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Snake Bites & Cougar Safety in the Wilderness - CleverHiker.com
Snakes are the type of animals that many backpackers are very nervous about and would rather avoid altogether.
But seeing snakes in the backcountry can actually be very rewarding. They’re truly strange and beautiful creatures and they play critical role in the natural ecosystem.
Bites from venomous snakes should not be taken lightly, especially if you’re days away from medical attention, but fatalities from snakebites are incredibly rare.
Of the estimated 7,000-8,000 venomous snakebites per year in the United States, only an average of five people actually die from snakebites.
In North America, venomous snakes are more prevalent in warmer climates and it’s very unlikely likely that you’ll encounter them in northern climates.
The four types of venomous snakes to watch out for are rattlesnakes, cottonmouth, copperhead, and coral snakes.
Snakes will only attack you if they feel threatened, so provoking them or trying to pick them up is just about the last thing you want to do.
Feet and ankles are the most common bite locations, followed by hands. So be careful about picking things up from the ground too.
If you’re going to be hiking off trail for long distances in snake territory, you can protect yourself with long pants, ankle high boots, or even snake proof gaiters.
Remember, the key to avoiding snakebites is to leave them alone and keep your distance. Rattlesnakes for example can strike from half their body length away, so don’t take any chances.
If you do get bitten by a by a snake that you believe to be venomous, stay calm and get out to medical help as soon as you can.
A good percentage of bites to humans from venomous snakes are dry bites, meaning that the snake didn’t release any venom when it bit.
If bitten, allow the bite to bleed freely for about thirty seconds, then wash the wound with soap and water and dress it to keep it clean.
Remove any jewelry or tight clothing around the bite before the area starts to swell and remain calm to slow the spread of venom. Remember, it might be a dry bite.
If the bite begins to swell and change color, the snakebite was probably venomous. It’s critical that the victim remains calm, doesn’t over exert him/herself, and gets medical attention as soon as possible.
Keep the victim still and quiet. Restrict movement to prevent the flow of venom. Keep the bitten area at or slightly below heart level to reduce the flow of venom.
Transport the victim to the hospital for anti-venom treatment. Since the victim should exert as little energy as possible, using a makeshift stretcher with some stick and extra clothing would be best.
If that option isn’t available, have the victim walk out at a relaxed pace without carrying a backpack to minimize effort.
Remember, once properly treated, most snakebites will not have lasting effects and the chances of a fatal snakebite are very small.
There’s so much misinformation out there about what to do when bitten by a snake that it’s almost more important what you don’t do if you get bitten.
Don’t apply a tourniquet to the bitten limb.
Don’t cut the wound in an attempt to remove the venom.
Don’t try to suck the venom out with your mouth or with a suction device.
Don’t apply ice to the area.
Don’t let the bite victim eat or drink anything, especially caffeine or alcohol.
Don’t try to track and kill the snake to bring it in.
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Cougars are an incredibly rare sight for any backcountry visitors, even for scientists trying to count their numbers and track their movements.
Cougars are also referred to as mountain lion, puma, panther, and catamount. They are the largest wildcat in North America and their populations are almost exclusively on the western side of the continent.
The vast majority of backpackers will go their entire lifetimes without seeing a cougar in the wild. If you ever do see one, you’ll be one of the luck few that do.
Cougars are an animal that raise a lot of concern and attention from backcountry enthusiasts, but pose almost no serious threat.
Since the year 2000, there been a total of about 50 cougar attacks in all of North America, and only three of those attacks actually resulted in a fatality.

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@McClueFamily
@McClueFamily 9 лет назад
I watched this video last Thursday, then early yesterday (Monday) morning I had my first mountain lion encounter near Payson, Arizona on an overnight backpacking trip with a friend. I was awoken to something running through my camp just after sunrise... when I looked out my shelter the mountain lion was about four feet away. So, I just starting yelling "Get out of hear!" really loudly and fiercely. The mountain lion seemed to be spooked when I started yelling and it just started running faster, eventually looked back at me then took off down the hill after I yelled even louder. So, thank you for the advice it seemed to work pretty good! Even though it was scary at the time, I'm still glad I got to see one in the wild.
@ExquisiteTouch.M.M.P
@ExquisiteTouch.M.M.P Год назад
I have some wild stories from hallucinating on drugs to. 😂 I'm just messing with ya. Fun experience eh?
@McClueFamily
@McClueFamily Год назад
@@ExquisiteTouch.M.M.P Dude! Since that event 7 years ago, I've actually had another mountain lion encounter in the wild at the base of the Rincon Mountains near Tucson. It was no joke! This one had just taken down an adult deer and was still panting from the struggle when I came upon it. Plain and simple, I ran and got out of there as quickly as possible. The fact is when you hike a lot by yourself you see a lot more wildlife.
@ExquisiteTouch.M.M.P
@ExquisiteTouch.M.M.P Год назад
@@McClueFamily was ya smoking PCP or peyote this time? 😂 Again I'm just teasing with you. Relax! I believe you. I grew up hunting and fishing myself. More so fishing but I most certainly had my fair share of adventures in the outdoors. Few bear encounters. Of course bears are quite normal to see in the smokey mountains. Went there when I was in boyscouts for one of our trips. Great times. Most recent bear encounter was in Whitney point NY when I first moved up to NY. That one was by myself and it charged at me from my back right side. Stopped dead in it's tracks as soon as I turned to see what it was I was hearing coming towards me. Was about 15 feet staring a big black bear eye to eye. Slowly side stepped away and yelled for my 2 German shepherds that was completely oblivious to it. They was out playing in the tail grass being dogs. Got around the bend on path and the dogs came up wagging away. Still oblivious. Put them on their leash , still looking behind me, got about another 10 or so steps and took of like a bat outta hell. 😂 I like the outdoors . But don't venture alone much any longer. Unfortunately it's not just wildlife ya gotta watch out for , these days have some deranged ass characters out there to . ( Humans). Above was real but I got a bear story I'm going to share with ya, hopefully ya like it.
@ExquisiteTouch.M.M.P
@ExquisiteTouch.M.M.P Год назад
@@McClueFamily about 15 years ago I was visiting my grandmother in Montana. She has an old style cabin that is now renovated to have running water and a bathroom and all. But it's still cool cause it also has an old outhouse about 30 steps from cabin. Sits on one of the bigger lakes in Montana with now a ski resort on the mountain across the lake. Anyway I was about 30 at the time and like you I enjoyed strolling through the forest. So I packed enough food and gear for a full day and evening hike and a little fishing. ( Always carried emergency gear and rations along) I left just right as the sun just barely started to rise. Hiked a good 8-9 miles towards the nearest town. Stopped had lunch . Saw a few moose in the distance. A gigantic bull . This thing was huge. A little further I saw a sal with her calves. ( If that's the right name for female moose?) . All kinds of little critters. Was a great day . Came across a new little pond I haven't seen. Was nice cause I usually fish lakes which you know is usually low elevation in the valleys. Well I came across this little pond that was right near the very top of a big slope down the mountain where the nearest town was. Was cool and right next to some berry bushes. Well I decided that I would pick myself a little bit of berry, sit down , and throw my line in for awhile. Sat my ass down on a log and just chilling for a moment. What do you know what a beautiful day and I get a nibble on the end of my line. Couldn't be more beautiful right? So I hooked into a fish and excited started to reel her in . I flipped the fish onto the land and turned around to see this giant ass brown bear.( Griz ) . HOLLY SHIT! About 30 feet or so away and it started coming directly at me. I figured it wanted the fish so I calmly put my pole down and started to slowly and calmly back away. Like a dumbass my backpack with bearspray and my Ruger was leaned up against a tree now in the middle of me and the bear. It was coming towards me and I sure in hell wouldn't had got to it before the bear got to me. I just thought it was wanting the fish so I still casually continued to back step. I was now getting closer to the slope and ended up tripping over something. Still don't know what it was but that was my mistake. I don't know what it was if it was me falling that triggered him or he didn't want just the fish after all but he came charging . I was scared shitless and freaked out. Didn't try holding my ground or anything just ran for it. Well he came after me. I went down the hill and somehow was doing pretty good. There was a couple times that I could feel the bear catching up and I would jump and grab onto a tree and like a cartoon the bear sled and tumbled right by me. I couldn't believe it I thought I was going to die up on the side of a mountain and nobody would ever find me. Freaking terrified but I guess my adrenaline gave me a power greater than myself because I kept on. All the way down the mountainside this bear was on my ass literally. If it wasn't for me grabbing that tree and him sliding and tumbling I would be a goner. So I made it all the way down and luckily made it to a road where a big truck and just passed . I'm guessing it's what may have scared the bear? But I got away from him. I went in the first open business I could find. Was a little antique shop owned by a middle aged couple. I'm completely out of breath , soaked in sweat, and according the them they said I was white as a ghost. They asked if I was alright and I pretty much collapsed by their counter. Nice couple they got me some water and his wife got a wet rag and rubbed my head for awhile . They didn't know what to think but they went to call paramedis and I was able to at least wave and squeeze out an I'll be o.k . So after a little time I was up sitting on a chair and had my breath back. Of course they wanted to know what had happened. So I told them the story pretty much like I'm telling you. That man stood up ,looked at me and said..... Wow young man your very lucky, if that would had been me I would of shit my pants.... I said WHAT DO YOU THINK THE BEAR WAS SLIDING IN! 😂 😂 Sorry I know it was a bit before the punchline but I hope you like it and can share it. Obviously this bear story was b.s but the first text was 💯. With that I will wish you a good journey. Stay safe 👍
@bodhiherrison8286
@bodhiherrison8286 5 лет назад
I’ve had two cougar encounters in my life. Once when I was driving and looking for coyotes because I was bored and I saw it going up the side of a hill. It booked it after I saw it but still pretty cool. Another time, I was camping with my dog and a cougar was pacing around the tent. I could hear it’s low growling, or purring, when it breathed out and I saw the shadow through the moonlight. When the sun rose, there were cat prints all over my campsite.
@TheMattc999
@TheMattc999 5 лет назад
I actually enjoy coming across snakes. The largest venomous snake I have come across was a timber rattlesnake that was about 5 feet long, as thick as my forearm, and unfortunately very dead (looked like some a-hole came through before me saw it and killed it). Mountain lions on the other hand do worry me, but the only 2 times I have come across them in the wild one time it actively tried to get away from me as fast as possible, and the second time it wasn't as bothered by me, but it also was in no way interested in me, and that encounter was with a very large lion, at a distance of about 5 feet.
@sanmarcoexplorer2726
@sanmarcoexplorer2726 4 месяца назад
Waw How that went? What did you do ?
@russellmoore1533
@russellmoore1533 6 лет назад
Here in Australia for snake bite, we use a constricting bandage that is wrapped firmly around as much as the bitten limb as possible. It is not a tourniquet, but a way to restrict the lymph system transmitting the venom around your body. It alone can save your life, walking after being bitten can hasten the spread of the venom.
@Beukdeup
@Beukdeup 4 года назад
Russell Moore I imagine snake bites there are different because of the types of snakes. Coral snakes are the most potent here, but bites are very very rare. The other three are usually not deadly. I’m no expert, but that might be the reason there is a difference in how to handle the bites in the US?
@tanyapetersen8354
@tanyapetersen8354 3 года назад
Totally agree. Latest best practice in Australia also stipulates do not irrigate area. Stay put, don't move limb and get help to come to victim when ever possible.
@cindys9491
@cindys9491 3 года назад
We have cytotoxic/hemotoxic venom in the US most of the time. Because of this, pressure bandages aren't recommended here. If we constrict the area, we pool the venom in one limb, causing massive tissue damage. In Australia, there are many (almost guaranteed lethal if untreated) neurotoxic snakes, so pressure bandages are good there. It stops the deadly neurotoxins from spreading.
@trailken1963
@trailken1963 9 лет назад
Every time I get to view a cougar or bobcat on the trail, trek or climb I feel blessed. Magnificent creatures. The reptiles are pretty cool too- but far to easy to step on while they sleep on the trail or startle from sleep as they set on rocks along the trail or banks.
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 9 лет назад
Trailken1 Yeah, I'm with you on that. I've never seen a cougar but I've almost stepped on a handful of snakes. Definitely have to be aware when hiking in snake country. Thanks for the comment!
@1wetpaint
@1wetpaint 9 лет назад
Good video. Here in Louisiana, we get quite a few snakes. The copperheads tend to be the most scary as they want to stand their ground. Keeping your eyes open and avoidance is always good advice. Thanks for sharing.
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 9 лет назад
1wetpaint Thanks! Good input on copperheads too. Have a good one!
@lindarandall4094
@lindarandall4094 9 лет назад
Well done, Dave! I am an "old" backpacker and it's great to see essential information provided to the newbies coming along.
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 9 лет назад
Linda Randall Thank you very much Linda!
@engine2truck6
@engine2truck6 2 года назад
I have had many cougar encounters, And I find if you offer to buy them a drink, and keep the conversation light and non-threatening… It goes pretty well!
@eleonoradjurdjic420
@eleonoradjurdjic420 6 лет назад
Man you have excellent videos! Thourough yet concise, great music and intro. I instantly subscribed, greatly appreciate your effort to share such valuable information helping to keep people & nature safe! Best of luck to you! Thanks a million!
@philipbonafede7320
@philipbonafede7320 3 года назад
Spot on and accurate information. I been hiking and handling rattlesnakes for over 45 years. I teach K9 Rattlesnake aversion classes, So I know a little bit about snakes. I went through the wilderness safety classes over 30 years ago. The same safety for Mountain Lions also works on wild aggressive dogs and even bears! Great information!!! Spot on!!
@theprophetez1357
@theprophetez1357 4 года назад
I remember open air camping with two of my friends. We were in sleeping bags on a tarp with no overhead cover. We were almost asleep when I felt a large heavy snake crawling across my abdomen, and told Ray not to freak out because the snake was going to slither across him next. We then tried to warn Scott but he was already asleep. We were not really frightened but it was quite an encounter.
@GruntProof
@GruntProof 5 лет назад
Great tips!
@drewwatts2803
@drewwatts2803 9 лет назад
As always, great video Dave. I am always excited to see what outdoor topics you are going to address next!
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 9 лет назад
Drew Watts Thanks so much for the comment Drew! I appreciate your support.
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 9 лет назад
Do you know how to treat a snake bite in the wilderness? What would you do if you came face-to-face with a mountain lion on the trail? Check out this week's Essential Trail Skills episode for Snake & Cougar safety tips. Enjoy! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-onLNvCssDUo.html
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 9 лет назад
Haha, I hear you. Nostalgia can add a lot to backpacking trips.
@DanielAlvarez-xz8sr
@DanielAlvarez-xz8sr 8 лет назад
+Dave Collins (CleverHiker) So how do you know when to fight the mountain lion? How do you know if it's going attack?
@PantheraOnca60
@PantheraOnca60 7 лет назад
The answer to the first question is easy: if it attacks, you fight. kick it, punch it, go for the eyes and ears -- get mad at it, be aggressive. Chances are, you're bigger than it is. A few mountain lions get to as much as 250 pounds, but most are smaller. Otherwise, posture, as the video says. Make noise, look as big as you can, and face it down. As for your second question, cat behavior is cat behavior. If its tail is twitching, that's a sign that it's aroused -- not good. If its ears are forward, that a sign of aggression or at least curiosity. Ears back, even if it's snarling or screaming (the noise they make can be blood curdling), is defensive, if it makes a move toward you, charge it. It will almost certainly run. A mountain lion nearly always attacks from behind; a frontal assault is far less likely.
@kosmokritikos9299
@kosmokritikos9299 11 месяцев назад
On the rare occasions that a cougar attacks, it is often a person who is running or jogging. These attacks are often by juveniles and are instinctive in nature. Think of a house cat with a tempting mouse toy on the end of a string or a laser pointer. It is best not to jog in cougar country and never run if you encounter one on the trail.
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker Месяц назад
Agreed, very good advice. Thanks for the input!
@CMDwyer
@CMDwyer 9 лет назад
I really enjoy these videos...my wife and I are preparing for a two night backpacking trip in the Adirondack Mtns. of Upstate New York and I think I have watched them all. Great advice!
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 9 лет назад
C.M. Dwyer Thanks so much C.M.! I really appreciate that.
@harrisn3693
@harrisn3693 4 года назад
C.M. Dwyer You won’t necessarily find cougars there (unless you go into Canada) but definitely you will find venomous snakes in the summer.
@coolkid9967
@coolkid9967 2 года назад
@@harrisn3693 I think it’s a little late to tell him this lol
@sanmarcoexplorer2726
@sanmarcoexplorer2726 4 месяца назад
Thank you so much for very informative video!
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker Месяц назад
You are so very welcome! Thank you for the kind words.
@kaylasadiva
@kaylasadiva 9 лет назад
Thats why I usually pack a gun while backpacking.
@fsirjyy147
@fsirjyy147 8 лет назад
Ya I hear you, I do to.
@fsirjyy147
@fsirjyy147 8 лет назад
I only carry it for possible emergency situations, but I do carry bear spray, cause I don't want to have to use it on the animals if I don't have to, just in a life or death situation, cause most of the time it won't bring down the animal right away then it will possibly run off and die somewhere else at some point.
@calebhodson5122
@calebhodson5122 6 лет назад
Taurus Judge is fantastic. You can load it with .410 shotgun shells and .45 long colt centerfire pistol cartridges. Bear spray is not only effective against bears it also works on cougars too. Firearms are only 50-70% effective while bear spray is 90%.
@daveat191
@daveat191 5 лет назад
Bear spray is most efficent
@harrisn3693
@harrisn3693 4 года назад
Caleb Hodson wut? A bullet is 100% effective if it kills the damn thing.
@PantheraOnca60
@PantheraOnca60 7 лет назад
Actually, just to get technical, jaguars are the largest cats in North America (maybe someone has already pointed this out), not uncommon in Mexico and points south from there. And there now appear to be very small breeding populations of Jaguars in the extreme southern areas of Arizona, and possibly Texas, from what I've read. A few years back, _Backpacker_ magazine listed the jaguar as one of the species to be found in the lower elevations of the Sky Island Mountains in Arizona. That's kind of exciting, having a roaring cat back in the U.S. years after they were wiped out. I hope they expand their territory once again.
@PantheraOnca60
@PantheraOnca60 7 лет назад
Oh, and another great video!
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 7 лет назад
Thanks for the info! Good to know.
@berinlist
@berinlist 2 года назад
The thing about seeing mountain lions is you usually just see the ass end with that long tail. Live in the mountains of North Carolina, everyone says there are no mountain lions here, sorry had one run right in front of my car on a dirt road. First I thought it was a large dog, but dogs don't have the flat face and long tail like cats do.
@playinem121
@playinem121 6 лет назад
Bro...those figures on virtually everyone surviving snakebites are primarily because virtually everyone bitten in the US gets antivenom treatment. Even if a bite isn't fatal it can be very serious. In the Army, I was a primarily a medic on a team in Honduras near the Nicaraguan border. While conducting support ops a guy on my team got bitten by a Barba Amarillo (Fer de Lance). I had antivenom at our base camp and he was medivaced out to Tegucigalpa and eventually to Panama and back to Fort Bragg. He ended up losing Three fingers off of his left hand. Avoid snakes if you can and if you're bitten seek help IMMEDIATELY or ASAP!
@cindys9491
@cindys9491 3 года назад
Ugh, lanceheads. I'm sorry your friend got bit.
@Oldsparkey
@Oldsparkey 8 лет назад
If you see a Coral Snake it has a Black Nose , Think the Black Nosed SOB , A Scarlet King Snake ( a good and beneficial snake ) has a Red Nose. The easiest way to tell the difference is with the nose colors. Basically if you leave the snakes alone they will leave you alone. The one with a really bad attitude is the Water Moccasin and even they will leave you alone if you give them some lea way.
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 7 лет назад
Good tips!
@frankblangeard8865
@frankblangeard8865 3 года назад
Oregon is one of the most northern of the United States. Rattlesnakes are fairly common in the eastern part of the state which has the coldest winter compared to the western half of the state.
@pipe2devnull
@pipe2devnull 2 года назад
There are rattlesnakes in Canada.
@ThePreineja
@ThePreineja 6 лет назад
So if your say 15 miles out on a hike and get bit are you better off trying to walk out, or use an SOS beacon if you have one?
@skiskate15
@skiskate15 9 лет назад
Good video.
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 9 лет назад
Samuel L. Jackson Thanks!
@jessemn228
@jessemn228 6 лет назад
good info, but rattle snakes can strike 2/3rds of their body length not half
@navikzc4738
@navikzc4738 2 года назад
After 30 seconds of bleeding. If able is using clean water and a zip lock baggie with small holes. To create a "manual flushing system" the ideal option?
@metablue4454
@metablue4454 3 года назад
Good video. And, as usual, there are a lot of cute comments below. That said, I have a friend who was bitten by a rattler in the cul-de-sac of her neighborhood in Tucson years ago. She didn't even have to walk out of the wilderness. She was in the hospital for weeks and, now 20 years later, has suffered permanent nerve damage in that leg. They finally gave her anti-venom in the hospital... (they held off for a while since she didn't have insurance at the time) which saved her. I've often wondered what would have happened if she'd been bitten up in the mountains near her home. Apparently, access to medical help is key... providing medical help is available. For example, in India elifesciences.org estimates 58,000 deaths from snakebite per year (the highest death rate in the world)... with most occurring at home in rural areas... where access to medical care is diminished. Like you said, it is of paramount importance to be mindful of one's surroundings and avoid taking chances.
@Iconoclasher
@Iconoclasher 6 лет назад
Thank you for the information. Can Bear repellant be used for mtn lions?
@danceswithcritters
@danceswithcritters 4 года назад
it's worth a shot. find a big stick too if you can .
@KemDIY
@KemDIY 4 года назад
Yes I’ve seen a video where someone used it on a cougar. It ran away. It’s just pepper spray so any mammal will likely react to being sprayed.
@John-go2is
@John-go2is 6 лет назад
How effective are high leather boots (like combat boots) against snake bite?
@danceswithcritters
@danceswithcritters 4 года назад
better than sandals for sure .
@BurleighW
@BurleighW 5 лет назад
Would an air horn, flare or bear spray be effective for cougars?
@danceswithcritters
@danceswithcritters 4 года назад
I would think so .
@OOTurok
@OOTurok 9 лет назад
I had my 1st & only cougar encounter so far, at Big Bend National Park, when I was 13. I was in a small canyon like area that was a cliff on one end, where I was looking out to the landscape beyond. When I turned around, there was a cougar about 20' from me. I had a cliff behind me, rocky walls next to me, & a cougar blocking my only exit. I didn't know what to do so I just stood there, the cat & I staring at each other. Then the cat laid down sphinx style. Tired myself, I sat down Indian style. It was like the scene from Conan the Barbarian, where he sat staring at his 1st arena opponent. The cat & I just stared at each other for almost an hour. Then the cougar calmly got up & walked away.
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 9 лет назад
OOTurok Great story! Thanks for sharing.
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 9 лет назад
LN Laughlin Thanks for the insight! Good info to keep in mind.
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 9 лет назад
LN Laughlin Shiver indeed! I'm glad I don't have to worry about crocs or bees on the majority of my hikes. Yikes!
@OOTurok
@OOTurok 9 лет назад
LN Laughlin Well you could carry a smoker with you just in case of a killer bee attack. Use the smoker to smoke yourself & the bees won't sting... or at least not as many. How it works? .... Smoke disrupts the bee's chemical communication. It literally confuses them so they become docile. Not sure how practical that solution is though. LOL
@PantheraOnca60
@PantheraOnca60 7 лет назад
Actually, the number one killer in the U.S. is... wait for it... DEER. No joke. They're involved in 1.4 million car wrecks annually, killing as many as 200 people per year. Bees, on average, kill about 50. And since 2010, there have been only six documented lethal alligator attacks on humans in the U.S. (there are American crocodiles, but they are confined to coastal areas of southern Florida, and are comparatively rare).
@ExquisiteTouch.M.M.P
@ExquisiteTouch.M.M.P Год назад
Why worry? Snake bites ya then bite it back and go on with your day. 😂
@timothyeubanks32100
@timothyeubanks32100 8 лет назад
great job on this video. you have covered snakes, cougars, and bears. now you should do a video on what to do if you encounter freaky scary people. hillbillies that would like nothing more then to eat you for dinner. Or if you stumble on to some crazy cult meeting in the forest. or some killers on the run in a mountain hideout. what about scary people on the trail?
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 7 лет назад
Thanks! Lol, not much I can say about scary people on the trail, but I agree, people are probably the most dangerous animals to worry about out there.
@Teza1984
@Teza1984 9 лет назад
Just a quick question, what's the thinking behind washing the bite site? In Australia, we're taught not to wash the bite site, as the venom around the bite can be used to identify the family of snake that bit you and therefore what anti-venom you need. Is this not done in the US?
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 9 лет назад
Huh, good question! My guess is that we have many fewer venomous snakes in the US, so the identification process is different than in Australia. But to be honest, I'm not quite sure.
@Teza1984
@Teza1984 9 лет назад
Dave Collins No worries, I'm tipping if they needed the venom around the bite site the medical authorities would indicate as much. Great vid, always interesting to see how things are done on different continents due to the differing nature of the wildlife. Thanks for the brilliant videos, you've been a huge help.
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 9 лет назад
Aussie Terry Thanks Terry!
@come_explore_with_me_IL
@come_explore_with_me_IL 6 лет назад
I downloaded two PDF's on my phone, one from Aussie oy oy oy land and the other from USA, oddly enough they both had the exact same filename (Snake-bites-fact-sheet.pdf) which made my phone ask me if I want to download the same file again! But the Ozzie one (QLD) said to apply a tourniquet (well actually they said pressure bandage) and the one from the American Hiking society said Do not do that!
@TheMattc999
@TheMattc999 5 лет назад
Dave Collins all of the venomous snakes (with the exception of the coral snake) in the U.S. are in the same family, and the antivenin we have in the states can be used for any snake you will be bitten by except for the coral snake, so identification of the species is not really critical for treatment here in the U.S.
@2oceanside
@2oceanside 5 лет назад
Love your cougar comment. Good one! Grrrowl. :o)
@jamesaritchie2
@jamesaritchie2 8 лет назад
I know what they say about sucking the wound, but I also know that you can get some of the venom out of the wound, if you apply good suction fast enough. Some snakebite kits have very strong suction devices, and if bitten, I am going to use it. I've never seen damage from these devices, and any venom you get out helps. I live pretty far north, and we have long, cold winters. We also have a lot of rattlesnakes, copperheads, and water moccasins. Of the three, copperheads worry most back country people the most. Rattlesnakes have stronger venom, but rattlesnakes are timid, and will do their best to avoid a person. Copperheads can be very aggressive, and are far more likely to bite you.
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 8 лет назад
Thanks for the comment James! The literature I've read and the experts I trust say not to suck out the venom or use a suction device. So that's why I recommend not doing that. If you know of any studies that suggest otherwise please let me know. Thanks!
@PatrickSullivanJ
@PatrickSullivanJ 5 лет назад
What about cougar snakes? Only joking. Thanks for the videos!
@maikp5505
@maikp5505 2 года назад
I was attacked by a cougar once. She locked me in her room and wouldn’t let me leave.
@lovehandles16
@lovehandles16 7 лет назад
Guess I'm one of the lucky backpackers to come across a mountain lion in its natural habitat when on foot and black bears for that matter too. I can't explain the feeling too well but it's a lot like oh f@ck😂😂. Always carry a deterrent is all I can say💩
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 7 лет назад
Thanks for sharing!
@craig3346
@craig3346 6 лет назад
Just a few days ago two mountain bikers were attacked by a cougar, they fought the cougar off wich had returned later to kill one of the mountain bikers while the other successfully got away
@alfonsogaona6028
@alfonsogaona6028 4 года назад
If you encounter a cougar in the wild, make sure you have a nice slab of pork ribs in hand and say, here pretty cougar just leave me alone.
@markopetrov691
@markopetrov691 3 года назад
what about snakes that dwell on trees?
@waterwarriors911
@waterwarriors911 2 года назад
This information needs to include the mohave green. I have personally watch in the last 2 weeks 3 donkeys and 1 horse and 2 dogs all die horrible deaths from the mohave green rattlesnake.
@trailken1963
@trailken1963 9 лет назад
Thumbs up!
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 9 лет назад
Trailken1 Thanks! Thumbs up to you for the comment!
@marcalan1198
@marcalan1198 3 года назад
Dave Collins? I doubt you ever read comments on your video. But if you come to my comment please look into the death and disappearance of bowhunter and bear biologist Bart shyler. He went missing in the Yukon on a solo moose Hunting trip in September of 2004. All that was found of him was his baclava/hunting mask with slight bit of his blood inside.also his camo pants a camera and partial skull and teeth. No Boots or other clothing was ever found. Mr Collins I just want your opinion on what happened to a bear biologist and bowhunter that was a supreme Hunter. Again missing in the Yukon 2004 moose Hunting trip Solo. People are saying Sasquatch got him? Lol give your opinion if you get time to read the case.thanks Dave.
@elliotwong8416
@elliotwong8416 4 года назад
luckily in those area you dont have a brown sneak
@philtucker1541
@philtucker1541 9 лет назад
This video should have included what park rangers in cougar country do to avoid a cougar attack from behind, they wear jackets with eyes painted on the back.
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 9 лет назад
Phil Tucker Interesting point Phil. I'd heard of that before and I bet that works. Thanks for sharing!
@stvsanders
@stvsanders 6 лет назад
Cougars will go for the mouth and neck area. They are pretty common in the Utah back country. They are the reason I think its important to carry a gun when solo hiking in the wilderness areas in Utah. In our town here a housing development was started that backed up to the BLM land. They caught and trapped 10 cougars the first year alone that were coming into the area being developed.
@Beukdeup
@Beukdeup 4 года назад
Don’t forget they use their hind legs to gouge our your intestines.
@jamessim1858
@jamessim1858 4 года назад
Hey dudes did you see the cougar laughing in the tree just to the left of the geezer Ha,Ha,
@bellathecockatoo1350
@bellathecockatoo1350 6 лет назад
anybody who like snakes gets my sub, good video mate
@2oceanside
@2oceanside 5 лет назад
Dance with me baby!
@geraldhenrickson7472
@geraldhenrickson7472 8 лет назад
Well then...time to toss all those snake bite kits! sheesh what a scam that turned out to be.
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 8 лет назад
+G “Jerry” Henrickson Lol, I know right!
@daveat191
@daveat191 5 лет назад
While only few people die from snake bite, you might require $10,000 worth of anti-venom or half that of your lucky.
@mikejones9524
@mikejones9524 5 лет назад
Protect ya neck son
@TheTraveler33
@TheTraveler33 5 лет назад
So they stomp their feet and then immediately go through the brushy area? Sorry, but snakes don't move that fast. They will still be there to bite and now they are fully aware you are coming. When if you didn't do that, they might not be aware in time to bite. Yeah, great safety tip man! If you're in camp, then yes, a lot of noise helps to keep them away. Following his advice would be a great way to get bit when you might not have if you didn't follow that stupid tip. And if bitten, wait a couple of minutes for it to bleed, then clean, keep them from moving, MAKE A MAKESHIFT STRETCHER etc. etc. By then they have lost several precious minutes or a half hour while you're trying to figure the whole stretcher thing. Minutes that should spent getting to a hospital. By then, the venom is well into doing it's damage and the person won't be able to even walk on their own and will probably die there. Yeah, great advice man. This guy is a complete idiot. Do NOT follow most of his advice is you want to survive. And the up votes on this video just go to show how little people do know what is good or bad advice. And the best part is when he says there is a lot of false information on the subject. Which he proves with his horrible advice. Lol! True good advice is to get to the hospital ASAP. Period! Whatever is the fastest way to make that happen is what is good advice. And most of the time it will require the person to walk. If you're really out in the wild, then most likely you're going to be taking a helicopter ride. That with a dozen or two vials of Crofab antivenin and a 2 to 5 hundred thousand dollar hospital bill and you're good to go. Lol! When in the vehicle to get there, then they should move as little as possible. Do NOT DO ANYTHING other than get to the hospital asap. Do no try any form of first aid other than yes, remove anything restricting the area. Socks, rings, etc.
@grizzlycountry1030
@grizzlycountry1030 9 лет назад
As a former medic let me say do not follow the portion about treating snakebites in this video.
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 9 лет назад
Grizzly Country Care to elaborate?
@bonnielong5812
@bonnielong5812 4 года назад
Dave Collins My EXACT WORDS!!!
@danceswithcritters
@danceswithcritters 4 года назад
@@CleverHiker no reply, guess he died of snakebite ?
@HunterLo25
@HunterLo25 9 лет назад
So I wasted money on a snake bite kit? Lol
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 9 лет назад
HunterLo25 Hahaha, yup. Afraid so. That one got me back in the day too. Thanks for watching!
@HunterLo25
@HunterLo25 9 лет назад
thanks Dave. I've learned a lot. Awesome videos!
@CleverHiker
@CleverHiker 9 лет назад
HunterLo25 Thanks so much!
@calebhodson5122
@calebhodson5122 6 лет назад
ICSharp25 @ The only snakebite kit that has any value in treating a snakebite is the one that is on the market by Sawyer products called the Sawyer extractor. But it is only effective if used within 5 minutes of the bite. Don't use the kits that contain a scalpel blade and rubber suction cups. They are very dangerous and will not remove much venom.
@achotistable7193
@achotistable7193 5 лет назад
No you didn't. It's best to listen to more than one opinion when it comes to snake bite kits. Many people who have had to use them said they're uber glad they did.
@waterwarriors911
@waterwarriors911 2 года назад
EVERY SNAKE I SEE WILL BE THE LAST HUMAN THEY SEE. THEY WILL MEET THEIR DEMISE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@harrisn3693
@harrisn3693 4 года назад
Or just fight that cougar like a manly man.
@pipe2devnull
@pipe2devnull 2 года назад
I met a Lynx on a road one evening in Northern Ontario. I wasn't afraid because I had never heard of them being dangerous. We just watched each other for a bit and it moved off. Cool cat.
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