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@DudeImFonz
@DudeImFonz 8 месяцев назад
Pretty long video but I go over basically everything I have to say about the matter at some point. Asmongold and BigFryTV both had reasonable takes. If you are feeling really passionate about your skins and feel especially frustrated, I recommend watching the whole thing and if you still feel that way feel free to yell at me in the comments. But if there’s any lesson to take away from this - microtransactions in video games are a money sink. They aren’t an investment. If you don’t like that, stop supporting games with them. Appreciate y’all ❤
@AutoAlligator
@AutoAlligator 8 месяцев назад
Smite was so poorly programmed from the start it is a miracle the team managed to keep it alive for over a decade. Smite 2 will offer less of everything but will look prettier and have scope for development. Very simple.
@mattsmith9027
@mattsmith9027 8 месяцев назад
If content gets thin i would watch more reaction vids like this. Just sayin 😉
@benimble7542
@benimble7542 8 месяцев назад
Yea to be fair it’s scummy as fuck, but it is what it is. The argument of “small” studio etc etc is outdated and not practical. If a small studio, can produce a FREE game like path of exile, that plays like a $200 game and they have zero problem allowing MTX to cross from title to title… it’s a scummy move, but it’s something You have to accept moving forward. It is what it is, I think it reflects poorly on Hi-Rez, but it also is par for the course when looking at how mid-managed HR is. Sorry, but the bar been set, by a smaller company, with a more complex and larger title. 🤷🏻‍♂️. O well, just allow 5 stacks or the game will die.
@TheMirksta
@TheMirksta 8 месяцев назад
@@benimble7542 Pretty sure Poe and Poe 2 are on the exact same propietary engine
@benimble7542
@benimble7542 8 месяцев назад
@@TheMirksta and?
@joacoconut
@joacoconut 8 месяцев назад
honestly i couldnt care less about the skins, i just want smite 2 to be a great game
@codybaseballer11
@codybaseballer11 8 месяцев назад
W take
@AutoAlligator
@AutoAlligator 8 месяцев назад
Who actually cares? Literally no-one...except content creators (all 3 of them) and pro-players...yawn
@browniesbytes305
@browniesbytes305 8 месяцев назад
This is the way
@leglesskoala7963
@leglesskoala7963 8 месяцев назад
?
@ericdunthorne1981
@ericdunthorne1981 8 месяцев назад
​@@AutoAlligator I suspect anyone who has spent a considerable amount of money on skins. I've spent around 3k on gems to buy skins. I definitely care that they won't carry over especially the T5 skins but. I understand why they can't port most skins. Also I feel their solution is fair. Especially since any ported Smite 1 skills will be available to buy with 100% legacy gems. Excluding cross over skins which is understandable as well.
@kemalhudson7040
@kemalhudson7040 8 месяцев назад
There shouldn’t be one at all I feel as though receiving gems back was perfect not understanding that the new engine situation is completely weird to me especially since they are giving compensation for the not transferring over the skins
@teejay1646
@teejay1646 8 месяцев назад
There isn't one. These whales are just whining and trying to blame hi Rez for their poor impulse control They're not going to stop playing and they're for sure not going to stop buying
@thekey1175
@thekey1175 7 месяцев назад
@@teejay1646 MBIC You are the product. YOU are the whale
@clutchingit
@clutchingit 8 месяцев назад
I don't really feel like this should be controversial. If you want an improved game, then a small sacrifice we probably have to make in order for the game itself to be great is to give the team some grace when it comes to skins. They will drop incredible skins and also get the free legacy gems, I personally like how they have handled it and have no problem with them doing this the way they did.
@jamesonedwardsii4943
@jamesonedwardsii4943 8 месяцев назад
They need to refund me the million dollars I put into this game!
@DrKozmoz
@DrKozmoz 8 месяцев назад
I can say that I have spent 2.2k dollars in Smite, and I am not unhappy with the non transferable skins. Ofc people have their rights to feel frustrated/sad about it, but to move forward and accept that HiRez want to renew Smite in the newest engine from Scratch, let them. I am incredibly excited for Smite 2, skins dont matter to me, what matters is a bug free clean smooth feeling game with good graphics. HiRez did the right call imo. If you dont want to play it, no one is forcing you.
@cagethelonewolf
@cagethelonewolf 8 месяцев назад
yeah the only thing you can be mad about is if your god isn't in smite 2 for a whille and if they change their abilites, if scylla isn't a stun throwing big aoe damging teleporting before you even attmept to hit her, with a 1tap killer ult. then i'm not going to be a big fan of smite 2. you also gotta imagine everyone with crazy hours. i bet all those star felxers who wasted months getting a dumb amount of stars to still be shit at the game will be pissed all there stats are reset
@travisschaub6872
@travisschaub6872 8 месяцев назад
Beta simp
@scottishspells939
@scottishspells939 8 месяцев назад
The way I see it I was "losing" those skins anyway. Even if smite had somehow stuck around forever I've been feeling increasingly frustrated with the game (probably many of the issues stemming from the limitations of UE3) and would probably have left in the next year or two anyway. Smite 2 has me actually excited about smite again, and will also pull back some friends who had already left. Also re. the smite subreddit: That sub is the most negative part of the smite community. For years they've been complaining about hirez spending time making skins and not fixing the game, calling for them to stop making skins and rewrite the game from the ground up etc. Now hirez are actually doing that and the sub is all "but muh skins". I appreciate those are probably two distinct groups of people within the subreddit but my point is that there's no world where hirez makes that subreddit happy whilst making realistic business decisions.
@GunShark0
@GunShark0 8 месяцев назад
Exactly this.
@joshramirez2049
@joshramirez2049 8 месяцев назад
That’s pretty much just Reddit in general 😂 mostly just a waste of internet space
@hellodolly7989
@hellodolly7989 8 месяцев назад
exactly
@nrg6245
@nrg6245 8 месяцев назад
Beautiful words
@browniesbytes305
@browniesbytes305 8 месяцев назад
I love smite. I have nearly 8k hours (started in S3) across multiple platforms, spent decent money on gems, i don't care if they port a SINGLE skin over. smites art team has hard carried Hirez's bottom line and they deserve every cent . They are giving everyone 50% of all their gems and if you get the founder pack it is 100% of their gems spent or unspent... …GENEROUS WOULD BE AN UNDERSTATEMENT. Think smite had good skins? smite 2's skins are going to be better and guess what? you can get the same exact gem worth of the newer better skins. Licenses (ya you don't really own anything its not CS2) for video game cosmetics are not an investment, there is no ROI. They are your way of supporting an otherwise entirely free game. All we should want is for smite 2 to is for it to succeed. That's it that's what you should be hoping for...
@kolt9051
@kolt9051 8 месяцев назад
I really love smite for all it's funny, unique, and quirky skins. I cannot wait to see what the art team dreams up for Smite 2
@user-jn7ic7un1e
@user-jn7ic7un1e 8 месяцев назад
Imagine spending those 8k hours learning something useful instead of on this dogshit game
@browniesbytes305
@browniesbytes305 8 месяцев назад
@@user-jn7ic7un1e it’s ok lil bro they’ll make more nieth skins…
@vnikolayev
@vnikolayev 8 месяцев назад
Having T5 skins would be awesome because we spent money on them, also it's kind of "archievement" skins, which would be cheaper to do and awesome to have
@dannnnnnnnnn24
@dannnnnnnnnn24 8 месяцев назад
Buying a skin in a F2P live service game was always like buying a latte or a nice meal to me. I honestly don't understand how people can even be shocked that this day has come. F2P live service game models have been a part of the gaming space for so long at this point, and so many unceremoniously go away all the time. The legacy gems alone are honestly a great offer by HiRez if you love the core gameplay experience of Smite. Buying a skin in a video game isn't like buying a house or something lol
@rantoon
@rantoon 8 месяцев назад
None of my skins transferred to DKO, I'm shook
@BloatedBodo
@BloatedBodo 8 месяцев назад
Based
@AntonioMartinez-zw7bf
@AntonioMartinez-zw7bf 8 месяцев назад
Honestly, with a year on smite. The moment smite two drops skins or no skins I'm swapping. It's basically a whole new game in graphics builds and even some gameplay. It's crazy that people are freaking out like this.
@jesseruark5323
@jesseruark5323 8 месяцев назад
Overall, from the outside looking in, I think between Asmon and the video he's watching there are pretty balanced views. I agree with Asmon a lot here. l've spent probably somewhere around $500 on skins my whole time playing smite. It sucks that the skins don't transfer over but, i'd rather have a better final product (that can have potential for growth) and eradicate some of the BS from smite one. I'd like to see some of the skins I bought access to in smite 2 and we might but I'm not going to lay an egg over it. It wasn't going to last forever anyway.
@nikolasgraham7166
@nikolasgraham7166 8 месяцев назад
I honestly would rather lose my skins to the game finally having to shut down than a glorified graphical update. Not to mentions many people won't be able to play anymore due to older gen consoles or older pc builds. I'm a quite pissed as I have spent nearly $3k in the game, and with the expectation I would get to use them for the entire lifespan of the game. Smite 2 is not really a new game, it's honestly closer to a major update when the core remains exactly the same. Not getting to purchase new skins in their entirety in Smite 2 with legacy gems is also a slap to the face from Hi-Rez. Losing some of my older favorites that I'm almost certain won't get ported over like many of my skins from my favorite god Scylla sucks, especially cause I have the limited Vampiric skin from 2017 which is one of my favorites and probably won't get ported. This update is welcome for sure by many including me, but everything else about it is honestly fucking terrible from Hi-Rez.
@slippery2322
@slippery2322 8 месяцев назад
​@RomDog-2648 me and my gf have spent about 6k over pc and ps4 accounts over 10 years. Ain't no reason to seek help
@nikolasgraham7166
@nikolasgraham7166 8 месяцев назад
@@RomDog-2648 Did you even read my comment? I can accept losing all my shit I've purchased over the years if the game eventually goes down. but let's be real, Smite 2 is a glorified graphical update, not really a new game worth losing all my skins, progress, etc over. I'm happy you are enjoying the game and earned everything over time. You know why you could do that? Because people like me and the guy above spent money on it. Without us you wouldn't have a fucking game. For the record I make plenty, but I'm mostly pissed at the reason for which I have to lose all my shit. Not worth it for me as I also had the expectation that I would get to use my skins I purchased for the remainder of the games lifespan, and as I stated above, Smite 2 is not really a new game honestly.
@picklejuice4638
@picklejuice4638 8 месяцев назад
@@nikolasgraham7166 So in your world what would constitute as a sequel? Or all sequels are the same game for you?
@AndreasScheller-pv1eu
@AndreasScheller-pv1eu 8 месяцев назад
​@@nikolasgraham7166spend as much as you want, and play smite one as long as it is available you can stil do it smite 1 stays online. A ingame purchase is only an Temporary purchase and 10 years is debatable a good time comparing to the lifetime of the majority of games. So play smkte one until it dies nobody will and should stop you.
@farbenpracht
@farbenpracht 8 месяцев назад
I have a good amount over 1000€ in skins on SMITE I don't really care that these skins aren't transferred over.. people that expect that are delusional and probably are sad their 50 bucks of skins are not in the new game.. Every time I spent money on SMITE it was to keep the game going, additional I got a skin I had fun with. Hi-Rez needs money to keep the game going on, or it will die and I can't play the game I love. Before SMITE I played WoW where I had to 1. buy the game and 2. pay 13€ a month JUST to play the game In SMITE I payed like the same amount (roughly 10 € per month for the past 10 years) TO KEEP THE GAME GOING.. what I got for? 10 years of fun!
@ahhhabee
@ahhhabee 8 месяцев назад
as someone super involved at the beginning of overwatch 2, its wild that people are trying to make this into a big thing. 1. large engine changes did NOT occur with overwatch. everything was ported over because it was built off of the existing game. smite 2 is going to be built from ground up, and nothing will be able to be properly "ported" over. 2. smite will still be live. these skins are not "lost". even if it will inevitably go offline, to pretend that the release of smite 2 will cause you to lose cosmetics is ridiculous. 3. it will not be profitable to recreate all of the skins, most of which are not great/worth the investment. im sure there will be some recreation of the best legacy skins, but most of them are not worth it. 4. the biggest thing that people complained about with overwatch 2 was blizzard's SEVERE lack of communication. HiRez has been EXTREMELY clear and upfront about many of the concerns and curiosities that the community had/will have, and the game isn't even in alpha. We have to realize that even if they aren't doing everything to our expectations, the fact that they have so far been super clear about whats going on is admirable in the current games market. this whole deal is ridiculous to me. mild disappointment about skins makes sense, but cmon, be real
@rdrmredrum5376
@rdrmredrum5376 8 месяцев назад
Who remembers ravanna having a scorpion skin from mk 👀
@daigustoemeral3710
@daigustoemeral3710 8 месяцев назад
😢
@aries148
@aries148 8 месяцев назад
Man that skin got taken away from us so fast 😂😂😂
@mrchill530
@mrchill530 8 месяцев назад
I thought the same thought lol
@Imagine_Baggins
@Imagine_Baggins 8 месяцев назад
Not having skins from the first game sucks, but it's understandable why it's not a priority considering how resource-intensive remaking all of those skins would be. What I'm a bit disappointed about personally is the fact that the default models haven't gotten any major changes. Sure, they're higher quality and look nice, but I think a lot of them are just fundamentally dated from a design perspective when you compare them to the more recent god models in Smite. I think a good middle-ground would be to remake some of the more popular Smite1 skins for each god and make them available for either direct purchase or with the new legacy token currency.
@iNandez
@iNandez 8 месяцев назад
If I heard the announcement correctly, they said that the skins they port over are going to be available 100% for Legacy Gems. Don't take my word for it, though. I'm too lazy to go back to the video to check. Me personally I don't care at all about the skins not being ported. I've put over $3k into LoL and barely play it these days. It makes no sense to me for people to complain about something they can't even see if they don't pay their internet bill. Skins are just something extra to tickle my brain.
@Morgan_grail
@Morgan_grail 8 месяцев назад
I don't think the god art is completely final
@datube5913
@datube5913 8 месяцев назад
The skins on Smite 2 are gonna be the shitttt! I’m pumped
@CarolineDrivolt
@CarolineDrivolt 8 месяцев назад
Just a side effect of the sunk cost fallacy tbh. I'm frankly more concerned for the opposite; I'm looking at a potential risk of Smite 2 feeling too basic at launch if not all gods get ported over and they don't have some kind of skin system already in place, which would make existing players decide to stick to smite 1 (for the time being). Hirez needs to do this right, I do think the legacy gems are a step in the right direction, just hoping we'll be able to buy another god pack as well.
@TravlerBlue
@TravlerBlue 8 месяцев назад
I mean, the open beta is going to have about 50 gods and they plan on full release being at 100 gods. I believe they will also have a skin system at the latest in open beta. Hell, they might have a skin system starting in the closed alpha. I think it'll be fine, personally.
@lukebyrne7946
@lukebyrne7946 8 месяцев назад
Yeah this is the bigger concern. 1/3rd of the roster is way scarier than our pretty skins not carrying over.
@StripedSooner
@StripedSooner 8 месяцев назад
From my perspective, I’m a person who just got tired of the game for various reasons a few years ago, and the AMOUNT of skins was an issue for me back then - it’s an entire chore to keep up with what goofy skin belongs to what character in game. A ton of them didn’t even fit the characters, or made them look like an entire other character to begin with. It ended up making the game feel cheap and more like a meme over time, and I know I’m not alone on this because I’ve heard others echo this sentiment. After hearing recently about smite 2, at first I figured that it would just be smite 1.5 as has been the standard in gaming lately. Seeing that they’re actually hitting a reset and legitimately upgrading the game from a fundamental level is what actually intrigues me to pay attention going forward, and likely give it a shot. To me, the reset is a positive, despite the hundreds I spent on skins over the years. I don’t want smite 1.5, I want the sequel if I’m going to give it another go. And, I hope that comes with some actual character reworks in visuals and kits for some underwhelming designs like hades, personally. This is the perfect opportunity to update things like that.
@dioo1745
@dioo1745 8 месяцев назад
Don't apologize for pausing broski, speak your truth my budda
@zoelagoblina3138
@zoelagoblina3138 8 месяцев назад
i own 1600 skins in smite but ill be happy to just play a great smite 2 period. i dont even need skins in a game
@MindlessKing64
@MindlessKing64 8 месяцев назад
Only thing i really care about is the T5's , i can live with losing most of my skins and staring again but those are the ones that matter to me the most. im not demanding or anything like that im just asking. i feel like a lot of the people who only want T5's skins ported are getting lumped in with the ones who want every skin ported which is totally unreasonable btw. Even if hirez was willing to do it after the game fully released i would be more than grateful even if it was only the limited ones or worse case only the skins from the charity events. They could even rerelease the unlimited ones as a way to get people to spend alot of there legacy gems. i think a lot more people wouldnt mind the fact that most the skins dont transfer if they at least got their T5's somewhere down the road even if its a year or two after smite 2 has launched
@Nuttin_Crazy
@Nuttin_Crazy 8 месяцев назад
Im sure down the road once they are 100+ gods and bugs worked out it will be focused on, year or two after release like you said
@MindlessKing64
@MindlessKing64 8 месяцев назад
@@Nuttin_Crazy hopefully but them even just saying that would go a long way with the community
@Nuttin_Crazy
@Nuttin_Crazy 8 месяцев назад
@@MindlessKing64 I cant imagine archon thanatos not being in the game at some point
@gehrman7708
@gehrman7708 8 месяцев назад
Smite 2 used to be a meme and now it is real, yeah we wont have our 1600 skins but i only really liked about 30 of them anyways.
@lilkurva180
@lilkurva180 8 месяцев назад
Personally I only care about crossovers. And idk why they recently introduced more vtuber crossover stuff if its not transferring. Thats my only complaint.
@daggbruh
@daggbruh 8 месяцев назад
haven't finished the video yet, but i love smite so much that i want to support them by spending money. When i buy stuff not only do i get the skin, i also am supporting a game i put a lot of time into.
@famousmortimer7933
@famousmortimer7933 8 месяцев назад
Cool story bro. I did more than support them…I put their kids through college, and I’m not doing all over again. Dead game just got that death knell.
@daggbruh
@daggbruh 8 месяцев назад
@famousmortimer7933 i understand being upset. But you made the choice to spend money, not Hi-Rez.
@TRIBULXTIONS
@TRIBULXTIONS 8 месяцев назад
​@famousmortimer7933 Take accountability for your actions. Maybe now you understand the importance of money and what if.
@bogidar92
@bogidar92 8 месяцев назад
Things I don't believe Hi-Rez will fix with Smite 2, but REALLY HOPE are addressed: 1. Bugs - I don't wanna deep dive into this topic since I work in software development as well but I believe the game will be absolutely buggy. This is cause I don't think Hi-Rez have a dedicated QA Engineering team. Only alpha and beta users being responsible for the quality of a product is usually a joke. 2. Hackers and cheaters - Hi-Rez has never addressed that issue in the past and it won't be addressed now. Hackers will once again flourish with the excuse it's lag or server issues, etc. 3. Server issues - I don't know why but it's like Hi-Rez are straight up honest about not wanting to invest anything... So, the servers will still be absolutely terrible. 4. I don't think matchmaking will ever be fixed. I know more players need to be attracted to improve, but with Smite's matchmaking it has never been the case about improving but JUST BAD DECISIONS 5. I am quite certain that Hi-Rez won't listen to the community and will make the same mistakes with Smite 1 in a lot of aspects. 6. Balancing of the game will remain poor just as in Smite 1 due to whatever reasons. 6.1. Gods will be losing their identities when certain METAS occur and basically won't be relevant for years, overpowered God releases that will destroy gaming experience, etc. Same things as in Smite 1. 7. Bonus unfun things: new cool features will be left unfinished or forgotten basically, unclear idea of what Smite 2 is, splitting the player base,
@tehfrog.
@tehfrog. 8 месяцев назад
Only thing i wanna see in smite 2 is the tier 5 skins they would give you the OG status and would show new players how cool smite skins can be
@jamesaston6215
@jamesaston6215 8 месяцев назад
Im glad they’re keeping smite 1 up because i play on a last gen console so wont be able to play smite 2
@ArilliusDM
@ArilliusDM 8 месяцев назад
At first, I was honestly pissed that skins weren't transferring. After hearing why, however, and their decision to give us gems for the new game, I think that's a very good ground they didn't need to do. The fact that we can spend these gems for only half the skin cost was iffy, but it also makes sense. They need the money, simply put. That said, I am still a little wary. Smite has been increasing costs slowly but steadily for a while now and the fact is that it's just not great. They have the best lootbox system that can exist, in that there's only a little bit of random trash in each chest, but if they monumentally increase the cost of skins in smite 2 like LoL has then I'm not certain I'll be as down for it. That's more 'me worried about a company trying to make too much off their fanbase' though, and that's something I always worry about with games. My actual big concern was whether we can get a smite gods thing that lets us buy once for all current and future gods, like smite 1, instead of a sub service or needing to buy each one individually. I specifically don't play other mobas because unlocking gods in smite was so simple, clean and customer friendly that I just wanted to keep trying it. So learning there is an option like that makes me very happy.
@AndrewH1994
@AndrewH1994 8 месяцев назад
I'm frustrated by it, but i'm really only frustrated from the recent crossover events, and the most recent Odyssey event. They knew these skins wouldn't transfer into Smite 2, but they sold them anyways. I'll still play Smite 2, and I'm looking forward to it. I'm still frustrated by the most recent marketing for few skins.
@johncook983
@johncook983 8 месяцев назад
I dont understand why their keeping smite 1 still running when smite 2 comes out, if their gonna play cards then just wing it. If it fails then smite will be known as a failure and plummet
@BombShot
@BombShot 8 месяцев назад
Educated guess, It gives them time to improve and perfect smite 2 without removing content from the game. This way they can focus on the slow god roll-out, balance changes, and other important things that will have to be done w/ Smite 2 and the player base won't cry about missing gods, modes, ect. Do I think it's the best decision? No... but if it's that bad I have faith they'll adress it.
@Vaedrath
@Vaedrath 8 месяцев назад
what i think they will do is keep smite around until all the gods are ported over and then it shuts down
@ArilliusDM
@ArilliusDM 8 месяцев назад
Smite 1 still makes them some money, which they will need to grow smite 2.
@picklejuice4638
@picklejuice4638 8 месяцев назад
Not everyone will be able to run smite 2 on their potato pcs or ps4's, it will buy them time to get a new computer while still being able to enjoy smite 1
@teejay1646
@teejay1646 8 месяцев назад
Literally just gonna kill both games they don't have the playerbase for this shit
@powerrangers9288
@powerrangers9288 8 месяцев назад
I'm currently at 1236 skins on my account and would have ~1600 if I bought all the mastery skins. I've spent a little over $200 on the game for ~75% of the content but I could care less about them transferring over. I already got my $200 worth just in the gameplay. I'm just hyped for Smite 2 and there are so many options for getting free gems. I'll just place in some amateur smite 2 tournaments to build back my collection.
@justenobermoeller3420
@justenobermoeller3420 8 месяцев назад
To me here's the best way to explain or a good comparison to the whole Smite 2 situation. Imagine you have a car, it has nice heated seats that are comfortable and great for when it's cold. But the engine is a junker and put puts and could break down at any time. You trade it (for free btw) for a brand new car that has no engine problems and could run well for years, but oh no it doesn't have the heated seats the junker had. Is that really you losing something, is that really a downgrade? Because if you really care and enjoy Smite then the running engine is more important than the heated seats.
@Nuttin_Crazy
@Nuttin_Crazy 8 месяцев назад
That example isnt quite right since heated seats actually change the experience. It would more be like, you got an expensive gold wrap and wheels on a 2006 toyota corolla, and they are moving to a 2023 corolla and giving a 50% discount on wraps based on how much you spent on your 2006 wrap.
@hbeezy1952
@hbeezy1952 8 месяцев назад
Yes I’m pissed skins won’t transfer over but I actually understand.
@Special3gg
@Special3gg 8 месяцев назад
Better Game > Skins 👏👏🗿
@fusioncaliburthelast2261
@fusioncaliburthelast2261 8 месяцев назад
hard agree brother
@will5874
@will5874 8 месяцев назад
W take, @fineokay. As someone who’s spent a few hundred over the years on Smite for battle passes and various skins, I always saw it as supporting a game I love to play with my friends. I look forward to your Smite 2 content!
@bewwie9067
@bewwie9067 8 месяцев назад
Honestly, thanks for speaking out with a level headed take, the voices of pros and content creators hold weight and this community is so full of irrational negativity, I couldn't care less about skins, I want Smite to succeed.
@IntellectinShort_
@IntellectinShort_ 8 месяцев назад
This is the first time I’ve commented on one of your vids. I’ve been watching for a long time. You sir have a good take and I wish I could double like this vid. People need to understand that things end, and that all the money they spent isn’t disappearing, it’s getting added back into the game. Smite 2 is entirely necessary, keep it up @fineokay!
@farbenpracht
@farbenpracht 8 месяцев назад
People complaining are like little kids with 1600 toys and mum give them away to make room for new stuff.. Even if these kids don't play with the old toys, the old toys are now dead serious important! Grow up little boys!
@TheSket
@TheSket 8 месяцев назад
I seriously don’t get it at all. I honestly don’t believe that their is any grounds to be upset by this at all. They are giving you the EQUIVALENT VALUE of all the GEMS YOU SPENT IN SMITE. In Smite 2. THIS ISNT JUST YOUR SKINS. This is any voice packs, emotes, ward skins, pre game pedestals, music packs, etc INCLUDING ANY FREE GEMS YOUVE OBTAINED. I don’t think people realize that if you log in every day after about a week you get like 30-40 gems every other day or so. Over a year or 10 this adds up. Between daily login stuff and random events and challenges you probably have thousands of free gems just given to you. THAT YOU ARE GETTING BACK IN SMITE 2. Yes you can’t buy things outright with them but hi rez needs to make money to survive. Genuinely if you see this comment and are outraged by what hi rez is doing, you need a damn reality check because you aren’t owed shit to begin with but they are giving you what amounts to all of the money you ever spent in smite 1 and more. Grow tf up.
@egothekid4542
@egothekid4542 8 месяцев назад
It's so frustrating watching people outside the community make assumptions about us. It feels like were all siblings and hirez are our parents and all these folks outside the family are judging our family drama, YOU DON"T TALK ABOUT MY MOM LIKE THAT
@Elzzaw
@Elzzaw 8 месяцев назад
People seem to forget that all the skins in Smite are a culmination of 10 years of work. Think of how much work went into every skin, how many hours people put into their jobs to code, animate, voice and rig every single skin in the game.
@AtomicSlugg
@AtomicSlugg 8 месяцев назад
"There's no denying the skins are fascinating. They're the most fascinating part of the animal. The skin of any animal is the most fascinating part." - Dennis Reynolds
@stevsux4442
@stevsux4442 8 месяцев назад
I maintain the biggest problem with smite 2 is that it's smite 2. If they want to make a new moba on a new engine they should make a new game. With smite 2 they're not just competing with themselves, they're competing with their only successful property in a way that if smite 2 fails there's no going back to smite 1. They're trying to capture a new audience in an industry where developers say it's nearly impossible to grasp new players long term and I really don't think it will work out because new players will still be warded off by the complicated god and build system and old players will be warded off because the game won't have the same amount of characters, modes or skins. Even if Hirez sticks to their one old god brought over every 2 weeks that's still a long time and since smite 1 will still be up a lot of players will just gravitate back to that but since it won't get updates they wont be spending any money so how does Hirez plan to put out enough content to get old and new players to stick when neither group has a reason to stay before they've sunk all of their money into trying? My biggest frustration is not that they're taking away my skins, whatever I enjoyed smite 1 for thousands of hours and don't really play anymore or buy new ones. It's that they're trying to make what's supposed to be a new game that's going to be as far as the characters I'm playing almost exactly the same as the old game, but now I have to rebuy those characters and buy new skins for those characters with the caveat that I get a 50% off coupon to buy skins I already had one I was happy with for a god I already enjoyed and spent my time on And you bet your sweet bippy if they try to have events that remake old popular and t5 skins so they can resell them to you I'm dropping the hell out of smite 2 and hope the company rots
@bof0079
@bof0079 8 месяцев назад
This is too funny… I have over 1700 skins, been playing since s1…and frankly it hurts to “lose” all the skins, but I don’t see them as items I own… I see it as I’ve been paying to support hirez. So they can continue to fund their game that I liked playing. It would be nice to have a marketplace for skins like csgo/cs2/pubg … but I’m fine with it, I kinda wish the skins were more reasonably priced so more people could justify (internally)purchasing them… more money for hirez means more support for a game we *hopefully* love… and we’ve been saying it from the beginning “fix your game low-rez” … they finally are!
@NicholasDarling
@NicholasDarling 8 месяцев назад
Personally i don't play much because the playerbase has drastically gotten worst over the years, pretty hard to find a match with 10 people trying to work together let alone understanding moba aspects of the game. They just run it down and try to get kills >.>
@adamneuert9278
@adamneuert9278 8 месяцев назад
As a Beta player who dropped off a few years ago (just slowed down playing games in general) I am very much excited for Smite 2 and will definitely be coming back to play! The announcement was fantastic IMO, the value for anything we have already spent is insane.
@garminxbox6185
@garminxbox6185 8 месяцев назад
Watched the entire video and it helped open my eyes a bit more. Though I was initially disappointed about skins, I think they are doing a great job to try to compensate and please their loyal fanbase. I want Smite 2 to be a very successful game and hope to see it grow tremendously. With that said, I do think I will take more consideration into any micro transactions I make on any game or any platform going forward. You don’t own the pixels, it’s simply for your pleasure and you yourself have to weigh if the money is with it to you. Very helpful and enjoyable video Alec.
@nickbandman3207
@nickbandman3207 8 месяцев назад
Loved this type of content. Anything long form where I get more fineo is great ❤
@kylehammack2025
@kylehammack2025 8 месяцев назад
Only the plebs that play casually, once a week, are mad about their precious skins. Those ppl can keep playing smite 1 and have fun feeding with their skins.
@Gravityllama422
@Gravityllama422 8 месяцев назад
The point about Web3 and “owning” your skins reminds me of how I knew Roblox was gonna be a hit way back in 2008. Looking at Fortnite following their footsteps w their creator mode and s&box makes it clear to me that players want the “platform” style gaming center which gives tons of agency but don’t like the idea of a monopoly developer.
@AliBunn
@AliBunn 6 месяцев назад
I dont know how to feel about this update....for the longest of time I stopped playing the game because I wanted to swap from console to pc, only to find out cross progression from console to pc is impossible....just got back to playing smite on PC and was interested to find they release a lot of past event skins to direct purchase only to find out anyone with a new account is screwed....and or who doesn't play on their original console....kinda disheartening to hear about this update but hopefully the game is will be great!
@the_dread_wolf1936
@the_dread_wolf1936 8 месяцев назад
I've no problem with them not porting the skins. But the fact that they've known for a year and kept releasing skins that that wont carry over anyaway irks me a little. Also as good as the 50% discount is cool, it forces people to spend money anyway. And that feels the worst about all of this. "Here's 50%, but pay anyway." I'd rather they didn't do legacy gems and just gave favor.
@the_dread_wolf1936
@the_dread_wolf1936 8 месяцев назад
I also can't belive they're doing Smite 2 and Loki is still an assassin and not a mage.... Like what?
@RollWithCarlos
@RollWithCarlos 8 месяцев назад
@@the_dread_wolf1936 Loki mage? wtf?!🤣🤣🤣🤣
@the_dread_wolf1936
@the_dread_wolf1936 8 месяцев назад
@@RollWithCarlos Are you not aware of how he was described in the myths? Trickster/Fire god, didn't carry weapons, wore clothing and not armour, had fiery red hair and green eyes. Shapeshifter and manipulater. And here I thought people learn about the gods in the game. Guess not.
@alexjett6638
@alexjett6638 8 месяцев назад
You get 100% off using legacy gems when old skins are being purchased and 50% off when new skins are being purchased
@jdawg4510
@jdawg4510 8 месяцев назад
Take total money invested divide by hours played, this is your cost per hour of entertainment. Compare that to a movie ticket. Most games are massive value compared to other hobbies.
@Sidorio
@Sidorio 8 месяцев назад
All of my concerns about Smite 2's business models were dispelled as soon as Hi-Rez confirmed that you could repurchase Smite 1 remastered skins with 100% of Legacy Gems. That plus the 50% discount on new content is plenty for me to want to support Smite 2.
@DanielGonzalez-wo1ce
@DanielGonzalez-wo1ce 8 месяцев назад
At this point idc about my skins, if Hirez wants to port some skins cool, if they dont cool too i just want to continue playing the game that i ve been playing since i was 13
@crazygiant797
@crazygiant797 8 месяцев назад
Ive spent a lot of money over the 10 years ive played and honestly i dont really care about skins, i just buy them to support smite and to make me look cool. Im just excited to be able to play smite 2!
@Praction3r
@Praction3r 8 месяцев назад
Love this. Thanks for the alternative content.
@l_obsessed_l5640
@l_obsessed_l5640 8 месяцев назад
I do like legacy system but having to buy every skin in the game to only go away is frustrating. Maybe not so much for RU-vidrs/streamers who just get given skins by smite
@Frenchfry_McFlurry
@Frenchfry_McFlurry 8 месяцев назад
Watching the same clips over and over made me more and more upset that kuku didnt get a quadra with his ult
@mrchill530
@mrchill530 8 месяцев назад
I feel like everyone complaining wasn't there for the abrupt shut down of paragon after promising and reiterating of the big things coming in the same season they shut down servers
@DangDale
@DangDale 8 месяцев назад
Been playing Smite for around 8 years and I always leaving in a year or two anyway. Just due to the frustrations of Smite in general and the gameplay being (at least for me) repetitive. Now I'm so excited for Smite 2. I've spent around 500 dollars in gems in Smite. I always knew that money was GONE and never coming back to me in anyway. So the Gem deal in Smite 2 seems like a generous gift for loyal fans.
@thecrimsonkaizer4362
@thecrimsonkaizer4362 8 месяцев назад
Legitimately I don't care about the skins. Been a player for a long time, dumped thousands of hours and hundreds of pounds on skins etc. As soon as I heard about smite 2, the first thing I thought was "sick! I can't wait to play smite in a really smooth fluid engine". The idea of skin porting never crossed my mind.
@cagethelonewolf
@cagethelonewolf 8 месяцев назад
them giving us EVERY single gem we have ever spent is the best way to make this work, we don't feel cheated, it's a shame we will lose so many crossover skins and so many iconic skins. but it isn't a deal breaker my issue is that they said they plan to shake up the game, gods getting new abiltes and all that. it won't be the smite i've played 885 hours of, if i was still in my gaming prime this would be upseting as all my insight and knowagle would be tossed out the window. i hated it when zeus changed i hated it when skadi ult got changed. now every god is in hirezs crosshair. edit i hate that its even called smite 2, as if smite 1 will still be supported, it's like csgo 2 it's csgo with a fresh coat of paint why couldn't we just say hey we overhalled csgo if we arent being given a option of what game we choose to play to further add they know they are doing smite 2 and have been for a whille yet still sell new skins in smite 1 why a gem cell? were getting fucked axed. they gave us a free t5 skin only to say hey these skins are gone btws tldr, it's gonna be annoying having to wait for the gods you play to come out in smite 2, and you also now have to pray their kit isn't chnaged from what you loved. smite 1 will have your fav gods whille smite 2 will just be a new game for everyone. we lose our stats our progress and anything else. smite adding runescape skins that you can grind for and unlock capes for only for it to only last a few months. i just dont like the fact they knew smite 2 was coming and they kept jiggling new skins in front of us
@atljessie
@atljessie 8 месяцев назад
Most of my Tier 5 skins I basically only use in MOTD/Assault/Arena because I don’t even play the gods that much (currently at 1216 skins) could honestly care less. And then giving us Legacy Gems is a STEAL for us.
@youtubeenthussiast328
@youtubeenthussiast328 8 месяцев назад
The only thing I'm irritated about is that this is rip for the current game won't be any more updates or minimal for at least a year.
@magdowskii
@magdowskii 7 месяцев назад
I wish the old skins could be ported over but I appreciate that they're giving us gems for them and a discount, that's more than many other companies have done. The skins in smite 2 will be a lot better anyway. Hopefully they can figure out something for the tier 5s tho. Im more concerned about splitting manpower and the playerbase between 1 and 2. People are just super entitled and think they deserve everything without actually thinking about things from other perspectives.
@Kshixey
@Kshixey 8 месяцев назад
I've put a bit of money into skins over the years and sure Id love to have some of my faves be ported over but I am happy with the legacy gems they are giving us to make up for it. I just want Smite 2 to be a success. I have loved smite for a very long time and I am looking forward to the new skins they put out for it. and no I'm not rich, not at all lol. I look at microtransactions like going out for take out... although with skins I get to enjoy them for much longer. but I feel your money for both is just gone and there is no refunds. You still have plenty of time to get enjoyment/moneys worth out of those skins.
@ymir4552
@ymir4552 8 месяцев назад
I am happy that Smite is being remade in a better UE, the animations look cleaner, and the graphics also look way better. It kind of annoys me that we won't have our skins, but at least we will get compensation for our loss, in which I hope is a fair trade of 1:1 meaning that our legacy gems would be worth as the new currency or even better than the new currency. I do hope we get our packs such as the one for the future gods transfered, if not at least a cheaper pack would work.
@cream-gravy
@cream-gravy 8 месяцев назад
36:20 The problem that people aren’t addressing is that I don’t even know if I want every GOD to transfer over from 1 to 2, let alone every skin. Some gods are fundamentally flawed, and definitely either need a rework or a complete overhaul. And I imagine that, as they are completely overhauled in 2, some of them are going to have complete visual reworks, making some smite 1 skins entirely obsolete.
@Hexadecimal_QueenofChaos
@Hexadecimal_QueenofChaos 8 месяцев назад
If they delete Nox in Smite 2 I will love the game lol
@lethallegend9883
@lethallegend9883 8 месяцев назад
I haven’t watched this video to completion but this is my view and as a off and on player. I haven’t been around the smite community for very long, I started playing around the time Chernobog got released and I’ve spent a little over $100 on smite for skins. The only thing I’ve bought was the izanami tier 5 bundle because I enjoyed the character. It sucks that I lose out a bit but I think it would be neat if they slowly cranked out the tier 5 skins in waves. It shouldn’t be the first priority but I think it would be neat if they did. Granted I don’t know what skins Hi-res is transferring so I guess we’ll just have to wait and see. Regardless, I have friends that are gonna want to play smite 2. Edit: good video overall
@ScroteeMac
@ScroteeMac 8 месяцев назад
If smite 1 stays online I don't really have a problem. What I do have a problem with is how about when you give a battle pass to players for free when it's nearly finished, refund the 800 gems to the people that bought the battle pass. Why aren't more people complaining about that it's crazy to me
@Roadkill7007
@Roadkill7007 8 месяцев назад
Yeah I understand the legacy gems. And I’m highly appreciative for them for doing at least that. Im waiting for them to release the game and I’ll continue to play smite 2 and spending my money on it. Like they said spending money on games is a money pit overall so I know what I’m getting into it.
@LostCoin1
@LostCoin1 8 месяцев назад
I dont even use a lot of season 2 skins because depending on which one it'll look like a polygonal mess to be honest. The jump will be massive and it'd look bad to port them honestly. They had a time, it's passed.
@kolt9051
@kolt9051 8 месяцев назад
I find solar sentinel Ra hilarious, if they do port it over, they better not change it! 😂
@yoMXTT
@yoMXTT 8 месяцев назад
The only thing that is scummy is the 50% thing. Let us use our legacy gems to buy the battlepass and SOME skins fully. The 50% thing will make me not purchase any gems, just earn them passively like Smite 1 does if you can.
@s11ramosn
@s11ramosn 8 месяцев назад
First, I want to start by saying I am a very casual player and so are my friends. I probably get a game in on Friday and maybe Saturday. I fell off because I've just been busy with work. I am very excited that they are redoing the game completely and so are my friends. I think it's a great thing to update it so new people can play. Some of my friends can't get into it because of how old it looks. I didn't think the Skins thing was such a big problem but then again I am just a casual player
@krispyclown9777
@krispyclown9777 8 месяцев назад
As someone who played smite since the start I would like the skins to transfer, and I think they could do it. But I could see why they wouldn’t from a cost perspective. I personally probably won’t play smite 2 because I’m not really interested in smite anymore.
@devan90912
@devan90912 8 месяцев назад
I feel the majority of pc smite players would rather see the game updated on a new engine to potentially accelerate the growth of the game than have the skins ported from Smite 1
@KommonCents_
@KommonCents_ 8 месяцев назад
I have 1740 skins and IDGAF about them not going to Smite 2. It's absolutely necessary to move to UE5. Don't be poor, I guess?
@lQueuel
@lQueuel 8 месяцев назад
I'm excited for Smite 2 because of how much potential there is to try new things with abilities, items, or other mechanics on a new engine. They've already stated how they can quickly code and test something in the game just to try it out. There's so much that they can do with that. I've bought a lot of skins over the years, and I don't really mind they aren't coming over to Smite 2. I like Smite, and I wanted to support the company that makes it so I bought the skins I liked to do that. The only skins I wish they would 100% port over are the T5s just because they cost the most for people and mosy of them mean a lot to the community. Perhaps that is something they can revist over the years. Imagine the hype if they re-released a S1 T5 skin and gave it for free as a bonus for their dedicated long-time players that already owned the skin in S1. I can see them announcing something like that at Worlds.
@cameronstrouth7614
@cameronstrouth7614 8 месяцев назад
People who expected skins to be free in Smite 2 should be required to take an IQ test before voting
@nickdelk5268
@nickdelk5268 8 месяцев назад
The fact that hi-rez is giving us gems for Smite is insane in itself. Most companies would not do that. lol
@HW-ow9zp
@HW-ow9zp 7 месяцев назад
How did it obviously not take 246 man hour work years to make the skins so far, and they will already have them designed, and now it will take an astronomical amount of time? I don't care that much about the skins but it's obviously a bummer to lose money. The whole dialogue of it just seems really out of line
@tylerprime6741
@tylerprime6741 8 месяцев назад
When it was first announced I was definitely kinda frustrated that skins weren't transferring over. After the initial feelings faded though I was able to more calmly assess smite 2. I've been saying they should rebuild the game from the ground up for years and if I gotta lose some pixels for that to happen then sure that's fine. I do think something to maybe be frustrated about would be skins and monetization from the end of year 10. People just buying like the new vshojo skins or whatever other collabs or events going on in like December just to turn around and have all of those not be in smite 2. I understand why but at the same time I can understand the people buying those things feeling a little more cheated. I'm all for smite 2, losing my skins while unfortunate is at least leading to (hopefully) a significant improvement in the game through smite 2. Really as long as my God masteries are carried over (which I believe they have said is happening) I'm happy.
@samanthaanderson1213
@samanthaanderson1213 8 месяцев назад
As someone who has bought many Smite skins (over 600), i am actually so excited for the legacy gems so I can get shiny new skins in a much more beautiful and fleshed out Smite 🥰
@LiamHearthBrookVO
@LiamHearthBrookVO 8 месяцев назад
What I take from this, is don't purchase skins. Smite needs the money? 5 years is how long I've played. Dropping about $2k in 2023 because I could finally afford the specific skins I wanted. 50% is too low for legacy gems. They don't have to give anything, and I get that, but at least ask the community what They think is fair. Let's barter. If they want to show a faith in the old community who has been loyal, and have supported the company, the community should get something of a say. I completely see purchasing a skin as supporting the game and devs, absolutely, but when I buy a skin, in ANY game, because I have invested time in that game, I consider it a loyalty to consumer prioritizing to maintain faith in company. When I purchase art, a picture, I hang it on the wall and get to keep it. Skins/microtransactions with games such as smite, should be the same. Personal opinion. I understand it's a risk business wise to update the engine and why they need too. I do. But $ for $, 50%? Is no different then ordering a large combo and getting a medium fry with a single instead of a double cheeseburger. I use food because according to opinions, microtransactions are a waste of money and temporary, I get that. But if that's the case, do you go back to the counter to get your large meal that you ordered or do you settle? I am frustrated, but I DO understand Why the business needs to make this move. But settling for 50%? Is just not a "deal". It's a complement to the artists designs behind the skins for people to be upset over losing their skins. We can't expect the skins in SMITE2, -fineokay( sorry, had too haha) but if the old player base is to continue to Purchase i.e. support the company, it NEEDS to be more than 50%. 50 is settling for half a tank of gas, when you purchased a full tank. I plan to remain supporting! I'm simply voicing the facts from a consumer, and a fan of what the game has brought to the industries standpoint.
@TheOneWhoFoundNemo
@TheOneWhoFoundNemo 8 месяцев назад
That skin to piece of candy comparison is exactly how I feel as well.
@tylerturner1028
@tylerturner1028 8 месяцев назад
First thing me and my buddy who play said when we heard the news was “damn can’t wait to see how much money we spent on gems gonna be comedy” lmao honestly couldn’t care less about the skins I spent a fuck ton of money and I got the use out of them. Can’t wait for smite 2!
@LiteGreenish
@LiteGreenish 8 месяцев назад
The only thing that really feels bad is that you basically have to put the amount of money you spent on Smite 1 into Smite 2 to make use of your legacy gems. Since you can only pay for half of something with legacy gems
@CaIIMeVon
@CaIIMeVon 8 месяцев назад
So in theory you only have to put in half
@fusioncaliburthelast2261
@fusioncaliburthelast2261 8 месяцев назад
you don't have to pay anything like, u never had to pay for those skins ever, microtransactions are not an investment
@picklejuice4638
@picklejuice4638 8 месяцев назад
That's just entitlement and you're lucky to even get that. They have to completely recreate all those 10 years of skins on a new engine and also give them for free?
@MrAIexey
@MrAIexey 8 месяцев назад
I am actually happy for smite 2, I spent about 1.5k $, I stopped playing 3.5 years ago. Whenever I tried to come back, the game would crash with unreal engine error and after couple of crashes I just uninstall. I bought new pc recently and tried smite again, but the crashes killed any desire to play it. Also audio bugs were annoying af.
@ZeroiusProduction
@ZeroiusProduction 8 месяцев назад
Personally, i'm half annoyed and half like "well, okay then" annoyed as in, i won't be able to use my skins, but, then again, i've played the game since beta and onward, i've had plenty of use of my +400-500 skins over the course of the years, i wouldn't mind like, if the game closed for Smite 2, i've had my fun with most skins, it is what it is, i'm just a bit annoyed that the legacy skins ain't more then just 50% and u can't stack em to make it a 100% (so free) but still thankful enough that hi rez actually gives us gems for whatever amount of gems we've bought over the years.
@jvint33
@jvint33 8 месяцев назад
I'm looking forward to the new engine, but I'm not so sure how I feel about the new models. Maybe since I've been playing Smite for so long, the newer models just look wrong to my old man brain.
@donaldrogers2265
@donaldrogers2265 8 месяцев назад
I just hope we don't see some of the fan favorite skins from smite 1 revamped for smite 2 in the future, and being forced to rebuy it. I don't think this would happen right away, but some smite 1 skins are so popular and have really cool voice packs/models. It will be temping for Hi-Rez to scoop up some easy money.
@fisharepeopletoo9653
@fisharepeopletoo9653 8 месяцев назад
Like you said skins are a money sink. When I buy a skin it isn't for any reason than I like the skin and want to use it as well as to support the game I've played for nearly a decade now. I know they are a "waste" of money at time of purchase, I could quit playing smite any day and would get nothing for all the money I'd spent in the game. This isn't something new, pretty much every game with purchasable cosmetics is in the same boat. It's crazy for people to get upset over this, because to me it just says they're ignorant of how the system works. I think it is a far more popular opinion that people want a quality smite 2 than that people want all their skins also. And if smite 2 drops and I enjoy the game I will continue to purchase cosmetics, not to build my smite skin portfolio but to support the devs that work hard to pump out constant content for the game I love, the same reason I have bought skins in the past.
@michaelrice7970
@michaelrice7970 8 месяцев назад
How are people saying that they are losing money? It's like doubling your money as you paid for 1 sink and now getting 2 skins?
@TheDevonshireMint
@TheDevonshireMint 8 месяцев назад
Honeslty im a lil sad cus i lose my skins but also i never expected to be able to take them across with how many there are.
@drewbaaca
@drewbaaca 8 месяцев назад
It’s crazy to people think that they own these skins or even a copy of the game. Hi Rez can do literally whatever they want and they realized that skite 1 is dying and smite 2 is the best chance to keep this community alive
@lissymaeb4918
@lissymaeb4918 8 месяцев назад
im sad to be losing alot of my favourite skins... but as has been eluded to. this supported hirez into developing this FREE game that i have enjoyed being frustrated at and screaming alot at for the past 4 years, and im so hyped for smite 2 and what ue5 is capable of regardless of my skins not being ported i will still definitely be playing smite 2 and i will be in alpha and beta
@walternelson9950
@walternelson9950 8 месяцев назад
I don’t care about the skins I buy skins to support Smite because when I look at the time played it is a bargain. It has brought me a lot of joy playing with the fellas and grinding ranked. At the end of the day Hi-Rez is a company and has to make money and knowing that I in some small way can support the people working there is nice.
@cutzurnutzov402
@cutzurnutzov402 8 месяцев назад
In my eyes it's the same concept of Destiny 2 releasing DLC then completely taking it out of the game. It sucks but everyone is going to keep playing like it didn't happen.
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