So I heard you want a voron 

Don't build a v0 as your first voron. It is a far more tedious and frustrating build. I think the trident is a no brainer recommendation. No point in building the others unless you really know what you're doing and why you want them.

stop. shaking. the camera.

Thank you for explaining the difference I was confused 😊

100% agree. My first build was a V0 (you can think of it as a small trident) which wasn't too bad, got it up and running, but it took me forever to fix ringing, VFA's, loose bolts, etc. The V0 is so small and compact, everything is crammed together, and some repairs and tweaks often mean tearing down structural stuff, and then going to have to do all the calibration all over again. Afterwards I built a V2.4 350 R2 and it works great, better than the V0, but there are a lot of things to look at. I want a trident now.

I've built both as well. I agree 100%. I love them both. The Trident was an easier build and I have found no difference in print quality. However, because I added the Klicky and Klipperscreen mods to my Trident it is pretty much my goto printer (I'll be adding both mods to my 2.4 soon.) In any case, if you are wavering between building one or the other -- my guess is that you won't be satisfied until you have both.

Thanks for the quick explanation! It's surprisingly difficult to find objective side-by-side comparisons -- I love the concept & ecosystem, but the Voron Design website doesn't do a particular good job of explaining the "why & what" of each design, and most reviewers will of course build only one system and thus already have a bias towards their system of choice. Also, for people who are new to sourcing & customized building: I've personally just started building Rolohaun's "Rook", a mini barebones CoreXY ultra-budget (~$200) machine, and it's a great design to understand the "foundation" of printer design.

Dude, thanks for the no BS assessment. I was up in the air, 50/50. Trident it is!

Technically the trident would be able to do planer printing better as it’s 3 point bed mount is less constrained then the 4 point gantry of the 2.4

Great listen. Cam too shaky!

trident/salad fork should technically be faster than the 2.4 due to the static gantry. People just didnt do a speed benchy with it. lots of people did records on the zero though. ps. dr d-flo built a 1000mm cubed printer. same concept at the 2.4

Love the Johnny Bravo Jando

Nice content - I was 99% wanting the 2.4 before but I'm now 50/50. One thing you didn't talk about which may be a deciding factor is centre of mass being higher on the Trident and vibrations. I print in a garden room with a wooden floor that has a bit of movement in it. I'm worried about vibrations and quality, but not looking to print at stupid speeds. Do you notice any wobble differences in the two printing at daily quality speeds?

Since I already made up my mind on what i want a 2.4r2 for, I want one for 1 speed 2 build volume 3 it Looks awesome 4 stationary build plate, with a 2.4r2 i would have 3 different styles of printed, cartesian moving in z and lastly stationary

Chad Jando!

What sizes are the two printers in the video? Isn't the trident taller then the v2.4? In the video they look like similar height?

I'm currently thinking of canceling my prusa MK4 order and building a voron instead. Do they make a lot of noise? Can they be used as a bedside printer? Also how is maintanance after proper setup?

Definitly Trident. Look at WP-DAKSH - an open source design for a tool-changer. On a Voron 2.4 it wouln't be impossible, but the gantry would always need to go up to the tools on every toolchange. Actually I have a Voron 2.4-inspired kit (Jennyprinter 650; 6050by650by650) with CNC milled parts (instead printed ones). Have not build it yet, but I already think about redesigning it to Trident style. But as the CNC-parts are very good quality, so I might use the 4 z-Belts for moving the bed instead of leadscrews.

The V0.1 actually isn't a great first build. It makes too many sacrifices for its size and the build has too many pieces that depend on others, especially the Z axis. The inserted nuts also suck.

The voron Phoenix is coming bro, you'll need to make room

I don't understand why the 2.4 can be faster than the trident? The flying gantry seems harder to drive quickly, especially with input shaping.

I just don't understand, what could be and advantage of having 4 Z axes, while having 3 is already enough? the 2.4 is great, sure, but the trident offers all the necessary to do basically whatever you can think of, and more. If you have a reason why the 2.4 would be worth more to build over a trident, please tell me

I just want a very good printer that can print ABS, Nylon and flex filament relyably, while not being reliant on a single brand. So i'll build a Trident. Also I don't really trust belts.

Big thing I haven't seen mentioned, it's much easier to IDEX a Trident you already built vs a 2.4

both are fast! one is not faster than the other... it all depends on how it put together....trident has smaller space to heat up then the 2.4....Trident is certainly easier to build and to me much nicer to deal with.

I did the 2.4r2 but it was just because it was what was available at my local vendor - if they'd had both I would've gone Trident because of the simpler machine like you say. But the 2.4 is a fun machine, the gantry going all axis is fun - not better, just fun :) More to tune and maintain though.

The Trident will be hotter up high where the printing is happening. Voron's are great but I'd not bother with a 2.4 for this reason alone. Yea yea, I know they work. My temp gun tells me one is hotter than the other at the print altitude. Data rules.

What are the bed sizes?

Why do ink jet printers work fast with good acceleration start and stop motion and are smooth? They use belts to drive the print head, but the print heads are also light weight. If you want speed in a machine, belts are your best option, consider also that belts are also a low mass component unlike a lead screw or ball screw. So I go for belt drives for speed. It is a trade-off if you are used to lead screws but as far as mechanical complexity, belts are more user friendly, you can be slightly off on the belt alignment, but a lead screw is not as forgiving. All these core x machines are using the wrong approach to the drive system. There is a far easier and better way. I have such on my own design, but I have yet to see something similar.

Hey which voron should i build?

2:42 Your printer has ball screws?

How does it compare to the X1C?

You should build a swichwire and a legacy

thanks! only video out there

why didnt you show your friend tackling the printer??!?!

Super helpful. Too bad my 2.4 is already in its way lol!

Where have you heard?

trident vs rat rig v-core 3.1?

Belted Z is Gucci.

Duuude.. That shaky camera action.. Really needs improvement. Really like your energy though! :)

Is the Trident louder than the 2.4? It would make sense to me, because the gantry is fixed directly to the overall frame. The 2.4 gantry is of course connected to the frame with the 4 linear rails, but has a lot of printed parts between which could dampen the vibrations. I've built already 2 2.4 for work an they are surprisingly quiet. This is exactly what I need at home but I would love to build a trident.

Voron 0 is not good for start. That because this printer is so small and parts are small to and building is very frustrating

2.4 is complicated for the sake of being complicated. Trident is a way better design. I also do not understand how the bed moving down is slower than moving the floating gantry up? 2.4 is all show. Its like the people with the bed slingers using a second Z motor for the dual Z. So you need to have dual Z control to level the gantry because a dual Z motor causes the gantry to go out of level. So then on top of that, you add a pulley and belt at the top to keep the dual Z motors aligned. Hahahahaha or you could have just used the belt and pulley and no second stepper. Nothing like creating problems and then solutions to the problems you created. But then you would not have all that added useless complexity to stare at.

Is there a permanent earthquake where you live 😂

shaky ass camera work