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IMO, we can recognize that 'we are all Black' or that 'we are all African’ and still recognize and discuss the different experiences that we are having based on things like skin color, ethnicity, nationality, and culture.
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@geekaleek
@geekaleek 7 лет назад
I'm black and british and live in america and i actually agree with Samuel L Jackson. The problem is black people all over the world feel like they can relate to the black american experience (thru movies and music etc) and we think we know what its like. But its very different. And people dont seem to get it, till they actually live in america and experience it.
@brittany3903
@brittany3903 7 лет назад
Adriano I feel the same way. I am Nigerian, grew up in the UK, now live in America. Black Americans have done a remarkable job of creating a culture and identity amongst themselves in such a short amount of time. While I identify as black and feel a strong connection and affinity for black Americans I recognize that it is not my culture and there are certain things I cannot fully understand because I never grew up immersed in it. It would be ignorant for me to pretend I always understand certain things or cry because I feel excluded. I didn't know what baby hairs were until I was 17. Because black American culture is highly popularized worldwide in movies and music everyone thinks they know what it is and that they have a right to black American culture. Yet, most Africans are upset when Africans are portrayed by black Americans in Hollywood and a lot of them dislike being associated with black Americans entirely.
@geekaleek
@geekaleek 7 лет назад
Imagine if an american was the lead in *Bullet Boy*, or if an americans were the lead roles in *Kidulthood*? Our experience with being black and british are so different from the American black experience. There are nuances that they would not get looking at it from the outside. Me and my cousin used to laugh so much when americas play west indians in movies they are so bad at it. We would even say why dont they let americans with west indian parents do it, they'll do a much better job at. Sure you can relate to a story per say. But there are some things you wont get looking at it from the outside culturally. We're talking about *Culture* here too. Not just reliability
@birdiewolf3497
@birdiewolf3497 7 лет назад
Same, I have yet to really see an American pull off an African role well. It is always so embarrassing, but maybe the larger issue at hand is there isn't a broader representation of outside world here in America. I say this because English people, Australian people can often pick up on American accents, then they do an interview and everyone's like "what?" These people often cite growing up watching American shows, which is why they are able to adapt so quickly. While most of the time (a phenomenon found in White Americans as well) Americans fail at the ability to make that convergence. I personally believe that it is nice to have that personal connection, but by trade these people are supposed ACT, so there is always gonna something that you aren't fully connected to or understand. The ability to do that is what really sets people apart. Playing yourself doesn't really show your acting chops. Though there are plenty of actors that do just that. But it doesn't make any sense that you would let a person do something badly just because you are too lazy or racist to find an actor with said background because you clearly need the authenticity in your production, and other groups aren't able to convey that.
@mrs.caribbeanish8184
@mrs.caribbeanish8184 7 лет назад
+sdamecuteUK I agree, but genuine authenticity isn't this issue, i'ts the obvious/possible bias you speak of in "The SERGE in casting British black actors OVER American black actors". Sam Jack alluded to the possible preferences being based on the fact or belief that the Brits tend to be classically trained or something... * I think casting directors like when actors can step away from the familiar and embody the character from scratch....that's the point right? The further their current reality is from the character the more accolades and acclaim they may receive for taking on the part...unless they were never really right for the part...(Will Smith reference). * Sam Jack also said they make more money in AA roles...so...more resumes...more options...
@LanceDa510
@LanceDa510 7 лет назад
***** wait... how did you know I'm half Panamanian
@garydorris1995
@garydorris1995 7 лет назад
I find it funny because non AA remind us how we are different from them. But when we it say it's a problem? I don't get it.
@SenseiAishitemasu
@SenseiAishitemasu 7 лет назад
bloop
@garydorris1995
@garydorris1995 7 лет назад
you shut the fuck up. You guys like just like whites when called out racism :moan ,whine ,bitch ignore as long as it benefits you. I don't care if we are liked by the world with is bulid of colonialism and oppression/caste system which you want to so badly be apart of. I know my roots and culture and am glad (no shade) I'm not like you😋😎 bitter and hateful and another thing it's funny because black immigrants try their best to mirror white Americans to when comes to the treatment A As but ok your opinion of AAs is the same as the rest of world: does not matter .
@845lollipoplove
@845lollipoplove 7 лет назад
"the world with is bulid of colonialism and oppression/caste system which you want to so badly be apart of" africa still suffering from colonialism bro dont do this
@garydorris1995
@garydorris1995 7 лет назад
i was talking about that person not Africa. I didn't say Africa didn't suffer from. colonialism.
@garydorris1995
@garydorris1995 7 лет назад
Thanks for proving my point 😂. Like I said before non AAs opinions don't matter . graduations by the way you sound just like a racist white American 😋 .
@richiemackintyre5094
@richiemackintyre5094 7 лет назад
Taraji p Henson is a classically trained stage actress too. But, she will never be scene as such.
@phoenixmoneypenny4864
@phoenixmoneypenny4864 7 лет назад
I was going to mention her, but I wasn't 100% sure. I thought I heard her talk about in an interview at one point, but she is
@SenseiAishitemasu
@SenseiAishitemasu 7 лет назад
I would personally say that even schools like Julliard (saw another comment mention Necole Beharie) do not carry the prestige that the British schools carry... and that again comes down to this kind of classist divide between 'American' and 'British,' but that's just my opinion. I mean technically going to school for acting means you're **classically trained** but I don't think that's what these people REALLY mean when they say that...
@richiemackintyre5094
@richiemackintyre5094 7 лет назад
I wrote scene lmao
@phoenixmoneypenny4864
@phoenixmoneypenny4864 7 лет назад
richie mackintyre I knew what you meant 😉😉😊😊❤️
@TheGanation
@TheGanation 7 лет назад
when Halle Berry won an Oscar the first thing my mom said was that she shouldn't have had to play a drug addict so many times to get there
@mslisa_boss68
@mslisa_boss68 7 лет назад
Samuel Jackson has a very good point, because they don't have the same experiences, that black American's have had...and still go thought today... I don't think they should have been given a role , that a black American had to experience... They only know about what's happening to us by reading in news papers or history books, not living the everyday experiences that a African American has to deal with on a daily bases...We are not attacking them it's the truth...just like they had some kind of experience in their own countries ,that we know nothing about...most of them know who they are, and where they were from and where their ancestors came from... we are just starting to learn... and because we make a statement it's not coming against them, it's us wondering , and voicing our wonder...asking why was it done this way and not the other... so they should never feel like we're attacking them, because we don't do that...but they have come against us... and that's a wonder also if something we're to happen to African American's as a hold would they just sit back and watch and not have anything to say or do...
@SenseiAishitemasu
@SenseiAishitemasu 7 лет назад
Fabulous Lisa I agree
@ChristalJ
@ChristalJ 7 лет назад
I lowkey feel like casting black British actors over black Americans is definitely some classicism shit. Black Americans are always seen as lower on the totem pole. It's the accent bruh. It's the simple fact that they're British from the U.K. and from Europe as opposed to just being a regular American nigga. Black Brits are fetishized and looked at as better simply because they're British. Same way that Will Smith was chosen over a Nigerian because he's American and probably looked at as better in that specific situation because we already know how Africans are viewed in America by other Americans. I could be wrong in my examples but I hope I still got my point across. I feel like this has manifested in different ways. Brits have always been looked at as classier, better, and things of that nature as opposed to Americans. People hear a person British accent and just automatically assume that person is smart and of class or of status simply because of their foreign accent. But I'll just end this with an "idk" in case this came off as dumb lol.
@Xtinaiyayi
@Xtinaiyayi 7 лет назад
Christal J I agree!!
@ChristalJ
@ChristalJ 7 лет назад
razorSE15 doesn't matter. They have a foreign accent lol. Same way how even in our own society as Americans if you speak with a "proper accent" and not AAVE then you're considered better cause you're not talking like some nigga from the hood. You can have conversations with whitey. You're seen as educated and intelligent.
@ChristalJ
@ChristalJ 7 лет назад
Since being European even if you're black I feel is just associated with whiteness
@ronniemegami4420
@ronniemegami4420 7 лет назад
You are absolutely right. It wasn't until I went to a PWI college and saw how the international black students were treated WAY better than the American blacks. And it was almost like the international black students were being taught to be anti - black American .
@ChristalJ
@ChristalJ 7 лет назад
Fuck I deleted that comment and didn't mean to. Why do commenters even have the option of deleting someone else's comment 🙄
@IwanAcleverUtubeName
@IwanAcleverUtubeName 7 лет назад
I'm also REALLY glad that you said this conversation of "divisiveness" is childish because it truly is. Ultimately we have GOT to grow up and *STOP FETISHIZING UNITY*. Unity without resolve is pacification. Worthless. Our differences needs to be talked about, need to be address so we can better understand what we're up against on a global scale.
@lillyofthevalley8547
@lillyofthevalley8547 7 лет назад
I watched the round table discussion with Naomi Harris and Taraji P. Henson where they asked Naomi how did she prepare for her role in Moonlight. Naomi said she researched using RU-vid. I was like 👀 she researched being an African American on RU-vid? That is fucking scary to say you can watch a RU-vid video and then be us
@assanlucas6570
@assanlucas6570 6 лет назад
She didn't research how to play an african american she went on RU-vid and found videos of drug addicts being interviewed in crack dens for preparation of the role of Paula who happens to be suffering from substance abuse
@Monaedeezy
@Monaedeezy 6 лет назад
Honestly, a lot of people are watching us on RU-vid. It's strange but all those views and not enough likes is enough to get a person to wonder. Lol.
@blacksncommercials
@blacksncommercials 7 лет назад
You are the "Fucking" best!!!! I've Always treated other blacks from the diaspora with the utmost respect, and inclusion, but I'm becoming more aware of this issue. Not all black people are family, and it explains how we've been treated by many of them. We have common ground, but we must acknowledge our differences.
@darkeyah
@darkeyah 6 лет назад
You broke that down Sis. "Black American Culture belongs to everyone." So we don't get to Define our group. Wow!
@drose7031
@drose7031 7 лет назад
There are various aspects a Black Brit will never understand in regards to the culture and social issues that Black Americans go through. Same can be said in vice versa about a Black American regarding the cultural differences of Black Brits. Hollywood LOVES picking and choosing non-black Americans for roles which American Blacks should be chosen based on respect and authenticity. I'd argue it's almost a microcosm of what we see happen in society in regards to how society elevates non-black Americans over Black-Americans in regards to education, employment and racial stigmas in general. I'm not blaming non-black Americans for that... just saying that the elevating of continental Africans, immigrants, and others from the diaspora are historic, however, we see it play out in a more overt way in Hollywood.
@SenseiAishitemasu
@SenseiAishitemasu 7 лет назад
This
@phoenixmoneypenny4864
@phoenixmoneypenny4864 7 лет назад
I agree 100% and I wish we (black non AAs) would not be so quick to be white supremacy's pets as if we've achieved something.
@krumpgrl
@krumpgrl 7 лет назад
Elevating AA over continental Africans in mainstream media is also historic.
@drose7031
@drose7031 7 лет назад
Why would African-Americans not be elevated over continental Africans in mainstream American media? African-Americans are Americans (not by choice, obviously) but this is the country in which we live and our ancestors die for - we earned our representation which still tends to be denied. Expecting African-Americans and continental Africans to be at the same position within representation in American (mainstream) media sounds as silly as me expecting African-Americans to be at an elevated or equal position as continental Africans in African media.
@drose7031
@drose7031 7 лет назад
Happens far too often. A lot of non-black Africans/immigrants love subscribing to the model minority and being viewed within a lens of respectability and conformability for white society. Creates hostility and animosity between us.
@SenseiAishitemasu
@SenseiAishitemasu 7 лет назад
Also want to add that later on Sam Jack said he wasn't trying to 'slam' Black British actors and he was accused of 'walking back' on his comments after the 'backlash' happened... when I agree that what he said wasn't a slam in the first place. The whole way that his comments are being framed is fucking weird as shit to me.
@tajmahal8472
@tajmahal8472 6 лет назад
I’m late to the game, I know. I just wanted to say I agree with your reception of Samuel Jackson’s comments on black british actors being chosen over black americans in film/television. This way of casting can be seen in the upcoming Black Panther movie as well. Samuel Jackson was LITERALLY STATING AN OBSERVATION. It was NOT an attack on black british actors or their degree of blackness. It was a valid statement, and the medias were just instigating a conflict that never existed (as they normally do).
@IllumiNatetheOracle
@IllumiNatetheOracle 7 лет назад
Ugh!!! I hate when childhood heroes fail you: Spike Lee. I mean homie, how many untrained black americans acted their asses in your classics, to say something like that..... Can you imagine a non black american child playing Troy in Crooklyn? No. We are beautifully diverse in our experiences, we can't even agree on that much these days?
@SenseiAishitemasu
@SenseiAishitemasu 7 лет назад
Spike is like... really into respectability politics and it is so ironic for exactly what you said in this comment.
@floydland3509
@floydland3509 7 лет назад
True, there are certain nuances that only a black kid growing up in America can relate to. I agree about the Crooklyn movie. What's also interesting is that this is happening to some white actors as well. Look at Andrew Lincoln, James McAvoy, Tom Hardy, Hugh Jackman, etc. Something strange is going on in Hollywood.
@ecooper88
@ecooper88 7 лет назад
It all comes down to privilege. There is a privilege of access that many non-American Black people get to Black American's that no one else is typically afforded due to the structure of race in this country. Non-Black American's get a pass to speak on Black American issues, culture, etc in ways that would NEVER be allowed the other way around, but because AA's just see "Black is Black", we typically fail to recognize this. Black American''s asserting our culture and identity as ours and ours alone takes away that privilege, hence the backlash. in my opinion that is exactly what is happening with this debate.
@tulip324
@tulip324 7 лет назад
I remember you linking what Gladwell wrote on twitter a while ago and I read it in awe. It was so true but I never experienced it until college. I could always kind of tell that people who weren't black Americans were seen as better or they felt they were better. In college I finally met some African men and they are quick to separate themselves from other blacks. They'll tell you where they're from before they even finish their name. Lol And they get offended if they're mistaken for anything other than African. It's just ridiculous.
@phoenixmoneypenny4864
@phoenixmoneypenny4864 7 лет назад
Firstly, I'm agreeing with you!! it's funny because I am in university studying nursing and the NUMBER ONE question is where are you from? from other black people. When I say Barbados it's like "oh" the conversation stops. A prime example is a comment I saw on Twitter where someone said that her dad has always said the caribbeans are "the slaves that did not run fast enough", and thought it was hilarious. I was really upset and being told to 'calm down' but these are the things that then impact things like non AA actors not getting roles and those roles going to mainly black africans....even though they are 'british' they all have african parentage, from Idris to Chiwetel, to the latest guy in Get Out - apologies I dont know his full name. I'm wondering if this snobbery stems from being "real african" as opposed to the step sibling, in that we are no longer aware of the customs, practices or even where the hell we are from in Africa?? But as I always say, that isn't my fault, I didn't ask to be STOLEN did I?! ridiculous!!!
@IkesLionsDen
@IkesLionsDen 7 лет назад
I haven't watched the movie but I wonder what he thinks about Black Americans playing Africans. Don Cheadle ;Hotel Rwanda. Laurece Fishborne, Mandela. Forest Whitaker, The Last King of Scotland. With that being said I think all three of these movies had incredible actors and they did the movie justice. It gets even more complicated. Who is going to play Obama? There was one movie that came out where a very dark skin black man was playing him, but it was not about his presidency. When they make an official movie are they going to hire a biracial person, a Kenyan, a Black American, Kenyan American etc???
@SenseiAishitemasu
@SenseiAishitemasu 7 лет назад
Like I said in the video, I think a lot of it is up to the filmmakers style (since we're talking about movies in this example) on whether they want to go for 'authenticity' versus 'acting...' People (not you specifically, but in general) are getting very hostile around that concept but really, that's what it's about... Especially for films that are as grounded in the concept of identity as a movie like 'Get Out,' it's an interesting conversation to have about what is more important, the authenticity of an actor or what some would refer to as pure acting chops... Especially when you take into account the class element of what 'acting chops' even are...
@floydland3509
@floydland3509 7 лет назад
I wonder if for those movies, that they were more concerned with attaching a big name actor instead of leaning towards accuracy. In my opinion, I would almost always side with authenticity when making a film about a real person. It's why Zoe Saldana got so much flak for trying to play Nina Simone, and rightfully so.
@wavy2186
@wavy2186 7 лет назад
but did they go to black brits hollywood and take the roles? nope. those were american made movies.
@IkesLionsDen
@IkesLionsDen 7 лет назад
rockb922​ Well the Hollywood is not exclusively owned by Black Americans. Regardless the point still stands, if the argument is about telling stories and making authentic movies what difference does it make? Besides Jordan Peele a man with Black American ancestry was the director of Get Out.
@SHAKA38
@SHAKA38 6 лет назад
We can now go listen to Continental African's reactions to the accents used in Black Panther by non-Continental Blacks. LOL They thought the accents were laughable, though they still enjoyed the movie.
@ketket1
@ketket1 7 лет назад
I feel like it may come from a selfish place. He may feel yeah Sam J is right but I'm not about to give up any rolls, and how dare you call me out. Just like Zoe playing Nina Simone. I'm sure she knew she wasn't the best person for the roll but she wasn't going to give up that roll or that money.
@SenseiAishitemasu
@SenseiAishitemasu 7 лет назад
YES PRIME EXAMPLE! I made a video about that and a lot of people thought Zoe, a Black Dominican, was completely inappropriate to play Nina Simone, an African-American woman whose very work was about her SPECIFIC Black American experience.
@SenseiAishitemasu
@SenseiAishitemasu 7 лет назад
I can totally see it as being inappropriate
@symayad
@symayad 7 лет назад
I notice also when specifically British actors play do "America accents" I can kind of tell because there's different inflictions and tones in their speech. A prime example for me was David Oyelowo as MLK in "Selma". He had the voice but the infliction was different. Same thing with Idris Elba everytime he plays an American. (I'm sure this is not the point, but it's a thought I had).
@IwanAcleverUtubeName
@IwanAcleverUtubeName 7 лет назад
I see that was well but I find Idris Elba does it pretty well, especially in The Wire. Often times when Black British actors do an American accent it's almost always in White American General English, like Alfred Enoch in HTGAWM. Funny how that distinction is just glossed over.
@trublu8621
@trublu8621 7 лет назад
Nope Idris is good but he's not seamless we just don't comment about it could tell he was foreign when I watched The Wire.
@IwanAcleverUtubeName
@IwanAcleverUtubeName 7 лет назад
Yeah, pretty good doesn't mean seamless, lol. So I got you. We can definitely tell the difference between him and the actors that were actually from Baltimore (Felicia Pearson). I just really liked that he made the effort to learn and utilize AAVE unlike his peers tend to do sometimes.
@LadyCharity
@LadyCharity 7 лет назад
True.
@eryabolonha
@eryabolonha 7 лет назад
I agree with you about a lot of things and I did enjoy hearing your point of view but since the movie 12 years of slave I've been noticing this preference to cast non black americans for controversial roles and it seems like whenever there's going to be racial repercussions, the non American is preferred and I think there's more to it Almost like if it's a black American is to real and the black American who plays the role is going to be 'pressured' to take a position against racism/race
@SenseiAishitemasu
@SenseiAishitemasu 7 лет назад
Hmmmm this is an interesting point
@phoenixmoneypenny4864
@phoenixmoneypenny4864 7 лет назад
this is an interesting point!!!! There is an idea that the non AA black person will be "less trouble"? or something like that. It's like banking on the idea that we (black non AAs) have no cultural competency, we're just glad 'mass'a is giving us the time of day! very thought provoking....
@jazsminacc982
@jazsminacc982 3 года назад
lmao... you know this is an old video when seren says she loves john boyega
@SenseiAishitemasu
@SenseiAishitemasu 3 года назад
HOW THINGS MFING CHANGE 😂😂
@shalenah
@shalenah 7 лет назад
the caste system comment is so real. esp as an AA living in south florida where almost every black person is caribbean/latinx. we're definitely looked down upon
@cocojo58
@cocojo58 7 лет назад
"We're different. It's fine, it's fine." Exactly. I was disappointed with Daniel K.'s response. Samuel L. Jackson deserves more respect and consideration than that. Most Black American men I know also think certain scenes would have been acted out much differently if the role was played by a Black American. The only issue I have with Chiwetel Ejiofor ('12 Years A Slave') is the Black American actors, descendants of slaves, who were passed up for him. What role can the descendant of a slave get if we can't get cast as a slave? Or MLK? Lol, like damn.
@kristinharrison7394
@kristinharrison7394 7 лет назад
Coco Jo it's almost like they know it would be too powerful and resonate with black Americans in a revolutionary way if black Americans played those roles
@cocojo58
@cocojo58 7 лет назад
Kristin Sams it makes sense. Either that or the fact that foreigners seem to be willing to work for less than Americans and won't challenge the system much. We see that in our everyday lives.
@krumpgrl
@krumpgrl 7 лет назад
In whatever case unity would be the only way out.
@msg1001
@msg1001 7 лет назад
You anit telling one lie. As I've commented in your other videos. Lately I've gotten tired of explaining this concept over and over again. Especially as I travel and meet other black people around the world. It's tiring, and I don't get why people don't get it. It's not that fucking hard. I'm Nigerian-American and I get. Maybe because I actually grew up with both pure African-Americans and Nigerians I can see and easily accept that there is a damn difference, and that's not necessarily a bad thing as long as we all still stick together and stand for one another. Hell even my nephews and niece who are ethnically mixed (Black-american and Nigerian-American) are having a different experience than me. I don't understand what's wrong with people when it comes to this topic.
@28ny
@28ny 7 лет назад
You are a thousand percent right. It is obvious that the Black Brits have an advantage due to racism in this country that values foreign blacks over American blacks. I support you.
@noirsynapse
@noirsynapse 7 лет назад
I agree with you about pretty much everything. as a French black person even though I know that Black American cultures are hyper visible here and your experiences and oppression are often used to silence ours (especially when it comes to police brutality), I confess I really was surprised to learn that Stringer Bell was played by a Brit the first time I saw The Wire! When we see where Elba is now and how ppl were so thrilled when rumours of him playing Bond went public (I know I was but hey from Stringer Bell to Luther you can see the privilege in the opportunities). I think the word you were looking for is ableist privilege ;)
@elecktrastorm9916
@elecktrastorm9916 7 лет назад
All I can say is I totally agree. I had no problems with what Samuel Jackson said. I knew exactly what he was talking about. He wasn't saying he wasn't black enough. He was saying you are not Black American and don't have the same experience as us. That's it. The rebuttal sounded like Daniel was reacting to other people telling him he was not black enough. Instead of actually understanding what Samuel was saying he just reacted like he was does when he was questioned. Great job with this video. You said exactly what have been feeling.
@goingonce121
@goingonce121 7 лет назад
Soooooo spot on about this weird misplaced resentment toward Black Americans and their culture, and the diasporas relationship with it.
@survivingyoutoday8519
@survivingyoutoday8519 5 лет назад
I so get you now... you have been holding true to your feelings on this topic and it finally makes sense to us all. I think black Americans have lived in a state of denial... not even looking at how we have our own wonderful culture and history that we should embrace and protect. Its all making sense... but Sensei was already on it. lol
@proppanuts
@proppanuts 7 лет назад
Sam Jackson also said:“They don’t cost as much. Unless you’re an unknown brother that they’re finding somewhere,” he replied. “They think they’re better trained, for some reason, than we are because they’re classically trained. I don’t know what the love affair is with all that. It’s all good. Everybody needs to work, but there are a lot of brothers here that need to work too. They come here because there are more opportunities, and they actually get paid when they work here. Which is fine.
@CURLtureUK
@CURLtureUK 7 лет назад
I get what he's saying and I agree , we all live a different experience. He's right - it may be have been better portrayed by a black American. However to me; it's no different from Forest Whitaker acting as Idi Amin, or when Americans played Jamaicans in Cool runnings with really poor accents - still love the movie but that lack of authenticity doesn't go unnoticed. It happens in Hollywood a lot because they think we are interchangeable.
@CURLtureUK
@CURLtureUK 7 лет назад
From the British perspective, I definitely think Black British people may, in casting situations, receive preferential treatment because of the accent etc. It also has to be acknowledged that Black British actors don't have roles over here so they have to go to America an take American roles, where the authenticity most definitely is probably lost or lesser than if a Black American actor did the role.
@wavy2186
@wavy2186 7 лет назад
Once again, yall are missing the point that those are american movies. they didnt go to the UK to participate in their film industry.
@CURLtureUK
@CURLtureUK 7 лет назад
SamIAm we do however what needs to be understood that there is no real market for black British actors at all really. Hence why they go over to America because of the hypervisibility as Seren mentioned.
@CURLtureUK
@CURLtureUK 7 лет назад
toothy once again, as I said, I acknowledge that but I'm just giving the context as to why Black British actors HAVE to go over to America, I never said the critique isn't valid, especially when it comes to movies specific to the Black American experience like Selma. It's less likely Black Americans go over to the UK because of the hypervisibility in their own market and hardly any roles exist for any type of black person in the UK. Seren has explained it quite well here, I'm just giving the context on the UK market. It's like Drake coming over to act in Top Boy (I know he's Canadian), it's the same thing.
@CURLtureUK
@CURLtureUK 7 лет назад
Tharealtharowkilla true that! Forgot about that
@barnesmafia
@barnesmafia 5 лет назад
I'm am only loyal to so called Black Americans. However, I believe we can and should be allies with other "black" people as well. I agree with Samuel L. Jackson 100%
@Sab_MJsMama
@Sab_MJsMama 7 лет назад
Maybe one of the issues is that Black Brit actors are hired nine times out of ten, more often than African Americans actors. Is anyone examining this? Didn't think so. Jordan Peele spoke about this.
@milahkay212
@milahkay212 7 лет назад
I agree with you Seren. However, I'm just going to add that Black Americans should not play Caribbean Blacks or Africans either. It's not capturing their experience well either. Will Smith should not have played in Concussion. I'm with you girl binary thinking is really annoying. There's degrees on a spectrum. Stop polarizing us please. Put your critical thinking skills to use ppl!
@milahkay212
@milahkay212 7 лет назад
SamIAm oh ok now you're giving me more things to consider. But my next thought is, Get Out is an American movie with a British African male lead? Hollywood can do whatever they want. It just seems like Hollywood will keep us divided over this. With all that being said, I'm happy that black people and other POCs are getting work so please don't think I'm not going to support. I will keep supporting these narratives. Thank you for your insight btw
@ellebarker9035
@ellebarker9035 5 лет назад
I don't agree. I think that any black person can play any black role as long as the role doesn't play on the specific experience of the character. I also think that we have to realize that movies have to SELL, and casting a no name Nigerian would not have made money for the studio and investors
@girlinterrupted9792
@girlinterrupted9792 7 лет назад
Just like with Jennifer Hudson playing Winnie Mandela. Many were upset about that - as they should be. Yes, being black she had every right to play the part. However, there's no way you can tell me that the role would have been interpreted different by a South African woman who either lived through apartheid or is living through its aftermath. SLJ merely posed a question. I honestly don't see the issue either. BTW I absolutely LOVED how gratuitously you threw fuck around HA! Fuckity fuck fuck FUCK😁
@bigfeezy19
@bigfeezy19 7 лет назад
Can you please talk about the slave-ship NCAA. How black men or black students aren't accepted to these schools but yet they makes up 60-80% of their basketball programs and at least 50% of their football programs.
@axeslinger94
@axeslinger94 7 лет назад
I think this conversation extends to an even larger one of why certain parts of the diaspora feel they're better than American black people. I see people online all the time in these discussions quickly jumping to the fact that they're proud of their West Indian heritage, as if they're better than us for simply not knowing when in reality they're halfway home, as Paul Mooney would say. I see so many Nigerian immigrants being quick to distance themselves from the rest of us too...Tbh it really gets annoying as a black American southerner who has no clue about their real roots to keep seeing people say where they're from in such a snobby way bc it's like good for you, you don't have to pay for expensive ass, half complete dna tests that only give a general region just to connect with yourself. It frustrates me not having that information. All I know is that about 4 to 5 generations go back to the current state I'm from and there were a few free black folks here and there, that's it. Imagine having only that to work with basically. This is why it frustrates me in a way. TL;DR - I'm glad we're able to have these intracommunity convos bc they desperately need to be had. How somebody may feel about these discussions obviously can't be controlled, but I only wish people wouldn't be so harsh with their reactions and act like merely bringing it up is a revocation of their black identity.
@phoenixmoneypenny4864
@phoenixmoneypenny4864 7 лет назад
Listen, don't let us caribbeans fool you, we dont really know where we are from in Africa, and it has taken YEARS for people to even acknowledge the slavery history of the Caribbean. I think part of that is due to living in islands that are predominantly black, so you are not (in my opinion) thinking about race, colonialism etc in the same way. Firstly england was 'the motherland' until people woke up and fought for independence, however when you grow up in a place where your teachers, doctors, people in the bank etc are black, you are the majority, you aren't really required or encouraged to talk/think about race in the same way that those of us in predominantly white countries have to, very frequently to survive. I really hate the snobbery, its bullshit. We don't know where we are from, we know west coast if we're lucky. It used to be very difficult for my dad to even have those conversations about the history of the caribbean and slavery, because he didn't think further back than say, his grandparents. There is a lot of cultural amnesia which is also a consequence of white colonial brain washing and destroying most of the evidence of England's dirty deeds. It's quite sick really...
@phoenixmoneypenny4864
@phoenixmoneypenny4864 7 лет назад
axeslinger94 I'm with you, you made perfect sense!!!😃😃😃 I strongly believe (and I think seren has said this too, correct me if I'm wrong) that it's a privilege to know your roots & ancestry, it's a privilege to be able to trace further back than 2 or 3 generations. It's a privilege to know your native language, customs, traditions etc it's a privilege because it enhances your sense of self, your sense of belonging, your place in the world. I used to feel like the term "displaced" was too extra, but now I feel like it's a very apt word for me. So for people to pat themselves on the back because they think they know their heritage is beyond hurtful & insensitive. I think some people enjoy being insensitive assholes and that's also part of the problem. I have this battle every day at university and it's bloody exhausting!!!!!!
@Shalsy10
@Shalsy10 7 лет назад
To add to that I would say there is a major difference between black Caribbeans who were born and brought up there and then came over and those of us who have a Caribbean background but were born in the UK. Especially in terms of what you're aspirations are and if you even have any.
@MFCirca
@MFCirca 7 лет назад
You're awesome for the shoutout. Definitely go to the mvng store even though I left that business to my cofounder. But he's dope and I still support him in stealing my idea (jk. I just have other moves to make). Anyway, I agree with the content of this video. To be honest, I have to be self critical because I judged Samuel Jackson's comment without ever hearing what he said. Once I actually heard his quote, I was like oh... why is this a thing? He didn't even say anything against the actor or his black identity. In regards to your response to my comment, I also agree that I was being reactionary. It's like when white feminists spend all their time saying "women make 77 cents to a man's dollar." And a black man says "that's not always true." The WW yells about how you're using the "not all men" rhetoric, when in reality, he was just saying that WHITE women make 77 cents to a WHITE man's dollar. My reaction was based on being involved in the daily struggle to get people to accept that all black people have to unite to overturn white supremacy or this shit is not getting overturned (last time I will ever compare myself to a white feminist).
@phoenixmoneypenny4864
@phoenixmoneypenny4864 7 лет назад
I'll admit that I was annoyed at Sam Jackson's comments. I think we are definitely not a monolith and our experiences are definitely not the same. I agree there's a convo to be had - I think as a black British person I am sensitive (maybe overly) to us being 'othered'. I think the acknowledgement of difference within the black experience is extremely important but it goes both ways - you seren are in the minority in terms of your thinking!! Lol!!! some people think that there is no racism in England, that we don't have any experience of racism and we have no idea......I think, well for me, that is the context. So even though Sam's comments weren't purposely offensive or anything I know my knee jerk reaction comes from that place. Your video did make me think though,even though I'm a black British person I don't like the black British actors suddenly become model minority or exotic black people in the US. I wish black actors would think twice before taking these roles because its divide & conquer. They will then be used as a rod to beat AAs with.
@Shalsy10
@Shalsy10 7 лет назад
The reason why so many of the black Brits are going over to America is for the exact reason black Americans seem to think is non existent in the UK. That's the hilarious part of all of this.
@SenseiAishitemasu
@SenseiAishitemasu 7 лет назад
Yeah like I said in the video, a lot of Black Brits are coming here because racism prevents them from getting roles at home... It really is cyclical
@phoenixmoneypenny4864
@phoenixmoneypenny4864 7 лет назад
Sensei Aishitemasu I've also noticed that most of the actors are African, (parentage if not born there) and I wonder whether consciously or subconsciously that plays into the tendency to cast them in roles in the US. Just a thought that might not even make sense but i wonder if that plays any part in the dynamic/the cycle? in terms of the "exotic" black person? I am now wondering if that aspect is deliberate 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@richiemackintyre5094
@richiemackintyre5094 7 лет назад
Phoenix Moneypenny But, your experiences and our experiences are not the same. It is DISRESPECTFUL for any foreign black to think otherwise.
@phoenixmoneypenny4864
@phoenixmoneypenny4864 7 лет назад
"Foreign black"?!?! Jesus........ But anyway I did clearly say our experiences are different, they're not the same.
@phoenixmoneypenny4864
@phoenixmoneypenny4864 7 лет назад
But what you're saying IS real, re actors going to the US after not getting jobs here in the UK and then taking jobs that potentially could go to an AA actor. This idea about classical training and stage is crap as well, I think that's used against AA actors unfairly, coz black people aren't going to the prestigious acting schools here, they're not, they don't even get in!!! When they 'break out' it's usually because they have some considerable connections, like Naomi Harris.They will be on the stage but shows that no-one is going to see, no-one knows about them. Think about it ( shout out to solange & master P!!!!! Lol) If they were so highly trained & so gifted they would get roles here!!!! Lol! people project so much onto the accent and their idea of what black actors bring to the table, it's frustrating
@colstonlchinese
@colstonlchinese 6 лет назад
These Black Brits are not portraying classical characters in those film roles you listed, therefore people should stop using that as an excuse for them inhabiting American Black roles. Thanks for sharing your perspective sis.
@Xelanderthomas
@Xelanderthomas 6 лет назад
On of the things that cracks me up about this whole riff is that the Brits, both white and black, in general look down their nose as American actors. They feel they are better trained, come out of a deeper theatre tradition, all that.
@solaadeniyi7720
@solaadeniyi7720 5 лет назад
how is that so???
@jayemaelle3462
@jayemaelle3462 7 лет назад
There are NO roles for Black Brits in Europe, so they come to US desperate to find work (like every other AA actor). They know there's priviledge in being 'foreign' bc they're seen as more _"classically trained"_ than their AA counterparts so they use it...who wouldnt? However, *they need to work too*..... oh and Daniel auditioned for the role and got it. An *American* director/studio hired him for #GetOut
@kevinrobinson1357
@kevinrobinson1357 7 лет назад
Jaye Maelle black American actors didn't "Come here" to find jobs, they've been trained in traditional American theatre.
@jackriver1999
@jackriver1999 6 лет назад
There is no film industry in the UK, apart from James Bond and Harry Potter. Probably explains the lack of roles.
@realtrini2007
@realtrini2007 7 лет назад
Hi Seren, I agree that blacks through out the diaspora have different experience. I am a west indian who went to University in the states ( Connecticut for 1 year and Louisiana for 3 years) and then went to the UK to pursue a law degree. Being here I understand the point you were making about the classism. That is a ingrain thing in the UK and I hate that. In any field of work, your grades, name and school are looked at and they do not account for life experience at all even though if you are in the upper classes that does not matter. That is the one thing I love the US for. For black british actors, the classism may push them to attend these acting schools because if you are not, then no work for you. I am glad you expressed your opinion on it because I was trying to understand where Samuel Jackson was coming from with his statement. As you said we as a diaspora must recognise, we are all africans, you have different cultures and experiences.
@Shalsy10
@Shalsy10 7 лет назад
Very true what you say about classim over here. A lot of discussion is going on regarding the creation of the black middle class around the 90s. Of course this was around the time all riots and protests were going on. A lot of division and emphasis now on removing yourself from the poorest blacks. Quite possibly the "smartest" thing done in the UK from white supremacy pov
@wanderlustxx3
@wanderlustxx3 7 лет назад
I don't think black brits are oppressing black Americans by "taking" acting jobs away from them. I do see how it could be frustrating for black American actors. Yes they are unable to get acting jobs in the U.K. , but many non American white ppl do the exact same thing because America has the largest entertainment industry. A woman like Margot Robbie (Australian) and a Jennifer Lawrence (American) don't really have to feel like they need to compete for roles, there is always enough space and roles for white actors. Whereas I guess black actors do, which says more about the issues in Hollywood. In some cases yes I believe where a black person comes from might matter when it comes to casting, but in this case I really don't see how it could have changed much.
@helloimshakiragabo
@helloimshakiragabo 7 лет назад
Always love your videos Seren
@brownsugaspark9811
@brownsugaspark9811 7 лет назад
From my perspective being an African woman born and raised in the UK. I agree that roles that are sensitive and culturally specific to certain people should be played by those people in-order to withdraw the appropriate energy and emotions from the roles. I don't know what it’s like to be an AA woman and as much similarities that we may have we also have quite significant differences. I BELIEVE that both AA and non-American black people should be receptive of all the criticisms that we have for each other. However I've also seen very petty, rude and just downright hateful comments that are unnecessary and offensive. For anybody to try and minimise peoples suffering because you don’t perceive it to be as serious as yours is backwards and won't help with improving relations amongst the diaspora.
@anaa5296
@anaa5296 7 лет назад
I've had this conversation a while ago, and it's not controversial at all, people (for some reason) were blowing this up. Like, in my honest opinion, black Americans have a unique experience that other people simply don't have. Deal with it. Why are people do entitled to Black American seats? At least be grateful that you're sitting there & stfu. Criticising black British actors doesn't mean you "hate" them either, it's totally ridiculous to think that. And it's not even that much about them, it's about the spaces and seats they're put in. thank you for this video ❤👍
@justniquol8972
@justniquol8972 7 лет назад
When he made that comment about his blackness being come into question I was like "WTF", like you said his blackness wasn't coming into question.
@blacknetizen
@blacknetizen 7 лет назад
i was initially sort of meh about Samuel Jackson's comment, but this put it in perspective for me. I still probably wouldn't have said it myself, but I did notice that Daniel acted very "Black" lol. It's funny tho bc these conversations have ALWAYS been necessary (see Americans in Liberia). And it's totally classism to say that it's completely justified for ppl who don't have access to arts education (bc who rly does in the US?) to be shut out to a certain extent from representing themselves. Yeah, the training usually enables them to do accents (what I've heard about British actors in general from a dialect coach), but that's not the entirety of portraying a person.
@Gatta1000
@Gatta1000 7 лет назад
great video agree 1000%
@scmachache1
@scmachache1 7 лет назад
As a black Brit I was really pissed off more with the fact that Sam Jackson said that: "Daniel grew up in a country where they've been interacially dating for a hundred years" Firstly thats bs and strangely even if it was true it didn't stop my black father and white mother having bricks thrown through their windows in the 80s so.. not sure if he knows what he's talking about. I love your videos and you usually thoroughly dissect quotes like you did in your response to Daniel Kaluuya's comments but not Sam Jackson's. I don't disagree with what you're saying but you're missing some of what he said that annoyed people. Also his performance was great but it would have been good to have had an African American in the role as I noticed some British (Londoner) mannerisms coming through. I don't think that any of us should be dismissive of one another's experiences in general.
@iloveyourgyatttt
@iloveyourgyatttt 5 лет назад
Sekai Machache same with my parents in the 80s. It's still not easy for them to this day.
@MissMeMe343
@MissMeMe343 5 лет назад
The interracial dating experience in the UK is not the same as America. Black were marrying white women immediately after immigrating there and your rates are much higher than ours. It was illegal here and punishable by death. Rumors of black men just looking at a white woman resulted in lynchings and burnings of black towns. Our experience is different, not better or worse but different. That's what Sam Jackson was saying.
@chebang556
@chebang556 7 лет назад
Know this is an older video but it's funny that though Samuel L Jackson is right in what he said, Key and Peele also see things the same way. Here is a skit from their show linked below. Peele who went on to write/direct Get Out did exactly the same thing as in that skit when casting a British actor for an American role. Art imitating life or life imitating art¿ Watch "Key & Peele - Gangsta Standoff" on RU-vid ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-leL_bsHEZdM.html
@birdiewolf3497
@birdiewolf3497 7 лет назад
This is definitely one of my favorite videos, because I've seen these differences as a primarily as a Nigerian American (truth is once you start digging, you realize it goes way beyond my cultural experience), and you are so correct about how people want to be sensitive about it. I am lowkey glad that this conversation was brought up because we need to talk about it. I want a huge open dialogue about the differences in the black community worldwide or even in just America. Yes we are all bound together by our Afro heritage, but it sure as hell doesn't mean that we are the same. Or that we had the same experiences or even cultural upbringing. I am tired of people thinking that we are the same. That is some wypipo bullshit, and it just another layer of oppressive crap that we need to deprogram ourselves from. I just find it interesting that we want to tell others not to see us as a monolith, yet at the same time enforce that monolithic thinking in our community. It is as you said there are no shortcuts to revolution and it shows that this cognitive dissonance going on is fucking unhealthy and leading to resentment. To end this oppression we need to address EVERYTHING wypipo have corrupted. This shit is stage 4 cancer that has metastasized and infecting all parts of the body. It isn't just about taking out the primary tumor, it is in the bloodstream. Going back to the phrase 'we are all African' it really does piss me off when people use that. It really does show there is a lack of nuance in this person because Africa is a HUGE continent. I mean there is such a difference regional wise (North, West, East, Central, South) talkless of the disparity found between different tribes and religion in different countries. One of the things that really stuck out to me during my trip to Nigeria last summer was a commercial they had playing where they celebrated the diversity found in Nigerian. I get that might completely shatter people's existence that a country of black people think they are diverse even though they are all black, but it is fucking true. There is a diversity in blackness. It should be celebrated and acknowledge the certain disparities that exists in the groups that can lead to oppressive tactics of others. Just to start, my own experience tells me that we all tend learn other forms of black experience (that differ from our own) through the white lens (again because we don't have these conversations between ourselves, and if we don't try to seek it out the truth, we are susceptible to adhering the white narrative). And it doesn't even really have to limit itself to just different black ethnicities. Look how black men can co op certain misgynoir beliefs that began with white people. As for the on black actors in Hollywood, it is classist as shit, but also racist classist shit. A lot of casting directors want to sight the pedigrees of the British black actors, and it shows again that black must be excellent while white people can get a pass for their mediocrity. I mean look at Emma Stone best actress winner. Girl barely made it through high school and yet here she is. Same thing with Jennifer Lawerence, Amy Adams, etc. It really is another excuse to put black Americans down, since they are given limited opportunities to get formal training or stage training that if they want to pursue acting, they have to take what they can fucking get and that may include music videos (Fuck Spike Lee for that comment. I can write a whole other thing about how shitty that was to say that). It is understood that while formal training is nice and all, if you don't have it, you can still be accomplished, only problem is that is mainly understood for wypipo. Everyone else must have a minimum of master's degree but preferably a PhD, ten years industry experience, and been nominated for an Oscar at least twice, and sidenote if you are a woman you have to be no older than 25. It is a lot to unpack, and frankly we can write a PhD dissertation on just one aspect of the diversity in the black community and it's effects on the sub group and interactions between other black people outside the sub-group. All in all it was really telling how people reacted to Samuel Jackson's comment. They really did him dirty (which is really another thing about black americans being vilified in the black community more so than anyone other group. It touches on the white narrative, and the black american experience being the poster child of blackness globally. Another dissertation right there.) I see people want to complain about not delving into specifics, but like bitch you can't be here all day. This topic is WAY too broad. You did the best you could trying to summarize the issue. Some people just want to bitch.
@egnarnia
@egnarnia 7 лет назад
Agree with Samuel Jackson comments
@proppanuts
@proppanuts 7 лет назад
Sam Jackson: “I know the young brother who’s in the movie, and he’s British,” ... “There are a lot of black British actors that work in this country. All the time. I tend to wonder what would that movie have been with an American brother who really understands that in a way. Because Daniel grew up in a country where they’ve been interracial dating for a hundred years. Britain, there’s only about eight real white people left in Britain… So what would a brother from America made of that role? I’m sure the director helped. Some things are universal, but everything ain’t.”
@halikay640
@halikay640 7 лет назад
It's kind of ironic because as black men who are not light skinned, I'm sure John and Daniel have a very good understanding of the issue of colorism and how it impacts them lol. I was so disappointed to see their headass comments.
@cara5868
@cara5868 7 лет назад
The primary English-speaking film industry is in the United States; Black British actors being English speaking are going to be in the market for roles in which Black English speaking actors are required--many of those roles being developed by the American film industry--which prioritises telling African-American stories. One of the claims being made against offering Black British actors these roles is that they don't have the first hand experience; most often actors don't have first hand experience of the exact things that any particular character their playing undergoes; that is why actors study and research and in order to be good at the job need a talent and skill for *acting*. Many of the actors specifically mentioned in this video have given excellent performances in such roles--how then can it be claimed that their lack of first hand experience of growing up in the US diminishes their capacity to play these roles? Should Black actors from other parts of the world also not play African-Americans? It seems to me the only thing worth taking issue with on this topic is the lack of opportunities to tell the stories of people from the African diaspora--surely all the rest of it is not much more than squabbling for a piece of too small pie?
@talkativeafrican8071
@talkativeafrican8071 7 лет назад
YES.
@CourtneyxAmanda
@CourtneyxAmanda 7 лет назад
Did youtube change their subscriber algorithm or something? Because I swear for the past few months you (a lot of other bloggers) havnt been showing up on my subscriber homepage, but they sure make sure buzzfeed is up there...?
@axeslinger94
@axeslinger94 7 лет назад
Another thing I notice about these conversations being had, which aren't new at all btw, is that so many black immigrants, in this case black brits, get so offended whenever there's an identity discussion bc they act as if the end goal is for black americans to say that no one else in the diaspora anywhere in the whole world is as black as us, which is entirely untrue! Then you have the other side of things where people are saying too many black people from outside the U.S. are "taking all the jobs", and not only does that sound like wild immigration talk over here now under tr*mp's bitch ass, but it also sounds like other black folks clamoring to experience what being a black american is like, almost as some type of aesthetic. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong tho. I know some black brits in the comments so far have said that the work for black actors where they are just isn't there but you could honestly argue the same thing anywhere you go unless you're in an African country, where that's typically the dominant make up of what people look like across ethnicities, so to speak. Even that could probably be argued against by someone who was born and raised in an African country, unlike myself, but hopefully you get what I mean.
@axeslinger94
@axeslinger94 7 лет назад
Sometimes racial discussions are a little difficult to have with this type of nuance, especially given the last thing I said. Everything in the U.S. is based purely on looks (phenotype, colorism shaped by melanin amount, etc.) and ability (approximation to whiteness, beauty privilege aka how attractive you look in general, etc.) when it comes to race. We aren't allowed to have that type of nuanced discussion unless it's among ourselves so excuse anything I've said if it's wrong in either previous comment.
@starsinger5935
@starsinger5935 5 лет назад
On being black and acting I wanted to say it is so much easier for non-americans to have access to American dialect training than for Americans to have access to British/Non-American accent training. They usually want to cast close to authenticity then.
@MissMeMe343
@MissMeMe343 5 лет назад
And they grow up watching our shows and listening to our music so they imitate us and we don't watch them or listen to their music so we're not even exposed to their accent or culture.
@khaliddontplay818
@khaliddontplay818 7 лет назад
At the end of the day this is acting its a craft, he come in read his lines with conviction and captures momentarily the minds of the views. I never knew he was british which is testament to his skills as an actor just like idris in the wire sam didnt make these comments then?
@bethanyroy7873
@bethanyroy7873 7 лет назад
That part about 7 min in you say "it's a lot of work when you could just hire a native speaker" -- for voice acting that doesn't work out all that well. It's really common for people to play multiple characters in dramatized, even in BBC productions which can have more live-at-table than American productions. Even in Yuri Rosofsky stuff. It also hems in what the producer can do in terms of adjustments to announcements at production time. They might want to try it a few different ways, and bringing in a bunch of people costs way more for the producer, so someone who can cover more bases is more valuable. Then there's character quoting within a narration.That comes up in audiobooks a lot (audiobook guys sometimes wont even listen to V.O. announcement demos - they shitcan em) where you have a single narrator but they separate characters speaking by giving them their own vocal character. For audiobook Scott Brick even says it's the FIRST thing casting agents look at for audiobook. Real important not just for pacing but also you can't see line breaks and punctuation in audiobooks what separate conversations. A ll in all, more versatile voice actor just gets more work. It's the realities of that business.
@thisangryblackfemale
@thisangryblackfemale 7 лет назад
We don't know The British experience personally or what they deal with as far as racism and oppression but we do know the history of it is different from African American history in this country. Js
@proppanuts
@proppanuts 7 лет назад
I agree with the fact that are differences should be acknowledged and that they shouldn't halt our mission as a people. Sam Jackson made a great point but he also exposed the chip he had on his shoulder, the bitterness was very apparent
@sandrallewellyn2632
@sandrallewellyn2632 7 лет назад
If ethnic and cultural differences in the Diaspora didn't play into the American caste system as well as highlight the varied lived experiences within the Diaspora, then why did Zoe Saldaña(and David Oyelewo) think it was ok for Zoe to wear black face and prosthetics as NINA SIMONE(directed and casted by white women)??
@SenseiAishitemasu
@SenseiAishitemasu 7 лет назад
Yeah someone else mentioned that movie. There is def an underlying idea of we're all the same, we're all interchangeable. And it's like eh... we're kinda not? Lol
@jayemaelle3462
@jayemaelle3462 7 лет назад
Can we talk about how Black actors _'who kinda make it'_ become *token Black Hollywood monopoly.* David Oyelowo played MLK, Ugandan, S.African. Lupita played AA, Ugandan, Danai Gurira/Will Smith (freaking Ice T) played Nigerians, Kerry Washington & Forest Whitaker as Ugandans (in black face), John Boyega as an AA and _sooooooo_ many more. *WE ARE NOT THE SAME HOLLYWOOD!!*
@pianoman6584
@pianoman6584 7 лет назад
I think SLJ had a point. Idris Elba in The Wire... The guy from 12 years a slave... Now this. All British folks. Why not just choose a straight up AA to represent an AA in the film? To be fair, the same thing is happening to white folks if you look at House or The Walking Dead.. or any film with Micheal Fassbender portraying an American. So rest assured that this is more of an American vs European situation.
@SenseiAishitemasu
@SenseiAishitemasu 5 лет назад
They literally said what their point was, it’s an American vs European situation, can you not read?
@jayemaelle3462
@jayemaelle3462 7 лет назад
This video finna start a diaspora war on Twitter. I missed the last one
@carolinetaiwo5596
@carolinetaiwo5596 7 лет назад
Sam Jack made a moot point. First, his same logic could've been used to ask what if the lead male character, Chris, was fair-skinned and bi-racial (like the director himself) instead of dark-skinned since those are also two very different Black male experiences. It is irrelevant to the film's commentary on racist elite white liberalism to call out the nationality of the Black male lead when Black actors from outside of America personally experience the daily elite white racism depicted in this film. Furthermore, for the sake of the storyline itself, the nationality of the Black male character, Chris, is irrelevant since we know that the girlfriend has lured binders full of Black men back to her home, any one of which could've been foreign-born. For these reasons, the nationality of the black male lead doesn't affect the movie in a hypothetical or historical context. Second, the sentiment Sam Jack made about Black British actors taking Black American actors' roles is one I remember from a few years back when the period film "12 Years A Slave" came out. "12 Years" was written, directed, and starred by non-American Black actors, and to Sam Jack's point, it completely and utterly SHOULD NOT have been. However, "Get Out" is set on an obscure family estate and aside from a few small Americanisms (Obama references, etc) it speaks to the contemporary and shared anti-Black fears Black men who date white women have in white dominant countries (of course the U.S. and countries in Europe but even think about South Africa). There is nothing sacred about white women seeking out Black men for their otherness, athleticism, artistry, or sexual prowess. There is nothing homogeneous about white people wanting to live inside of Black people's skin. I AGREE that Black diasporic experiences and identities are VERY different and we of course are not a monolith, but in the case of "Get Out" there isn't footing for Sam Jack's argument. Comments and responses always welcome.
@drose7031
@drose7031 7 лет назад
The poverty element of Chris story line is a uniquely Black American experience, including the abandonment issues Chris felt from his father abandoning him and his mother at an early age. The fact Chris's mom was working long hours in terrible weather and forced with the decision of leaving her underage son home alone is also a uniquely black American experience due to the social impacts of fatherlessness on the American black experience. The story of Georgina and Walter that was given to Chris regarding them being 'servants' on this large family estate - plantation/slavery undertones - and the perception that it sends to guest is also a uniquely American experience - which Chris acknowledged. This was encapsulated with the Obama comment which white liberals love to spew to Black people in American which is meant to disarm black Americans and white liberals racism. These are unique American experiences within the film that under the guise of a black American lead actor possibly could've been elaborated on and given more substance.
@npkandi
@npkandi 7 лет назад
On colorism: I really did not understand the nuances of colorism until I had my own Chocolate baby. It was a constant battle with white teachers and some colorstruck black teachers.
@BootTribe504
@BootTribe504 2 года назад
The difference between Will Smith in Concussion and Daniel Kaluya in Get Out is that these are American movies for American people, if it was a African movie made in Africa by Africans for Africans than it would be different.. We don't go to other countries for opportunities thereby taking roles from the native Africans.. These people go to everybody else country demanding the same rights instead of building their own industry....
@onceevery4years
@onceevery4years 7 лет назад
I love how you call him Sam Jack. I make it a note to always say Samuel L. Jackson lol and I have no idea why.
@SenseiAishitemasu
@SenseiAishitemasu 7 лет назад
Ha my mom calls him that and it stuck
@mckeewardiv6307
@mckeewardiv6307 5 лет назад
Dan doesn't need to prove his blackness. However, what he needs to prove is his comprehension level. John Boyyeahgah is 🚮
@makimoments
@makimoments 7 лет назад
i just want to take this moment and thank seren for checking me lol
@PiLarTheStarlet
@PiLarTheStarlet 7 лет назад
Keep doing what you do sis. You are speaking facts. Unfortunately we have more stupid people than smart people in the world.
@erronperez8215
@erronperez8215 7 лет назад
Also the social & economic arguments he makes are totally unrelated, as far as I can tell. Both valid on their own, but not really supportive or cohesive w/ each other. Moral of the story? I'm Black American, never lived in Britain, but I didn't personally feel like I was missing anything in this particular case w/ a Black British actor cast as the lead.
@naturalazula1009
@naturalazula1009 7 лет назад
Can you write a book or a journal or something? Lol I'd like to read it
@SenseiAishitemasu
@SenseiAishitemasu 7 лет назад
I wrote a book! It's available on Amazon: www.amazon.com/About-That-Contemporary-Essays-Culture/dp/1516857038/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1440460640&sr=8-1&keywords=so+about+that...+a+year+of+contemporary+essays+on+race+and+pop+culture/
@naturalazula1009
@naturalazula1009 7 лет назад
Thanks! Added it to my cart. I may use you as a reference for my next paper.
@anthonyblackburn1625
@anthonyblackburn1625 7 лет назад
acting...few people knew the brother was British until sam opened his mouth. that's how good an ACTOR he is. sam played a good house slave didn't he? everyone is taking this way out of proportion. sam had a point but it would've been better expressed by a non actor.
@SenseiAishitemasu
@SenseiAishitemasu 7 лет назад
I knew he was British because I saw him in Black Mirror. And using the Black Mirror episode as an example, the point stands... the first two seasons of Black Mirror were set and filmed in the UK as it's a British show that was later on picked up by Netflix. Daniel, a Black British actor, starred in one of the most critically acclaimed episodes (500 Million Merits... watch it if you haven't seen it!!) and then was able to be cast as a Black American in 'Get Out.' RARELY, if ever, could the reverse happen, wherein a Black American actor stars in a Black American television show and then moves on to do movies in Britain. #ItsJustNotRealistic
@ZezeRants
@ZezeRants 4 года назад
I love your content! 🔥✅
@solofemmenoire9108
@solofemmenoire9108 3 года назад
I know this is old but yeah… they told us to wait until our stories were told. and now our stories are being told and we still not good enough to play ourselves
@malcolmmoodysr.8173
@malcolmmoodysr.8173 5 лет назад
U are absolutely right and u are very pretty 👑💎😍 (sigh) ... and have a great sense of humor 😇 !! New Sub
@dorap1993
@dorap1993 4 года назад
Questioning my blackness=Questioning my BlackAmericanFace ..... we’re not the same
@adrontate601
@adrontate601 7 лет назад
we need a new hollywood shuffle.
@erronperez8215
@erronperez8215 7 лет назад
Your criticisms are pretty spot on- as far as the validity of what SLJ is saying & people's reactions to it being disproportionate- but I do think that in terms of Get Out itself, there isn't really anything that Daniel is missing in terms of *bringing* something to that particular role. The dangers (yes) & taboos of interracial dating are pretty common across the African diaspora in the West, & I don't think that's something you have to be American in order to understand. Plus, what's the difference, say, between Mahersha Ali playing an Afro-Cuban (when he ain't in real life), & Daniel K playing the lead in Get Out? It seems like a valid criticism that was wasted on a bad example, IMO. But people could chill out on the "let's all come for Sam Jackson" crusade.
@mywrittenvoice
@mywrittenvoice 7 лет назад
The current love interest in Being Mary Jane-- Black Brit
@Shalsy10
@Shalsy10 7 лет назад
Seren with regards to the Guardian I think some context is required. That paper is one of the Kings in "good white liberals" and "white saviour complex" in the UK in terms of their tone and content. if newspapers were people they would be one of the alllivesmatter lot. Not that they don't write facts but it's more a case of what they don't say in their articles. Just something to consider. This was really good conversation starter and you gave me a lot to think about and consider with regards to our privilege when coming to the US and how we're seen. I would imagine it's similar to the divide between black Caribbeans and black Africans in the UK.
@phoenixmoneypenny4864
@phoenixmoneypenny4864 7 лет назад
100000000%%%%%%%!!!!!!! lol especially re caribbeans and africans in the UK. People here in the UK like to act like it doesn't exist but it frickin does!!!
@Shalsy10
@Shalsy10 7 лет назад
It's as bad the #teamdarkskin #teamlightskin madness.
@bigfeezy19
@bigfeezy19 7 лет назад
great job, thank you
@micheh.6801
@micheh.6801 6 лет назад
SLJ commentary I agree with. But biracial and multiracial people are not black.
@ryanb9304
@ryanb9304 4 года назад
Lmao it's funny to watch today knowing you cant stand John boyega in the present 😂😂😂😂
@SenseiAishitemasu
@SenseiAishitemasu 4 года назад
😂😂😂
@mrchronicblack5810
@mrchronicblack5810 6 лет назад
This vlog just made me subscribe to you
@feeniix6
@feeniix6 7 лет назад
Random. I have so many videos of yours to catch up on. Been crazy busy.
@gnote206ify
@gnote206ify 6 лет назад
It's not a system as much as it is that people are bred to be douchebags when given power over those that don't.
@johnhrock1009
@johnhrock1009 6 лет назад
What I call the nuances in the black experiences.
@VisionaryMedia24
@VisionaryMedia24 7 лет назад
how did u feel about iron fist
@SenseiAishitemasu
@SenseiAishitemasu 7 лет назад
Eric Taylor racist tripe
@makimoments
@makimoments 7 лет назад
Eric Taylor have you seen the trailer for death note??? im so mad
@Mimi8402
@Mimi8402 7 лет назад
So was the issue that the main character was a Black Brit and not Black American? Or the son of Ugandan immigrants Bka African to many. I ask because as a first generation American of Haitian decent, if I were an actress, I'd see nothing wrong with acting in contemporary American film like this.
@Mimi8402
@Mimi8402 7 лет назад
A better way to phrase it, if Daniel was born and raised in the US instead of London, would there still be an issue? Unfortunately my spidey senses says yes.
@nodjmix1452
@nodjmix1452 6 лет назад
FemmeK why would there be a problem if he was actually born and raised in America playing an African American role?😕
@MissMeMe343
@MissMeMe343 5 лет назад
@@nodjmix1452 cuz he's still not African American.
@SenseiAishitemasu
@SenseiAishitemasu 5 лет назад
They never will be. A Black American is a descendant of American chattel slavery which you either are or you are not. It is not something you ‘become’ over time.
@MissMeMe343
@MissMeMe343 5 лет назад
@Josephine Bournes It takes 400 years starting in 1619. If you aint a descendant of the slaves brought to the US then you aint black American. How come y'all can understand a black American born in Japan is not ethnically Japanese but you can't understand the black American ethnicity isn't a club you can join by moving here?
@tracyburton6522
@tracyburton6522 7 лет назад
You bringing it tonight! You always give me something to think about
@lsquared2762
@lsquared2762 7 лет назад
Preach!
@thisangryblackfemale
@thisangryblackfemale 7 лет назад
You explain so well. Agreed
@NorthSouthEast
@NorthSouthEast 6 лет назад
I attended a cast party for the work of a famous AA playwright years ago. I brought a stack of lynching photos to distribute at the cast party. The first person I approached was the British lead actor. He was insulted even though he played the role of a black man in Jim Crow America. However, the black Americans attendees were intrigued. They asked a ton of questions about the photographs and within a minute l had given every photo to the only people interested. This evening a fine British actor was interviewed on NPR about being cast as a BA. When I saw him act, I thought he couldn’t possibly be a foreigner, he’s that good. And I like him. But hearing him speak live revealed his truer self. He told the white interviewer he had to read tons of book about American history to get the role. He’s an excellent actor, but on the job training qualifies for the role? All I could think about is those who didn’t need a crash course in black studies to play the part of a black man in America, who were passed over. And I like to know what did he read? Does he considered his research complete? I’m not saying there is no place for foreigners in Hollywood, but all things being equal, I don’t want no code switching foreigners to portray our American story. I want the real McCoy.
@simonjerrems3738
@simonjerrems3738 7 лет назад
Everything you said was (once again) awesome!
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