So I bought an RTX 4090 for 1080p gaming... 

So I bought a rocket for my toilet.

4K Ultra High Settings ❌ 1080P Ultra High settings ✅

The only insane thing about the 4090 is the price people are willing to pay. IMO.

As a guy who grew up poor and with no family, I had a crappy 2gb ram dx9 igpu laptop, barely playing GTA SA at 20ish fps. Now that I'm more fonancially stable, I bought an RTX 3070 laptop and my friends laugh at how I still play some games sub 1080p. Some things never change and I'm a glutton for crappy visuals lmao.

now do 480p

2016: $380 GTX 1070 for 144fps 1080p native ultra. 2023: $1600 RTX 4090 for 144fps 720p upscaled to 1080p with interpolated frames. Being happy about 70fps dips at upscaled 720p on a $1600 gpu is just crazy to me. Edit: Since people can't seem to understand my comment, I'll explain it. In 2016, you only needed to pay $380 for a GPU guaranteed for 120+ frame rate at 1080p ultra for triple A title games released within that generation. In 2023, you need to pay $1000-$1800 to reach that performance target for triple A titles of this generation, and even still, a game like Cyberpunk that was released 3 years BEFORE the 4090, cannot achieve 144fps in 1080pMax on a 4090 without the use of AI. So, who do we BLAME? The game developers? NVIDIA and AMD? The blame goes on the consumer! We keep buying up these standards. Nvidia and AMD release the 40 series and 7000 series, where the only performances gains are in the high end market, because we'll buy them anyway. Developers are lazy and don't work on optimizating games, because they know we'll buy them anyway. It's not about DLSS, or FSR, frame generation AI crap, it's that the pc gaming industry saw how truly desperate the community is for the products during COVID and the semi-conductor shortage, and then matched their marketing to satisfy that enormous demand. They've been riding out the same wave for 4 years now. Hell, AMD literally said that they won't be making high end cards next generation. They don't need to! They're so satisfied with the amount of demand and desperation we show them, to where they only need to work on worse product to increase profit overhead.

i think the ideal screen size is ultrawide 1440p. a little bit less demanding than 4k, and more immersive (imo)

7950x3d + 4090 has been an amazing combo for me for 1440p 144hz gaming as well as for VR. Definitely recommend an x3d chip for gaming with the 4090.

I was looking for such a video the entire weekend. To see, I'm not the only person, who is in general aiming high fps 1080p with my newly arrived 4090 (I'll do use it mainly for work), but I have to aggree, never had such a great experience and smooth gameplay with these titles! Thanks for the video!

Those micro stutters could be due to the frame timing aka the time inbetween each frame thats produced. Try rivatuner to alternately cap your fps as Rivatuner's fps cap (has a setting to fix screen tearing as well) tightens the time inbetween frames making it suuuuper smooth

I think people forget just how mind-bogglingly, stupidly fast new GPU's like the 4090 are. Half of these games should be easily pushing 200+ FPS WITHOUT frame gen or DLSS. Unfortunately, modern games completely brush off game optimization like it's nothing because they think these new technologies and cards can handle it... they can, but these should ONLY be supplemental, not a reliance.

For a 4090, 1440p is totally doable at high frame rates. I've got a 4090 and a 7900X3D and the only game that I need to use DLSS is cyberpunk with PT. Without DLSS it can run natively, but there's some dips. My monitor goes to 265hz at 1440p so in more competitive games, dropping the graphics gets you the framerate with no issue, while in more story focused games I aim for 100 ish.

I get similar framerates at 4K in Plague Tale on the same settings. CPU bottleneck literally means that your GPU is sitting there idle so your pretty much capping your frames regardless. Anything less then 1440P and you're literally wasting GPU power. You would probably get comparable framerates at 1080P even with lower spec cards since at that point they'd be running closer to 100% utilization across both metrics.

Man, that is just disrespectful. I got the 7900 XTX 5 months ago and I'm still adding high-end equipment to my setup. When my 50" 120Hz super ultrawide monitor arrives next week, my life will be complete for 5 minutes.

Its like buying a supercar to drive around a karting circuit.

After around a year of using a 4k monitor, it's extremely hard to go back to something like 1080p, to the point where it doesn't matter what kind of graphics you're running, since it will just look pixelated no matter what (though youtube makes it look much worse than it would look in person as well). That being said, I was somehow expecting higher frame rates, and when you said let's see how it runs without frame generation, it was shocking, since I was thinking that was the native fps lmao.

I think the 4090 is a 4k monster, the 4080 is a 1440p monster, the 4070 a 1080p monster and the 4060 a 720p monster

Dayum recently I bought a 3060ti for 720p gaming as well it can really pull 30fps effortlessly 😊

1440p > 1080p I have eyes of a 70-year-old man. 1080p is starting to look blurry to me. Especially on games with large maps.

It's like buying a porsche 911 to buy groceries and never take it to the track

nfs has a really optimized proprietary engine that handles mulithreading like no other engine. Note how all of the workload of the game was eavenly spread between all of the 32 threads you have resuling in maxing out the gpu all the time.

Great video, Jay

If I had an RTX 4090 I would prefer 1440p 144hz gaming too, I think 4k is awesome for playing above 42 inches

Bro, this is absolutely me. I bought an RTX 3090 in 2021 to play VR and flatscreen games in 1080p, or triple screen 1080p... always at 60hz. It's a fever dream and I love it.

We should all do this more, 1080p is normal, I mean, we all watch 1080p videos most of the time on internet anyway. Or at least 1440p, but not 4k, it's great, but not necessary.

The future looks so bright. Just imagine where we’ll be five years from now.

I concur, I also prefer 1080p at higher frames vs 1440p/4K at lower frames.

Borderlands 3 Fog Quality is like a FPS killer like no joke from low to high u can achieve like a 60/80fps difference. idk why.

i got a 4090 like 2 weeks ago and cyberpunk at 1440p ultrawide is ridiculous. i love it.

0:24 I thorougly enjoyed the content that started at that point in time. Thank You.

1440p is the best i think the quality will increase a lot and the fos won t be mediocre btw i love that i found someone who have this idea i feel 4k isn t that important

Thank you for making this video! It’s something ive always had on mine but never had the resources to buy the very best, it would be amazing for you to try even lower resolutions!

I'm using the 5950x as well... I find the main game threads tank the CPU on a couple of Cores and that holds the whole thing up

This is literally me in 2015 buying a gtx Titan X graphics card for 1000+ euro only to have it run like garbage because the rest of my pc was bad

rtx 4090 and stays on 144hz?!?! bro 1080p 360hz why get that good of a card?

wtf i thought this was 1 mil view video with how well edited this is!

when you decide to play on a 4k 65inch tv with a custom-made widescreen aspect ratio, you'll never want to go back to 1080p

am i the only one unimpressed? DLSS + Framegen on a 2K GPU and Plague tale runs at an average of around 140 with dips as low as 100fps at like 100% utilization. i'm more impressed that any other card can run it adequately if anything

Quality ..It's not about the highest fps we can achieve but how consistent it can be maintained.

this is why game devs make the game super unoptimized, they make it for 1080p with 4090

I'm at 1440p 155hz, and it's amazing. I had a feeling right from the start that even the juggernaut 4090 was gonna be a 1440p card if you like graphics AND framerates. Sometimes I have too much GPU and my i9 9900k is CPU limited, but not all the time-and with the advent of UE5, the card will still get solid FPS on Ultra at native, even when maxed out. The next upgrade will be a cutting-edge CPU and RAM. Eventually I'd like to experience 240hz in games that allow, and "next-gen" stuff will still run smooth, but probably closer to 120.

High quality video, but sadly it deserve much more views

Here's the thing with literally every high end gpu that comes out. I don't think its that unspeakably dumb to use 4090 at 1080p because some day.. say 6 or 7 years from now were going to probably look back and say "Yeah the 4090 is a great used option for 1080p gaming"

To be honest,you did a right thing. I personally bought 4060ti,but decided to stay at 1080p,so i won't have to upgrade my hardware over and over again because of res being too high. Gives me 100-144+ fps in Cyberpunk on ultras + rt ultra on with FG and DLSS,and it's with the fact that i haven't upgraded my cpu yet and it's heavily bottlenecked.

The cpu and gpu in my brain is doing an amazing job of letting me interact with this reality at 24K.

Well you can play at this resolution for another 9-10 years or 1440p for 6-7 years. So I'd say it's a well earned investment.

I just want so say how polished your videos are. I looking forward for more content like this :)

I’ve tried 60 hz and 240 hz and really don’t care enough to go beyond 60fps. But holy shit 4k is incredible compared to 1080p. 1080p just looks super blurry to me now . OLED is absolutely insane as well. I’d rather take 4k OLED 60hz over 1080p 500hz any day of the week, but to each his own

this is the way. literally set for life with a 4090 at 1080

I think we should have stopped the chase for the "best graphics" a long time ago. Anything has barely progressed since 2015 when it comes to visual quality, and since then it's only become more lunatic the amount of resources you need on your computer to even get a passable framerate and even storage

i love the cam replacement you're using , the cat that reacts to your inputs is pretty clever ngl

I found the jump from 1440p monitor to 4K 144Hz actually not that drastic. Most games I play stay over 144fps at 4K, most settings on high. Forza Horizon for example I got 190fps at 1440p but 160 at 4K and looks SO much nicer and sharper. Got the Gaming X Trio 4090.

I understand why people say 8k and 4k gaming performance is a waste to focus on in 90% of cases but... you also have to remember VR. VR requires super super high resolutions at 90FPS or higher. the better the resolutions at high FPS the bettter VR can become. I play VR and I just bought a 3060 but now I need a new PSU so I can actually use the card, that should give me 1440p easily for my headset at 90FPS (in most titles and depending on graphics settings) which is super exciting.

The Borderlands 3 benchmark always stutters in the same spot all the time, but during game play, it's super smooth.

So far I've been able to crank almost every game i play to max settings 1080p with just a rtx 3070 and a Ryzen 7600x Usually 120fps - 144fps. Games such as helldivers 2, horizon zero dawn, horizon forbidden west, jedi survivor, etc have all run max settings at 120fps+

This was such a great video!!! That intro tho!!! 😂

You NEED to enable DLDSR! It'll be even more beautiful and still get insane FPS!

The 4090 is such a ridiculous GPU... 😂 Cyberpunk 2077 2.0/Phantom Liberty DLC test at 4K! - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vS48ZWsK39A.html Like the video if you enjoyed, and subscribe if you're new! 🤍

1440p looks the same as 1080p to me 🤔

A 4090, though they are inconsistent, can do high settings at 4k and still get over 100 fps

You could also try playing at 1440p with FSR so its like running it at 1080p but at a higher resolution.

Thanks for posting this. I have 12700k, a 1080p monitor and my 4090 is on its way to me now. I'm gonna do it just like you, ultra settings with ultra FPS. LOL Obs.: yeah, eventually I'll get a 1440p monitor. And F' 4k monitors!! haha

Those micro stutters are because you didn't do any OS optimizing, or latency reduction aimed setti gs changes in your os. It takes a few hours to do even if you know what ur doin to accomplish but your fps would raise 10-30% still. My 3070 with i7 7700k does nearly as good at 1080p but no stutters lol. Use latencymon to view your system latency and don't stop learning about reducing system latency till you see 5-50ms overall system latency. And don't forget to use regedit to get the default windows data queue on your mouse and keyboard to reduce the data queue from default windows settings of 100 down to 5-16ms or else u have minimum up to 100ms input lag

Investing in a 4090 for a channel your size is wild. I feel like most 4090 sales are from small content creators and streamers 😂

I know some of these games are extreme examples, but getting below 200 fps with this setup at 1080p native is criminal, this setup should push 180fps consistently with no upscaling at this resolution.

4k is just too glorious for me to ever want to go back to 1440p even if the 4090 starts struggling

Just got one from a 2070 super, the super was good but at 1440p it ls average was pretty much low 40s to mid 60s. And if you turned rtx on it basically halfed that. But these games are all 100+ fps and then drop to 60 - 80 with rtx in most titles

Upgrading your RAM to DDR5 would help with bringing up average FPS and your 1% lows as long as its stable. Some games can use more than 32GB of RAM too which will cause unnoticeable microstutters. In testing it will affect your 0.1% lows but you wouldn't really notice in actual gameplay. That said, it's good to know what works and what doesn't. AMD does not support DDR5 8000 yet, and only goes up to 5600 if I'm not mistaken. Maybe 6000 MT/s DDR5 can be utilized by high-end Ryzen systems, but I'm just going off memory right now. I read an OC3D article about it.

this is kinda interesting since most people dont test this card at 1080p

how to push a 4090 to its limit: beamng, ultra, 1440p and crank the extreme graphics mod to max everything. absolute graphical torture

Pro-tip: if you sit on 1080p, you don't need something like 3090 or 4090 to get 100 fps in the latest AA or AAA titles. Even 4060, 3060 or even 20XX will be plenty without dlss. If you want to update your PC, here's the instruction: 1) If you don't have 16 gigs of RAM - update RAM first, you can even go with DDR3 sticks if your motherboard doesn't support it 2) See how powerful your power unit, if it's less than 600V - I recommend updating it (of course, the targeted CPU/GPU combination also matters) 3) After you done with first two, get a new GPU. 3060ti or 3080 are great for how much they cost. If you can do a test of a used GPU before buying - do so by all means, mined 30XX series can be a real deal when it comes to price/performance as long as they're in decent condition 4) Finally, update your CPU and possibly motherboard 5) If you haven't done 1 or have DDR3 - time to update RAM

With an OLED tv with BFI setting maxed (or a CRT/Plasma TV or VR headset), 60FPS has the motion clarity equivalent of 150FPS on a regular PC gaming monitor. At 120hz, it's equivalent to 250FPS of motion clarity. I'm saying this because most gaming monitors have no BFI or strobbing mode. So it always makes me laugh when people claim to be framerate snobs but only understand the numbers and miss out on the whole aspect of how the human eye sees those frames and how you can make games looks even smoother with a simple trick without requiring a 4090 or fake AI frames or bad motion smoothing.

When the 4090 is at 1080p it doesn’t use all its power source your not going to get insane frames sometimes I get even more fps on 1440p in certain games

I have a 4090 that I manually overclocked and I always play on 1080p. There are still some early access games that I play that still manage to run like complete fucking dog shit.

Okay so an insanely high fps in any game at the highest resolution with extremely detailed textures is ideal for a good gaming experience in my opinion as a casual single player completionist however you need to be careful as the game engine it's self is not designed to run the game at such a high fps. Idk about modern game engines capabilities but take a game like gta 5. You have to limit the game to 120fps because anything higher you start to get huge stuttering, buggy textures, in game bugs and glitches and game breaking things start to happen and can lead to the game just crashing. I hope the Unreal engine can handle a very high fps as this engine is obviously the future of modern gaming imo.

Honestly, I'm pretty much with you. I want to play at 1440p though. I just got a 4080 super and it's great. Maxxing it most games at native 1440p with fps above 90 is amazing. It's what I've always wanted

“We’re doing it for science boys” No 0.1% No frame time Good shit lol

just you wait, in another 3 to 5 years everything in videogames will be dynamic and interactable. It's crazy to think that we went from super mario to this in a few decades.

What's actually "insane" to me is that everywhere with DLSS "Quality" is actually rendered at 720p.. upscaled... I feel like 720p ultra at 70ish FPS isn't as impressive as it sounds

I mean if u monetized this video you’ve basically paid it off by now

This is something I would do since 1080p is fine for me. I've never used a 1440p or 4K monitor.

If I had a 4090 and a 1080p monitor, I'd use 4x DSR so games run at 4k internally and then get downscaled for display. This provides THE best anti-aliasing possible. I do this with my 1050 ti on reaaaaally old games.

Doesn't seem like you're even getting that many frames for 4090. Crazy.

"So i bought a jet to go to the local supermarket"

I never understood the appeal of 1080p gaming in 2024 until yesterday. I tried 1080p with my 4070ti super and was shocked by the low latency.

hey mr jays. it looks like you doubled ur sub count in 3 weeks thats amazing. im seeing all the bad comments and i want to say keep it up man. i have the 4090 and play super ultra wide at 1440 by 5120 and can tell you i get 240 fps in a lot of classic games like kf2 and siege and even in vr! youll love the xperience just dont upgrade every generation like i do. i waste a lot of money doing so. anyway keep it up!

I did experienced CPU Bottleneck few years ago on BFV ( i7 4770 / GTX 1070 / 1080p) , i lowered the graphics to get to 144fps but it would push the CPU to 100% and cause some freezes so i raised graphics to cut a bit of load on the CPU, dropping down to 80/90 fps and i was fine. On NFS you said if was pretty much CPU bounded, and we could see that most game you played CPU was running around 30/40%, and on NFS you were around 70%. So i guess unless your CPU goes up to 100% you're not CPU Bottleneck, the reason you're not getting much more fps than 4080 etc is probably related to the fact that these GPU were engineered and optimized for higher resolution.

when it comes to 1080p and 1440p gaming , 4080 performs relatively the same as 4090. 4k gaming is where 4090 shines really. You could of gotten 4080 which is much more available and cheaper , it would achieve the same results.

We have 8k displays and we can’t even play higher than 1080p we are stuck at 1080p for 10plus years now!

So 4090 performance level on my 165Hz FHD monitor is not a bad idea 85-90% of GPU load without that upscale crap means that it almost on its limit will wait for 5080 or maybe 6070 if they will offer the performance of 4090 without robbing a bank

everyone wants 1080p highest fps possible but never came to consider 1366x768 :(

First I thought it was Nvidia CEO who just bought a laptop with 4090. I was thinking man is that all he can afford?

I have some advices. I have Ryzen 5800X, 32GB RAM, RTX 3080 12GB and 1080p@144Hz monitor (actually three monitors, I used to play on all three for sim racing before moving to VR). Do yourself a favor and go to Nvidia Control Panel - Manage 3D Settings - Global Settings - DSR Factors. The ones with DL Scaling use DLDSR, the ones with Legacy scaling use normal DSR. It lets you use higher resolutions on 1080p monitor - you just can select higher reslution in games settings with Fullscreen enabled. For me it shows that 1440p and 1620p use DLDSR and other resolutions (like 4K) are normal DSR. I still play most games in 1080p, but there are some exceptions which have terrible aliasing (for example some of older Unreal Engine 4 games) and I prefer to play them in 2160p locked at 60 FPS (or more if I have some performance room) to reduce the aliasing. With RTX 4090 you can probably have high FPS with these settings. If you'll like it, a video about it would be nice, as not many people know about these settings. Another thing - good GPU is great for VR gaming and I'd love to get a card with performance similar to RTX 4090 just to play VR games at max settings, including VR mods for "flat" games. Some mods support VR controlers, some just let you play with an xbox controller/keyboard and mouse (like VR mod for Cyberpunk). People rarely go and buy a VR headset on a whim, so I won't go further into details, unless you'd like to. Also worth mentioning - if you care about temperatures, undervolting GPU is also a good idea. I have a slight undervolt on my GPU and my performance is just a little worse (like 3-5 FPS less in Cyberpunk on max settings with Path Tracing and Ray Reconstruction, 1080p DLSS Quality, but I'm still at 60 FPS most of the time), but the card uses around 100W less than on stock settings. During summer it helped me keep my room temperature at a reasonable level. For single player, locking FPS to your monitor refresh rate is also good, especially when you're CPU limited - it will also keep your CPU temperatures down. I usually do that per game basis - if there's an option in game, I have V-sync disabled, but Max framerate limit set to 144 FPS. I also have G-Sync enabled in Nvidia Control Panel, so you don't see that much of a difference if the game runs below your monitor refresh rate and it feels bad for me without G-Sync when it happens.

What does "bottlenecked" mean and why does it matter? Those graphics are nicer and clearer than looking out my window.

why use DLSS in quality at 1080p? Use DLAA or DLSS at 100% res scaling(what DLAA does), you are just bottlenecking the cpu more by dropping resolution with Quality DLSS 😅

if you hit 144+fps on 1080p you're arguably hitting a more smooth and detailed image than 4k or 1440p at 30fps, i just dont understand why people craze over it.

Alan Wake 2 says hi.

I got a 4080 for 4k gaming. If this video card pricing trend continues, I'll go back to a curved samsung 1080p display and keep 1080p gaming with my 4080.

I bought 3090 to play Skyrim in 1080p and I have 28 fps

I never understand people who go "I want the highest settings, the max settings" Then turn on DLSS which removes anti-aliasing which removes smooth edges.. of .. everything.