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Edward Frye
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In this video I go over the engine data from my incident flight, talk about how adjusting the mixture affected the engine (it really didn't).
Talk about what the engine shop found with the engine.
Talk about what's next.
00:00 - Introduction
01:00 - Lets Talk about Engine Data
02:10 - Oil Pressure and Oil Cooler Flush
02:54 - Temperatures before the runup
03:50 - Start to apply full power
04:45 - Power Reduction from 35.9 to 30.7 Inches
05:25 - Start to adjust the knobs - Little Effect on Temperature
07:00 - Cylinder Head Temperatures
08:43 - Engine Analysis
11:32 - So What's Next?

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@JustaPilot1
@JustaPilot1 2 года назад
The walk away from the camera is brilliant. Well played sir, well played.
@Kamel419
@Kamel419 2 года назад
such an amazing subtle nod to our favorite pilot with two first names trevor jacob
@jeremypnet
@jeremypnet 2 года назад
@jimmy Burnett fire extinguishers. Trevor Jacob bailed out of his plane with a fire extinguisher strapped to each leg under his trousers so that if his crashed plane caught fire he had a chance of putting it out.
@sirzebra
@sirzebra 2 года назад
@@jeremypnet "so that the plane he intended to crash most likely caught on fire, he had a chance of putting it out" -there, fixed it for ya.
@jeremypnet
@jeremypnet 2 года назад
@@sirzebra I didn’t think I needed to say he deliberately crashed the plane. I thought that was pretty much accepted by everybody now.
@sirzebra
@sirzebra 2 года назад
@@jeremypnet The guy you're responding to clearly didnt know about it i think, i know you know ! it was meant for anyone wondering.
@joelv4495
@joelv4495 2 года назад
The parachute and fire extinguishers strapped to your legs at the end!!! 🤣🤣🤣
@StevenCasper
@StevenCasper 2 года назад
The shop owner has some serious integrity standing behind his work making things right. 👏
@arcosiancosine1065
@arcosiancosine1065 2 года назад
I think it more has to do with paying for a new engine is cheaper than getting sued.
@bighaasfly
@bighaasfly 8 месяцев назад
Not cheap any way you slice it. That’s a big dollar game for sure.
@nwanchorcertification
@nwanchorcertification 8 месяцев назад
What do you think 40 k his cost ?
@tizwicky
@tizwicky 2 года назад
I'm very happy to hear that the engine shop is standing behind his work. That's really good to know that he's a honorable and ethical businessman. There are so few like him these days that he should be recognized and recommended to others. I know that if I lived in your area I wouldn't hesitate to bring my engine work to his shop.
@ulbuilder
@ulbuilder 2 года назад
Owning the mistake is key. Be it a business or an employee that works for you, if they own the mistake and learned from it give them a second chance. Very unlikely that same mistake will be made again.
@themanthemyththelegend1392
@themanthemyththelegend1392 2 года назад
No choice man, catastrophic failure on a new overhaul, if it goes to court all storage, legal, and repair fees are an absolute win plus damages. You would be stupid to take this to court as afterwards it would cost you 10 times what the repair would. It's not ethics they wanted to stay in the industry. And no in aviation one time is too many would never use their service, are you kidding me.
@ulbuilder
@ulbuilder 2 года назад
@@themanthemyththelegend1392 I disagree over the one time is too many comment. No single shop will ever be perfect 100% of the time because us humans are inherently imperfect. You have a choice: A) the shop that has made a mistake took care of it and improved their processes to reduce the chance of a reoccurrence. and B) the shop that has not made a catastrophic mistake yet.
@nopenotme6369
@nopenotme6369 Год назад
Ethics and integrity still matters in todays world.
@somaesch2769
@somaesch2769 Год назад
why not, when no casualties
@pomonabill220
@pomonabill220 2 года назад
I DIED LAUGHING when I saw the extinguishers on your legs!!!!! I know where THAT came from! (Trevor).. WOW that engine really tore itself up! That is wonderful that the shop is being so accommodating to you!
@Kenriko
@Kenriko 2 года назад
I'm glad the engine shop is standing behind their work (and mistake) Lol @ Trevor style fire extinguishers.
@adamdeibel772
@adamdeibel772 2 года назад
Love the fire extinguishers! I’m encouraged to hear that your engine shop is helping to correct the problem. I hope it fell under their insurance. I wish I was having the same experience with my fuel tank repair shop!😖 Good to hear that some shops have integrity.
@awesomecronk7183
@awesomecronk7183 7 месяцев назад
I didn't notice them at first but hot damn that's hilarious!!
@vwfanatic2390
@vwfanatic2390 2 года назад
I’m glad to hear the shop is doing the right thing, and making go for a misfortunate mistake or mishap, happier still it didn’t cost you your plane or your life. It’s also nice to hear they are changing policy to eliminate that from happening again. Rather than broadcasting their name maybe they can just have you be a reference for them, when they have clients looking for that. That sounds like a shop worth using. I’m also glad you don’t have to pull a Trevor, but at least you’re prepared, just in case.
@bradleydobie3891
@bradleydobie3891 2 года назад
I agree. I would absolutely trust that shop based on these events. Everybody makes mistakes, but how a company responds when they happen says a lot about them.
@Devorous81
@Devorous81 2 года назад
ahahah love the ending .... but you've forget the selfie stick. I'm happy to hear that the engine shop took responsability.
@gorway7
@gorway7 2 года назад
Brilliant ending gag... the parachute and fire extinguishers strapped to you legs was not lost on me.
@tombrotherman7838
@tombrotherman7838 2 года назад
I'm glad I didn't have anything in my mouth when you turned to walk to the plane!
@jimthode
@jimthode 2 года назад
That has to be the best ending I have seen on any video! Good detail on the whole issue.
@TairnKA
@TairnKA 2 года назад
I'm glad to hear the shop had stand by their work (and more), especially when there was a major failure. I hope the shop get's more business due to their integrity.
@chester8420
@chester8420 2 года назад
12:11 HAHAHAHAHA!!! I really didn't see that coming!!! Good one!
@Hooknspktr
@Hooknspktr 2 года назад
Glad everything turned out well and what a stand-up move for the engine shop to make everything right. Love the dig at the end....don't forget the selfie stick!
@Aero_Medic
@Aero_Medic 2 года назад
Dude how you kept a straight face walking through the gate with those fire extinguishers jangling! 🤣 Brilliant! So glad to hear you are getting your engine sorted and thanks for taking the time to explain and step through what happened. 👍 Well done
@aaronsastronomy9236
@aaronsastronomy9236 2 года назад
OMG the fire extinguishers and Parachute just made my day LOL
@WolfPilot
@WolfPilot 2 года назад
BAAAwaaaaahahahahahahaha!!! I love the trevor ending!!!!! It was great meeting you in Ft. Worth a few weeks ago. You have a captivating story about how all this went down. Keep those cameras running!
@TheEdwardFrye
@TheEdwardFrye 2 года назад
Thanks Wolf Pilot, it was great meeting you in Ft. Worth as well. Will do!
@MrSixstring2k
@MrSixstring2k 2 года назад
Glad the engine shop is standing by there work, doing the right thing.
@raysutton2310
@raysutton2310 Год назад
The fire extinguishers cracked me up, about as subtle as a brick through a shop window; totally love it!!!
@sholom8142
@sholom8142 2 года назад
Great update! I am glad the shop is taking care of you and the lawyers are not feasting on this. That ending was brilliant. I was laughing out loud. Good flying.
@ooglek
@ooglek 2 года назад
Oh man you got me at the end!!! I don't normally lol, but I lol'd!
@ComplainBear
@ComplainBear 2 года назад
That joke at the end just made my day! XD
@charlesjohnsonsr4199
@charlesjohnsonsr4199 2 года назад
I’ve been waiting to hear the results. You may remember that I said the problem that produced the metal in the oil had to be in the bottom end. I’m very happy to hear that the shop took responsibility and stood by their work. Looking forward to seeing how the test flight goes.
@vr6chrisvw
@vr6chrisvw 2 года назад
Glad to hear it all worked out. That ending was absolutely awesome!!!!!!
@grumpy3543
@grumpy3543 6 месяцев назад
I’m really glad that your engine shop is honest and took care of you. That could have gone bad in so many ways. If that had let loose over downtown Los Angeles it would’ve probably been fatal. And a huge shout out to that shop for being honest.
@TomPauls007
@TomPauls007 2 года назад
Most excellent! I retract my earlier suggestion to call Linsburg, Hershold&White. All appears well and calm. AND you lived through it!!!
@MrDIAMONDCOR
@MrDIAMONDCOR Год назад
Good job to the mechanic for taking the responsibility 👏👏👏👏
@210DRVR
@210DRVR 8 месяцев назад
I had a '76 T210 with a TSIO-520 R explode about seven years ago. This is the same engine in your 210. The engine was mid time with no unusual issues. Mine resulted in an off airport landing with no injury. The insurance adjuster noted that he has seen several 210's with this engine have catastrophic failures. Yours isn't the first to suffer a failure. You handled the situation very well and walked away. I'd fly with you anytime. Jim
@richardgreen6857
@richardgreen6857 2 года назад
...fire extinguishers and chute were a fun touch! Glad the engine shop was respectable enough to support you.
@AndrewTa530
@AndrewTa530 2 года назад
Shop owner standing behind his work is solid.
@jehlybean636
@jehlybean636 2 года назад
That shop owner stepped up - incredible. Give him some love!
@austinformedude
@austinformedude 2 года назад
Dude you got that done FAST! Been getting mine overhauled for 5 months!
@grayrabbit2211
@grayrabbit2211 2 года назад
We've been waiting for a Lycoming O-540 engine since September. They say we'll see it in March, but I suspect it'll be April or later.
@austinformedude
@austinformedude 2 года назад
@@grayrabbit2211 HUGE delays in parts right now :( Lycoming told me over a YEAR wait for the cylinders I needed. Luckily Millennium was about to provide some within 3 months.
@grayrabbit2211
@grayrabbit2211 2 года назад
@@austinformedude We're currently waiting on parts from Cessna as well and it's been at least a 5 month wait there. If you think that's bad, I was asking Lenovo (computers) about new servers. Some of the configurations would be delayed by more than 60 weeks. By that time they'd be well outdated! Our Lenovo rep smartly suggested we buy on the used market to hold us over until (if?) things get back to normal.
@austinformedude
@austinformedude 2 года назад
@@grayrabbit2211 guess It was a bad idea to sell everything to China huh?
@grayrabbit2211
@grayrabbit2211 2 года назад
@@austinformedude Oh, I've known that for some time. On the IT side of things, I've always been given crap for keeping old "junk" around. I keep enough spare parts on-hand and redundancy to rebuild everything once over. It was immensely helpful over the past two years. It's great peace of mind being able to pillage my own parts stash rather than worrying about locksdowns, supply chain and shipping breakdowns, etc.
@fsj197811
@fsj197811 7 месяцев назад
I'm SERIOUSLY impressed with the owner of that shop.
@teambands5901
@teambands5901 2 года назад
A very nice concise explanation about what happened to your engine and all the data collected. The end of the video got your mother scared again and now you have to deal with her again. Also that parachute is way too small for someone your size, I know since I have much experience jumping out of perfectly good aircraft and helicopters, get a bigger chute or your landing is going to be much harder than an airplane crash! Been there, done that, got the bad knees to show for it (no T Shirt though).
@fivebaldwins
@fivebaldwins 2 года назад
I see you have the full Trevor safety package, lol.
@kepamurray1845
@kepamurray1845 2 года назад
I've seen a few of those counterweights come off over the years. There is an array of different configurations depending engine part number. Even the pins have different part numbers depending on position. It would be very easy to mess up installing the circlip retaining the plates and consequently the pins. We include a duplicate inspection on those circlips during assembly to avoid the issue you have experienced. Good to hear that the shop stepped up and did what they needed to do. Love the extinguisher pants!
@chuckinwyoming8526
@chuckinwyoming8526 2 года назад
I am totally fed up with Trevor comment videos.....Your ending is PERFECT!!!! The question is did it blow up and you jumped out.....you did such a good job landing it last time....who posted this video??? Whoever posted this, THANKS you made my day!
@stripher273
@stripher273 2 года назад
that cracked me up when those 2 fire extinguishers showed up on camera. kidding aside, that was an excellent airmanship!
@ruthc8407
@ruthc8407 2 года назад
You've got an honest engine shop. Priceless.
@MayhemCanuck
@MayhemCanuck 2 года назад
Oh man the end... HA! 0 Time everything that's great. So glad you got it all straightened out.
@torukmakto7712
@torukmakto7712 2 года назад
Plot twist at the end! Very funny! You`re the ONE!
@quinnjim
@quinnjim 2 года назад
Great news that he's standing behind the engine. I'd be a little nervous since his original work was so bad, but hopefully he was more careful this time.
@darkangeldafu
@darkangeldafu 2 года назад
Dude your Mechanic is top notch 👌 👏 👍🏻 that is almost unheard of these days.
@jeffjenkins8303
@jeffjenkins8303 2 года назад
I am so happy for you that the engine shop did the honorable thing and remedied their mistake with regards to your engine. I sincerely hope that your test flight was uneventful and that you have regained full confidence once again in your aircraft. I enjoyed your video and look forward to your next one.
@chadpm11
@chadpm11 2 года назад
Not many shops would do anything close to this. You sir have a great engine shop keep them in business and help send work to them. Any shop that would do the right thing like this is a keeper 👌
@douglasfrye6462
@douglasfrye6462 2 года назад
I'm glad the engine shop did the right thing ,and replaced everything. I am looking forward to your test flight . And I want to see how your new interior looks when that is done!
@jluebow2
@jluebow2 11 месяцев назад
Great Analysis! Good thing your shop stood up for its mishaps and fixed it. I was cheated and lied to by an FBO whose chief mechanic agreed to perform an engine exchange project on my Piper Archer II. The mechanic delegated his job, without my knowledge or consent. to two new hires who completely screwed up the job that would have been pretty routine: 1. take of the STC-ed McCauley Black Mac Prop 2. Sent it in for a factory-prescribed Overhaul ( was overdue, supposed to happen every 72 mths or 2,000hrs-whichever came first); i3. remove old engine and send back to PennYan; 4 re-install a beautiful, zero-timed, balanced PennYan Aero Lycoming O-360A4M engine and put the fully-overhauled (fixed pitch) MCCauley prop on. Mechanics failed to do proper pre-oiling, remounted the out-run McCauley prop; falsified logbooks : After releasing plane for flight on 1/13/2021 there was NO ENTRY in the propeller logs. I was being charged for 90.1. hours of work performed but had an agreement for a 30-hour labor limitation, worse, the propeller was damaged while in the Custody of the FBO .This was discovered after the plane had to abort its first flight: heavy shakiing of plane; abnormal starter noises, unable to hold idle and NO OIL Pressure....The plane was declared numerous times unairworthy after the aborted flight and the FBO owner and his non-AI-certified mechanic, sent separate letters to me, declaring their own work unairworthy. After removing the unairworthy plane from that FBO, I was stuck with a plane where the next shop had to rely on incomplete/false maintenance records. The FBO Owner first attempted to retrieve $ 8,415- in addition to an already-paid $ 4,800 dollars for incorrect/incomplete and shoddy work. The case, naturally, ended up in the Circuit Court after the plane experienced multiple performance problems, including climbing Copper values on OAs. Finally, a complete tear down had to be performed....still not resolved today
@kayze009
@kayze009 6 месяцев назад
It's awesome that the shop stood by their work and is gonna replace the engine, I'd say 99% of every other shop would say, "not my problem."
@pdutube
@pdutube 2 года назад
That ending was savage LOL.
@Ms_Princess_Zelda
@Ms_Princess_Zelda 2 года назад
So glad to know what happened, glad its back in one piece again! Great end of the video though 😂😂😂🤌
@133dave133
@133dave133 2 года назад
It's going to take the NTSB five years to get this joke.
@TheEdwardFrye
@TheEdwardFrye 2 года назад
That gave me a chuckle
@davidlegas8066
@davidlegas8066 7 месяцев назад
Maybe the subject of your comment will share his video with his cellmate.😅
@pabobfin
@pabobfin 2 года назад
I love the fire extinguishers and parachute. Very subtle
@irishcurse65
@irishcurse65 2 года назад
The shop owner standing behind his engine is refreshing in this day and age. Quality owner. The walk away at the end was nice.
@jetdriver
@jetdriver 2 года назад
So glad I read the comments because I missed the Trevor backhand on the first go around. Well played indeed!! I too think the engine shop deserves a shout out. I’m sure we can all think of businesses who faced with eating a bill of this size would have blamed the failure on a part they didn’t touch and said it wasn’t their fault. But this shop did the opposite. They have stepped up on done the right thing. Every shop can make a mistake. What separates the great ones is what happens after that mistake becomes apparent. This shop did the right thing and would certainly have my trust in the future.
@seadub2
@seadub2 Год назад
Great series of videos! You're steady, calm stead-fast response to this is admirable.
@brycenelson315
@brycenelson315 2 года назад
That ending was hilarious! Don't forget your selfie stick!
@archjen
@archjen 2 года назад
Ed… your a gem! Your posts are valuable to your flying family. Thank you!
@thepurpleufo
@thepurpleufo 2 года назад
It's great to hear that your engine guy has taken care of all those problems...I hope everything works great now.
@dubmac6979
@dubmac6979 2 года назад
So glad you have the mandatory fire extinguishers and jump chute. Always fly with a parachute. Every pilot does.
@jamesjohnson-tk3gx
@jamesjohnson-tk3gx 2 года назад
Man I'm so happy this is gonna work out for you in the end. Love the T.J walk away that was awesome.
@mccartanaaron
@mccartanaaron 2 года назад
Just stumbled onto your channel this morning. Absolutely love the way this played out. HOWEVER - major bonus points for the closing scene with 'chute and fire bottles at the ready :-)
@Centurion54X
@Centurion54X 2 года назад
love the videos on this emergency. hope i never have to experience it myself but i feel better watching you handle it so smoothly, hopefully some of that has rubbed off on the viewer
@thefrackman1
@thefrackman1 2 года назад
The ending was a classic, great job mate.
@sethregan8734
@sethregan8734 Год назад
Love the fire extinguishers, lol 😂
@beovp91
@beovp91 2 года назад
That Engine shop. Wow, i will have to listen again to this video for the name of the shop. I really like how they stood behind the work. I also REALLY like how they looked at the procedures in hopes of correcting processes.
@johanmalan6810
@johanmalan6810 2 года назад
Great news, so happy the guys fixed up the engine and everything else as mentioned. great value after a huge scare! hope the test flights go well and the engine gives you all the hours to the next TBO without any...any issues. I think you earned it! Therefore I bless you and your engine! Go forth and fly and be SAFE!!!
@GaryColemanNC
@GaryColemanNC 2 года назад
I love your site, man... New subscriber. Been waiting on this post. Best of luck from North Carolina 👍.
@cannonroberts5129
@cannonroberts5129 2 года назад
I’m glad to hear that your engine guy is standing behind his work and making everything right! PS: I love what you have taped to you calves!!
@markdavis2475
@markdavis2475 2 года назад
Brilliant ending, a genuine "crying with laughter" moment!
@thedevilcomes2011
@thedevilcomes2011 2 года назад
Dude, Glad your safe, and it's really refreshing to hear that shop owned their mistakes and made right, hope the engine gives you 100s of hours of safe, smooth operation since being completely rebuilt!
@davejt1967
@davejt1967 2 года назад
Laughed out loud at the "Jacob style fire extinguisher fitment".
@baklys
@baklys 2 года назад
Great update, and I am really happy the shop do all this for you, they are really professional! :) Nice to look at the logfile, interesting to see how a airplane engine are operating, and how you manually adjust the manifold pressure and prop/ rpm`s. That walk away at the end makes a super nice ending to the video, just great!!! Good luck, regards from Norway! :)
@Leomurguia
@Leomurguia 2 года назад
lol, love the end. I've already seen a counterweight detach because the circlips, on a Pawnee Brave with a 300 hp Lycoming IO-540. At the time we were lucky that it happened during the routine run-op before takeoff, that hapened about 10hs TMOH. The engine was also destroyed. Enjoy the new engine. Thanks
@skyhawk2958
@skyhawk2958 2 года назад
Thank you Ed. I just read TCM 93-4. I havent flown in 25 years but still have my heart in it.
@ruthmoreton6975
@ruthmoreton6975 2 года назад
I am sure everything is in place this time. I hope your flight went well and I look forward to seeing the video (if you post one ).
@xpump876
@xpump876 Год назад
WOW - great emergency reaction flying skills and....just freakin great luck having enough seconds on the clock and height to glide back! ...it was heartwarming to hear the shop stood by their repair and set you right -- stay safe!
@jcflyer
@jcflyer 2 года назад
I am a retired Airline Pilot, Flight Instructor, Check Airman, and FAA designee. IMHO Your decision to return to the airport, even though you were well aware of the common instructor pilot admonition against that was obviously the correct decision. I was really pleased to see you point out the empty field in front of you and your explanation of why you did not choose it. That instantaneous decision your good situational awareness and feel for the airplane at that time, I believed saved your life.I loved your reporting and documentation of the event. I wish all pilots were as well prepared for an engine failure as you were. Congratulations or a Great Job well done.
@kentuckyblugrass
@kentuckyblugrass 2 года назад
The closing few seconds are an absolute gem.🙏🏻
@jimmykol
@jimmykol 2 года назад
Props to the shop for coming through, Ending was brilliant. Nervous cant really explain how your feeling taking off in that plane for the first time after having it overhauled.
@sampopfly6284
@sampopfly6284 Год назад
Kudos to your engine shop for making it right. That's the kind of shop I would want to do business with !!
@bob2161
@bob2161 2 года назад
Hahaha! The last scene is genius! You turn and walk away. I'm thinking, That almost looks like a parachute. You take a few more steps and I see the extinguishers and I burst out laughing. The wife comes in from the next room wanting to know what's up with me. All I can do is point to the screen as I continue laughing. She looks long enough to see the plane in the background, and shakes her head as she goes back to the next room.
@michaelturocy3319
@michaelturocy3319 2 года назад
What a hilarious ending!!!! BTW, congrats on your calmness with the incident/landing.... well done my friend!
@goneflying140
@goneflying140 2 года назад
You have a great mechanic. Standing behind his work was amazing!!
@takewing19
@takewing19 2 года назад
I didn't see that coming. Well done!
@robkeogh4593
@robkeogh4593 2 года назад
Wow Mate. Great to see the engine shop standing by their work and their customers. Great result all round actually.
@md4droid
@md4droid 2 года назад
So great that they took care of everything. Glad it's done and flyable again. Don't jump! lol Great video, Edward.
@scatcam
@scatcam 2 года назад
The best you can do is have a good attitude about a bad situation. You made the best of it and I’m very happy for you. Very knowledgeable and a good sense of humor. Subscribed for sure.
@ChristopherBurtraw
@ChristopherBurtraw 5 месяцев назад
I asked the question in the incident video, you have more than answered it here, great view of the data log. Thank you!!
@helgelarsen4850
@helgelarsen4850 2 года назад
Real kudos to the shop to take responsability for this.
@Barabyk
@Barabyk 2 года назад
Thanks for thorough analysis of the whole event! So glad that there was no fire in the engine bay with fuel line ripped and hot oil splashing all over place.
@davidlegas8066
@davidlegas8066 7 месяцев назад
Edward, That was was an outstanding post engine failure analysis. Also sounds like the response from the engine shop was great. Wishing you many trouble free fun filled hours of flying in the future.
@antonrudenham3259
@antonrudenham3259 2 года назад
That walk away from the camera was epic!😅😅
@StaticVapour590
@StaticVapour590 2 года назад
Happy to see this thing getting resolved
@alantorrance6153
@alantorrance6153 2 года назад
Good luck for the first flight on "new" engine. This is the type of flight where most problems tend to occur -- as you obviously know. I look forward to seeing your next vid on your safe return.
@goodxrvn2053
@goodxrvn2053 2 года назад
You have a great sense of humor about this...Happy Flying!!
@flyflagaus573
@flyflagaus573 Год назад
Glad you’re around to tell the tale
@MrYungilike
@MrYungilike 2 года назад
good luck, man, hopefully this almost-brand-new stuff will work like a totally new one to repay what you experienced and lost.
@j.m.1389
@j.m.1389 2 года назад
I love the ending! Nice touch!
@purdueschmidt
@purdueschmidt 2 года назад
Haha, I split out my hot chocolate on the last shot with the extinguishers 😂
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