Season 1. "Freedom, freedom from all of it" whilst in the liquor store he works in as a kid Season 6. "I'm free, free from all of it" after buying a bottle from the same liquor store he used to work in They put so much detail in this
Heartbreaking, but a realistic ending. Nobody got a happy ending, just shows you it’s not all fun & games in the drug business. We gotta give Damson Idris his flowers, he killed the role of Franklin Saint.
Bingo!!!! You are spot on but who would believe them?? I bet they have lots of crazy stories. Their mind gets stuck at that time zone because they can’t come to grips that it’s over from all angles except their own angle which is redemption and that takes lots of work to do
@user-ul6gb1uo7e yepp it comes full circle you become what you was feeding to the streets, you created it so now you live in it. I have a theory that if they was to make a spinoff I think Franklin would land on his feet, not as in get back in the game but just a normal life
The beat dropping into "Pride." really just stomped my heart knowing that this was truly the end of the story for Franklin Saint. Leon saw a broken man, while Franklin was fine with being his version of "free." Frank didn't want any pity from Leon, which is why he kept walking. Great show with an ending that made it amazing. Hopefully we see Damson in other works after this. RIP John Singleton..
This finale was PERFECT. Pride really bought saint to where he is now. He had so much pride that his best friend offered him a job but his pride & greed was so extreme that even at rock bottom he turned it down because if Frankie couldn’t be king he didn’t want it
Craziest thing is when you see the OG at the liquor talking about back in the day and you just kind of brush him off not knowing he probably did live that life.
Nah when Cissy didn’t wanna let Franklin in the house during S2 made me shed a tear where he wanted to talk about how good a day he had and she locked him out it hurt me to my core reminded me of me and my mom
@@bulldawg986 nah it definitely is Leon will live far away with Wanda regretting his life decisions and Franklin will just stay on the streets drinking and most likley getting into punch ups til he ends up dead or he just gets worse goes beyond drinking and becomes a crackhead of his own either way my man is done for plus everyone he ever loved is gone in prison out the country or dead there's no hope for him plus he's free now
4 ways to get out the game: "El Camino": on the run as a fugitive "Better Call Saul": incarcerated/life sentence "Breaking Bad": killed off Here, thrown away, forgotten by society, with nothing to your name
Franklin was evil Leon was ruthless but had a heart and killing that kid messed him up badly it broke him but Franklin was a stone cold brutal man now he walks the streets that he destroyed and ruled for years as one of the victims of himself as they said "the drug and alcohol epidemic" that was caused by Franklin and ended with him
As sad as this was, it was fitting. Franklin destroyed his entire community and I see the overall message of the show and a great music selection in the end - Kendrick's "Pride". In the end, Franklin's pride was his downfall. Overall, power and greed leads to corruption, and you will reap what you sow. Also, people who've done some of the worst things in history to many people, usually start off with the best intentions for some people. Yeah, his fate was worse than death, but it doesn't equate to the countless lives he destroyed along the way. MAN WHAT A GREAT SHOW.
It really sucks how misunderstood the ending is. Even when a song called pride is playing ppl still don’t get it Frank is a tragic character that ended up exactly where he was trying to avoid bc of his own pride and greed
A man like Franklin did it start to finish , when you deep into he game ain’t no turning back . His mom played him, and Leon. Leon never had a mother that was there and Franklin mom played on that and twisted his mind when they had scenes together and the nail on the coffin was when she told him don’t give Franklin anything. Leon being stupid went with it and look at it as she sacrificed herself she locked up, who told her to do that , that was her own doing. Franklin was winning the whole time because the CIA kick teddy out and he was gonna be the fall guy for all of it making teddy a clean kill by Franklin because teddy no longer had the protection of CIA. Teddy knew that and that’s why he took his money and also teddy own life was going downhill
FR BRO LIKE DUDE I JUST FINISHED IT LAST NIGHT AND IN MY MIND I LITERALLY SAID PRIDE SHOULD PLAY AND WHEN IT DID I HAD SO MUCH GOODEBUMPS THIS SHOW IS AMAZING
This was one of my favorite songs on the album and the second it came on I got chills bro. “ I wasn’t taught to share but care” he loved everybody but was still greedy and it killed him. One of the greatest ending of all time
hits hard how the episode is called "sins of the farther" because after despising everything his farther did and his addiction to alcohol, he ends up in the same fate. Without even realising it.
Call me a p*ssy but I cried my soul out when he said “you’re my best friend and Iam proud of you” I deep the storyline from A to Z from the beginning and this ending and got mad chills from it, it feels it affects me in real life. Even the music at the end haunts me weeks later. Snowfall is a masterpiece!
Ong bro, just finished the last episode I’ve been crying. It’s affecting me as I speak. Thinking to my self that whole show really just took a peice out my heart. Fucking masterpiece.
I finished it with my mom last night, I watched it over the course of a few months and my mom eventually caught up to me and we watched the last few episodes together, and I was so close to crying at this ending. If I watched it by myself back to back with those last few episodes I would've been in the same boat as you, this ending is the only thing I've been thinking about for the whole day, it was so beautifully made.
do you think a drug lord would have given some random black kid a Kilo of snow and expected him to return the money he made off of it?@@predoirares6877
He accepted (finally) what he had done. This was him telling Leon that he was going to keep down the road he had paved for himself even though it was a road to nowhere BECAUSE he had paved it. Earlier Alton talks about that freedom. Franklin doesn't understand because he looks at Alton as JUST another drunken bum because that's what he is on the surface. In reality Alton had accepted the hell he had created for himself past all the ideologies, the murder, the running. He was free because he had accepted what he did. Franklin finally accepted his wrongs here. Except, to accept the wrongs Franklin did means he has to accept that even though he could have had everything he would have lost what little bit he had left getting it. Here he accepts that although he has nothing it's a freedom. He's no dog for the government anymore but he's also not trying to get his wings back through Leon's offer for some redemption because he's too far gone for that and HE did that and he KNOWS that. He knew that all along too which is why when he's tripping on that acid at that party all his guilt and paranoia finally topples over and appears to him as hallucinations and all he's left as is the naive child he is when stripped of his pride and greed. He tried so hard to do things his way through out the series that he never stopped to take in al the horrible things he did or the way he treated everyone else. Like i said earlier, he accepts that. It's why they use the song's intro and why it cuts off before Kendrick's verse. "In another life I was there." In another life Franklin had that money. That's probably what he was thinking about for those years he spent hitting that bottle. This moment was the show letting us know he accepts that it's gone. It's why instead of a hand out he lets Leon know he's proud of him because that's all that's left. He's given in. The only part of the story he knows is his now is accepting the consequences of everything.
@@marvelpugs6964Not once did I ever dislike Oso. There were plenty of times when Wanda and Leon pissed me off, but damn Gustavo was just too damn likeable the entire show
This song was the perfect choice for this ending because the meaning behind this songs goes into Kendrick’s “Pride” and how he knows he is imperfect but he is one of the greatest hip hop artist to ever do it. In the beginning of the song it goes “Loves gonna get you killed, but Prides gonna be the death of you” and this whole song basically represents the character of Franklin Saint how he was very prideful in his work and determination not caring about anyone but himself. This song was the perfect way to end this show, because it really shows how pride led to this characters downfall, destroying everything around him to the point he ends up with nothing.
This ending is absolutely haunting. It will sit with me for a very long time. Pride by Kendrick was the perfect closing song. One of the top endings to a series for me. It brings tears to my eyes thinking of all the lives that have been destroyed by the actions of our government, and the things done in our name for these never ending wars. Just think, if this is what our government was doing in the 80s and 90s, what have they been doing that we don't even know about since the start of the 21st century?
This show reminds me of my brother a little bit. When he was a kid he sold drugs, made a lot of money always had an entourage. He bought expensive things, had a new girl every week. But then he lost it all, got arrested, lost his friends, became homeless and drank himself to death My brother would say this same thing to me with the same little detail like lifting his feet when he said he was proud of me. And just like this ending when anyone tried to reach back out he stepped away.
This is depressing... I had an OG from the projects I lived in, claim to be the baddest and biggest mf around back in his day... Makes me think about this video and how they lost it all too and no one believes them
His mother is in prison without parole his father is dead his best friend is dead loui has to hide his uncle is dead hi lost his girlfriend and kid All this because a boy named rob asked him to buy some snow for him🤣
I like how they ended the series with Franklin becoming a shell of the man he built himself up to be just to end up like his father instead of just having him get killed he ends up slowly killing himself with alcohol, and also the shift in maturity between Franklin and Leon's relationship from the first epsiode compared to the ending
At that moment when Franklin parted ways from Leon, it was at that moment that Franklin became a humbled human being. After all that lust for money and power he knew it was time to kill that version of Franklin and turn over a new leaf. It literally took everything hes got to be stripped away from him just so he can realize what he was doing was pure evil and morally wrong. He lost friends and family along the way. And now he wants to take "Pride" in fixing his responsibilities and let nobody help him when he is at his lowest. I think we all go through that mental phase in life to where we need to kill the version of ourselves that make us weak and stagnant in order to make us a more stronger independent person. You know what the sad part about this scene is not Franklin's struggle itself, but the controversial wake up call that people have to hit rock bottom in order to appreciate the good things that they have in life that other people don't have. I'm wondering what life would I have lived if I didn't have both of my parents in my life? How many people didn't have both parents? What would my life be like if there was drugs involved during my depression phases? There's a lot of what ifs to each alternative reality based off the choices you do in life.
Yea 100% agree with you and in the beginning he wanted freedom but by the end he realizes that all of that lust and greed to make money of crack he envy to make more money through illegal means, and his wrath to be violent, on others and destroy people lives wasn’t freedom at but being tied down to the money 💴 and to teddy and the CIA those things took controlled of Franklin but sadly he lost everyone and everything except Leon and be glutton to alcohol that’s what all it took to realize it wasn’t worth it and he is indeed a failure (sloth) for who he became and all of that was his (pride) the main factor in all of this but the good thing about this is that triumphantly (in his own way) declaring that he is now "free from all of it." the burden from money addiction and from teddy and the CIA even tho it’s still sad tho
The part where he says “look, they are filming a movie here.” And he yells “not like yall going to win an Oscar?” That would have been Boyz In The Hood they were filming there. Just a nice little Easter egg.
Wow crazy. i didn't think of the Singleton connection at that moment. Would have been nice if they had dropped a reference, maybe someone looking or dressed like Cuba around the set.
The moral I take from this is maybe a little different from what others took. Everybody knows the junkie or alcoholic on the street who tells crazy stories that are impossible to believe. We just write them off as insane. But maybe we shouldn't be so quick to write them off. In Franklin's case, the crazy stories he'd tell are true.
Exactly. This is real life stuff. Them junkies or lowkey old neighborhood dudes that be telling you them wild stories might be telling the truth. You would be a fool to completely dismiss their sayings.
That's because in every hood there's a guy like this. A dude who was on top, straight doing his thing only to fall right to the bottom. There's a Franklin Saint in every hood.
@@joshuacummings3178 Season 5 I think, Oso and Franklin in the wrong neighbourhood and encounter a tiger. Now wouldn’t that be an outrageous story the local bum/drunk would tell?
Not the ending we wanted but the ended was needed. I was rooting for Franklin from season 1 to 3 around season 4 he became cold and heartless. And I knew it wasn’t gonna end well. But becoming his father? Didn’t see that ending playing out at all.
@@tokyoziah2242Leon did most of his evil on Franklins behalf, Leon's fate is living in guilt, but he was wise enough to get out rather than go deeper into crime, which earned him life.
@@smittyjjensin558 leon was still in the drug business when franklin was asking him for his money, franklin literally wanted out but couldn't since people like teddy were screwing him over
Everyone knows the drunken homeless dude who had rumors of being a millionaire or he'd talk to to you and your boys about how he ran everything And youd laugh at him
Yeah no doubt. I think in this case though everybody knows who he is. He’s always going to be basically the face of crack cocaine. At least LA we’ll see it that way.
@@na6733 you’re obviously not from any kind of hood then. You don’t have to be a degenerate to know people like that, especially if you live in a drug poisoned community.
@@na6733 Good for you You didn't grow up struggling. Not everyone gets the luxury you have. Knowing homeless people doesn't make people degenerates. Being a middle class screw up like yourself is.
When Franklin agreed to do the deal with Teddy i knew he lost himself. You saw How addicted he was. He looked like a kid looking at candy. He didn’t even think about what Teddy would do to him after he got it. Its like rock. You just care about the temporary enyojement.
I’ve watched a lot of shows sopranos, the wire, breaking bad, boardwalk empire, oz, all in the same category and snowfall was recommended to me by my co workers and I’ll tell you I’ve never been into a show so much in my life and in my opinion I absolutely loved the way this show ended and I ain’t ashamed to say it shit made me cry and think about it for days Lmaoo that’s how you know it’s a damn good show! Snowfall is one of the best shows ever fr I’m just sad it’s over
What’s sad about this story is that we watched an already oppressed people become even worse because of crack. Franklin became the very man he hated in the end and what’s sad is that he really only cared about himself the whole time. Him having a happy ending would’ve have been just as much as an injustice to his community as the government getting away with importing that shit in the first place. I feel sorry for his family because they really wanted to break free from oppression and sadly fell victim to system like so many.
People that say Franklin only cared about himself the whole time clearly weren’t paying attention. Yes over time the greed made it seem like that but you neglect to realize the only reason why he did all this was for the people around him. And when he lost them he lost all hope
@@krillin1081 you don’t do the kind of things this man did and not be selfish. No way you look at crackheads that you created and not be selfish. Be clear nothing this man did was for a righteous cause. I payed attention and all I saw was a man that only cared about himself.
I'm glad they didn't turn Franklin into a crackhead at the end tho imagine seeing him how Wanda was like maximum monster crackhead or some shi he'd probably try stab Leon but it would also make sense since that was his famous product but then again turning him into a drunk like his father made sense since that's the thing that was on his mind for the full first season him not wanting to be a sick dead beat like his father
I've met dope heads like that telling stories about how they ran shit and we laughed and made fun of them ran em off never thinking twice about it even had uncle's on the same shit, guessing you don't cross paths with people like that to make you stop and think twice.
they couldn’t have picked a better song for the ending,when it played it touched my heart,genuinely made it beat different when the beat came in,was absolutely speechless,how sad things ended on the same road it all begun.
Fr the writing the acting the cinematography this show hit all fronts seriously hard idk if awards passed but this deserves a nomination for every single award
Not really. Anton recover for Franklin mom. For who franklin will recover? For himself? Nah. Franklin mom always love anton, but his ex-wife hate franklin and his son probably too because his mom tell his father was a monster or something like that. His mom is in the prison if she not death now lol. And Leon was failed too bring back Franklin. Aunt hate him too 😅. Franklin has nobody who care for him in the end for that recovery
@@nicolasmorales5955we truly don’t know tho who knows what will his kid do in the future he might want meet his dad or not depending how he’s raised and taught or who he hangs out with probably but at the same he could never see his father at all he could go to A.A meetings or meet a new friend while living on the streets to get along with and support him but you are spitting on what you said I’m just giving possibilities if he can recover but his chances are very low to recover and get straitened out
He got nothing to recover for he has himself and his booze he's like 25 and looks about 40 he'll drink himself to death soon in around 5 to 10 years time we could bascially say well if snowfall continued from the last episode Saint prolly woulda been dead
I think this is a happy ending, sure he lost his money and everything he had but like he said he's free most people either die or never get out of the drug game but he made it out alive and he isn't under anyone's thumb like he was almost the whole show
@@montyi8Yea. I’d be hella suicidal if I lost everything. Even a normal life wouldn’t fix it. Cuz imagine living a normal life working for 5 bucks an hour. Shit would be depressing. Knowing that you were rich and could have made it. And now you’ve downgraded to this. There’s nothing else for Franklin. His life is over. He made it to the top and fell down to rock bottom. All cuz of the people he trusted.
You guys don’t get it. It’s not just him losing the money. His uncle is dead. His dad is dead. His mother is in jail for the rest of her life. Auntie is on the run for the rest of her life. he has a son and he doesn’t know where the child is, the only thing he has left is Leon his alcohol bottle and the Demon he’s fighting in his head 24 seven would you be surprised if he unalived himself after this scene. In my opinion, what he should’ve done is probably with a large majority of the money and buried it like Pablo Escobar just before cutting ties with Teddy. As smart as Franklin is, I was surprised that he didn’t think that through. He didn’t have a strong escape plan.
@@Az-gf6lt no he isn’t teddy was saying that in hopes his mom would let him free, remember right before she shoots him he tells her he was just saying that and he shot him twice
