I’m building a G47 Gen 5 MOS. Have the Timney Comp trigger. Holosun SCS. Streamlight TLR-1HL. Magwell ring. Glock Store slide plate. Extended slide lock. Just from watching all your videos. I wanted a G17, but noticed the barrel swap for the 19 and 47. Now I have both and now I got 4. Having 1 is none, having 2 is 1.
I only have experience with the Hive Technologies Monarch trigger. It has been an amazing trigger. Zero take up, crisp break, short reset. It is adjustable so I was able to fine tune it. I have used it in my conceal cary piece for about 5 years with no issue.
There are other systems out there. I had a G34 G4 come in from Yeti, which I customized some more. It had a Zev trigger, but no corresponding bar. A Ghost system made it smooth.
I just got my first pistol this month and was advised to change out the trigger system. Your channel helps me immensely figure out what to get. Thanks a ton dude. I’ll have to buy some of your merch to return the favor. You kick a$$.
I'm from Brazil and I watch all your videos, they are excellent. Unbiased videos without purchased and sponsored content, because here in Brazil we do not have serious content, here we speak well what they pay you. Thank you very much for the real content.
I believe it’s less about the actual shoe and more about the inner workings! Take Johnny Glock‘s for example you could send him just about any shoe on a GEN three bar and he’ll make it behave however you want it too it’s more about the builder! And not a lot of people can design a Glock trigger that’s 3 pounds without changing the striker spring but I’ve managed to pull that off! No light strikes in my Glocks! Lol good overview on different shoes though! I truly just buy the shoes for looks and finger feel “Thats what she said” and leave the rest up to Johnny or myself.
yes the shoe is a tactile thing but its also where the angle change is for the interface of the front of the trigger bar that changes take up. This can be done on a stock shoe with an adjustable screw as well.
My favorite is a 3.5 ultimate connector by ghost and updated 6lb heavier striker spring. Has a defined wall due to the spring and the connector takes out the mush.
I am filing the trigger safeties on all my guns to make them flash, when pressed, with the trigger ! Supper comfortable after that and free!! Its plastic molding so little sharp edges is always to be expected but never a reason to spend hundreds for upgrades ;)
I installed the Johnny Glocks combat trigger today. I am a mechanical doofus but managed to do it. It does not seem any lighter, but eliminates the mush and creep and shortens the reset.
Thank you for the review. I have two Apex triggers and a Timney Alpha trigger. I love them all. I really like the Timney. It is actually in an older G26. Like you I have no problem carrying it, but I would have great concerns with someone with less experience than mine, because it is a light pull. I tested it at 2.13 to 3.2 lbs. Again, thank you. I really appreciate your review.
Is the 3rd or 4rth time i watch this, dude your reviews are outstanding, the passion for guns you print in these videos is amazing, keep it on ! great channel !!
This video couldn't come out at a better time. I was just looking at different triggers for my new 17 MOS last night, and now this comes out. I've about made the decision to go with the Overwatch, due to your last top 3 and review on it, so let's see if it stays at the top!
@@TacticalConsiderations just ordered the Overwatch Poly DAT, based largely on your recommendation. I tried to use your link on your website, but it isn't working right for some reason. In case anyone is interested, they are offering a shoe only model now, and it's only $39.99!
After several hours of frustration and phone calls to Timney, my Gunsmith gave up trying to install the comp trigger into my stock Glock 19 Gen 4. However, he did test installing it in his Glock 19 Gen 3, and it installed and functioned perfectly. Timney indicated on his last call that Timney had incurred some defective parts in their mfg. process causing issues for installations for Gen 4 pistols. Since I wasted $$ with the Gunsnith attempts I sold the Timney kit to him at a discount. I plan on my future purchases with Mcarbo in the future since I've incurred no previous issues with their products.
Just love this channel!!! Just got my Free yes FREE Glock G45 Gen5 that I WON in a raffle from C2 my local shooting range. It cost me 142$ total since I got the MOS cut and the Ameriglo Bold Night sights. Should have gotten some suppressor night sights but the optic is still a ways away!! Looking to drop in a new trigger ASAP!!!
After many years I broke down and got 2 Glocks. The reason for not having a Glock all these years is because of the triggers. I got a 19 X and a 45 Gen 5. I never shot them until I put the Timney triggers in both. I did have trouble right off, the trigger return spring was a little to weak to return the trigger. Timney really step up and sent me some stronger ones. All I can say is after about 500 rounds is NICE, VERY NICE. This is a game changer for these guns. Both break a little over 3 lbs. I took out the pretravel out of one, this should only be done on a range gun and not for carry. I am talking about WOW, just a little pressure and bang, very little reset and off again. I can only speak for the Timney triggers as I have never tried any others but they are great. Timney was very fast and helpful and sent me the needed spring express mail they have great customer service.
Very nice. I am wondering if I got stronger springs out of the gate .. Mine have not experienced the weak reset but then again all of mine are very well broken in.
@@TacticalConsiderations On another note, if you have not heard of or reviewed the Dry Fire Mag, you should get in touch with those guys and have them send you one. I just got one yesterday and it is really nice, especially if you get the spring kit so that you can more closely match your trigger. They have been around for awhile, not sure why I just heard about it a few days ago! Been dry firing my G45 with it like crazy ever since I got it.
I carry the timney triggers in all of my Glocks. The lighter the better. And say what you want about ADs. Go train. 3.5lbs in the perfect weight for pistol and AR triggers. And I’ll let you know a little tip. Geiselle dmr match trigger is fully tune able. Sear and reset. Also can get different springs in it. The 1.6lbs spring is crazy. Best AR trigger in my opinion
Overwatch Precision has a blue line trigger. 20% of the sale goes to law enforcement. I’ve got a couple of them and they’re great. Thanks for the info sir.
I recently installed Factr triggers on my 43x and 45. There is a defined wall but feels like tons of creep till the break (like 1/8” on the 45 and 1/12” on the 43x). Overall I’m happy with the overall reduction in pull weight and the shoe is fantastic but the creep till break I definitely didn’t expect based on your reviews. I’ll head to the range with them tomorrow and decide if I’m happy or not with the post-wall travel.
yeah update me for sure on those. There is a little but its should be right at the overwatch trigger amount. Do you have a factory or aftermarket connector?
@@TacticalConsiderations overall I’d say I’m happy. The g45 was smooth as ever and I already performed well with it stock. The 43x is still going to take some getting used to but the trigger has been lightened which it absolutely needed as well as the flat shoe. I was able to get Factr triggers for much cheaper than the other brands so I’d say I’m set. Thanks for the recommendations!
I've only tried overwatch and apex so far. Overwatch terrible experience, but apex does the job. I only changed the trigger bar. I don't mind the standard glock pull weight. The reason being you don't need to fish for the reset. You loosen your trigger finger a bit and it just kicks you out back to the wall. It's easier to follow up when you don't need to search for the reset. At least for me. I hate when people complain about glock triggers as if they're built to run competitions out the box.
Jesse hat was the issue with the overwatch , was it the poly version .. I just got word there apparently has been a design change. As for the Glock trigger its def not a competition runner but it was designed the way it is for safety and to allow a wide variance in tolerances. but sounds like you already know that.
@@TacticalConsiderations lmao really? Yeah it was that one, I told them the shit didn't work. It would kick my trigger pin out. The slide stop wouldn't sit flush against the trigger shoe. It sat like this \ instead of straight up and down. trigger pin was sticking out about 1/16th on the right. Plus my slide stop was sort of digging into my frame. I told them this, I sent them photos of both the stock trigger and their trigger installed. They ignored all of what I said "You installed it wrong." Immediately it's not us it's you routine. Which I replaced it with the stock to make sure I wasn't crazy. Then reversed it again. It wasn't my fault, that was clear. How hard is it to switch a trigger on a glock right? After comparing the 2 it was clear their trigger had far too much missing material where the slide stop sat. Good that they finally changed that though. I could careless for them, but at least future customers will probably get a better product that actually works. For the record it felt good, it just was worth a shit fitment wise. On top of the trash customer service, which really sealed the chance of me ever returning. They also made me pay return shipping, which just irritated me even more. But Apex is great, going to grab another. I didn't know timney made glock triggers I see alot of their AR triggers though. Johnny glock used to pop up in my recommended but I completely forgot about it until now. Gonna need to try those 2 out sometime.
@@TacticalConsiderations Please man, tell me what is going on here! I ordered the Overwatch polydat, shoe only, cause that’s all they have. And I bought directly from them. Am I going to have issues in my Gen 4 Glock 10mm?
Had a major issue with the overwatch unit. The trigger shoe pivot point is 1/8” smaller than the OEM Glock unit. This allowed for a considerable amount of side to side play in the shoe, which would allow my slide stop lever to ride up and cause the slide to lock back with a full magazine. Apex or zev did not do this. Something to note and maybe mention next time.
None of mine are like that. However, I asked around apparently there has been a re design of the shoe to make the shoe usable on all gens with the change only the bar I am assuming to cut production costs.
Good info. Nice video. My favorite Glock is a Gen2 31. Stock trigger with Ghost connector and Wolff springs. I'm surfing videos because I tried that same setup on Gen4 41 and didn't get nearly as nice a trigger.
Timney may have changed the game. Glad to see it. They make excellent triggers across the board. I have them in a few rifles. It still blows my mind that a Canik comes stock with a trigger probably as good as a Glock Timney trigger.
@@tommymorgan9293 i was one that originally complained at first because the expectations was set SO HIGH from what I seen on RU-vid. I was expecting a 3.5 single action revolver type of pull. There is the slightest bit of creep that is only noticeable if you are putting incremental pressure on the trigger while you are dry firing. The reset is totally different than an OEM Glock reset as well. With that said I do really like the trigger and it’s far better than others I have tried. I don’t even notice the reset or any creep at all when firing the gun. I do believe it was money well spent for me. I dang near returned it at first. But I am so glad I didn’t.
I own a Canik Rival and a DR920P with a timney trigger. The Rival trigger is better especially with an Overwatch walther return spring and lightened plunger spring but the timney is damn close . A Ghost connector makes the Timney even better as well
Good information! I carry a G22 for duty, but prefer .45ACP so my carry pistols are either a G21SF or a G30S (which can use G21 13-round mags) and am looking for a replacement trigger, and this video is a good starting point for my research! - RLTW 2/75
I have read what seems like hundreds of reviews on replacing the guide rod on a 43X, and after reading this one review, I am a little confused. I came across several reviews that machinists have stated the tungsten is a very brittle metal. If a piece was to drop on the ground, it will shatter, and the grain structure looks like sand. They mention it isn't a good material choice for firearm parts. (they say it might be SUITABLE for a competition gun, where your life isn't on the line if the part was to break) What is your take on this review. Is the solid SS the way to go? Please confuse me....
Great video. That overwatch tac trigger is still my favorite with the NP3 striker, minus connector, and safety plunger all Glock Oem parts just NP3 coated. If I get more time with the timney and comfortable with how easy it is to break through that glass rod like wall my opinion may change. I think with the right tweaks that may be fine for EDC too but out the box I’m just not comfortable with it. Did you install and use Johnny’s kit for it yet? If so what’s your thoughts 💭, happy Easter to you and the wife btw. Hope it was a good one
My factory Glock P80 GEN1 Lypseys exclusive has a really good trigger that has pretravel that I don't mind but hits a very hard wall then breaks heavy with absolutely no creep like breaking glass. I have a bunch of Glocks & they all have a little creep but I can't figure out why the P80 came from the factory this way but I ain't complaining. I'd suggest trying Glock triggers before you buy cause there are some that just come out with a great trigger. Hickok 45 says he tries out triggers before he buys & he doesn't like gen5 triggers cause they're " mushy" & he finds the gen3 & 4 triggers are crisp & have a glass break on some but most have creep.
I get ya I've had over 2 dozen glocks of my own and at work have tested at least 100 more none had great triggers out of the box . Glock Triggers aren't terrible the design just is what it is
Have you ever used Glockstore triggers? The only videos I see are all from their channel. I want to see an unbiased opinion on the trigger. A friend just recently bought their basic trigger, and I liked the way it felt and was just wondering if you ever used one.
I added a Johnny Glocks combat , with the Jvex shoe to my 19 gen5, and absolutely love it! Have you ever tried Johnny Glocks? I’m adding one to my Shadow Systems MR920.
Mike, you have way to many Glocks!!! Remember Sig (I know you do, 226, P320 P365), H&K (USP, P30, VP9), CZ (a bunch), Beretta (M9/92 at least) all deserve love! I'm thinking of sending you a digital gauge when I get my stimulus. Since you spent you budget 😢😢.
I'm telling ya, my dude...Apex w/ 6lbs striker and trigger springs, unmarked disconnector... breaks like a duty 1911. Weightless take-up. Really solid pre-break wall... try it with a + connector in the Nomad...oof.
im a certified gunsmith and licensed FFL dealer, i work on alot of glocks i mself have tried my share of triggers and so far my favorite and price friendly is the Glockstore pyramid ultimate trigger comes with everything you need and comes with 4 different striker springs and it has a wide choice of colors and color combinations
I have the Pyramid 2 in my G 43x and have no problems with it. The first time I shot with the factory trigger, I put a box of 50 through it over 2 hours and my fingertip was screaming an hour later!
The Timney looks like the only one I could use without throwing up in my mouth. The PDP trigger I customized is literally better than off the shelf 1911's
Glock 19 gen 5 mos with the overwatch precision polydat trigger with a ghost minus connector was pretty decent. Defined wall with a little more over travel than I would like. The feel was good however my finger placement wasn’t consistent. Recently replaced with apex trigger and trigger bar with ghost minus connector in the g19 gen 5 mos and I love it! The red shoe is nice contrast. The wall is more defined. Nice crisp break. Very little take up. However, there is still some over travel but not a deal breaker and I think the g19 just has those tolerances. The weight is definitely lighter and sometimes it outshoots me lol. Will be trying the overwatch tac trigger and bar soon on a g43x mos. Will update. So far, can’t go wrong with the apex!
Nice set ups. The glock trigger are tough to get rid of overtravel without putting in a screw in the trigger block to stop the bar from over travel but that's a big change in the pistol
Thank you for your reply....I absolutely LOVE all of your videos. They are all so informative and entertaining .... Be Safe....@@TacticalConsiderations
I'm in the middle of a competition build, G34 limited division, I've had good experience with Zev fulcrum trigger, would you put Timney over the Zev for competition purposes? I've heard and read a bunch of good things about the Timney but never tried one. Any feedback would be awesome as I am planning on finishing my build in a couple months. Thank you and awesome quality video man! Looking forward to watching more stuff.
Great video and channel, Bud! I’m new to firearms and I just picked up the G43X. It’s a great reliable gun, but the factory trigger is HORRENDOUS. Just after my first 100 rounds, it was already eating up my finger😖 I was wondering if you would have some recommendations on which tigger I should run with? I think i have the same likings to what you look for in a glock tigger so it would help me a ton!! thank you for any feed back.
Hi, I am doing a p80 glock 23 build and I was wondering what magwell you are using on your p80? Thanks for the trigger review by the way. I have been researching triggers for days for this build.
I have one with the Overwatch and one with the apex in the 43x line. I think the Overwatch is a bit shorter overall travel so it depends on how you feel about that take up.
Thanks for taking the time to respond I appreciate it. I like the fact that Apex is approved for duty use with some law enforcement so that might be the way I lean.
I have the APEX and I was expecting something much more. It’s slightly better than factory, but not much. I spoiled myself making a PPQ my first pistol and now I suck with Glocks.
@TacticalConsiderations I'm still going to get an apex trigger for it. I'm. Ot sure if I'm going to have the gunsmith do it for me or if I'm going to try it myself.
I put a polydat in my g43 to really just get a flush trigger safety. I really didn’t expect much but damn I’m impressed. I typically stick with apex Glock triggers but I might try out another overwatch when I get another Glock.
I saw your top 3 trigger video from last year and was sold on the Steel City Trigger and purchased one recently because of functionality and aesthetics. Makes me a a bit sad knowing it’s not in your top 3 anymore. Change of heart?
I was looking into replacing the trigger in my Glock 19 GEN 5. Primarily due to the fact, I don’t like the factory trigger shoe and safety blade. I’m not interested in reducing the trigger pull, it’s more about the comfort. I was looking at the Apex trigger shoe, but they don’t just make the trigger shoe replacement for the Gen 5. Do you have any recommendations on just trigger shoe replacements or do I just put the old freedom Flatty in from Apex?
dimensions on the trigger are a bit too narrow and will allow side to side play in the tigger and slide release due to there being 3/16" on one side, and about 1/8" before it meets the slide release. maybe the trigger bar is worth it, but the shoe is garbage
Because of your reviews I'll go with slr magwell and now timney trigger, but you do not recommend it for edc. Wich one do you suggest? Thanks for sharing all this knowledges. Very happy your channel finally is growing up and take a position that really deserve it on yt! 💪🏼
@@TacticalConsiderations I've just watched your video about polish glock trigger. I'll buy a rotary tool and try it first. Saddly I don't have a "trigger pull scale" to measure it, but I'll it anyway. Cya
Overwatch has been out of stock for a bit on the NP3 coated kits. It's been bumming me out because after using the flat trigger shoe for my Polymer80 build's lower parts kit, I'm sold on the flat face.
If someone is on the fence about changing out stock equipment on their Glock 17 gen 5, could they just change the trigger shoe? Sorry if I spammed this question, I couldn't find my old question to edit it haha.
So I did go with overwatch and an np3’d “-“ trigger bar on my g45 and it felt too light for my tastes. I ultimately went with an oem polished bar to cleanup grit but keep oem weight. I’m looking at the Johnny G’s combat system but boy is it expensive in total. Of course I want that sexy vex shoe but in order to have the complete system you need the striker as well and all the other stuff he hones to perfection. At the price I can only hope it’s perfect. I hate to not like it after spending 50% of what my pistol costs on just a trigger. But hey we all throw a 1/3 the pistol cost light on our pieces so why not, right?😊
Just bought my first Glock. I have many Glocks, never liked the blocky grip. The G30SF ain't bad, BUT the safety blade is like a RAZOR BLADE. It has to be changed out. I heard of the Glock Knuckle, but not the Glock Finger Slicer. Who makes a wider safety blade?
I just need all these Glocks can’t wait till Ammo and Gun prices drop back to normal. 9mm in my area .75 - 1.00 PR Glocks are 100-150 above normal also 😭
I had a poly dat trigger from overwatch precision trigger for 19 gen 4. Had to remove it. The trigger is thinner at the top where the trigger pins sits. When I’d engage my slide lock lever it would slide the trigger pin slightly out of the slide. Do the slide release having more wiggle room in that space. I chalked it up to my frames tolerances being loose. Then after a month of not carrying it. I took the trigger out and compared it with the stock oem trigger. Installed the oem back in and everything is back to normal. Don’t know if anyone has had the same problem. But I definitely will not be putting it back in my pistol. I do however have one for my gen 5 19 and 48 and have 0 problems. But with the 19 gen 4 i don’t understand why they’d change the dimensions of the shoe itself.
I just learned there has been a re design apparently of the shoe to make it usable on all generations . That is the issue I think you are talking about all of mine are previous to the change.
