So how much easier are Minecraft Speedruns IF you cheat? 

Does Dream have a wife? Would be a shame if he accidentally installed a mod that made him accidentally cheat on his wife.

Ikr I accidentally ran over a kid and they are charging me with something called “manslaughter.” It was a complete accident.

@@pokos9454 i know right i accidentally shot six people on six deprecate occasions by accident and then denied it for ages, why are people so mad at me?

What if she has a twin sister and you couldn't tell the difference?

I feel you I accidentally just cheated on my wife with her bf

yeah I misremembered it as just being 1.5x more pearls but no, it's about as insane as it can get lmao

It's more complicated than that, actually. Because each hit gives 2-4 pearls, more hits mean you're more likely to get the average drop (3) So it's not just that you get 3x the number of pearls, it also means you're much less likely to get not enough pearls.

@@louisvaught2495 no stupid

It's a bit more complicated indeed. Let's say you performed 10 trades on 5% chance. Your chances of getting pearls in 5 out of 10 would be 252*0.05^5*0.95^5 ~= 0.00006 or 0.006 percent. Now let's say you have 15% chance, then getting pearls 5 times out of 10 will have a probability of 252*0.15^5*0.85^5 ~= 0.0085 or 0.85%, which is about 139 times bigger. Probabilities are funny sometimes.

@@user-xh9pu2wj6b What are all these magic symbols youre using magic man?

Because of stupid people who groupthink and can't imagine that their precious little personality could possibly cheat. :)

It's annoying that Dream stans blindly defended him regardless of Dream said. The MC Speedrunning mod team were out there doing actual research and difficult math solving into the whole situation, and then there were people who blindly disregarded the research and stood by their first opinion. But sadly, this is the internet and that's how 90% of opinions are formed. Even when Dream posted his video with his own failed math and probilities, chances were still against him at 1 in a million. It's surprising how many people thought that the run still being legitimate was plausible.

Dream was using old strats that only used one piglin instead of a whole bastion’s worth so the increased chances were harder to spot

Didn’t his defense get debunked by PhD proven Redditors the same day he released it to the internet

@@cx.240 reading “PhD proven Redditors” gave me a mf stroke

same! I accidentally took my boss's computer and emailed nsfw content to his boss with the caption "suck a fat one lol" and they're all mad at me! I just forgot it wasn't my computer, and the file name was super similar to the quarterly report that was due, and my cat accidentally walked across the keyboard... I just can't win and now I'm going to prison because I accidentally embezzled only a bit of money! that was all six months ago, it's in the past! geez!

Damn that’s true, I accidentally committed genocide in 28 different countries and accidentally evaded law enforcement for 50 years. Crazy how that stuff just happens.

I accidentally ate the last slice of pizza

@@BMN_Prime how dare you good sir?

Yeah I accidentally rolled at 200 MPH in a 90 zone. WASNT MY FAULT

First

It’s you

More like to explain good "RNG"

Or cheating

We meet again

Reminds me of the time he and PointCrow raced in BOTW and PointCrow (jokingly) asserted he was only letting Ant take the first game to give him a head start, to which Ant replied by saying "I guess that's fair, you do have 1000 hours more in this game than me." While he's winning lol

Yea bruh thats why Im a fan

Dream got a 19:25 with the mod. Ant got a 19:32 without the mod, and a 13:31 with the mod. All I see is that Ant is a faster speedrunner.

This is why ant is the best speedrunner

You know what? Imma go ahead and say it. I think Ant could beat Dream in a manhunt.

Don’t Google “Mr. Hands”, big guy.

@@laughisfun2003 what?

so true

@@movistar217 don’t.

Don't Google "coldest place in the universe" and don't check second image

Copied

@JACOB H Copied

@JACOB H copied

@JACOB H copied

I mean dream probably wouldn't be upset because honestly it would just be kinda funny

Let’s see how many subs I can get from this comment Current Subs 9490

@@ceegeetee if being reported counts a sub, 1

I mean it has been once.

Was it ever a viable strat? Last time it ended with disqualification of runs…

@@ceegeetee if being a asshole-levels counts to ur list, u have ♾ on ur list

We need Sinvicta luck too.

That's actually so fcking funny xd

You mean Silk Touch? I think there’s a mod that makes your fists have Silk Touch lol

@@khorneflakes4446 so you mean we need a 73% blaze rod drop chance and still get nothing?

There are already datapacks for that, it's used in tournaments

Instead he attacked everyone else before looking at himself, just like cheaters always do

He also deleted the mod folder after the speedrun moderators told him to send it to them.

@@HappyGingerWolf he apologized and said that what he said to the mods was a dumb thing to do.

you're overestimating him, do you really expect someone to remember a folder he had already forgotten about by time he did the speedruns, them getting watched and the controversy building up by the mere mention of the odds? people have plenty of shit on their minds at any given time, a reference to something isnt necessarily gonna evoke the memory of it suddenly, at least from experience that has not been the case

@@aqox624 he never said sorry for the mod team receiving death threats and getting doxxed, and he even made a video defending the toxic stans

Wow check mark

Heya IVolt

@@burnerfrenzy3392 your comment is so overused you are worse than these checkmarks

@@zicraftian what’s wrong with these check marks again

@@zicraftian somebody had a bad day

Hello verified person

Hi carthu? That was unexpected

Hey I know you

idk the drama was pretty entertaining as well, esp. seeing the mental gymnastics dream stans pulled

@@rayanmalik5744 I agree which is why i said “over discussed” at this point it’d be ad nauseam with little left to be entertained by

Indeed he is just lucky. Winning the loterry 30 billion times in a row is just lucky bro, Idk what ur on.

i wonder how he does it, this man is an enigma

But he said he cheated

It's 5% normally and this boosts it to 15% that's 3x as many

@@zenith2299 woosh

it should tbh

pogloot%

It's just a normal Speedrun with commands

@@ItsStqr thats different tho bc it doesnt just get rid of luck but just straight up gives better/impossible items to get. Also ur literally using an elytra.

@@cocoearmuffs6207 the elytra is a part of a seperate category called icarus.

Indeed

Oh wow hi there

You're here didn't expect you

Kazuma lol

Find ya

That's why he was in the bath, to wash it off.

It's more like "I'm sorry that you have such a problem with me accidentally writing test answers on my arm, but you're being really unreasonable by questioning me about it."

Also, the apology is made half a year after being caught.

A kid literally did this in one of my classes. Left a textbook open in his lap during a test and claimed that "he forgot it was there" when the teacher noticed.

@@spillymcspillmore3426 tell us more

it was sus right away, that's why he got accused in the first place, then he hid the truth by paying a professional mathematician to spread misinformation and then he threatened dream with the truth, so dream was backed into a corner and forced to tell the truth, then he lied more and begged for sympathy

​@@swordzy9220That guy was very far from a professional mathematician...

​@@Cowtymsmiesznegohe was an astrophysicist lmfao. Not even a statistician

@@swordzy9220 i heard even the professional document agree even dream cheated

Didn't he get bill nye the science guy or something

exactly bro. if it was an accident why did he deny it and call the mods biased for months

@@caviicape bc dream is a clown

@@caviicape I remember he said the mods were grasping at strings but to not go after them. Obv with such a large following some will gloss over that but that's when you tell them again to stop harassing the mods. You don't say "Oh no please don't do that" to millions and expecting every single one of them to accept that and when they don't you allow them to keep doing it without telling them off.

@@Robopup325 there’s this one youtuber i used to watch who would find a random kid on instagram or youtube and just make fun of them for like an hour. they got so much harassment after that some had to get off social media completely. saying “don’t harass this person” afterwards doesn’t help lmao

@@caviicape But it could convince some of the harassers to stop

Fun fact: dream never had a 1.16 record

@@Oscar31YT The version Dream was running 1.16 so what do you mean by "never had a 1.16 record"

@@PopeMical yeah. He never set a record in any version other than 1.14, and even his 1.14 run was taken down cause they found a splice. Dream never had a world record

@@Oscar31YT wait, so he's cheated more times in the past??

@@fullshark09 ok. So. The most known about thing was when he modified his 1.16 droprates, but a couple days ago someone found a splice in his 1.15 run, which usually indicates either savestates or scouting the seed before playing it, both of which are not allowed.

"any apology that says “accidentally” to make it seem better isn’t a genuine apology" It's obviously possible to do something on accident so it's irrational to act like doing something on accident is the same as doing it on purpose which is what you are implying when you say he shouldn't bring up that it was an accident in an apology. Dream is a dipshit but if he had genuinely done this by accident and when someone pointed out that it was basically impossible responsed with something along the lines of "oh yeah I was cheating by accident, let me remove my run" or whatever, it would have been fine. His reaction to being called out made it clear that he cheated on purpose but even if it actually was an accident somehow his reaction is what makes him a douchebag not the accidental cheating.

The cheats were over a short period of time, but still it’s an even bigger L for dream now

@@thevirtualpug3d868 very true but ofc the luck caused a few mins timesave itself

Let’s not forget that Ant has newer strategies than Dream did at the time. The big one being using bastions, since it means Ant can complete a LOT more trades than Dream could’ve back then. Using the mod with modern strats makes the cheating very obvious, because a lot more trades happen.

Shhhhhh

Hahaha nice catch

obviously 0th is a score

3RD

Lol

Dream is sus

The amount of times he lies is insane

Me and my fellow russian boys accidentally taking steroids for the Olympics, whoops

@@danielarputharaj9918 Haha, happens to the best of us comrade

Obvious cheating > respect

ant is better, but it also has something to do with the meta change, bastions are much more viable than classic and waaaaay faster

“Oh no I accidentally didn’t notice my mod was installed, and that the drop rates I got were of 1 in 7.5 trillions, since I don’t speedrun that often I couldn’t have noticed it, oh and obviously I insulted who accused me and didn’t even think for a second that my *mod to get better drop rates for the only two most important items to speedrun Minecraft* could have been activated after I’ve been told that my drop rates were of 1 in 7.5 trillion”

Smant knows dream cheated intentionally, he just doesnt want to get death threats and such from toxic dream stans

@@arms.3559 yeah dream’s community sucks quite a lot

@@arms.3559 Yup, thought the same. People would get mad and cry really quickly but SmallAnt ain't stupid and he covers it up really well in his video.

@@arms.3559 Yeah I mean most of dream's friends and stuff also probably know that he cheated but they are obviously pretending to believe him because they are his friends. Even though smallant probably knows that he actually cheated, he probably doesn't want to get on bad terms with dream also.

I know this is ages later, but the stans ain't his responsibility, they are not his kids

@@lordspud6463 considering he fosters and encourages the type of community that would go out and send death threats for people proving that their favorite character cheated, I do think it’s something he should have apologized for, especially because the rhetoric he used at the time encouraged that behavior as well

@@anderpodd2677 sorry, didn't know that he encouraged that

@@lordspud6463 Dream is a piece of shit for more reasons than just his speedrunning cheating. I don't know the full extent of it, but my friends who do won't tell me because they know it'll bother me with the negativity. At this point, "hugely popular content creator" is synonymous with "disgusting human being," considering how often big content creators turn out to be doing shit like grooming minors.

Yeah I remember when this was first happening some of the dream stans claimed that "people where harassing dream for making a simple mistake" instead of the fact that people where mad at him because he was a childish asshole

What does that mean?

@@theo_comics814 means that he has to make less tries to get "lucky" in a speedrun, taking off the days/weeks/months of grinding for a lucky run.

I read that and thought it was mr beast karl, worst part is i watch Karl Jobst :(

@@theo_comics814 To get best of best run requires tens of thousand hours of grind no matter the game. By modifying odds you can get that time by only investing a fraction of that time.

@@theo_comics814 There's an argument that crops up in the context of defending cheating accusations that goes something like, "Why would (this person) cheat, they're so good at the game! Why would they risk so much?" But we see time and time again that the motivation often comes from the player getting frustrated by RNG or other mechanics, and because they have the technical skill to perform all the tricks and such, they start feeling that they "deserve" the time they're going for, and they cheat to shorten the grind and get the time they "deserve".

Was it the one where he brought in a "professional" with a PhD to convince people he wasn't cheating?

@@scoutsleftnut13 a s t r o p h y c i s i s t

@JACOB H anonymous astrophysicist from harvard

yeah but if smallant said that dream intentionally cheated the stans would just harrass him

Dream said he deleted the video when he realized that he had cheated, after talking to the modder.

this guy clearly hasnt seen the stream lmfao

@@billy6678 what do you mean?

That's what a fanbase full of childrens does to you, he's gonna get away with it.

Someone said (so i don’t know personally) that he had to submit his entire mods/general files from the time that it happened and that the mod team would have found it if he hadn’t removed it before hand meaning it ain’t even an accident lmao

@@joelmarriner487 he basically talked about how the mod was disguised as a chat mod. I’m disappointed in him no doubt and think he should have some repercussion but shitting on someone for dumb arbitrary reasons are a no go no matter who Edit: I’m starting to learn the defiance people have to understand mods and plugins don’t apply the same…

Not to even touch on the dream thing (and sorry for reviving your dead comment) but I just viscerally flashed back to my two cousins and I and when we would play Mario Kart 64 (one was same age as me and one was younger) There was no accident about it that little shit (the younger one) would throw his controller aside and lunge for the reset button on the console if he was losing and be completely unapologetic about it.

​@@manicfreeman8861(not sorry for necro-ing the thread) people who get pissy over reviving threads - especially when a question isn't answered - are obnoxious. I've not seen as much of a stigma for it on here or anywhere *other than* forums where software errors never get fixed and you get told to Google it Irrelevant rant over

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1UV_G5xrEEA.html

mod u mean

i love how that's the best fucking excuse he could come up with "yeah idk the mods downloaded themselves and then activated and setup by themselve aswell, it was pretty weird"

@@-mako-6018 I mean they didn't download themselves, but basically the one who takes care of his mod modified it last minute without dream authorization, yes, the original mod was basically useless

@@typeouetco1626 did he say that in some kind of interview or you're assuming?

and he knew for "a couple months" before posting the pastebin!

@@ic236 yeah! Like stop stroking your ego Dream

the mans got his stans on his side and they'll believe literally anything

Honestly, as someone who also has adhd, it's totally believable that he'd forget to uninstall a plugin or something. I'm not trying to say it's okay, just that it's easy to believe it as accidental.

@@chada4806 I agree that on its own it is totally believable, but then you have to consider that AFTER you have been exposed, how is it possible that it isn't the first thought that comes to your mind the fact that maybe you used your cheating mod you know you have used in other videos, that happens to do exactly what you are being accused of, by mistake? Instead you deny everything, delete your mods folder "by frustration", go hire a mathematician to write a math paper defending you, keep saying for months that it was just luck, and then you remember about your cheating mod 1 year later?

But it *isn't* a big deal. He cheated, but guess what? IT DOESN'T MATTER.

@@skyfire12306 clearly it matters to you if you’re gonna respond lmao

@@skyfire12306 I mean people were sent death threats for calling him a cheater just for him to turn around and go "guess i did cheat mb"

he still has it on this video lookkl at the Minecraft log.

What? Everyone knows that he just wanted his username to be ‘1’ but he added ‘smallant’ because that was already taken

He is no longer number one.

@@kittencorp.3295 yeah, how can people not know it?

He is gaining more subs because people stopped being busy looking for smallant2

@@laplacedex7878found the dream stan who’s crying^^^

@@laplacedex7878 dream stan lol

its clara work, dank it clara

@@laplacedex7878 jeez louise the fanboy is strong in this one

I wonder what Laplace dex said now that he deleted his reply

yeah, its possible to run cheats in one game and play fair in another. Destruction of evidence and denying was also accidental as there was no chance for him to cheat. With such luck he probably was born by accident

​@@ac4694damn that's funny

@@asabad1268 hell yeah, cheats are super fun. Competition gets rekt

he says he deleted the mods folder

@@Genburthinghe tampered with his game logs that he submitted xd

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1UV_G5xrEEA.html

@@whaledog7036 they removed showing dislikes on videos now ._.

It kind of saddened me while watching that, if he had gotten that seed without the mod installed, he might have gotten a new legit PB.

@@xelac1334 i know right

Bad luck on the enderpearls or blazerods could've killed it (Or at least slowed it down enough to negate the saved time), though it does look like a REALLY good seed in terms of everything's locations.

@@icycloud6823 The mod only increases the drop rate from 5% to 15%, so a 3x increase. He said he had over 70 after the trades. Even with less than 1/3rd of those, he would still have gotten over 20 which is way more than you need. You only need about 15 ish on average. Honestly, his run would have only been about a min or two shorter withe the mod turned off, probably around 15 min or so, as the only Mod related RNG he got that REALLY mattered was the Blazerod RNG, as he almost definitely would have gotten enough pearls from the piglins without the mod with this seed. Definitely would have still been a very strong PB.

@@eragon78 that’s not how statistics works lol

His speedrunning skills is better the dream

aeaseaeeaaee

@@zachvermug610 dream himself said there are better speed runners than him

@@arhyllinchroma9062 this man plays Pokémon and is still better at dreams main game than dream.

@@WaywardVector Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Ant's main game was odyssey

Pretty sure it was only the 1 run and like he said accidentally so he probably didnt even realise they were changed

yeah, he "accidentally" downloaded a mod to increase his odds for about everything important

@Theunwantedwings could u source this about 1.15 drop rates? afaik the removal of his run was around splicing in his wr and not that but I'd like to see

Yeah Small Ant went way too easy on dream lol

@@btugvd if he only "accidentally" cheated on the one run, he would have never gotten caught. He only got caught because he kept the mod active during livestreams and math nerds ran the numbers. If he cheated the one run, the "dream was lucky" claim would have worked but Dream would have us believe he averaged one item 3x the drop rate, and one 1.5x the drop rate across 50+ virtually consecutive runs.

Full health too

,

to be fair, this is using strats that are vastly superior to the ones dream was using

@@ciarangale4738 yes but the comparison was made between Ant’s prior runs and the new time he achieved with the cheats. He didn’t compare dreams time at all with his new time.

@@EasterDude 19.25 at 1:04

@cat snake pretty sure you meant eye breakage, but what im trying to say is this all could have happened in any good run. a good run is going to have no meaningful eye breakages, its going to have good rod drops, its gonna have fast pearl drops. the mod simply made these good runs happen more. also, the difference in strats. the advantage it gives is night and day with old strats and new. with old strats, it meant having a higher chance of getting the pearls you need in a timely manner. when used with new strats, it means you get stacks upon stacks of pearls.

Man that must be a safety hazard

The only part that was worth reading 😂

@@analienwithwifi4783 Even if I'm pretty sure you're joking, it's not that much of a safety hazard as long as the phone isn't plugged in to charge (and even then there are multiple things that should save you, GFCI, a properly designed charger, etc)

@@remty516 I mean, you're probably right, but dropping your phone is still a lot of dead presidents down the drain.

@@remty516 It’s a safety hazard for the phone though.

That is probably because it is not debatable, it is basucally known that he used it with his knowledge lmao

You are wrong. Too much drama and heat against you will eventually kill your channel. There might be a loyal following now, but enough negative ratings will make the algorithm drop you and with it most of your fanbase(like the Behind the Meme channel)

@@agamemnonofmycenae5258 I dont think people liked behind the meme like dream

@@NotFine they did, until the drama started.

Tbh I’ve actually had to go the rounds explaining to David Dobrik stans that nearly killing your friends is bad even if it was an accident, I’ll survive Dream cheating on his speedrun

Well… the dream stans will not always be small children.

in that case i accidentally killed 6 kids in my basement

Bush accidentally did 9/11

I accidentally burnt down an orphanage.

But I accidentally burnt down the entire andromeda galaxy

@@tlkfanrwbyfan8716 Good thing the kids are save in MooMooMango's basement

I agree but let's try to keep the drama out of this :)

Dream poopy

Dream downloaded the mod because getting ender pearls and blaze rods was too slow for his videos, so there's no way that he didn't notice the speed difference.

@@NaudVanDalen he actually asked someone to code it for him

@@NaudVanDalen Exactly

*an

nice strawman

Dont take it too far guys. Lol

@@gawesome2376 but thats what dream did

LMFAO- Like a person once said to me, "Fear not the person who wields the fandom, fear the part of the fandom that barely has enough braincells to be sensible." It's a really good quote

It is a bit weird. I get that it is rare for people to admit mistakes on the internet, but this guy denied everything for a year and made the situation worse than it had to be

I've seen a couple stans who are legitimately in denial. Linked the pastebin to one of 'em (clearly didn't read it) and the reply was "lmao he didn't cheat idiot". These people are crazy.

@@dailinelily where quote

As someone who has edited streams for other people, a majority of the time is sifting through the stream to find the more engaging/interesting parts and try to string together a video with them so I imagine it's actually kinda 5head to edit while the events of the stream are fresh in your mind and you know the story you want to tell.

Well duh, smallant is a speedrun legend 😅

@@Fiemus9 small ant first sub 10??

Yeah. If even with the mod Dream couldn't get under 15 mins and Small Ant could, I think he's better.

@@bestpriest2224 what is bastion strats?

@@jamesrustles8670Do you think this is google?

Unfortunately, physics exams contain 0 randomness outside of the exact numbers used in the questions, so having this kind of luck probably won't help much.

@@angeldude101 ª

Good luck on your exam!! I hope you pass

@@angeldude101 You may be able to find a copy of the answer sheet if you’re lucky enough

yeah photomath really helped with my "luck" on my math final

Lol yeah

i mean he's still doing this to make a point about the drama, he's just not actively gonna waste time arguing a bunch

Lol true lol

@@turmspitzewerk He isn't making any point. "the mod makes it way easier" isn't an opinion, it's the reason there's drama in the first place.

Hey man, it looks like you retracted your replies to me, I assume because maybe you saw the pastebin thing. No hard feelings, but in case you didn’t see it - it’s still up and you can view it. He didn’t include any drop rates in it. I just assume that this isn’t the same mod, but instead a similar mod just because the drop rates seem even more exaggerated than Dream’s speed run in question. Although he obviously cheated and had much better luck than he should have, I don’t remember it being THIS good. Like, I don’t remember dream ever having a ridiculous amount of pearls or eyes like that. This dude filled up his inventory with them in a couple mins, which I don’t remember happening in Dream’s speed run. Either way, entertaining video for sure.

I realized this too lmao

I'm not defending Dream, but this seed is packed. This could've been a possible near world record seed right here. Even if he had no cheats on, he could get a really decent time.

@@thevirtualpug3d868 Yes, but dream had many many attempts, his best of which had great seeds too. Its not like he cheated for just one run

That would be funny

Hell yea

YES

Everyone always complains about RNG anyway, why not remove it?

This is unironically a good idea tbf. Takes some of the BS luck out of it, makes it more appealing to do, and more skill based.

And I then proceed to write a ten-page long apology letter in the bath

Aren't his 1.15 runs being looked at now?

@@captainswagger2838 Was removed earlier that day before he wrote the apology.

Its the lashing out at people who are doing their jobs for me.

@@ryanhernandez1877 writing a 10 page essay in my bathtub at 4 am challenge

While the mods provided solid proof that his runs weren't on an unmodified version of Minecraft. He could've just straight up said "oopsie woopsie, was making a video for RU-vid forgot to remove the mod, please disregard the times" and he'd have been fine. But here we are, though it was fun to see statistics suddenly become incredibly interesting to a bunch of people.

Assuming that at the time Dream's main theme was "MC with a twist" it makes sense that he might have forgot to remove that mod. However I agree that this isn't an excuse to the fact that he cheated. Like, if you are speedrunning a game where certain rules apply, then it's your duty to check that you don't break any.

He had the mod on for his manhunts and thought it was server side instead of client side

"unknowingly" cheated by "accident" thats why he refused to share he's logs when they asked for it at the start of all this xD

"Sir you drove over a playground and squashed 6 children" "Yes but it was an accident, i didnt mean to drive"

@@kevanbeckstead6036 Yes. But that leaves out the *literal months* he spent arguing that he didn't cheat and hiring some astrophysicist clown to write up a 30 page paper on why it's possible he didn't cheat.

Had he just said it was an accident from the start, I could of believed his story. I cant anymore after all that's happened since he was called out.

edit: funny how I'm getting more hate for expressing the same opinion that karl jobst expressed in his newest video. Smants reaction is not the best way to compare, as smants fully knows he had increased rates and was doing this for a video. I also believe dream and smants did different strats. Dream never used a bastion, instead he mined gold in the nether. This means instead of getting pearls all at once, it would take while to mine gold then trade and then mine more gold.

@@alien3698 believing every word Dream says is not an argument.

@@schwarz8614 Not providing any reasoning is not an argument. IDK what your even trying here, please feel free to respond with actual defensible claims rather than just unbacked "claims".

@@PopeMical right he wouldve been much more respected and all the drama wouldn't have happened.

Yeah and that's why I avoid having an argument with them cause they're more stupid than me

They're just morons

@smelly paws imagine defending dream

so true lol

How dare you call me out like this

@Logan Smith seems sus

Verification poggers

ah yes, brands looking for clout

Especially since he's had a birthday in almost every one of his streams

@@melo0611 Why the hell do you think all youtubers that comment look for clout, sure, some do but not all

would not happen ever considering Dream is at that point where he is too big too fail. Also Twitch probably does not care much about the speedrunning community.

@@oyah999 Twitch does not run the speedrunning community or the sites they use to monitor scores, the site should perma ban him from submitting any times to their platform basically.

Not that I don't agree with the sentiment but just because something happened at a twitch trivia game doesn't mean it applies literally anywhere else

Same dude

Same

Dream is gonna get cancelled eventually, when the rest of the secrets come out. Don't take my word for it though, just wait. He's got a lot of skeletons in his closet.

how would he ever ACCIDENTALLY put a mod that slighlty incrementing the chance of dropping specific items for such a long time? of course he's lying, it's just that he doesn't and will never have the balls to truly admit it.

Do you have any proof of the last two claims? :/

I dont know where to put myself between: dream stan | believing he cheated intentionally I believe that Dream did accidentally cheat, but didnt have the guts to say it worried that he might get canceled. I mean, if I were in his situation, I would shit myself knowing I accidentally cheated. I would've done more action faster though like removing my speedrun, trying to do another one, publicly apologizing, stuff like that. It is kinda Dream's fault, but also not. I dont know to be honest

@@tsunerei If you believe that for even a second then you are actually stupid, dude. He claimed for months that he didn't even know how to HYPOTHETICALLY load a mod or datapack that would do this exact thing. When he was literally a programmer before a youtuber, and had mods for this all along for his other content. Also, other professional minecrafters noticed this discrepancy literally while watching his runs live. You think Dream, someone highly experienced in minecraft speedrunning who specifically *complained about 1.16 RNG* wouldn't have noticed across 6 streams after coming back to 1.16 that his luck was completely insane? Wouldn't have even thought to investigate it before he (a) submitted the run, and (b) spent literally two months from October to December (before geosquare's video even came out!!) harassing the mods and accusing them of clout-chasing? He is obviously a chronic liar and anyone who still doesn't see it is either 12 or a moron. Edit: to be clear, smallant is not 12 or a moron, he is literally just pretending to believe Dream so that he doesn't get death threats from Dream's absolutely toxic fanbase.

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it wouldn't be in the main Minecraft Java Edition boards but it would be in the Minecraft modded/datapacks board that was created for other mods used in MC speedruns

Dream doesnt even deserve that to be named after him. Hes a cheat and his fans still try to make excuses for him even tho he admitted to cheating himself. After all the drama is over, hopefully people will realise how bad he actually is at speedrunning. He had a 7 second lead over ant even when he was using cheats

@monc hilqs Let's not forget he hired a fucking scientist to manipulate statistics and defend his case with a 30 page report of BS, a scientist who probably told him the evidence overwhelmingly pointed towards him cheating, and not once he asked himself "oooh it's probably my multiplayer mod which happens to change drop rates to the exact same rates found in the moderator's report that is tampering with my shit, I should probably come clean". Dude's just straight up lied and is still lying

As someone outside of the Minecraft community who mostly gets his updates on speedrun community drama from Karl Jobst, I bothered to read Dream's entire text. So as someone who's neutral to it, it gives me the impression of a dude who let his ego and emotions get the better of him and burnt bridges and trust in the process. Which I can relate to on a human level because afaik Dream got incredibly popular within a short span of time and that can screw with everyone's mindset. Part of human psychology, really. Note I said relate, not excuse, those are two different things, he still effed up hard. So yeah, I believe him when he says it's an accident and he let his emotions cloud his critical thinking. And I also say he should stay away from speedrunning any game for at least a year because time needs to pass now to cool everybody down, and after that there will still be reasonable doubt cast on him if he tries to speedrun again and I can't blame the speedrun mods for having doubt in the future. Right now, neither being a fanboy or being a hater helps the situation.

And essentially thousands upon thousands of runs, obviously working with his Mods folder inbetween for modded minecraft videos, never noticing the cheat

Perfect seed glitchless and set seed gltchless are kinda like that

Moxie the legend

Oh yes we are( also before anybody says I am commenting on a verified yt cause he verified, I don’t even know the guy , and his comment is genuinely creative , and just nice and simple )

MOXIE *notice**me* *senpi*

@@rozo292 imo you don’t need the whole justification in parentheses thing. just comment on whatever you want to comment on. It’s a yt comment section it don’t really matter

You’re not wrong Mox - lets goooo

Didn't the speedrunner admins ask for his game files? He must've "accidentally" removed the mod from the files before sending.

@@freshlymemed5680 He did in fact claim to have accidentally removed the mod. Dream said he is always messing with his mods folder and that by the time the moderators asked for his folder he'd already changed things. Pretty convenient. 🙄

Gotta love how he "accidentally" used a mod. After doing all the shit he did to "prove" he didn't cheat before entertaining the slight possibility of a mod altering his chances. No fucking way he didn't cheat on purpose. It's honestly disgusting that people still defend him for this.

Dream is living in some old ass house with lead water pipes

He said the mod was server side which if that was the case why would he need it in his clients mods folder

Small part of me thinks it was accidental and he's just a complete and utter moron. Randomly posting that tells me it either crept up on his conscience or he found out a day before and was like "well...shit". Just seems odd to me since he could have kept the illusion up for as long as he wanted but he didn't. Just a weird situation all round.

@A B yea but that's the thing. A bunch of people definitely believed he had mods but I like many were already over it. People were obviously still memeing about it but the amount of people still going after him about it would be ridiculously small. Coming clean out of the blue just doesn't strike me as the right play if he was 100% lying. It's weird man.

@@ruxis2563 he's just bringing it up again for clout

@@ruxis2563 maybe it wasn’t how many people didn’t care anymore instead it was who still did care.

he said accidental cuz he didnt want a drama to start in the comments, yet it still happened

oops, accidently liked your comment my bad

@@daswasich1147 oops i accidentally responded to you, sorry

@@gatex33d74 oops I accidnetally responded to your response that wasn't for me

@@AIRYHFJONEIRL oops i accidentally responded to your response which was responding to another response.

@@AstroBlakeD oops i accidnetally forgot I commented

Easy way to restart in a permadeath world without having to delete the file.

@@billy6678 everyone knew he cheated expect his stans

@@StarLightSkyish I'm just glad that I'm not a fan anymore, the cheating scandal saved me from becoming a stan

@@billy6678 the “astrophysicist” was not very competent anyway; there were many great critiques of the paper, one by another particle physicist which you can read in the link appended to the next reply.

@@billy6678 Link to the critique: www.reddit.com/r/statistics/comments/kiqosv/d_accused_minecraft_speedrunner_who_was_caught/ggse2er/?context=3

@@billy6678 and got bullied by other professional physicists and mathmagicians!

You forgot this step before commenting: do research

@@ih2792 you forgot another step: admit that there is too much proof to say that you didnt cheat