So I tried SONIC FRONTIERS Final Horizon Update... 

13:41 I played the whole game on hard mode and can I just say my jaw dropped when I saw the balloons and springs in this video. In hard mode, ALL OF THAT is gone. There are no balloons or springs. You have to actually platform instead of mashing homing attack. It’s actually really difficult

Amy's cards have actually been a thing since CD

My biggest hope is they keep these characters playable in the next big 3D Sonic game but fix the pop in and give the developers more time and budget to have it be complete at the start. That being said, I'm happy they made each character different.

I noticed the tower climbing footage is the easy mode version of the game. So that's what it looks like. I guess the person playing didn't go through hell and back to climb those things.

Soundtrack of the game goes hard

Good video, but I have one suggestion: try to play platforming challenges on hard where they delete those endless baloons and see for yourself how much harder it becomes

Being able to skip play forming segments is VERY easy with every character, especially knuckles’ uppercut into a parry and back into uppercut allowing you to get infinite height and tails’ cyclone allowing you to go literally anywhere.

Hard mode offers some of the most difficult platforming I've ever experienced in a Sonic game.

They gave my boys Knuckles and Tails justice and my girl Ames too. They cooked

I love this Sonic game!

Battle Rush and Cyberspace Challenge have been there since update 1 and by beating Battle Rush you get extreme difficulty and Cyberspace challenge gives you the max rings boost in cyberspace

Great video bro!

I'm sure you're gonna get 100 comments about this, but the tarot cards are not from Dark Brotherhood. Tarot cards have been a thing with Amy since Sonic CD. Watching the gameplay here....man, the towers are WAY different on hard mode. All those balloons and automation sections you talk about are gone. It's completely different looking at it now.

"One of the best 7/10 games youll ever play" haha that's a great line. Maybe we need to go more meta than simply the review score. Or does that mean it simply deserves a higher score? Hmm

16:30 That what I started doing before I figured out the intended(?) method. Bait them to throw it at you while you are far away, then rush in. When the disk comes back, parry it and it will circle back the other way, then hit them more, then parry again, etc. It's a pretty nice rhythm! Also, you didn't mention the spin dash, which gives you the option to really speed through stages and find cool shortcuts. It even has a cool interaction with the rocket boost. Overall, I'm loving this update so far! Plus, the modding scene is probably about to go crazy now that all the big, mod breaking updates are out!

The spindash on all the characters with the momentum slider are is actually chefkiss I feel like a lot of people aren’t using the spindash for the main traversal like they should b tbh

The thing you described about the limited travel i felt that with amy and by the time i got to knuckles and tails i realized it just payed off to grind their levels while i unlock what i can of the map and just unlock the better ways to travel and the spin dash

Did you really put things from update 2 and said it was from update 3 like the music box and the island combat trials and Cyberspace island trials. And at this point, I thought he was going to say the Spindash was from update 3. But if He really said it was from update 2, then fix my mistake because I didn't hear that. also you said you were playing in hard mode but all the footage I saw was in Easy Mode unless it's Footage from another person, then that would make sense, Not a lot of people know this, but it automatically puts you in Easy at the start of the DLC, I think because It happened to me. But for my review, Tales it my favorite, Knuckles is my least favorite, and the ending was amazing. trial 2 is the worst, Everybody has a good day, and I want to see your opinions. Celebrate for update 3 🎉.

Some people play a game about a talking blue hedgehog. And complain about floating rails not being “believable.” Uh-huh…😏

For trial 2, if you stand back and let the enemy throw it out at you, you can homing attack in and parry the blade, which sends it back around, then depending on how far or close you were positioned, you can get a few punches in before parrying the blade back around again

5:53 Thank you! I thought I was the only one who noticed the similar reception!

Did you climb the towers on easy mode? Because there are a lot of balloons that I didn’t see in hard mode.

What difficulty were u playing in? I played on hard mode and it didnt have all those balloons in the towers, i actually had do do them

oh hell yeah! I didnt know it came out already! i gotta get on this!

6:33 Finally, the beloved “Tax Evasion” move from Knuckles returns.

Genuine question but if i wanted to play the update story would I have to start another playthrough or can i continue from where i left off?

We’re not even gonna talk about the last trial and how it’s super unfair. No normal kid under 12 years old is beating that tf was you on Sega?

I need a video on Sly Cooper 2 and 3!! Your last one was so interesting

Btw, the uppercut was cut from SA1, not SA2. SA2 had the uppercut, as did the Advance games. Also, the closest we have to Gamma is Omega, as Gamma is just gone, and you forgot that Unleashed did emotional moments pretty well too.

I love Amy's theme in Final Horizon it just makes me feel so good inside. I can't describe it. And I love the final boss.

Great inputs and reviews. Love your honest opinion and feedback.

I did the same thing for that trial but I always use the cyloop on those particular guys automatically so it didn’t take me too long.

The climax was crazy

One thing i love is beating this allows you to switch whenever you want

i actually want a bit more characters as side story dlc - like an team combo of shadow - rouge - cream, omega is maybe out of the question with the story timeline at this moment, i certainly like chaotix and possibly team holigan if they exist in the adventure-modern universe

11:07 Amy just standing there. Feel like that should’ve been edited better but that was just really really strange. Lmao it made me uncomfortable. Lmao

Just got the CD soundtrack for this games 3rd update The Final Horizon the mail today at 2:34p.m. and it's the Sonic Frontiers Expansion Soundtrack: Paths Revisited CD and I'm listening to it while watching this! 5:35p.m. 12/19/2023

This update has some of the best and most challenging platforming in a 3D Sonic game. The freedom your given with moves like the spindash in Frontiers is awesome.

Tails plane is awesome. You can go from side to side in no time. Also try doing the towers on hard mode with Sonic. It's really hardcore and pulls no punches.

the battle rush and cyber space challenge were added in update 1 and new game + was added in update 2

There's a weird thing, I don't know if it's just in the PC version, but some of the optional character conversations have missing audio lines. Like if you talk to Sage as Amy in front of the pyramid thing, there are a couple lines from Sage that aren't voiced. I thought maybe they were just her internal monologue but Amy was replying. And on the flipside, there's a conversation where Tails is talking to Eggman and he starts referring to him like he's not there and I could only tell through context clues that that WAS Tails' internal monologue, but there's no reverb on those lines or anything, very weird. Unfortunately the low object draw distance is an engine issue and not a game issue, so you'd have to essentially rebuild a ton of the game's logic after going in and fixing it. It's an issue with the foundation, not the game on top of it. Frontiers was built using the same engine as Lost World and Forces so it wasn't designed to facilitate a free moving camera in a big open environment.

The most fun 7/10 game is an achivement in itself.

if I recall, Amy's whole "tarot" card thing was also apart of the japanese manual for the story of CD that got animated in Sonic Origins. I know in recent years, the IDW comics have also had her using Tarot cards as a side hobby with her friends. It's nice to see incorporated in the games more. Ian Flynn definitely cares about consistency and lore, and that definitely shines in this whole game, which I appreciate

I need to play this

Tip on trial 2 enemies: get close to an enemy, but not to close to him. Just enough until he starts to throw his shield. Once he throws it, dash towards him and attack him, but once the shield comes back parry it. Since he threw it so far away that means the parry sends it farther and you get more hits on him. Infinite loop cheese 🤣

I can’t imagine anything would make me try Sonic Frontiers again. It was so bad. It was anti-level design. That wasn’t an open world. Just a field with a roller coaster. You want open world platforming you gotta go Sunset OD.

Hi I’ll come back to this when I’ve finished it myself

Have you got the spindash for sonic yet If not you can go back to the previous islands and you must s rank all the action chain challenges (you have to go to the original ouranous island to do the last 10)

i thought knuckles played terribly especially after recently touching adventure 1 lol. the startup on glide, the stupidly wide gliding turns and the weird slippery climbing feel just weren't it for me lol tails and amy were fun though. thought the amy theme was pr good, tails was good, knuckles' was awful/repetitive/not fitting for his character. im on the first tower now and it's incredibly frustrating. wish there was at least a checkpoint, having to start from the beginning every time is ridiculous

Now we just need super sonic in free roam and in the stages.

Dave is actually valid I use them a lot

I kind of hope that there's a patch to adjust the difficulty and the controls of the playable characters because this update is kind of rough

16:30 The segment with the shield enemies I figured out an even better combo. You actually never have to cyloop! All you need to do is bait the enemy to throw their shield, homing attack the enemy, get a few hits in, and then parry the shield on its way back to the enemy and repeat! Took a bit for me to figure this out but it was so clutch lol

This game is so jank lol

Sonic P-06 is the best Sonic Game ever made. I would like to know your thoughts on that!!

My friend how do u have balloons on the platforming challenges i played on hard and there were no balloons at all

Cool shirt

Wait hold on! Howcome your tower looks so much different than mine!! I did not have those places to do the homing attack!

Nice

4:21 The difference is that Rail Canyon had a reason, being a train station over a canyon and all. There's no internal consistency in Frontiers. That's the first part of the problem. The second is that is doesn't fit the style of the area. The rails on Kronos could have been vines or stone transport lines or something.

Almost forgot this guy plays sonic games

the umbrella guys have a easier way to defeat and that would be hit them when they throw the hat and when it gets close to his head you parry it

You know that a lot of the automation is gone above easy mode, yes? A lot of daring jumps and airboosts, a lot of momentum game (and probably a lot of ways to get shortcuts with the spindash) and no small amout of narrow passages high in the sky (you can save yourself if you're good enough). The only point I switched to easy was in the last tower an even then it was for the trial at the top and not the climbing itself. About the challenge you were stuck on: there's another way to do it, but it requires you to know how to time a parry.

I didn't expect such terrible pop-in. Looks fun regardless.

Im so far having a good time with the update, I much rather prefer the base game because Im not switching from character to character every 30 minutes. Overall I still love this game, top 5 Sonic game

Leggo! Would like you to do a review of a play station 1 game call Syphon Filter one of my favorite games that was an instant classic.

Will enjoy this DLC and then not long after will be the release of Sonic Superstars. Not a bad time to be a Sonic the Hedgehog fan.

I sadly couldn’t really get behind the 3rd update I love the base game but this update didn’t really keep me I still have yet to beat the final boss so maybe the ending will be good

You saying the platforming wasn't too hard genuinely had me baffled... then I saw the balloons and extra springs. Wtf is that?? How?!? Is that like an easy mode thing???

Cyberspace level 4-b is inane difficulty you might wanna try it took me 2 hours to fully beat it was a mile harder than 1-2

Did u know they added momentum and the spindash it’s a game changer

did you not finish this at the time of making this video? i don’t understand how you can talk about this update without talking about the final boss and ending which is the MAIN thing here

Sonic Team heard people say the game was easy and REALLY took it personally 😂

It seems like you played on easy mode cause all the balloons on the towers it’s so much harder same for the bosses

What I wouldn't mind is sonic heroes 2 or a sonic heroes remaster and or remake.

Anyone else notice this man was playing on easy?

Great video, but bro how did you NOT talk about rhe spin dash? It changes the WHOLE game!

It’s “blast processing “

Matty this is 3 updates they drip fed the content over this year why do people not do there research

On hard difficulty, scaling those towers are H A R D

Too bad the jukebox doesn't work when you enter the Another Story ring

They practically striped Amy of one of her most iconic features her hammer, for something that feels so out of nowhere with her. Never once have we seen her doing any of this. It just feels out of place. She doesn't need any of this. And y'all saying "But these cards has been a part of her since CD", you tell me if she's ever done any of this card sh*t ONCE.(I'll exclude Dark Brotherhood because duh everyone does.) Edit: Like literally they're cards not magic items that can do anything she wants them to. We know she has hidden psychic powers but LIKE THIS? FR? Who on the team let any of this slide like C'MON 😐

Bro literally didn’t know that the spin dash is unlockable

You can plants Amy

Can you homing attack as tails?

Crash Team Rumble time free this weekend

they made good levels with depth for a FREE update?? I'm more excited for superstars and the future now, imagine what theyll be able to do on a full budget and more time!

The platforming getting me heated quite a bit actually but that was fine. Only thing i really hated with this personally was the Master King trial. Only time in the entire game were i caved and switched to easy

im sorry but the snake trial and the master coco trial are too brutal for me to try and beat this dlc. I just dont like it, and just cause its free doesnt mean its beyond critiscism

i cant even watch this video of the game, my motion sickness is so bad

5:53 Of course Re:Mind was $30 while Final Horizon is free.

The second tower's challenge was way too fine tuned to a strict timer. Made absolutely no sense-- Same goes for the Master King Trial. It's like they didn't account for how much time would be wasted on your way through the ridiculously tight time frame on top of needing to perfect parry-- Which if you failed ONCE, you're severely harming your chances of success. It's a shame this is so hard to get through, even on easy ( Do the Master King Trial on easy, bigger parry window. You'll thank me-- Keep your pride out of it. It's not worth your sanity or time.) because messing around the sandbox as all the characters made me feel like a kid again.. But if kids (And some of us adults.) progress to the final challenge, the game holds Amy, Knuckles and Tails ransom until you complete it. Pretty whack. The credits made me cry again though, so that's neat.

Would like if sonics friends wouldn’t be blurry all the time would like skins of them just being normal like sonic

Damn, I still haven't beaten the game yet, still haven't saved Knuckles lol, but hearing this DLC makes the game even harder makes me not want to come back to the game. I don't like it when games get in the way of me enjoying their stories and characters so it's a real bummer to hear they bumped it up a lot. Sigh, oh well, I guess I'll just play other games in my backlog for now like I have been.

Sheessh that is aggressive pop in trow some ps2 fog in or somthing

I stated on the switch then got it for my pc. The difference was night and day 😂.

If you got the game on easy mode is gonna give does pop stuff to get up on the tower easy , but if you got it on hard mode , oh god is a nightmare is hard as fu$*#!!!!!!!! So hard

Wow. The towers are brain dead on easy mode 14:40

It seems like we might get a new main villain of the Sonic game series

A lot of that footage was on easy mode........... 😐