So Much CHEAPER than a Traxxas or Arrma! Why?

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Decent RC Cars are expensive, but this NEW FTX Apache so much cheaper than a Traxxas Slash or Arrma Senton. Are they overpriced?
*motor is labelled wrong. It’s not a 3665 & May not be 2900kv. It is as labelled in the box and website (3652 2500kv)
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@TomleyRC Год назад

Update. The motor size and Kv looks to be 3652 2500kv, as the box says. End plate looks to be a mistake. I’ve let FTX know the mistake.

@mrmagoo.3678 Год назад

Shame, still.. Good for Bragging rights!.."My KV's bigger than Yours" 😊

@shadyhazza 7 месяцев назад

so even worse that it cogs then. didn't you stick a 3900kv 3650 in a 1/10 ftx a while back? and u were running it in grass. did they change the gear ratio? Edit - it was a 4500kv 3650 in an FTX Zorro on your brushless conversion guide, 2000kv more Edit again - so yeah the ramraider is 8.3:1 with a 2500kv motor, the carnage was 11.2:1 with a 2700kv

@rovidbouski4022 4 месяца назад

In the US the Senton is $329, the Slash vxl is $399 and the FTX Apache is $369

@MarkJohnMorris 4 месяца назад

@shadyhazza Its the pants ESC, stick a hobbywing 10bl120 and no cogging. Easy £30 fix ❤❤ awesome truck now mine is

@thatmadscientistfromny5362 3 месяца назад

Its more expensive than Arrma in the United States

@BlueDually4x4 Год назад

A couple pinions to adjust the gearing are a lot less than a battery. You really do a solid review on these more budget vehicles, pointing out the good and the bad. Also really good cinematography to go with it.

@kelevra558 Год назад

The chingaderis below the front facia is called a lower valance buddy. I'm actually really impressed with the way this thing behaves. It doesn't sound like a dog eating tortilla chips every time it lands or goes over some gravel. The suspension geometry seems to be squared away, as well as the coilovers seem to have the correct valving and oil viscosity which we all know is extremely rare in "budget" r/c cars. I'd say this one's a win 100%. Gonna buy one when I get home. I'll order everything I need to run 4s as well because, well like you said we NEED 50mph on 3 inch long grass. When in doubt, throttle out.

@alankowalski8781 Год назад

I think the most interesting thing about that truck is the chassis layout. There is so much room for activities as far as upgrading electronics. I don’t know why Traxxas can’t figure that out. You have to shoe horn in everything into those chassis’s. I see a nice Max 8 G2 and the 4S motor just slipping right in there.

@SpeccyMan 11 месяцев назад

FYI the plural of chassis is also chassis!

@rrrccc1571 Год назад

Definitely good value compared to the standard alternatives

@turtleneckferret Год назад

Dumb comment

@mattyghost3409 10 месяцев назад

It's good but there's an obvious difference in quality....It's no as balanced always turning over...

@VestedUTuber 5 месяцев назад

@@mattyghost3409 Slash 4x4 had the same issue before the LCG version came out. It's due to how high up the chassis is.

@Rebecca_The_Dragon Год назад

my favorite budget truck was the DHK Hunter back when Hobby People was alive and well. Same platform as the Turnigy Trooper and we all know how legendary that truck is.

@ryano8613 Год назад

Miss those so much!!

@chuco425 Год назад

1:54 it’s an air dam/valence, they are used to reduce drag on real trophy truck and off-road vehicles that have a sort of truck look to them and in Prerunner builds too when they chop most of the front bumper off for clearance with an off-road bumper

@carlbModels Год назад

awesome review, am looking at Sentons... but this is now a contender. Plus I like FTX for being the underdog that's becoming a big dog. Thanks for the upload 👍🍺🇬🇧

@rustlerboy Год назад

Got mine on order, getting back into the hobby after a few years. Had a few different r/c's but wanted something cheap to run about with. Looks a good decision.

@seedy-TV Год назад

I'm finally in a position to get back into doing the things I love and I'm so glad your still making videos 🤙

@TomleyRC Год назад

Nice!

@dankforest Год назад

I do love my senton though. I think I can get the brushed senton to 35 with a 3s high C. These do look super cool! I would like to see more FTX like the 28th scale or the rally hoon. They look like the wl toys but 40 bucks.

@rcaddictgarage Год назад

Solid platform i had a shorter wheelbase version of this. Only issues i had was rear driveshafts breaking from time to time.

@PistonheadAsh Год назад

The shutdown is a safety cutoff that Hobbywing seems to do. If you try 3 times to set off and it doesn't see the motor turn it simply shuts down til you cycle the power. I have a Max10 SCT and it does the same thing if grass is really long. Its less noticeable with smaller pinion as it can get going easier.

@Pablo668 Год назад

Good truck. One of the reasons I have a Slash is that I bought it 2nd hand. I happened to have the gear sitting around to get it going. Atm though, even 2nd hand prices are stupid high.

@stuartmcnamara9610 Год назад

It would be really interesting to see a long term test on one of these. We know the Arrma Senton is a very durable car. Just because this is cheaper, does not mean it is better value.

@Ilestun 4 месяца назад

People buy traxxas and arma also because of spare parts....,it's easy to find them be it original or aftermarket.

@robsrcjourney970 Год назад

Price range for what you get is spot on Phil. Value for money definitely. I paid £225 for a used traxxas slash 4x4 last year good condition but no lipo and no charger.

@austinrhubarb Год назад

Thanks for another great video Phil. A few of us are also still considering the Zorro. I know you have done some specific videos on the Zorro, but maybe you could do a detailed direct comparison of the two? Seeing how they both handle the same bits of terrain would be really helpful. I prefer the proportions of the shell on this one (something about the zorro just looks off proportion wise), BUT, personally I love a proper open cockpit (seeing the roll cage and the drivers) on cars and so having the basic type shell on this one is a step backwards for me.

@chrishorst1318 Год назад

Who is phil

@chrishorst1318 Год назад

Good idea the zorrow looks very nice as well.

@austinrhubarb Год назад

@@chrishorst1318 ... Phil is the guy you have just been watching in the video 😀

@Luke-en2tk Год назад

As for a little bit of cogging other than a better battery it might be worth re-calibrating the ESC as quite often they are not calibrated right

@shahidali619 Год назад

I've been waiting for this to be reviewed! Such a great little truck

@mikesmith8338 Год назад

Looks really nice. I have to admit I think I'd like to have a brushless zorro instead, though. Center diff being the reason...

@Rockatha Год назад

Great looking truck. I was really hoping for it to be FTXs version of the UDR. They really need to make one.

@mikemangiameli561 Год назад

Nice truck glad to see the hand.😅 do you know if there is any brass diff cover for the fire horse?

@MCsCreations Год назад

Fantastic bashing and review, Phil! 😃 I guess a heatsink and a fan on the motor wouldn't hurt. Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

@TomleyRC Год назад

Yes, that got a little hot on the grass!

@ruflasto1 Год назад

It's the same set up as my FS Racing victory. That came with paddle tyres. and i have had it for three years now and its still going strong..lol 👍

@chelmswoodjunction Год назад

Hello friend Great video as always been waiting for you to bring a video out on this new offering from ftx as I'm new back into the hobby I must admit I do like the ftx range as I have the zorro nitro version and the dr8 and that's a beast. I do like that you get everything in the box ready to go apart from charge. My question is would a higher mwah 3s lipo with higher c rating make this any faster maybe another video for you to look into. This could be on my radar as one to buy. Peter from Birmingham

@TomleyRC Год назад

Hi Peter. Yes, maybe a little more punch from a better quality Lipo. I think it really needs a slightly bigger motor to get the most out of it

@Cameron2874 Год назад

When are you doing an upgrade video. Cant wait to see that as own one now after watching this in action. Please provide links for parts when you do. Keep up the great work.

@planetcyberton Год назад

This is the one I've been waiting for! Thank you 😊

@muskokamike127 Год назад

seems like it'd be a good platform for the IROC errr IROYT (international race of you tubers) do a real trophy truck course, on/off road with some wet and dry....that'd be a hoot to watch.

@lukef5370 Год назад

Yeah, I got my Senton 3S for $279 a while back. I think they're about $330 now. That's a super decent price for coming with a 3S battery.

@TomleyRC Год назад

Yeah, they were a good price a while back!

@lancephelps4871 Год назад

Good afternoon Mr. Tomley, I am in the USA I have always wanted to get my hands on one of these FTX. However I don't know anybody right now at this time that carries the spares for this company. I was wondering if maybe you could point me in the right direction about making that change. Thanks again, Lance. As always your videos are great.

@reitplace4765 Год назад

Great little truck. I like that they are almost 1/2 the price. I feel the same way about the REMO ROcket 1/16 price is right... Thanks for sharing..👍

@TomleyRC Год назад

Yes… lots out there if you search around

@TheRCBuildersPost Год назад

I see a lot of team associated similarities 🤔😂. Looks like an awesome little chassis! I'm gonna order one. I've never had any trouble out of the few ftx I've gotten my hands on

@alantaylor353 Год назад

Nice.. I've been waiting for this one.!

@frazierfraz4040 2 месяца назад

Also the Helion Ivitcus yup the a arms are off the Dominus 10 TR great rig it was my very first rc car

@kaosr.c Год назад

What an awesome truck , hope these become easily available here in Australia

@insanelewis21 Год назад

looks a great little truck, will be a nice up grade for my kids. up from like brushless tracers etc or perhaps they would be better with mt10s?

@scottblowers9592 Год назад

That looks like a great truck again from ftx. How does it compare to the older brushless ftx zorro? Would it be worth me trading mine in for this?

@RCManiacs Год назад

Looks like a nice truck, great value with the included battery

@andrewentwistle9694 Год назад

Your action montages are consistently absolutely top drawer, mate.. I could literally watch a whole video of just that.. 👍

@TomleyRC Год назад

cheers dude... appreciate it. Unfortunately people get bored quickly on montages, so I've been slowly cutting them down over the last couple of years... but have to throw some short ones in to showcase the action :)

@andrewentwistle9694 Год назад

@@TomleyRC you've just got it nailed.. Slowed down to just the right speed.. Getting yourself in low for that perfect angle.. They're a joy to watch..

@chriswatts9227 Год назад

@@andrewentwistle9694 I guess he knows from his view stats where people stop watching, even if that isn't everyone

@Wreckedekcoupe Год назад

I would be interested in seeing what the diffs look like and the material they are made out of. Tbh it looks like a solid ripper for the price.

@SteveSoper1979 Год назад

agreed. I'm assuming metal diff gears but it'd be nice to know for sure. Does anybody at this point still do plastic? I've had an FTX before. I liked it. Only downfall here in the states is if I brake something, I have to wait 2-3 weeks before I get a replacement part. But if you're not in a hurry, they're a good value. Side note: It looks like the motor mount on this one is plastic. That's a bit of a bummer.

@frogslayer4849 Год назад

@@SteveSoper1979 @32 seconds into the video the box says "metal bevel geared differentials"

@wolfiecrawlsrc58 Год назад

I have a senton, because I’m not a traxxas fan at all based on personal experiences with 2 of their products, they don’t get a 3rd chance. But I’d probably have bought this over it for the price point, and because I prefer the colour (orange). But ultimately because I had to buy a (decent) charger and lipo(s) and that added over £150. That all said, I do enjoy the Senton, 50mph on a freshly mowed meadow is easy to achieve, and the few breakages are easy to get replaced. I’m also surprised that I don’t have a single FTX in my collection, but I am sure that will change. Oh and pillow ball hubs is definitely a great idea, should be able to reduce the slop the Senton is famous for.

@dub_rider Год назад

great to see another good SCT on the market, this one looks to be a bargain for the money!

@troypfuhl14 Год назад

Phil, just watched on me PHONE(not Roku) why I don't understand is how some are more expensive 😫, and the less expensive seem to be as good or even better than the other. Cheers Tomley, Troy 😎

@chrishorst1318 Год назад

I luv the reference to "the Proclaimers song" i can tell we r same age. Good times. nice vid you got me considering buying this as my 2nd sc truck w/ my 1 current sc truk being the rgt terminator i bought based upon ur review...but it let me down in many ways. At least its price was low tho . i want the reely rat max but id honestly consider this 1 in place of it. Especially bc its so hard to get any reely in usa. I love EU rc but none will cum to usa. I cant blame em tho.

@mehimrc1314 Год назад

Well priced for what you get 99% RTR, you gave it some rips and flips took alot for a pivot ball to pop. I say good deal if the parts are available 👍

@TomleyRC Год назад

Yes, in the UK there not much else for that price that’s as durable. Apart from other FTX short course 😅

@philthyco1 Год назад

Its the fs racing victory x chassis or Helion Invictus chassis

@philthyco1 Год назад

Rpm makes arms for this chassis

@gameinsane8984 Месяц назад

My fav tv truck is the hpi savage xs flux I’ve owned 2 both broke from being faulty however my friend has one and it’s taken so much pushing and not a single thing broke in 4 years of bashing I decided to get a hpi e firestorm flux that lasted about a week before the slipper clutch burnt out had to replace it nearly every 2nd run

@AllOrNoneR.C. Год назад

Reminds me more of my Team Associated ProSC10 as well as the senton. Gotta put this one on the list after their big mustang

@SpringWoodsRC Год назад

Looks great me an lee are liking are trophy truck great video buddy 😊👍🙋‍♂️

@SteveSoper1979 Год назад

11:30. I love rebrands for part support since they all fit largely. You mentioned it's a platform other manufacturers use. Can you or does anybody know what those make & models are? Thx.

@Luke-en2tk Год назад

Helion but they don't exist anymore, the Rival MT10 is also Helion

@shaunodriscoll Год назад

Went back and had a look at the Lokatan as I missed it before and I’m very taken by it! They have obviously worked out an excellent platform and pretty damn cheep . Question is could I sneak another car in without my wife finding out! 😂😂

@ryano8613 Год назад

I will if you do lol

@shaunodriscoll Год назад

@@ryano8613 🤣🤣🤣

@Luke-en2tk Год назад

Not had many breakages on the Ramraider, mostly the hubs had no driveshaft issues I'm guessing they sorted it

@theminiatureconstructionco4556 Год назад

Brother bought the Ramraider recently. And I was quite impressed by the quality and the price! 👍

@CJM46 Год назад

Nice vid, think I might get one I really fancy something for abit of off roading

@danielserrano343 Год назад

Interesting, but does it replace the Zorro Brushless? Same scale stadium super truck with full independent suspension, etc?

@mikebird8290 Год назад

Hi Phil another great value rc you have brought to us sir. I also luke the Element. Take care hope you have a great weekend SIR 🇬🇧👍🏼🤩✌🏼

@TomleyRC Год назад

Cheers Mike. You too

@MrLilredmachine Год назад

Got mine coming in orange as well, looks great. I wish that FTX sold these as a bare chassis without all the brushless gear, battery and charger for a cut rate so you could install your own brushless system. I have a Rokatan, Ramraider and Apache (pre ordered) i really don't have need of the same underspecced, hot running, over geared brushless system three times over. The Ram raider is useless for a good second after pulling the trigger and won't run on long grass. Needs a potent brushless system upgrade.

@TomleyRC Год назад

Yes, a roller at a reasonable price would sell pretty good

@MrLilredmachine Год назад

@@TomleyRC you seem to have good sway with them Phil, any chance of having a quiet word about getting a roller versions of the Rokatan/Ramraider chassis specs like a few of the other brands are doing these days? One of these with a full fat hobbywing max 10 in it would be wonderful. Problem is having to pay the extra for the stock system in the first place removes the 'budget' appeal of the trucks as replacing it puts you at the Arrma price point.

@TomleyRC Год назад

@@MrLilredmachine I will certainly pass on the request :)

@MrLilredmachine Год назад

@@TomleyRC Thank you! And great work on the continued informative and fun vids. 👌

@SharkysGarageRCandMore Год назад

Awesome, will the body post mounts fit a rokatan ?? Tempted to buy a blue body and posts to fit to mine.....

@b.s.4478 3 месяца назад

Hello Phil, I'm looking for a nice brushless 2WD short course. I'm looking at the HPI jumpshot sc flux, Team Associated Pro2 SC10 and Arrma Senton 4x2 (w/ brushless upgrade later on). Which one do you recommend? I valor handling and durability (and low maintenance cost). If you have any other recommendation, let me know :) Thanks and cheers from Portugal.

@doubledome2076 Год назад

Do you need 50mph? Of course you do! Great video ‼️👍👍🦾🦾

@stevekeiron30 Год назад

Looks like the 1:10th scale Mojave we've all unknowingly waiting for 😍

@qrisemrc Год назад

It is a small but fairly fast and powerful RC car. Jumping is nice too. Roasting is nice too.😁😁😁

@johnerion8691 7 месяцев назад

Hi Phil ,been watching you for about a year. Started with the mjx stuff. Looking for something 1/10 scale now. Just wanted to k ow will this run on 4s as well ? Thanks

@aaronjohnson8365 Год назад

Definitely getting this to go with my Mojave EXB 😊

@rarest_dude Год назад

Woah! Absolutely rips! I might get one

@nic.25 Год назад

I was waiting for a review on this truck and it looks very good but I think I will still get the FTX Zorro that I was planning to get.

@TomleyRC Год назад

Brushless Zorro is very good

@bashemrc6871 Год назад

That’s the same exact chassis and setup as the old helion dominus 10sc v2 that’s crazy. Helion been discontinued for years now. It’s was a good setup though.

@davidhiscock1969 Год назад

That looks like it will be a fun truck to run 👍 . Saw the Rokatan when we called into Jadlam and really tempted

@TomleyRC Год назад

Rokatan is really good. Put some thicker body posts on and it will be decent

@davidhiscock1969 Год назад

@@TomleyRC cheers Phil

@lavaboy2811 3 месяца назад

Great to get your kit up and save money i see it for £260 on modelsport today hmm thanks for this one 👍🏼

@rcplaytime Год назад

Been waiting for you to do this sct,orange looks better than the blue,for me anyway, i absolutely love this truck,senton is awesome but this is such a good price and you get a light bar and battery 👌😃😃😃😃👍👍👍👍

@TomleyRC Год назад

Yes, really good price for us in the UK, and I think with a little gearing tune, it will be much better. Or even a slightly bigger motor

@andrewwadas2180 Год назад

Phil what are the differences and pros/cons to FTX’s other 1/10 brushless trophy truck offering the ZORRO? Can ya do a vid?

@rhynecars Год назад

I had this truck/buggy under it's prior brand name - Helion Dominus. Great value overall. Trade offs are: the arms are more brittle and break at the hinge pins The drive shafts are dog bones all around and they bend and pop out The turning circle is poor, probably because of the axles not being CVDs Suspension is too stiff, needs softer springs and very thin oil, I had to use 15 weight.

@philthyco1 Год назад

I'm sorry but this chassis was not used on the Dominus to my knowledge..The Dominus used the metal chassis..Other parts are shared though.

@Luke-en2tk Год назад

There may have been some changes like this comes with CVD's on the front and suspension setup looks very good. I'm not sure if they are the same shocks as the Rokatan has smaller shocks which bounce a lot like you say

@rhynecars Год назад

@@philthyco1 I should clarify the Helion Dominus Pro had the composite tub chassis. The standard Dominus was the plate aluminum.

@philthyco1 Год назад

@@rhynecars Got it..I had the metal chassis one and its oem the fs racing marauder

@kenmastersmaster Месяц назад

Where can I get dog bones for my dominus

@melmyrtle5765 Год назад

I love your vids been watching a long time I must say with all due respect you kind of give me that James may vibe of the RC world awesome Great truck great video thanks again for an awesome channel

@TomleyRC Год назад

Captain slow... not sure if that's complement or insult hahaha

@melmyrtle5765 Год назад

@@TomleyRC totally a compliment how can you not love him Just the reviews he does on vehicles are awesome I still love to watch the old top Gear days

@TomleyRC Год назад

@@melmyrtle5765 yeah he’s funny haha. The best of the 3 I reckon

@jerzinho92 Год назад

Question is : is the car steong enough? are spare parts easily available ? If you cant run your car after a small crash or if you have to wait a month, its a waste of money.

@TheSpiderm0nkey Год назад

What a smashing little trophy truck. Well done FTX 😊

@pug2451 11 месяцев назад

At the time of watching this to decide which truck to get without breaking the bank. I looked it up because you said it was even cheaper the. The arma, which it is not. But it does come with a battery so those two are very close to each other. But being like a $20 difference why not just get the arrma? I do like the body and light bar on the Apache tho

@StonerGamingParadise Год назад

The tread wear on the tires look the same as Pro-Line trenchers. Would that body fit on a Senton?

@polishguywithhardtospellna8227 Год назад

Some people get so Lucky when one platform is being reused for so many years

@Rek_Rc Год назад

That thing will be a HIT. Maybe not as fast as a Senton or a Slash out of the box, but that's an easy fix, and it comes with a 3s and a charger? AMAZING, I really like it! It looks a lot like a Senton in motion.

@sammyatthewheel Год назад

you should do ftx apache vs zorro vs arrma senton and any other 1/10 scale trophy trucks youve got lying around

@Luke-en2tk Год назад

Be great to see that, might be one for the Popalong RC boys as they love their SC's

@0xpadx0 Год назад

Convenient I'm actually looking for a trophy/short course truck at the moment. But the prices are a bit offputting, especially the 4x4 brushless lol

@roblapouple7552 Год назад

U get what u pay for ... Quality lasts cheap doesn't

@RacerX888 Год назад

Probably because unlike Canada and the USA, the retail markup on RC vehicles isn't 100% above wholesale?

@coyster530 Год назад

But how is Parts reliability for this to have to order them off of the internet or can you get them at your local hobby shop I know here in the US or a lot of these cars we have to get parts offline

@TomleyRC Год назад

FTX is a UK brand... available at most of our hobby shops

@spoolyboi9434 Год назад

The thing you get with traxxas or arrma is a plethora of stock and quality aftermarket parts in any hobby shop or on most RC websites, cheap stuff is cool if you cant afford the namebrand or its for a kid youre not sure will enjoy it but anyone else just buy something namebrand itll outlast the cheap stuff and if its a popular platform will be around for years and the parts will be too.

@toddbertram6556 Год назад

Wow, straight snatching the trencher mold on those tires

@DESOUSAB Год назад

Big difference between "cheap" and "inexpensive". This unit looks "inexpensive". If you had run it and it had smashed itself to pieces it would be "cheap".

@danweiss1371 Год назад

How can you go wrong for rc fun. My son just bought one he loves it but he did break front a arm second jump. ! No fault of the car. Super hard landing on one front tire.

@pbruteforce1 7 месяцев назад

The chassis design though a little longer let's suspiciously like my old helion Invictus . I wonder if the parts are interchangeable 🤔

@RevoRob007 5 месяцев назад

Never heard of this brand before so I have to question the spare parts availability. Apart from that, the truck looks pretty good.

@wikyWargaming Год назад

FTX had better watch out; Traxxas gonna sue them for using a blue too close to theirs. 😅

@twinklinglicin Год назад

per Amazon (and my local hobby shop) the 3s Senton BLX is 'only' $339 American. Perhaps just the pound conversion you showed but it's not over $400.

@matthewbird6931 8 месяцев назад

If it hasn’t already been said, this looks to be the same truck as the Helion dominus v2. I bought the helion for my son and think it’s a very clean truck.

@michaeldorich4485 Год назад

You put the truck through some tough tests. It appears to be a very good truck. You get a lot for the money.

@TomleyRC Год назад

Agree 👌

@lunseren Год назад

That’s a good Price, looks awesome! (Like the hilux?)

@peteaponoves Год назад

This looks identical to my Helion Invictus 10MT. I'd bet the parts interchange!

@Atlas_FPV 2 месяца назад

Does anyone know if the Apache bodyshell will fit on a Senton? Its an amazing looking body and cheap to buy.

@roblowrie1969 Год назад

How does it compare side by side with the brushless Zorro platform? I'm guessing that this will take over from the Zorro now? I also wonder if that body would fit the Zorro chassis, as it's much meaner looking!! 🤔👍🏻

@Silent47 Год назад

Was about to ask the same TIA

@TomleyRC Год назад

I may put this side by side. But I think the Zorro mate have a little more power. This has more suspension

@EighTeeNOFivE Год назад

I was also thinking how this would compare to the brushless Zorro?

@EighTeeNOFivE Год назад

Looks great but FTX needs to give us a rally body version!

@CELL7GAMING 11 месяцев назад

@tomleyRC ,novice question, forgive me you said the car is 99% ready to run out of the box so what is the 1%?

@Losi5t20 Год назад

That's really good deal. Handle very well.

@SnarkyRC Год назад

Looks like they bought the molds from the Helion Invictus. The only RC that was honorable to carry the name Apache was made by HPI. That desert buggy was a beast.