Snowrunner Top 10 Obsolete Trucks 

Not gonna lie, kinda hurts seeing P16 be borderline obsolete. Twas the first heavy truck I found that FELT like a proper heavy truck that could just eat up mud (and fuel) and keep on going with a heavy trailer. Sure it can ONLY take trailers and has no real addons to speak of, but the fact that it could still tow other trucks through mud like that one special trailer mission in Alaska on the first map with the long stretch of super mud, just keeps a special place in my heart.

The fact that I still routinely use all of these trucks except the Fleetstar (I also don't have the Renegade) shows that these evaluations largely depend on how people approach SnowRunner and what kind of playstyle they have. At this point in the game one can basically do everything with the two big ZikZs, the Kenworth 963, and use only the Tatarin and Yar 87 as scouts. And die of boredom in the process. ;-) But I always appreciate your videos and point of view, because they're always thought-provoking. Keep up the good work! //Rick

You can say the P16 is obsolete but sometimes a really big truck is all you need to have fun. Love how it looks and its "I can pull it" aura

I still use the fleetstar and have throughout the base game and all 10 phases. Imo the truck is still decent

I use the M916 all the time. Because of it's short wheelbase, it is a great truck to tow behind. So I use it like a self-propelled trailer.

P12's obselesence is why I have no qualms using the P12 ORCA II mod. Sure, if you max it out it is basically OP but if you configure it well, it's just a vanilla P12 with some realistic upgrades to bring it even with other trucks in game. In my opinion, this is the best part of modding - experimenting to find mods that fit well in the game without being OP

The freightliner at #6 is actually quite good, youre just using it wrong. Put chained tires on it, and use it as a high saddle truck. It has some of the highest torque in the game, and it's short wheelbase is good for maneuverability with the longer trailers. I see people use long wheel base trucks with long trailers, and they get stuck on turns all the time. Everyone gets that wrong, it's hilarious to watch.

Sometimes it is about the voyage and not the destination. With the released map DLCs of the Year 3-Pass I've found myself using all of the western-type trucks and scouts and having fun with them. These maps contain large areas where you can still use vehicles without superior abilities. So I can't agree with you on the "obsolete" part. Just hours ago I've used the ANK 38 with trailer to transport some supplies and metal beams to an oil pump building and the small amount of fuel carried in its tank made the trip even more interesting to me.

My biggest issue with the P12 was that it felt very underpowered. I ran non-dual construction tires on it and even in low the truck would just freeze up in amything above moderate mud. It didn't offer enough power to keep going, and I often found myself winching it out of relatively easy conditions. The P16, on the other hand, was a great truck. Sure it was only RWD, but it had full time Diff Lock and pulled like a locomotive. The problem with that, however, is the lack of options (if I remember correctly, there are no chained or studded tires for winter regions, and it can only be used as a tractor), and the horrendous turning radius. Because Diff lock is always on (meaning both the left and right wheels turn at the same speed) and not having power to the front wheels to help redirect the nose of the truck, even road bends were like 11-point turns. Eventually, it just got to the point where I gave up and mained the Kodiak for cargo, the GMC MH9500 for low-saddle trailers or large (and somewhat accessible) orders (as I paired it with a 5-slot sideboard trailer and minicrane), and the 745C for logs. I still have the P16 and use it for longer logs, I just have to perform winch-assisted turns and try my best to stay near winch points. All of this because I'm too stubborn to use anything else 😅

2:46 I find that the frieghtliner is best used as vehicle transport. It has excellent pulling power, and having the tapered heavy transport trailer hitch helps with maneuverability. 4:48 I still use the P12 as a medium log hauler simply because I have no dlcs. It still works pretty well as long as you aren't climbing a mountain, and its still awesome to drive lol 7:04 The P16 may have been outted by the boar and kenworth, but it still holds a place in my and many others hearts as the truck with the best horn

The Pacific P 12 was my favorite truck. I think it just needs bigger mud tires and a three slot flatbed

I still like the P16, i use it for almost all tasks where you need a high saddle, or transport long logs.

The Fleetstar kind of sucks until you put good offroad tires on it- then it's actually kind of good. I mean it's not going to plow through mud and never get stuck, but as long as you drive sensibly, it can tackle most situations. It's meant to be your most capable truck at the start of the game, and it does that job very well.

Lots of these vehicles are starting trucks, they doesn't have to be the best ones. And I think some variety is really good, not all vehicles have to be super offroaders.

In defense of the P12, it's a good Truck with a still decent addon selection for a heavy class, it comes with the base game, and is unlocked at a reasonably low level. I bought mine when I was starting out and still use it regularly

I enjoy using the CK 1500 because it feels nostalgic now to scout around in.

Thanks for your videos, they are really fun to watch, keep it up! I wish the text went through some automatic grammar / spelling-checking software like grammarly or even deepl. A couple of unfortunate typos do not match the otherwise superbly executed video (footage, editing and the rest)! Cheers!

Agree on these! Turning to mods makes some of these better, thought....the modded Hulkster Fleetstar is pretty solid, if not a bit "tippy", and the Pacific Orca mod is probably my go-to truck now.

2:05 totally agree! The Tatra 805 is so much fun due to its high power an light weight, but it's instable. It needs a auto-winch so it can mess with Actaeon and F750 as heavy scout/light supporter In my eyes the utility addons for newer trucks make them superior over older, basically good trucks. I e.g. P512, ANK or AZOV 5519 would have fuel addon on their roof, they would be waay better in comparism to the new ones!

After driving it for a bit, I've actually found the Sprinter works quite well as a sort of 'Mega Scout'. It might not have an autonomous winch or a bunch of supplies, but set up properly it'll go quite a ways on its regular tank, and it's stable enough that you really have to do sonething stupid to roll it. The Fleetstar is easily my "Jack of all trades, Master of none" truck. If I'm ever uncertain about what I'm going to need, its the truck I'll jump to. There are better trucks, yes, but the Fleetstar is a truck that will always get me there, if a tad slowly. I recently gave the Freightliner another try, and honestly, it really surprised me. Excellent power, and thanks to its short length, its excellent for backing up trailers. Its a one trick pony, but as long as you keep its tanks filled, its a great heavy hauler that can do almost everything the bigger trucks can do. The Tatra could very much use an autonomous winch, but using the base engine actually really improves its driveability. Its just too fast with its top engine imo.

Buffed the P12 myself, added the Kenny's Wanderer engine and log lift to it, now it's basically the perfect fusion of both.

0:36 fun fact the letters "ЖУК" on the license plate stands for "Beetle" or "Bug" and letter Ж with other Russian letters that do not have similar outlines in the Latin alphabet are not used in Russian license plates (except for diplomatic ones)

I agree about the Jeep, Freightliner M916A1 and Pacific. But WS 49X? I like it a lot. Bigger wheels than Wolf Pack trucks have, difflock, the only vehicle in the game with double wheels on the lift axle. Plus it's rather pretty (I just wish they add a newer 49X after a facelift).

I love yours videos Bro, greetings from Chile! 🎉

I remember getting the P16. I kept it all the way along with the oder heavyweights. It's a behemoth and the horn is also a beloved point. The sheer size and width attracted me to it. Even in times of trail struggles. Sad seeing it being obsolete now..

Don loses its stability altogether on max suspension upgrade, personally I loved using it, the little man carried me through scouting so many maps by squeezing through trees and carving its own trails, it may not be the best, but it certainly desserves a spot in everyones hearts

I like the Fleetstar the way it is. Interesting video.

Man You using the Navistar as reference for gameplay after this long really shows how awesome of a truck it is, its probably in my top 10 if im honest.

great video!

I m 0:04 in video and i give u instant like just because no BS straight to the point!Tnx nice video.

Recently I have started tweaking a lot of truck for my own pleasure and focusing on matching specs with the real thing. I found sales brochures for Pacific trucks saying that they do offer 6x6 configurations for their line up not to mention *very* prominently state that they will customize the trucks to order so long as their Engineering department approved it. So when you add AWD and a low saddle to the P16 it's completely legit. I do feel that some trucks like the Freightliner are actually bugged in terms of trailer fitment and that they are in need of patching. Funny thing about a lot of obsolete trucks is that by the time I unlock the newer better trucks I still tend to keep driving the old ones because I can't be bothered to stop long enough to make the switch and refit the new truck at great cost as well.

#1 The Zikz 605R, the Kingslayer Zikz 612H took his place. Same or better (like Mudtires, higher Saddle etc.) but with more Addons. No need to use the 605R nowsdays.

I realy love my P12 and P16. I wish they had a little more Powerful Engine (especially the P12) I think when P16 get able to install AWD he would be close to OP.

Id like to add 1 huge pet peeve about the CK1500....how come even years later Saber Interactive has not noticed or changed the interior of the truck? No matter what paint you pick the interior is always deep blue... feels like such an oversight

Enjoyed this. Never noticed the freightliner having problems with the sideboard trailer. Azov sprinter race truck 🚚 waste of time.

My biggest qualm with this game recently has been that it seems like most the American or Canadian trucks are weaker than a glass of water while all the Russia trucks are 8x8’s with two 24 valve engines, just something ridiculous. That paired with the fact that every map since the first three original maps and the kola map have all been 3 foot deep mud swamps that every vanilla truck struggles with, hell I’ve even had some mod trucks struggles in areas, it just seems like they add those areas to make it take more time convincing you that there is way more DLC than there actually is.

I don't agree that Fleetstar is obsolete. It's a legend, I still use it for car transportation from time to time. And used before for short logging. The devs remembered about it and gave the Fleetstar a mammoth skin paint. The legend lives!

One truck in and I've already been personally wronged. I am still using the Fleetstar to this day, because it's great, and it can do anything I ask of it. I agree with the Chevy, but I still use 2 of them because I don't use RU vehicles in NA, so the Chevy is the best NA at what it does. Agree on the ANK. It's fun to drive, but I use other trucks way more. Don is one of the few scouts I've simply never used or owned (mainly because there's no mission giving you a free one). I use other scouts and don't feel the need to get a Don. Never used the Freightliner, but yes. Yeah, I get why the Tatra 805 is on here. I like the unique service addon, and I use it as a mobile repair truck, but it's not my favorite. No fun to drive. Haven't been to Tennessee yet, but I've heard the Sprinter is straight up useless. I have no problem with the P12, and I use it all the time, usually as a heavy crane rig. However, I haven't gotten the new Kenworth yet, so that may very well be the successor. Don't be hatin' on my Renegade. Among NA scouts, it's absolutely the best at worming its way ANYWHERE. You ACTUALLY put the 49X on here? It has power out the ass, can take almost any addon, AND it has stellar fuel economy regardless. That thing is better than most other NA 6x6s. I can kinda agree with the P16, but it's a special case. It's only designed to do one thing, and it does that in the game very well, better than a lot of trucks. It just sucks at literally everything else.

We don't use Fleetstar to perform better, we use Fleetstar because it's a tradition

Honestly, never tought of the 805 as obsolete. I use it quite commonly, and the small size of the truck makes it a good scout especially if you want to naivgate straight through a heavily forested area. And if you like a truck just beacause, mods are good solution , wether you want a more realistic depiction of your favourite truck stats-wise or just to make it blatantly OP. Long story short - Tatra 805 -> a good lil trucc. Still needs a scout winch though…

This addon is gonna be awesome, i liked it from the first time i saw it on the burlag!

The only good thing about the P12 (during the Michigan and Alaska maps) is having the maintenance add on. With that, it carries more stuff. As opposed to having a heavy duty crane on it, it's VERY unstable.

These obsolete trucks are still good in the Belozersk Glades region, where it has the most tarmac roads in every region in SnowRunner.

I 100% disagree with the 49X being on this list, from my experience both variants of it are excellent trucks and aren‘t in need of any changes. They have a nice fuel tank and are really decent at offroading, i even used both 49Xs in Amur extensively and they did an excellent job, as of now it‘s one of the few trucks that i took to every map

Fleetstar is a great all around truck through the entirety or the game except Amur. I use it consistently. Totally agree on Silverado, you can sell it and buy the IH Pickup and its a straight upgrade in every single way. Ank is easily one of my favorite trucks, put a fuel trailer on it, amd its tires, and you have an unstoppable truck that can haul anything. Don71 I totally agree, bought it once at launch and have never used it again. The Freightliner is another truck I use all the time, it's an awesome truck for big trailers and if I don't need the P16, it's my go to for mission trailers. Tatra 805, I agree, looks cool, outclassed by literally all the other small medium trucks. Sprinter, I agree, it's pretty useless, but I don't think it should be included simply because it's not ever meant to be used for work. P12, I agree to a point, the Kenny is a straight upgrade bit the P12 is am excellent truck for hauling 2 sets of medium logs anywhere. CJ7 Agreed, looks great, falls below almost everything in utility. 49X Hard disagree, might br my most used truck, will haul anything, and only annoyance is tag axle, but it's fast, tough, strong and looks great. P16 How dare you slander the greatest piece of machinery in the game. Bonus: No folding log carts is a sin.

I love how you test the trucks, that have no specific mudtires with offroad tires, instead of chained tires, which have mud capabilities XD

I mostly agree, but I quite like the military ANK. Yes it’s thirsty but sometimes a mudtire-equipped compact bed truck is what you need. And I only play region-correct trucks so little other options in North America.

Tayga is my main offroad, but I use ANK38 for challenge, speed and when fuel isn't an issue. I like its unique tires (not mudtires)

I still use Fleetstar to operate a generator. Put a fuel tank on it, attach a generator and winch it to the cargo creation zone.

The P12 and P16 are from from obsolete when XML balanced in the way that DLC trucks are. It's a shame the developers hate them.

From all mentioned I personaly would not agree on Tatra. I use it extensively as refueling truck and time to time as scout alongside Crocodile and Bandit. Other than that - I can agree with your list.

I agree with all except the fleetstar, that truck will always hold a place in my fleet.

Damn you that fleetstar is the only one that gets me to complete missions, I’m so used to the thing I get everything else stuck besides it

I hope they give the 916a1 a do over. I drove that for years. It doesn’t have that wench system in the back. It only has a tool storage in the back and it’s not really big. The fuel tank can hold 100 gallons.

the P16 foldable log trailer would be an epic addition

I still use fleetstar as fuel/repair point supplier. Van body + fuel trailer - to support working truck.

I think, there should be Tuz 108 'Warthog' and Dan 96320.

The Kenworth is what the P12 should've been, 71" tires look great on it and it could really use all the addons and more power.

The P-16 is only bad because nobody uses it correctly, meant for hauling wood on dirt roads, no problem!

I've played over 1400 hrs and every available DLC you can buy. I will say there are a bunch of obsolete trucks. But for this I'll stick my neck. The fleetstar is a beast when setup right that little starter truck still surprises me. Once you learn high and low gear this truck equiped with highway transmission. Not bad. The Tayga trucks are some my top trucks far from obsolete The rest I can agree are obsolete now

Ngl i love the p16 too even if there are better trucks to use, its just like a feeling of "it good but not unstopable" and its make the gameplay more fun to play

Trucks are never ever obsolete so long as they can carry a crane, fuel or repairs in the forms of bed attachments or trailers. I always set up mobile repair stations along the paved roads with vehicles like these especially for maps with no garages or maps that have garages very far from the tunnels

I heartily disagree on the Fleetstar. It's the little truck that still can and always will surprise you.

I use P16 because im a die hard fan. It doesnt even matter if it sucks. I just like it so I use it.

UOD wheels are inferior to mud tires but they have way better rims options so i prefere these for more estetic reason. they could give uod wheels + size option to give them some sort of adventage over mud wheels or at least give mud wheels similar rim options.

If you need chains and want to haul and tow med logs at the same time, the P12 works great.

In my first playthrough i maimed the p12 and p16 but after playing hard mode and getting the ken worth off the bat it makes the p12 feel pretty weak

Have you made a video about most overpowered mod trucks that are based on vanilla + dlc trucks?

Can you revisit this list with the JAT tyres and say what you think about how it changes.

I don't mind the Azov Sprinter not having the 4,500 Nm torque of its real life counterpart, the KamAZ 43509. Or its 165+ km/h top speed (limited during races to 130 km/h). Or the active suspension. Even the lack of trailers can be justified, with a stretch. But what did the Sprinter do to the game makers for its two spare tyres to be taken away?! Ridiculous.

What’s is the military truck in the thumbnail, and what addons does it have?

Tbh the Sprinter back addon should really have more utility, it even has cutouts for two soare tires but no spares??

I use the white wester in almost every mission. To me it's one of the best trucks but that's my opinion.

Did they nerf UODs? I always tought UOD2s and OHD1s were on par with each other/same values? or am I mistaken

Trucks that didn't become obsolete with Kenny would be a shorter list. ;)

M916 is by far my favorite truck. I use it as a scout cause all the scouts are usless and as a towtruck.

I still love the old P16. But mostly because I#m a hardcore player and thusly extremly frugil, wich means that I generally don't take trucks that aren't free.So I'm dragging it along for the good old logging hauls.

Very accurate observations and interesting ideas. Are you sure the tire size on the scouts is correct and it's not a mod? It seems to me that Scout 800 (more unstable than CK1500), C70 or ZiKZ 5368 are also not useful.

It's unfortunate that my favorite truck, the Fleetstar, becomes obsolete directly after the map it was introduced om

fleetstar is still the goat, who doesnt use it

If just for pure how good its look like DON 71 for me is still one of my fav. Need buff for sure

I love my old American trucks and try to get em to work no matter how bad they might be. I used the Flertstar in British Columbia a lot and it did fine, but the White Western is just a better truck altogether. I wish some of them would get buffed maybe. I feel however the small Tatra and the TUZ Warthog need a lot of help. I never use them despite me liking their looks. For difficult rescue missions I always take the Actaeon, as it's offline Winch, good tires and decent power makes it almost unstoppable even when flipped. The M916A1 tho needs help badly I can somewhat live with the trailer catching the Winch tower but I find myself running out of fuel first. Its quite thirsty for it's small tank like the P512. The P12 tho I liked a lot. I didn't really compare it to the Kenny but it's quite similar, with tf he exception that the P12 can have chains and NGL, in phase 1 it was a huge help. How bout a comparison between them to settle it? I wanna know which is better. But in the end, no matter what, I think we can agree that the Sprinter is the most useless truck. If at least it would have a radar inside or something and trailers it would be considerable but like this I sold it for bucks

It's more important to release new additions and new games than to improve what is already there. They will never fix it.

man, most of these vehicles were hyped when snowrunner was announced. its a shame they get put out by better vehicles, but I still prefer to use base game vehicles because its more of a challenge.

Appropriate throttle means a lot off road. My CK 1500 has been everywhere, just stay away from the thin ice

I have mods that improve the P16 and the Freightliner and they're some of the best trucks I have. The Freightliner is ultra powerful and I use it for 5th Wheel attachments exclusively. The P16 is given double tires on the whole thing and can use AWD on it. These are only mods though. I imagine these aren't very good trucks for their respective classes.

I still use the fleetsstar, it’s a good logging truck if you ask me

I use "Real Life mod" which adds a bunch of stuff to the game and the vehicles, especially many different types of tires and upgrades, so old vehicles would still be useful now

Id toss the Freightliner 114SD on there. Unlocked really late at rank 20 and its just a really average truck. No high end engine or tires, no special add ons. It'll do the job but theres always something better

I modded most trucks in this game simply to give them better feeling of weight, so they don't have any wheelspin on freaking asphalt...

Fleetstar is still a good truck for easier regions. You didn't show it perform in mud with offroad tires and of course it's going to tip over on huge cliffs and in tight river beds. Almost all scouts are obsolete, anyway. Besides, the Sentinel is a lot easier to tip over than the CK1500. Anks are fine, although they are only for short trips. UOD II and OHD I have the same stats. Check Maprunner. P12 is also good enough and it fits logging nicely. Nerf Kenworth?! Are you serious? 49X is just like the Fleetstar. Use it in less difficult maps and it'll do just fine.

I just love both Pacifics, so old school

The only trucks that can do it all are basically the 2 ZiSK’s. I wish we had licensed trucks that could do what they can. That's why we got mods

Thing about the p12 compared to the kenworth is that the p12 could still be used as a heavy support truck with either a fuel tanker or the maintenance addon

What OHD tires did you use for the NF-1430?

Not all vehicles are equal. Some are simply cheap and that's it. I hope the devs don't start "improving" the capabilities which would be a disaster.

Even thou there are better trucks , l still use p16 for much of my transport , logs, 5 slot trailers , 8 slot trailers , special trailers you name it .There is something special about climbing a hill and shifting furiously so you dont lose momentum.

I use the Azov Sprinter for exploration. Its definitely not the best in its class but still overall good. But to be fair, I only use the Sprinter for exploration I know it can handle. Other trucks are clearly better

I agree with all of these but the Fleetstar weirdly. Its not great at anything, but its a great 'fleet support' truck. I use it, and the Alligator, as the backbone of my logistics for fuel and repairs.

The real Tayga has 200 kg HEAVY Tayga tires, the ANK has 100 kg ones as found on the Actaeon. Too many trucks have a messed up weight distribution and wheel lottery. Especially the US Heavy trucks are mostly junk. And with respect to P16: The P16 with 15 tons cabin weight at 25 tons total - thats a joke. The "real" P16 has 12 tons maximum front axle load. As weight on the unpowered front causes only drag and the (reamining) weight on the powered rear causes the "push".