summoning 0, Melony will have her redemption arc and destroy 0 for good, and later they expaaaaaaaaaaaaand the arc as a post arc where she familiarizes more with the college guy to the point of having a relationship BUUUUT stuff happens that leads to Melony and the guy having it's own spin-off show, Melony is out for a few episodes and comes back to get the spotlight again, and the guy she met steals the role of someone that was already important, most likely Luigi Everything is so fucking predictable that it hurts. I didn't cared at all about Axol's death. It felt so soulless and made for money that just... Didn't hit my spot. Nor did Desti, nor did Greg, and nor will once SMG4 is in bankrupt. There was a theory that SMG4 was going to have a reboot at the end of genesis arc, and start again with his own characters, I was worried about that but in the back of my heart I kind of wished it was the case. So far, I'm only looking forward to Meta Runner Season 3, and when it's done, whether it ends on a cliffhanger or not, I will lose contact with SMG4 and Glitch Productions, and only watch the "Mario reacts to memes" videos. I miss Bowser, Peach and Toad as the main characters, they are way superior than Tari, Meggy, Bob, Boopkins Axol and everybody. I just hope that the comment Tari said when seeing Belle for the first time is leagued to Meta Runner's Universe being destroyed and reset by 0 as a prequel of SMG4, with only Tari and Belle being the only survivors or smth idk
Smg4 Im Biggering Smg4 Starts so many shows and adding so many non fitting characters to the cast Smg4 turns his main video into a dramatic shit The old fans are denying The customers are paying for merch Who cares if old fans are leaving!!!!!!! Man Onceler kina reminds me of the new modern Smg4 staffs
*SMG4 Biggering Trilogy:* *How Bad Can SMG4* - SMG4 completely oblivious and unknowingly destroying the channel by adding more and more things. *SMG4 Biggering* - SMG4 completely aware that he is destroying the channel, but does not care, and wants to keep expanding his career. *Meggy Spletzer: Rise To Power* - Meggy slowly developing the channel, her storylines and fandom, influencing SMG4 to make new changes, therefore destroying the channel.
Smg4 aint hurting anyone. he's one of very few animation channels on youtube that's able to succeed nowadays, and the facts that you "old fans" are angry that he's making money from this is truly disgusting.
i started watching smg4 in 2016, i was actually liking his content, then wasnt online that much a while after that, then in 2021 i rediscovered his channel, watched some videos, somehow liked it, watched more, then watched some of his older videos, enjoyed them way more, went back to the new videos, cringed, realized his entire channel was cringe, stopped enjoying it, aaaaaaaaand i also learned while watching his newer videos that in 2021 he decided to kill the original cast. no, there's an episode where they go to the dark web or something, and theres just a huge pile of dead marios that were from the original videos. smg4 has no plans of returning. biggering is the right way to describe this. and i think the introduction of kevin really changed things, i'm fine with kevin its just that he never watched the older smg4, and tried to inject lore into memes which is like mixing milk and lemonade together.
Luke Luke isn't being Luke isn't being bad, He just wants to please his fans and He just wants to please his fans and do what he loves. Well better to most, plus he is just fulfilling his dreams.
@@kyleb7974 I know, the problem is that I found people saying that Luke only cares about money, which makes me quite angry, as they judge without even knowing anything about Luke's life.
Smg4 is begining to effect and infect about the internet. And he does not care what we say. Just keeps implanting these dead meme parasites. Like disney.
@@thebigblackshotgun9038 No, that's not the case at all. I even watch his ancient videos. Hell, "switcheroooveralls"(2011) is my favorite SMG4 episode!
@@hisimperialbasedness That may be true but it was better to be there to experience it when it came out hence him literally being in his Golden Age, becuase thats what we refer to it now compared to his new content.
I stopped shortly SMG4 shortly after he started introducing a new character every few videos and more opand more of his old cast began to disappear Honestly I think the anime arc is the worst. If he wanted to do something serious. He should have made something separate and promote it. The Metarunner series is actually ok. But it was a very strange decision to give meggy her own series. SMG4 being serious as I’m the anime arc was when his writing becomes the worst. I still miss the old SMG4 prior to.. i believe 2017 when he really started adding new character stuff
GLITCH:Surely all the fans have retu- 😳 Last fan of GLITCH: *Watches New Video* Nah this sucks *leaves* GLITCH:By god that was the last SMG4 Fan! SMG4:There’s nothing left to exploit
True,4 used to be a happy/social guy that cares about his friends,and now he only cares about views,popularity, getting a lot of subscribers,he puts his friends in danger/hurts them for views,he has an obsession with perfection and wants things to be perfect,even though 4 was never a perfect character, and noone on earth is perfect either,4 feels overshadowed by 3,mario,meggy and the others now,cuz people like and care about them more than 4 now?
I used to watch his mario bloopers. But this guy overuses memes, there's a squid girl and blue girl. Not sure if too old, but I dont his stuff funny anymore.
I will now tell you MY story about how I almost became big, but ended up dying out. I started posting a specific tyoe of video called NGG, which ended up becoming quite a success, it would show by the end of the first year, over 4000 subscribers, 1 million and more views atleast and still going strong, however, it began to die a few months before The channel reached peak growth somewhere in December 2021, but by then, I had started suffering from burnout, otherwise known as losing the ability to post frequently. I was posting my videos less often, in which because of the algorithm, less people were seeing them. In February 2022, things started to heat up. One of my accounts was raided due to the type of content I was making, which many said was supporting child abuse, I was left unable to control it and 4 months later, I decided to never post NGG ever again. Now, my channel is completely dead, subscriber count is still growing, but at a very slow pace. I omly post around every 2 months, and when I do post stuff its usually because of a surge of will and energy. Now, what if the situation was swapped between me and SMG4? I would most likely surge in popularity and could of got 1 million subs by now, but, eventually, expanding and completely reinventing myself in order to still be able to post often. But SMG4's channel would be dead in the water, never haining more than 3-4 million subs, and struggling to get just a few 10s of thousands of views, however, it would be likely he would be canceled or terminated from youtube due to the stuff he posted never changing
Honestly I don't think that SMG4 is really that bad Say what you will about some of the decisions he made but I do believe that he still has a sense passion and care both in his content and when he appeares on screen, as he always seams happy and excited to be working on what he is, as well as having boundless (if a little misguided sometimes) ambition for where to take his content. Plus at least he hasn't reached the level of a certain other creator who he is frequently compared to and who both stole from his fans and insulted those who got him where he is at one point (COUGH...COUGH...SML...COUGH...COUGH)
@@kyleb7974 thanks and sorry for being a little redundant by making a comment like this on this and the how bad can I be video. I legitimately thought that they were made by different people instead of both being made by you WOOPS
though i might not be a "OG" i do miss smg4 before the redesigns like they are just the story arcs are getting bland and the fact that the jokes are unfunny for me like they don't hit the same laughs as before
for me my dissolution with smg4 has to do alot with maturity like when i was 10-12 that was when i was mainly into smg4 even through the anime arc but when i hit 13 it started to change for me i slowly stopped watching smg4 leaning more into meta runner since as i hit that maturity that was the only part of glitches content that interested me hell i bought a tari plushie which i dont regret as for smg4 the comedy just didnt hit for me anymore and the episodes felt dry but i mean i cant blame luke or kevin for that since i mean making gmod content having to come up with ideas week after week with not many breaks probably takes a toll along with working on other shows the elephant in the room just being youtube i think youtube was the main factor of his "decline" i put that in quotations because honestly he seems to be doing very well right now financially and his views have been consistent but anyway youtube isnt the same as it was if he made the same kind of content he made in 2012-2016 he would be demonetized or banned so you have to adapt in a way so he started making more story focused videos maybe to have something that could carry the show without the swearing and made some new characters and you have to kinda put into perspective that he didnt want to just make sm64 gmod videos all his life he wanted to really take it to animation and well he achieved the dream of making that animation company with glitch putting all this into context id go as far to say that luke and kevin arent greedy in the shows they produce theres a lot of passion put into those shows sunset paradise is debatable and all the shit revolving around meggy is because they know how much cash meggy fans will shill out but with meta runner you can tell that it isnt just a spinless production and they put alot of effort into the show while smg4 has dropped in storytelling qaulity with some shitty episodes here and there or all of them since id chalk up someones enjoyment of the show to be what your ideal comedy is or if you simp for tari or any of the other girls which i did simp for tari back in the day i will own up to that lmao. in the end this is just kinda a little defense of luke and kevin as a whole i wouldnt call them greedy just try to put the factors of youtube changing with its guidelines and luke and kevin having dreams into play and you might form some sort of understanding with their decisions maybe not with the storylines after the waluigi arc like the anime arc was shit but with the changes with smg4s direction and the starting of glitch possibly, as for me im done watching smg4 ive simply grown out of it i dont even laugh very much at the old videos but i do still enjoy meta runner a lot and im looking forward to season 3 this took maybe even a hour to write lol
