@@slivorywings2821 what I would do you k ow the magic muffin I get 1 rule free wish (except a better tasting muffin) what is stopping me for wishing whenever I say muffin I get another one and since it is the same it ain’t better tasting and then and my next muffin wish to have them forever since they did say the muffin magic is stronger than fairy don’t think they can take it away
I can see why Timmy is selfish and demanding cause he is what you call a child with no respect for the rules and no understanding of right and wrong due to no parental guidance and teachings like he forcibly wished for cosmo and Wanda to have poof and then he had the audacity to wish cosmo while pregnant with poof away long story short Timmy a bad kid but it’s almost like it’s his parents fault that he’s selfishly bad
Yeah I think everybody did but that's why they were his godparents it was their job that he was happy while point them in the right direction in life that is what godparents actually do they help you when you need them and they point you in the right direction so you don't make the wrong decisions Wanda is very good with that but Cosmo is like that cool uncle you always wanted😂
If I had as awful of a childhood as Timmy I’d make that wish too. His real parents are neglectful, his babysitter is a monster, his friends are unreliable, his teacher is a stalker, and he’s the laughing stock of the Dimmsdale Student Body. Cosmo and Wanda (mostly Wanda) are the only REAL family he’s ever had
Makes me feel sad that in what would seem as an innocent cartoon show, Timmy doesn't really have anyone until Cosmo and Wanda appear and scared to lose them as they are his only family, he finds a way to keep them forever, Idk if the show was written with that intention but Timmy really goes through some traumatic shit
i like how people copium with these ''well is justifield his live sucked his tacher is bad his parent is goffy his friends areunrealiable blah blah'' dude that's is just bad live but IT IS NOT ENOHT TO LITERALLY STOP TIME ITSELF
I really feel like this either should have been the finale or never happened at all how could the show possibly just continue as normal after its revealed the main character is a 60 something year old man
Easy, you just gotta tweak the theme song a bit: Timmy is a older man, who no one understands. Trapped the whole world in time, so his fairies stayed with him! (NO RULEZ!) Doom and Gloom up in his room, exploits Cosmo’s stupidity He makes a secret wish and tells him to forget. Now in reality no one ages, no one ever ages. No elderly or any new babies! No one ages, no one ever ages Not mom. Not dog No one, nuh uh! He doesn’t need an excuse, after all whats to lose? Time’s fake your mistake, never dies, conquers fate! No one ages, no one ever ages To fit in just stay a kid, don’t lose Your fairly oddparents (Yeah, right)
Look at it from Timmy's perspective. He has a miserable life even compared to most of the godkids seen in the show. He is a stranger in his own home with extremely neglectful and idiotic parents. Is at the bottom of the food chain at school and the friends he does have tend to waver between extremely close or casual in regards to their friendship, though to be fair Timmy is also in that boat when it comes to them too. And then there is Vicky, enough said there. Crocker and Chester at least had a supportive and loving parent. Remy was lonely but if Chester could get Fairies for being poor, Remy could just counseling or a chance to make friends instead of get Wandicimo. Cosmo, Wanda and Poof are the only family he's really got.
He had it semi rough but to have fairy god parents for as long as he did made no sense. He was literally meeting celebs and getting his name out there. He was happier than Chester was halfway through the series. They should have taken away his fairies then give them over to one of the thousands of orphans we saw in the christmas episode.
Wasn't it implied he would lose his fairies way over being 16-17. Which pretty much enough to get rid of crocker and Vicky should be taking care of him
If Timmy grew up, he could just get out of that house and move on with his life. Or he could just wish for more attentive parents and that Vicky would be fired and replaced with a better babysitter. Instead he condemmed himself to perpetual misery, wishing for insane shit that backfires and driving himself insane. This is really a dark situation that Timmy created not just for himself but for everyone else, and for what? No. Your reasoning doesnt hold water. Timmy just managed to fuck up his life even more. This should constitute some kind of human rights violation.
Don't forget the mental and emotional trauma of knowing without a shadow of a doubt that if Timmy didn't exist literally everyone lives would be better off. From his parents to his friends, even his enemies. Oh and he found this out in the middle of trying to show appreciation for said people by the way.
I feel like Fairly Oddparents could easily be rewritten to become a psychological horror with Timmy going from an abused kid to a sociopath who doesn't want to let go of his fairies
Kind of makes you wonder why he didn’t wish to become a fairy and be adopted by Cosmo and Wanda so that he could stay with them forever and help kids who were in his situation in the future. I think there was an episode where he was a fairy already but I feel with this plot it may finally bring closure to the series (again) and help him finally mature.
Yeah that sounds like a perfect ending. Maybe coulda been a sequel to this episode where after some chasing shenanigans across the time that everyone missed out on bc of the wish, Timmy gets an idea and begs to be sent back and made into a fairy instead of losing his. Then we get the epilogue of 20yrs later with Poof being normal sized (for a fairy) and Timmy reenacting a similar introduction that Timmy had with emphasis on how they’re “brothers” and some comedic relief to end it all out with anti-Timmy appearing out of nowhere and saying something quippy
But then what about his parents and his friends? He would be leaving them all behind. Also, they wouldn’t be able to drain the franchise for all its worth like they are doing now.
@Mocha Man Plays oh no an anti-timmy would basically become the most unlucky event to ever happen in theor universe thinking about it he'd be a selfless creature that caused destruction and mayhem trying to help anybody without learning what he does as bad yikes
@@lugiamastero13 I honestly didn’t think about that haha, would a human turned fairy even have an anti fairy? He had been turned into one before but I don’t think the anti fairy’s were a created yet. Then again this concept would cause more episodes or another movie meaning the franchise may never actually die like expected.
@@basic6735 Timmy could always just wish those ailments away, or wish for effective treatments and cures to be found. In real life, we are literally on the cusp of various treatments that reverse aging and would allow people to live decades or maybe even centuries longer in youthful state with good health. Though it probably would have been more effective to just wish that the fairy rules would change or just not apply to him, so that time could move forward with him keeping his fairy godparents and their wishes.
I blame the crappy system that wipes the memories of children as if their fantastical adventures never happened. It's basically gaslighting but on a major scale. I know it was a common trope in cartoons back then to keep a secret fantastical adventure from everyone somehow but I think it's definitely worn its welcome.
I know right!? How can people be expected to grow if they're not allowed to learn from the bad and good and mistakes which lead to emotional maturity when memory wipe is around the corner!?
If they allowed the kids to keep their memories those kids would grow up with wonderful memories that could give them the hope they need. The adventures could also be good stories for their children. These fairies could even save lives you never know once these kids turn into teens because they never had that feeling of love and happiness might become suicidal.
They should’ve just made them think they were dreams. Really how different are these adventures from any other dream. It makes complete sense, since no one else really knows they exist. Overtime you’d be forced to accept the fact..
Can't blame the reason for the wish. Timmy's constantly neglected by his parents, bullied by his sitter, and his teacher don't seem any better. If the only people who'll listen to his woes are two fairies, why would he want to give them up to the ravages age?
To be fair a lot of those problems would be solved if he just grew up. He's 10. In a few years he won't need a babysitter anymore, he's got about 8 years of school left, and then he can get the hell out of Dimmsdale and never see his parents again if he so chooses. Take this fact along with the channel chasers movie. When he was aged up it was revealed he would have godparents longer than most other kids, until his mid teens. That would be about 3 years until adulthood with no fairies. He can deal.
@XxPeaceNinjaxX When he gets older he won't even remember cosmo and wanda all his memories will be wiped so the existence of fairest and that he used to have 3 would be unknown to him
@@XxPeaceNinjaxX the idea having to live 3 years with a sadistic babysitter that constantly threatens my life, neglectful parents who sometimes legit forgot they have a son, and a school with a comically aggressive bully who seemingly gets away with beating the breaks out of me on a daily basis would absolutely make me fear losing my fairies
@@XxPeaceNinjaxX Considering the problems Timmy has in his life, he's not living to be an adult. Either his bully or babysitter will murder him before he's 18.
He's not a horrible godkid, more like he has trauma from abuse from his family and babysitter. Those fairies are his parents and he knows he will lose them forever and any memory of them would be removed. If anything that's cruel and unusual punishment, They gave him a real family that genuinely cared about him and watched his every move, Timmy is a special case and those special cases should have their family forever and when they get older, at least remove the wishes but, save the family.
@@megaultradamnUmmm, yes and no. Because people like you still try to think of those kids as adults while ignoring reality. Reality says his brain has not fully developed, that includes the frontal Lobe. Also, he’s not horrible, Timmy actually feels remorse and usually tries to make amends when he does something wrong. Try again.
Daamn that's some deep lore. The entire show is lived in a moment between time where nobody ever ages, and no kid is probably ever supposed to be able to make it to one million wishes because of the time restraints of being a kid, so it's super weird in fairy land that timmy has been able to make so many.
And since he will get older, I believe Timmy soon decides to wish for time to move normally after the show ended and thus we get the ending of channel chasers
I agree, but labeling him as the 'worst' godkid is a stretch since he wasn't the one who caused the events of the first two world wars to happen. Edit: Since people are confused about my statement Wanda stated to the child that she and Cosmo looked after before Timmy that the child had misused their power to assassinate an important political which lead the world into World War 1. Then after that was ended the events of the world transpired into World War 2 hence why I said the first two world wars.
@@def3ndr887 Because prior to it, they were never shown empathy and love during the period where they suffered so badly to warrant fairy godparents. A kid unloved by the village will burn it down to feel it’s warmth. A very common and very real proverb. Only fantastical creatures ever loved them. Why would they ever see humans in the same light as the ones who saved them? From that point on, they see themselves on the same plain as their saviors (the fairy godparents) and thus all others as worthless.
I mean, on the whole, it was better for everybody. Everyone had immortality, and they traded that…so that they could get old and die?! Usually the only downside to living forever is watching your loved ones die, but they didn’t have to deal with that.
50+ years and he still gets major Fs in all his tests he doesn't go through massive shenanigans to achieve success in. Boy goes through the same school and probably same problems for 50 years and still fails nearly every test.
I think stopping time from moving forward was either implied or the writers later thought of it because other people would get suspicious that 5 or more years has passed and they haven’t aged. And Timmy can’t have people be suspicious
Heck father time made things worse in a sense. Everyone o. Earth especially timmys friends and family immediately noticed they were 50 yrs. Older and there was the gag that no one knew how to work their devices. That not really a good state to leave people in after a time freeze. You'd think they'd still experience time having moved forward, but no it's like waking up in a place you've never been to/heard of
That's when the show aired. But to calculate Timmy being 60 not 10 in 2024 that means he was born in the year 1964... Meaning Timmy was 10 in 1974 @@DaniaApfel. BUT to calculate the year from the show being aired in 1991, he was born in 1931 (if Timmy made his secret wish in 1991 he was born in 1931, he was 10 in 1941.) But for this to pan out, it would mean technology kept advancing as usual because no one is using an ice box to store food or using a pay phone to make calls in the tv show lol. Infact they have smart phones and HD tvs
Two things: 1) have you met the kid's parents and babysitter? It's a wonder that cps hasn't yoinked him at this point. 2) how has no one noticed 50 years go by without anything changing?
Most people dont pay any particular attention to the goings on around them. I can absolutely see it being a case of "Nobody else is talking about it, im not going to say anything."
I’m pretty sure it’s just the writers being lazy and not wanting to factor that into the story. Let’s be real, for this to even be green lit just means the writers and director didn’t give a flying fuck about Timmy’s character.
Perhaps an aspect of the wish is that nobody (except Timmy) correctly remembers how much time has actually passed. It may be possible that they can only (properly) remember the past several months, maybe a year or two, as a way to protect the secret wish.
Honestly, in the episode "Abra-catastrophe", where Timmy is celebrated for having kept his fairies a secret for a full year, and Jorgan presented Timmy with a magic muffin that grants ANY rule-free wish... He should have wished to be able to keep Cosmo and Wanda as his fairies forever.
I mean, remember that Rick and Morty episode where Rick when back to him home universe and this guy had a bunch of letters from himself about living the same hellish day over and over again? Is that not worse than WW1 ? Sure we have a reference for one and not the other but an entire planet is suffering. There's no way to win, no way to make it stop. There is only the eternal year. Wars end. Time stops don't.
He wished away every living thing besides the girl he liked and his fairies so that she would be with him. He was perfectly content to leave the world like that until Trixie got too clingy and turned violent. WWI only killed 20 million. Timmy wiped out 8 *BILLION* humans and an unknown number of extraterrestrial lifeforms (he deliberately did so because an alien hit on Trixie). While he undid the wish, he did so for his own good. He didn't miss his friends or family. He didn't reflect on the enormity of his actions. He didn't feel bad about Trixie's obvious mental instability until it threatened his own wellbeing. Timmy was a monster.
I had sympathy for Timmy before the episode we figured out that he kinda ruined Crocker’s life. And because he unknowing destroyed it, kinda turned Crocker into a power sources that fuels Fairy World. And then they used all the crazies obsessed with finding the existence of fairies all over the world, and let’s not talk about how they all look like a family member of Crocker.
And since he will get older, I believe Timmy soon decides to wish for time to move normally after the show ended and thus we get the ending of channel chasers
Really makes you wonder about the Channel Chasers movie. Was the ending after 60+ years of the wish finally being undone? How long did it take Timmy to finally let go and grow up? Then again, the movie makes more sense if you just believe it ti be the end of the show canonically in the timeline. Still, just imagine the consequences. Everyone else’s lives stuck in limbo without them realizing it. Also, if there is a Fairy Consul that makes all the rules and officiates trials and laws, is Jorgan an enforcer at this point?
I always thought that he is enforcer of lower rank, I mean in case of something for fairies to be solved easily, he shows up, said what is happening and gives a child chance to repent. While for harder crimes goes to Tribunal. Besides, he has some knd of soft spot for Timmy. In one of episodes he saw how Timmy is treated and he said that his life is miserable and he would need his Godparents for a long, long time.
Technically he might have to enforce the rules when it comes to Cosmo. They are cousins. Yes Jorgen and Cosmo are cousins though we don’t get that detail until many many seasons later. Or meet nana boom boom Jorgen at one point was Cosmo superior in the Fairy Military academy. Cosmo and Wanda when they get to Timmy were still on level 13 probation. Jorgen lost stars off his rank because Cosmo sunk Atlantis and other various civilizations in turmoil and somehow created Pittsburg. You think I be shittposting but this is legit what happens in shorthand notes off what I remember from this show.
can you really blame him for making his wish? His parents neglect him to the point where when Timmy wished to *never be born* he saw that his parents were HAPPIER without him around, and he lived with that memory. The kid basically asked for suicide and saw that it would be better for those around him. Frankly, given his parents basically not thinking of him as someone worth their time and the other people making his life a living hell (a stalker teacher, unreliable friends and a sadistic babysitter) I feel like it's a bloody miracle Timmy didnt end up doing something far worse. Kid probably would've ended up committing murder if it wasnt for his fairy godparents being the only family he has. Even so...they try their best but they aren't replacements for everything in his life, and fairies don't abide by the same rules as humans when it comes to aging or society. Theres always some disconnect and I dont think you can fully blame Timmy or them when you realize...well...nobody is really able to teach him how to be a good or selfless person.
His godparents were infinitely better than his birth parents. I really don't blame him for making that wish. When you think about it, he also gave more time for other godkids with their godparents
Timmy wouldn't be so selfish, if everyone else in his family wasn't so terrible to him. The fairy godparents want to break that cycle, but even they are having problems as well. If Timmy lived long enough and aged to being a teenager, he'd use his Fairyversary muffin to pull off a Columbine, or something far worse, concerning TImmy's history.
Do not blame Timothy for doing something that he should not have been able to do if people were smart .Da Rulez says you can not add like a single extra seat to a stadium for a day to see a show but fucking with the flow of Time for the Entire Universe is allowed because no one thought to ban it .
Well, the pilot version of him (season 0?) WAS fairly smart, or at least crafty. The original issue was his wand was buggy. So that actually lines up pretty well.
@@gluttonousgoddess Cosmo in the pilot was Street Smart while Wanda was Book Smart and I thought it was a really good idea instead of dumbing down cosmo more and more
@@-Dazwischen yes it can be logical and can be incorporated into the series well, I don’t like how they made him the next Patrick of to the point where “he’s suppose to be dumb” is the punchline.
I don't think it was that bad, he prevented aging. Kept everyone young and happy, stopped the perpetual march toward the cliff edge that we are all on. He gave those with very little time a lot of it. And honestly, who could say that they would make any different decisions in his place? Your aging loved ones, wouldn't you want a little more time with them if you could?
Damn that's just heartbreaking tbh He was so desperate for family that he would damn everyone else, even though he technically already had a family... But they were never there for him.... Yikes
Ten years would’ve been more in line with the show’s real age then. Plus, it might’ve been a chance for Butch Hartman to adapt some of his ten years later ideas to screen
Let's be honest with the school system like timmy's, parents, abusive babysitter, and even his so-called best friends are kind of terrible I don't blame him for doing any of that that's a smart idea to keep the only people who actually care about him nearby
I mean immortality and perpetual life with the people that I care about in exchange gif some shmuck staying 10 and having magic god parents …. That seems like a sweet deal to me.
True, but no aging. Unless ur a fairy, no kids. Not old enough to drink? Too bad , that birthday will never come. Have injuries that will heal in a year with physical therapy, too bad. Approved for housing next year while being homeless? Too bad.
@@silverswan2673 Meh, alcoholic drinks are just pure poison. It has no benefit at all sad to say about that one. Not being forced to pay taxes without having responsible politicians in your own country? couldn't be me!
Ah, Rick Sanchez did the exact same thing in Rick and Morty but he wasn't actually there to watch the universe suffer forever while he kept it to torture himself about the death of his wife... That was hardly the worst thing he did
Honestly surprised nobody else did this but I guess with the rules of people getting fairies, they’re generally more morally righteous, just down on their luck. Yeah Bucksaplenty isn’t the most morally correct but not the most corrupt because he didn’t wish to rule capitalism or something (and didn’t do this). I guess this was them having a wrong judgement on Timmy. Tbh this episode would’ve been a great finale though… a lot of their specials would’ve made awesome finales.
Timmy isn't the worst. He's one of the best. He just came from an emotionally abusive home. Cosmo and Wanda are the only real family he has and he didn't want to lose them. Timmy's a good kid.
When you don't watch the show with a deeper understanding, you understand that Timmy wasn't a bad Godkid. 1.) His parents. They constantly neglect him and borderline abuse him, they ignore his pleas for help, and then constantly mocks him. Not only that, remember the episode that Timmy wished he was never born. Imagine seeing your parents more happy because you weren't born. That's gotta scar you for life. 2.) Vicky. An abusing babysitter. Not much to say. 3.) Friends that only care when he's popular. 4.) School bully. 5.) And the only people that care about him are his fairies. So of course he wouldn't want to give them up. He doesn't want to be alone again
Honestly their job must be so emotionally draining. You look after these kids and once they grow up not only are they not a part of your life anymore, they don’t remember you or anything that happened. They probably see it differently as they made a positive impact on those kids lives regardless, but it’d be hard being forgotten like that
Just, dude, make a bunch of wishes before you turn 18 so that you can start your adult life as a demigod chad with a lot of money (Or stuff that can easily be made into money like a particular resource if that's against da rulez) and win at life.
@@jvanimation9520 You mean like freezing time with a secret wish? Man, if only someone in the series got away with doing something as rule breaking as that with virtually no consequences for over a few decades…
*Gives 10-year-old unlimited power" "wow how selfish for them to wish for a FAMILY without knowing decades of consequences" bruh he's literally a child lol
If you forget everything good that your fairies made happen when you get too old what's the point of having them again? Or do those memories just get replaced in subtle ways?
God this singular special's twist destroys like everything the show bulit up and the channel chasers movie whole point of timmy needing to grow up and leaving his god parents behind when he gets older and dosen't need them anymore This is defintely the worst episode of the whole show from the stupid show ruining twist.
in defence he could've for the channel chasers been the very first attempt to keep his faries forever before making the secret wish since timmy says he wasn't supposed to grow up being in the t.v. yes eventually as shown he let's go of that, but that's just the show ending off on the way future. But right now he probably found another way around it, by literally breaking the rules after the channel chasers was a bust for him.
@@savageratentertainment timmy learns at the end of channel chasers it's gonna suck he'll eventually lose his fairies but he has to and he'll be better for it so he should've have to learn that twice
It's funny you mention channel chasers, after secret wish I'm almost certain, that's why Timmy is horrified to see an older version of himself since he mad this wish already.
You know if the problem.was he didnt want to lose cosmo and wanda as family he could have talked to them and potentially turned them into his human family or alternatively wished to become a fairy himself timmy was willing to make a timeloop, so its jot that far fetched hed straight up abbadandon his humanity
That's a good point. If so they either... 1) were erased from both mind and history, which is terrible Or 2) never thought of it due to there lives not as miserable when Timmy has an ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE life. The implications are always disturbing to think on...
I don't get how time stops considering he wished it was Christmas every day in one episode. There, time was stopped. So how could it have been stopped again?
