The two are one of the biggest heaviest tractors in game, These are Pacific Siblings i.e Pacific P16 and Pacific P12 One is heavy and other is even heavier and today we'll see which is best among them. #Snowrunner
The P16 has special tires. It might not look like it from the threads (looks standard) but it has unique stats, basically it has the best mud traction rating in the game (better even than the mudtires). If the truck had AWD it would have been unstoppable.
You can enable AWD on the P16 by editing the game files. I did it, and it really helps with turning sharp corners because the front driven wheels pull the front of the truck around. Otherwise diff lock with huge rear tyres makes sharp turns difficult.
Yuvraj Singh if you don't sound the horn at every destination upon arrival, you're just plain doing it wrong! We need the p16 horn as a purchasable item!
the P-12 they use in this game is a P-12 Roughneck designed for Saudi Oil fields.That is why it is so long.When we built them at Pacific it would have had huge sand rib tires (6)...It is a 6x6.Truck would be wider for the bigger rad..These guys did a good job on this...Cory..Pacific Truck 1977-87
These are the kind of videos that RU-vid needs more of (specifically gaming videos). No filler commentary, excessively long intros, or useless info. Just straight to the point interesting information.
Front the front, the P12 looks as though it has a bigger, more wider hood then the P16. So I assumed it was the Wider Truck. Until the comparison began. And noticed how long and thin the chassis of the 12 was. In comparison to how massive, wider and bulkier, yet shorter the chassis of the P16 was. I absolutely LOVE the horn of the 16. It screams MOOOOOOOOVE!!!
The P16 has the best tires in the game in mud. It has a grip coefficient of 3.5. The best mudtires have 3.2 , while decent ones have 2.4. It just needs a trailer hooked up on the fifth wheel so that it has weight on the rear axles. Now imagine what this truck would have been if it had AWD. Such a beast. I used it on every single special/heavy trailer.
Those things were built to haul the massive logs that still existed back then, pretty much all the massive trees are gone now, so the Pacifics are often used for super-heavy loads, like the ones that Africa ordered for hauling power transformers.
The P16 did very well for me, especially hauling those special oil rig trailers and drill assemblies. Only part where it lets you down are steep icy roads due to the lacking chains.
P12 is one of the most aggressive looking and heavy duty trucks in the game. I can’t use it though bc it lacks power to pull any kind of heavy load. Even in low-low the tires stop spinning when she’s had to much.
I agree with this .... i try to climb with long logs and it's very hard and it hurts, also the wheels not moving in some conditions because low of power i think ... it's stats doesnt help there ...
Surprising result! I thought the P12 would smoke the P16 as they are very similar aside from AWD on the P12! P16 looks (and sounds) way more badass to me though :-)
i can't sell my P16 cause he have a special place in my heart , dont know why but i like it , same with the cat 6x6 , dery long horn and the little cat truck who can do every things
US: "Go big or go home!" Canada: "Ok. Go home." Such hulking beastly machines; and that incredible Get-the-F%ck-Outta-My-Way horn. It fills my heart with such Canadian pride. ~manly tears of joy~
Thank you, I recently bought Snowrunner and I am addicted. Your videos are incredibly informative and helpful to any new player. Keep up the great work. Peace all...til the winches comes out.
I’ve used the P16 to pull every heavy trailer in the game. It’s never gotten stuck, or has let me down. I’ve seen some maxed out Russian trucks struggle pull the massive trailers in Alaska and Michigan, but my P16 never even blinked. It’s insane
Wyatt Jessup I’m never gonna loose that P16. It has to be the best hauling truck in the game. Without fail, it gets the job done. Always. It’s great stock, but upgraded? My god that thing is unstoppable
I used heavily modified White-Western Star to pull that rig through the river. It got stuck. Than I used pre-order Freightliner to pull the rig. I couldn't move the rig. Than I spent several hours to get the P16. That thing... It didn't even notice the river
Have had both trucks and not used them, I used both of the KOLOB's for the heavy rigs, 8wheel drive, 4wheel steering, low range box, and good route planning can do the job just as easy as the big Pacifics. P16 horn is awsome though 🤔😁
P16 is by default the winner, because the horn is sufficient to compensate for any shortcomings? No AWD? You can just honk and the hill will collapse in front of you No chains? Use the force of the horn to push you up the icy hill
I used p12 with dual chained tyres. Its a beast! And i have azov with military camouflage for mud roads! These two are the best couple for the standard version of game!
Hey man Excellent videos as usual. Please keep this up it really helps. And also do a comparison video on the VORON trucks. VORON- AE vs Voron D vs Voron Grad
Before that game i had no idea about Pacific Truck company. I was sure it was a generic name for the game. Finally Pacific exist. It a Canadian Truck company from Vancouver and they built heavy truck to carry wood.
IRL my dad used to drive pacific P12's and P16's What I heard from him about those trucks, is that they were some of the best you could get in terms of reliability and logging capabilities.
IMO the constant DL on P16 is a dealbreaker for its advantage. Sure the P12 have more options and AWD (and I can think of a number of instances where AWD on P16 would've helped immensely) but the engine is so strong -IMO- you can often just plough through with auto on and still overcome the obstacle pretty fast. If you're having trouble making your way through mud, just point the front tires straight forward and it'll pick up speed like nothing (mostly). Really sucks you can't have other tires though. Quite decent in snow but chained would've been nice. Its weight also makes it excellent for towing/rescuing. Plus that engine roars like a MF and the horn is thundering through the valley you're visiting. I suspect that with AWD it would be so good it could be considered cheating almost.
Would definitely say p16 ive seen it do ridiculous things i never acknowledged it because of the no awd thing but it seems that the p16 is an overall better choice for every place that dosent have ice
both looked evenly balanced going back and forth with winning in each test the strengths of one being the weakness of the other and vice versa and the vote gap is much more evenly split
The biggest job I've done with the P-16 is hauling 8-slot trailers of metal from one garage to the other in the Yukon. At that point, out of everything I had the P-16 (with the tail weighed down by a trailer) was the best thing I had for slow hauling in deep water.
In my hard mode game, I used the P16 for ALL the long log deliveries in Alaska, despite the slippery roads, just keep one tire on the edge in the snow when going uphill on the icy spots. Also used it bringing the big trailer out of that boggy road in North Port (later discovered you can go wide through the snow and avoid that part).
I use the 16 for any heavy trailer, it's a beast under load. And since heavy trailers generally don't fit in some areas it has never got stuck. I even pulled one my brother got stuck in rocks, walked it right out. The 12 I put a fuel tank on and tow a service trailer, best heavy service vehicle around, stuck? It'll winch, and enough supplies to fix the whole map
Double rear tires seem better over all. For two primary reasons that I've been able to notice. One, the wider track is more stable and makes the truck less likely to tip. Two, there is just more tire on the ground. Meaning that you sink less in the mud, and possibly even have more traction over all because there's just more tire in contact with the ground... The double off-road tires do better in mud, than the mud tires... The only trade-off to using the dual rear tires is that the truck becomes a little harder to maneuver. Because it's wider. But this is well worth it for the benefits.
@Allosaurus 67 The P16 has more grip, is more stable, more solid... It’s only slower and less usefull... But to tow those gigantic trailers? You can’t wish for something better than a P16
The P16 was a favorite of mine to mess around in the files to give it things like AWD and a much tighter turning wheel.(From I think 23-27 degrees to 60-70 if I remember right) and messing about with the tires so they behave as if they have chains. Pretty much makes it a do it all truck so long as I can physically fit in a area. That said the P12 is my goto heavy crane rig though while driving it does tip rather easily.
I wish the p12 had an option for dual mudtires like its chained tires and stuff just for the looks at least, also I thought the p12 only had one bumper which is the stock one.
The p16 is my favourite truck I don`t use, because despite how beastly it is in mud, it`s underpowered (I don`t think I could put the best engine when I tried to pull a construction rig uphill, so it kept bogging down), and it it seems to like getting stuck on rocks under or even in between the axles... As a result I ended up delivering the construction rigs in michigan with the white western star instead. With that said I might give it another shot now that I`m a much higher rank. Also I hope that when the wisconson or canada dlc drops, they add heavy logging trailers for it, because I want to recreate the photos and videos online where a p16 is packed way past the hight and width of the body with heaps of massive and super long logs, and pulling a trailer just as packed, along dirt roads... Also, that horn gives me the chills, and it sounds like a friggin freight ship
What I love about the p16 is that it’s got power. Thing is a fighter it will keep going even with a heavy load on it. They are both my favorite trucks. I’m glad to see they add really rare trucks in the game. The Pacific truck company went out of business and the trucks aren’t made anymore. These pacific trucks are off highway log trucks. Think they made on highway trucks not sure on that. Their trucks came with V12 or V8 Diesel engines. The old 12v71 screaming Detroit Diesel, Cummins engines, or Caterpillar. The Pacific P16 In Snowrunner sounds like it’s got a 3408 V8 CAT engine. That’s a good sounding engine. The P12 sounds like a V12 or a V16 CAT. Just the engine sound. I know in the game they got 12 cylinder engines. Just the sound they have
Chained tires only give an advantage on ice, offroad and mud tires are better on snow, dirt, and mud. Tested this myself with 2 ANKs in Alaska, just take the ice slowly or get something to tow you along. Its worth it.
I wanted to use P12 as fuel/repair station with fuel addon and repair trailer.....with top engine and mud tires it still stuck and struggled everywhere. Still it has much more options than P16. P16 has good pull, BUT on even terrain, the moment there is some hole/dip/etc. the lack of AWD hurts a LOT. And the turning radius of the ship not helping.
I love both the p12 and p16 even tho some may bash the p16 but it gets the job done if used right but my favorite truck of all is the ank mk38 and was wondering if you could do a comparison on it at some point
I feel like if the p16 had awd instead of diff lock it would have been a great truck, but surprisingly it’s very good at climbing rocks that are in water
I think diff lock works better for it, honestly. As it sits, it sends power to all four rear tires equally, regardless of traction. AWD with no diff lock means you can end up with only 3 tires getting traction, one per axle. Plus, when a truck is pulling something, the rear wheels have the most traction, so you want to be able to send all your power back there without losing some to wheelspin. That’s my view on it anyway, I’m hardly an expert.
In other words, get both. The P12 is great for repairs because of its huge manteinance frame, and the narrow turning circle really helps it navigate narrow roads you need to take to rescue vehicles. Plus it’s great in Alaska. P16 is free, it’s a beast and it has a freaking freighter ship horn, I mean, what’s not to love? Too bad it’s kinda useless in Russia due to how damn narrow the roads are.
Cool vid, have you noticed on some trucks the front wheels kind of bend and flex at odd angles when going over rough ground? like there not connected to the front suspension properly...drives me nuts
P16 has the best tires in the game for mud. It is good only for mud ferry or delivery of heavy cargo in deep mud. It does it better than any other truck. P12 has other role, most useful as delivery and rescue with the big crane
I used both of these beasts for my heavy rig hauling. I found the P12 to be the better heavy truck. The P16 was slow and could not turn very well. I even used the P12 over the Derry 4520!
I've used the paystar for the first few Michigan heavy trailers, then the white western star from there on. I tried the p12 on the last big trailer of the Michigan maps and even the p16 but they are just so slow and inefficient. Plus having a vehicle with raised suspension makes a huge difference. Just started Alaska maps but the bm 12 doesn't compared to my nearly maxed out western star trucks. I've got a fleet of them, low saddle, heavy crane, flat bed, and I was using the loadstar 1700 as a scout but lack of raised suspension hurts it bad in Alaska
I love your videos but something i would like is that you improve your writing skills. ITS not to be rude dude. I hope you dont take IT personely but you make awesome content and wish you god luck with your carrer
There is a trick to the P16. It's tires are called OHD I, but they have nothing to do with the OHD I tires on the other trucks. It's tires have their own file, and they are better in mud than literally every single mudtire, with a traction of 3.5. The only tires better in mud are the also unique TUZ Tatarin tires, with a mud traction of 8.0. This is what makes this truck beastly. I guess it was the only way to make it a useable truck, otherwise it wouldn't be any better than the highway trucks.
P16 is by far the best made truck of the whole game, it's clear the devs loved it too. P12 is just gutless, despite having theoretically the same engine
P16 is a truck that proves you dont always need awd as well as the P16 i noticed when im playing rolls over less as well as it has the 3rd best tire in the game. Long story short i love the P16
I have completed every principal mission on every stage and i can say that in my experience the P12 with OHD II wheels (not mud ones) is unbeatable... the OHD give them enough grip not to spin everywhere and if you somehow encounter somewhere where it lacks strenght, simply disable AWD and then all the torque goes to rear wheels and give them the strenght it needs... Also on the video you show how p16 cannot finish 2 of those test, and cannot have any addon so alone is lost... P12 is better , try it on OHD and activating/ deactivating AWD and you will see. Nice video! Thanks
