So I Gave the Dracthyr Evoker a Chance... 

Does it excite you, the idea of a Dracthyr whispering into your ear and licking your face?

Imagine if the Dracthyr had the DK class option. One of the customization options would have to be a choice to look like a frost wyrm (nothing but bones and blue energy)

I don’t see myself playing Evoker or rolling as a Dracthyr, but I appreciate that they’re built the way they are. It proves to me that the WoW engine is finally capable of mixing up the ability and traversal mechanics, and there’s a likelihood of applying those changes to other classes, like actual flying demon hunters, spell intensity ratioed to mana consumption for arcane mages and holy priests, variable AoE so a frost DK can actually do that phase transition blizzard in the LK fight like a badass and so on.

Murlocs playable race when

I like the unique class-race combo, but they need to develop a second class for Dracthyr. If you pick that class, you get the beefy body type. And its more of a melee dragonkin warrior kind of a deal , but with its own unique dragon-melee-wombo-combo abilities.

On one hand, always wanted to play as a humanoid Dragon On the other, so did the degenerates

I suppose the evokers are fine enough, it's just not the class I would have preferred... I'm old-fashioned. I want the necromancer and the sapper/tinker. Old-school Warcraft classes and ones that would spark interest from established players.

I am a caster lover and I like dragons, so this fantasy is exactly what I'm looking for. I can't wait to fly all about, whizzing around the battlefield through the air raining death on my enemies!

I just wish the invoker could be a tank and be completely black dragon flight themed and have the spec be called warder to fit with all the earth protection themed spells and ability’s involved with the black dragons and the magma esk damaging spells. Come on blizzard I just want to finally have a chain mail wearing tank.

Just remember guys that they'll be able to play other classes later down the road. Ion confirmed that it's on the cards but it doesn't match the class fantasy for the beginning of the expansion, which makes sense. Also as a caster I'm very glad to finally have a caster hero class.

After watching videos on the Evoker, I'm even more convinced they should revisit old classes and bring more fun and mobility to those classes. Modern WoW feels like an action rpg these days with dated tab targeting. This highly mobile, skill shotting class looks like a mage out of League of Legends.

Coming from a (mostly fire) mage main, Evoker dps honestly looks like main material based on the alpha footage I have seen this far. It just looks like a... more modern version of mage. Unless the mage talent tree blows me away and they do something really cool with the class, I am maining this.

Drakthyr/Evoker would've been much cooler if you could have your "visage" form be any currently available race with all currently available customization options plus more, as well as cool dragon-exclusive options like horns. Seeing Alexstrasza's new model makes me salty for what we could have had instead of these weird generic fantasy/Star Trek alien people that don't look at all like Warcraft. Then, have your dragon form be dependent on your role. If they made a tank spec, have the combat forms available be the General Drakisath variety and the bipedal Drakonid variety. A melee spec could use the Drakonid or Overlord Wyrmthalak male and female varieties. Casters could use the Overlord Wyrmthalak male and female varieties. I would also have liked the option to not use the dragon form at all and instead fight in a cool humanoid Alexstrasza-quality mortal form. Obviously they would also have drake or dragon flight forms like druids. Their other dragon forms could also function similarly to how druids can change forms. The fact that the very first day the Drakthyr were revealed, someone photoshopped the Drakthyr to be beefier the way everyone would've wanted them tells you that either no one at Blizzard is part of the actual audience for the game, or they knew people would want that and actively chose not to add it because these days the San Francisco types running the game don't like the reality of sexual dimorphism or something. As Drakthyr are now, I have no interest in playing one. Maybe I could give my Drakthyr's visage form some eyebrows, and a hairstyle that covers up the stupid ugly Star Trek alien scaly skin, but there's no getting around that I'd be forced to look at that dumb dragon form in combat, and I don't care to at all.

They should really add empowered abilities to the other classes. For example, how about if you empower colossus smash it turns into warbreaker? Or empowered pyroblast becoming greater pyroblast and freeing it from being PvP-only?

Whether you love 'em or hate 'em you have to admit they have raised the bar _significantly_ on character customization in this game. I hope the other races can get the same treatment.

Any class that doesn’t start at level 1 is of no interest to me.

I would 100% play this Race/class if was a warrior/dragon, this idea of Race/class was everything I wanted for the worgen, like the werewolf in ESO, but the moment I saw the model and the class I was realy, realy sad.

Lets be honest! By now we all know Blizz passed a long time ago the moment when they used to create content base on Warcraft lore, to create lore to base content on. And in such an incredible unspired and rush way

Evoker, gameplay wise, looks like a more engaging mage and only makes me wish mage was that exciting looking. Agree entirely with your thoughts on the class fantasy and dragons.

I really really really dont want to play as a TWINK DRAGON

I would have loved if dracthyr could have been tanks as well, maybe combined with close combat, so we could have two caster specs and one close combat spec. I definitely want to try them out when I get to play them, but I am a bit afraid I won't like them because I don't enjoy playing other caster classes. Also I plan on making myself a bronze dragon, because time boys rock and time lost protodrake mount will forever haunt me, this is a cry for help.

The opening to this video made me realize that Goldshire inn is going to be a terrifying place soon.

I agree with 100% of the points you've made. Also, let's be honest, 90% of Dracthyr players won't do a badass black dragon but a drag queen. Edit : also I would have loved if Dracthyr looked like Eranog, the first datamined boss of the first Dragonflight raid. The new Evoker class is pretty lackluster imo, it looks like a mix between a mage and a chaman. I would have prefered if Dracthyr could play basic classes like other races. Imagine playing a badass Drakonid warrior or Drakonid rogue or Drakonid warlock... Instead we got discount mage drag queen.

Yes. Please MORE people comment on the face scales "off" option not being fully off so blizz will fix it. No cheek, chin, or forehead scales plz.

I want to be able to make a jaw like Deathwing. Their faces look like the face of the dragon from Shrek.

Same here, large hulking and tall male black dragon as a warrior would have been fantastic. 6:38 ...Flying looks fun though. 5:33 This sounds like a good idea BTW 7:15

Is there going to be a book called The Lusty Dracthyr Maid?

People's reaction to Devastation has been pretty mid overall, but most people I've seen, myself included, LOVE Preservation. They made it feel unique and insanely fun, they nailed it with the healing spec. I was in the same boat in thinking they looked weird and wasn't planning on really touching them other than my initial try-out, but I actually like how mine turned out and Preservation is great.

Completely agree with 5 spec for each dragon kind.. that would be awesome and for roleplay purposes.. and it would damn make lore sense...

As a healer, i am excited to have a new healer spec, though I must admit my main grip with Evoker and Drakthyr is the fact that you just have default armor in your dragon form as opposed to wearing gear you are wearing.

I would like to see a time line of nixxiom beeing a descendant of beawolf.

I think them being evokers only with launch makes sense from a lore perspective. Be kind of cool if they can figure out a way to get other classes on them but still maintain the aspect fantasy tied to them. Instead of just slapping existing classes to them. Like different spell visuals at least. Also nothing wrong with furries. Just go to Anthrocon and see how much Pittsburgh loves em next year. :D

Should of said "more like Drac Queen" for the puns. Unless you did and I just not hear well. Also, if my militaristic authoritarian furry friend has taught me any thing, the Dracthyr are scalies.

Honestly wild how Blizz created probably the perfect class with the monk (super engaging, super active, can either be complete ass or a wrecking ball depending on how well you know and use all the class's tools) and then afterwards just kind of forgot that they literally figured out the exact formula to make their own combat system fun and engaging and instead decided "maybe what the combat needs is holding down buttons???"

The 5 spec idea for each dragon aspect you had was a great idea. I would like it if they did that or let you choose 2 of them and combine them

as much as you might not like the class that much, it is the first new caster to have come out in the game, after like 18 years, and i would like to play a new caster since that's what i enjoy playing.

I'm gonna be playing them. I really love the design. Also I'm a huge dragon nerd. Favorite part of wow always has been the dragons lore. I love the flights, I love the designs... The idea that I now as a character can partake and be a part of that lore completely? That's exciting to me.

They look so. So. So drag. I couldn’t create one that didn’t look like the leader of an alphabet parade, so I made a heterosexual strong woman dragon. The males are 100% Drag On.

All I wanted was a lizard man race in WoW for the better part of almost 20 years. This was the exact thing I hoped it wouldn't be.

Black: Tank, earth & lava, can summon and control an earth shield "passive pet" Red: Melee DPS, fire themed, consuming combo points grants buff to nearby allies Blue: Range DPS, arcane & frost Green: Healer: HoT and persisting AoE Bronze: Healer, shields & delayed healing (+ allies position rollback coded like a blink ?)

Blizzard acquired Spyro some time ago. I can't wait to have Spyro like dailies, puzzles and generally throwbacks. Would be cool if some of the Spyro races would be reimagined for mobs in WoW as well.

Stopped in the middle of WoD and recently caught up with what WoW was doing all these years... WHAT IN THE FURRY HELL?

Same, basically. I have literally zero interest in being a Scaley or Scalie or whatever the lizard/dragon version of furries are. Nor do i really have any interest in being a dragon mage spellcaster thing. Also the fact there's no 3rd spec option for tanking is really weird. hard pass on both dragon people and the Evoker.

"They look Stupid" "They look like Dragqueens" Ehhh..... Ouch?

Combination was a fast, lazy way to try to recover people who left imo. Agreed with all your suggestions on each flight specs btw!!!

Not having a melee or tank *kill the baddies with my claws* kind of spec is kind of llama

7:25 Ah yes, let's make the aspect of life NOT a healing class.

Every new fucking race since Kung Fu Panda, I think; This can't be real, this is a joke. Edit: Mists of Pandaria* I always mix up those two

I know the feeling! I'm heading into Dragonflight with my worgen druid. Nothing beats healing as a resto druid

Same here, I hope they are so fulfilling to kill with a big 2h axe as the rest magic class...

1. The dragon race have a code vain problem, people were amazed at how much you could customise on the creation screen, but in reality you get fuck all freedom with creativity like in dark souls since you can't deck them out in clothing and armour. From what I've seen they can't wear anything hence why the armour you can put on them in the character creation menu. So propel will think it's cool now but will hate it when all the cool armour they unlock won't show up on their dragon form compared to Worgens. 2. Blizzard don't care about the fans or the people who supported them in the past, they only care about trying to rack in everyone from every community, this means different game Genras as well. The game will change, remove and add thing no matter if it doesn't fit, make sense or if a community that doesn't even play the game demands it, the fans will barely get anything they ask as things more catering to the generation and whatever propaganda they are having shoved down their throats demand. It's been a thing for ages with other games hens why Indie has started getting off and more attention, people don't want to play a game that changes to fit everyone, pleasing no one and is trying to cram every corporate thing in to it. People just want to find games suited to them and their community. If you still enjoy WoW thats fine I like WoW but as more and more of it panders to the wrong people and keep making stupid choices the more I see people walk away and never come back, soon me and many others that still give it a change after the 100th fuck up will bugger off and no one will be left which is fine since no game will last for ever, but what matters is how the game died.

really liking the customization options, nice. But I agree, I don't really get behind the playing as a dragon vibe either. IF I come back, ill be looking forward to jumping on my Kul'Tiran!

1. Actionbars are getting smaller and smaller, with less abilities 2. They are including UI customization without addons 3. Overall look and feel of a mobile game Conclusion: they are preparing to introduce wow to other consoles. In the end you will be able to play wow in a mobile phone. Mark my words!

I'm excited about the Dracthyr! The whole flying aspect seems really fun. And the ability to cast both AOE and Single target spells helps a lot. Very versatile.

I don't think anything is going to take me away from the Forsaken. I fell in love in late 2004 and nothing will break that LOVE!

I disagree about splitting this class into 5 specs, I rather having more choices per spec than going back to the spec only meta where you loose class identity. (even if we have no nostalgia playing evoker because it is fresh).

I have said it multiple times under the videos of diffrent creators. Evokers not having a black dragonflight tank spec is extremely irritating.

players are going to find ways to optimize all the button holding and click and drag stuff out of their rotations, a few patches in or even in the xpac after dragonflight all that stuff will get removed

Black Dragon + Blue Dragon being a hybrid melee/magic Tank/DPS would be absolutely sick. That might even have been enough to sucker me into subbing for another month.

Evoker doesn't exactly suit the warcraft dragon fantasy and their spells and abilities the spells look more like a fire druid or something, rather than a mix of black and blue dragon flight, black should have devastating fire and destructive spells and blue dragons are basically a more OP arcane mages, but it just doesn't give that Vibe, I thought Demon Hunter felt much much better.

Youve gotta be the first fantasy Rpg player ive EVER seen that didint like the idea of playing as a dragon

Im actually glad they are not buffed macho-men...they are mages, its more in line with class fantasy. And they can only be evoker, and nothing else, so making them fit that class makes sense.

I was expecting they'd give us a choice of dragon-flight "affiliation" (not specialization) - just like covenants in Shadowlands.

I think the Dracthyr actually look alright aside from their goofy, janky running animation. I would've preferred a class where you turn into a full-on (though smaller) dragon that any race could be, or that the new race had an option for a Draconid style rig but alas... at least the gameplay for them looks really fun.

Omg Dragon twink! That's the best description of those things. I was straight up spitting water out and tryin not to choke after hearing that! Omg I missed ya Nixxiom

Honestly I like that idea for the specs Instead of each role like druid the specs focus on styles of magic AND it would support the whole dragon kin element of the new race

At first, I was also like "yeah let's add a spec for every aspect" but then I realised... why not go the other way around? Why not make it just one spec and you can combine the power of aspects based on your playstyle and requirements. Do you wanna be tanky melee? Black and red Do you want to be magical tank? Black, blue, yellow You get the point. I believe that Blizzard has ton of opportunities to make it feel like you're creating your own class based on your own playstyle. They even said that the class is hard and so they have room for complexity.

Scalie here, also expressing your dissapointment on why evokers can't be big buff herioc dragon Chad's im reallyoraying they'll add a bulky option in the finished launch

What?! Nixxiom in a suit! Looking snazzy my dude! Also, minor correction; Dracthyr are not furries. They're scalies :P

Tbh the dracthyr seems pretty fun

5 years have passed since I played the game, I think it's time to come back. Dude I used to love your animations, so glad you're still here!

I think it’s cool that the class is in the game, and I like the aesthetic just fine. I’ll still be playing my gnome lock though lol.

We gonna have a lot of fun in Arena with 3 Furry's vs 3 Furry's every single Day because you know they will be fucking Broken in PvP like every time a new Class/Race releases.

As a player who wants to stay in dracthyr’s draconic form most of the time, it’s really annoying that I get switched back to visage form every time I mount, just to stay in a blood elf visage form when I dismount. Not looking good so far. Why would I want to spend most of my time looking at a race that already exists?

If there was 5 specs instead of two it would be really cool if the brown dragon spec could reverse the damage of an attack on you or a friendly npc/player by turning back time. The npc/player would still take the damage but then you could undo that damage. Also it would be cool if they could do something like a polymorph but instead of turning into a sheep you move backwards for something like 4 or 5 seconds. The only drawback to this ability would be that the targets skills/spells would also rewind.

I probably agree on the fantasy of the Dracthyr Evoker is kinda meh, and I agree they just give of the feeling of furry/scaly twinks, just making them more like the Drakonid would have been better I think. I would however probably have preferred a Dragonsworn type class were members of the younger races are blessed by the Dragons and become their champions. Mixing the Dragonflights together always had the feeling of creating a sort of abomination in the eyes of the other flights, like the chromatic dragons. So the Dracthyr feels kinda like that to me, dragon abominations. But I have to amit the class looks pretty neat so far, especially that they themselves have the budget Dragon riding mechanic. Just waiting for my Tinker and/or Necromancer class now.

Its gonna be overpowered till blizzard reaches the sales target, afterwards the nerf hammer will fall

As a gay man (who doesn’t do drag) nice one for dissing drag queens 🙃 good for you straight white male

So the drag queen race can fly with their wings instead of summoning a mount, but Blizz couldn't do that for Demon Hunters in place of that stupid felbat mount... come on

This is the exact issue I have with the Dracthyr Evoker. The gameplay looks amazing, and I've been waiting for a new healer spec to catch my eye since Legion reworked Holy Priest, reluctantly playing specs I just really wasn't enjoying to keep on playing the role. With how fun Preservation gameplay looks to be, it really sucks that it's locked to a race that I despise the appearance of, and a class fantasy that makes my eyes roll into the back of my head. I'm still going to play, and I'll probably even main it for serious content. But I definitely won't be able to immerse myself in questing.

I’m still wanting my freaking Merlock class race.

5 specs would have been awesome. And yes, they are furries. Could have drawn them to look cool instead of drawing them to look like the furry porn they got commissioned to draw before blizzard hired them.

honestly the class had SO much potential but blizzard ruined the devastation tree as a healer,evoker does so good while in his healing spec BUT if i want to quest for achievement grinding i literally found VERY hard to even clear a pack of 3-5 mobs while in devastation form, the class is so squishy for no reason while wearing mail xD i dont know, its kinda boring class if you want to play a range dps

I can see how some classes do not feel good. Deathknights were fun on release, but I lost complete interest with the nerfs and unable to come back as a goul. Druid was always my default, along side monk tank and shame DPS. I hope the dragons be fun. Man it's been so long since I even looked at the game.

Oh CRAP!!! I never considered the goldshire sickos with this new race. Looks like any new human I play is going through bandit territory to stormwind and leveling elsewhere

I love what you said about the Dracthyr. I also share similar concerns. Specific, I want there to be a 5th body type that looks like Draven's body or Mal'ganis' body. At the moment the Dracthyr look like lizards and not dragons. I also wish that the Visage form could be any playable race OR the one they specifically made for us. The current visage form, I wish it had more straight hairstyles; I wish you could have human eyes and human ears and no scales at all. I want to pass as a non-LGBT human, essentially. And lastly, I really wish there let them be all the available classes. I'd make a blue dracthyr mage that only used frost powers; I'd make a green dracthyr monk that was a healer, or a druid. I'd make a black dracthyr warrior or fire mage.

Those water dragons mobs looks much better then race itself tbh... No metter ill chop chop all of them with my warrior:).

I honestly haven't been this excited for a race/class in any game for a long while. Even if the expansion is bad I'll at least have fun playing the dragons!

I remember when Death Knights were introduced, they received a lot of backlash. "Deathtards" was one of the more affectionate terms my guild used, of course they always meant randoms in PVP and PVE, the own alts or new mains were of course efficiently rolled characters played with the highest level of skills that mortals could muster. I don't see myself seriously playing one really, but eventually Blizzard had to come with new ideas eventually and much like other new classes in the past they tend to be very overtuned initially, only to be nerfed into the ground later, making them of course absolutely useless and subject to be removed from the game.

Though I would love a chadthyr dragon choice, I do really like how these dragons are looking, and the class itself seems very interesting. I know I usually get bored of classes depending on their gameplay, but these really look like they add a new style to WoW

Yeah, I'm heading to the Dragon Isles with the title Dragonslayer. They flights might disagree but I am sure we'll be killing a great many dragons on that Island.

I really enjoy the entire idea of a dragon mage. Too few games that do this.

I actually regret not playing a wow expansion with out playing the new race/class , and this time I'm playing the dragon and I think it's cool how it can fly as a race

It's funny how people call Dracthyr "furries" yet don't include the Tauren, Worgen, Vulpera, and Pandaren in the equation 😂 sure, Worgen and Vulpera were initially called furries but people got over it. Also; these same people are constantly begging to play as Tuskarr, Naga and Arakkoa

I will admit that's my only nitpick with the new expansion and class- no tank class for once. When you hear dragon you think "Ungodly strength, mastery of the mystic arts, restorers of harmony and life" and all that good stuff. And honestly, I think it would've been cool if they did make the Evoker a spellcaster-like tank class, that'd be cool and original; and as someone who loves tanking and soloing mobs/elites, im sad to see we won't get that chance with this class. BUT! with that said, I am VERY interested in the way the spell system works with them. You can just feel the power welling up the longer you hold down the buttons for longer cast time, and i kinda hope it's a gimmick that gets implemented in the other classes in the future of this expansion. Either way, I love the class abilities, and, as a reminder, you CAN play a tank-based class with this race, I assume you get the warrior class and whatnot, right? With that, you can still live up to the idea of being a "black dragon aspect warrior" and whatnot so it kinda works out ^^

It would have been way more logical and fun to have 3 specs represeting the different aspects. This whole alpha is showing promise for the future, but not for this expansion.

I'll play a Dracthyr Evoker when they get big buff physiques like the Drakonid guards at Blackrock Mountain/Wyrmrest Temple, and humanoid form options besides Blood Elf #3.

Ive been obsessed with all things dragon since I was a little girl and wanted a dragon playable race for forever so was so happy when they announced the Dracthyr especially in the colour blue as blue is my favorite colour so Iam defo #TeamBlueDragonflight :3

Man I just want ogres or tuskaar so badly. I don’t hate the draconic form of the Dracthyr especially with the added body shapes ( still think the neck is just a little too long ) but the visage form is just so bad and locking it to one class is extremely bad. I also dislike that gear won’t appear on their draconic form

7:14 This is, indeed, a much better idea than the status quo, I agree. The game also desperately needs to make tanking more accessible, add more options for it rather than push even more community members away from even the option of tanking when needed. And yes, the Dracthyr look repulsive.