So... What's Going On With AI? 

Remember: It's not artists against STEM, it's artists against Business Majors

The corporate/tech world’s AI fixation really goes to show they’d rather let a computer do a job badly but for free rather than pay a human to do a job well

I hate the way people use AI for art and novels. If you dont care enough to draw or write it then why should I care about it??

One of the most horrifying use of AI I've come across are "mushroom foraging AI guide apps" where you take a photo of a mushroom, feed it into the app and the app tells you what mushroom it is and if it's safe to eat. It's basically a spruced up version of a Google Lens search. Also, it will misidentify Amanita mushrooms for White Button mushrooms. Both are technically edible, only the former has a fun side effect of killing you. And by the time you notice the symptoms, you are going to die. Painfully.

Ethical concerns aside, I'm sick of hearing about AI. It's like NFTs but worse. AI is being shoved into every little thing and it's annoying as fuck. My job is pushing it when it makes no sense for the product we sell. Every marketing email that hits my work inbox is about AI. I switched away from Google's search engine because they just had to push their shit AI. I'm ready for every company under the sun to kindly stfu about it.

The frustrating thing about AI with art is that, artists wouldnt mind AI as a TOOL. The team who made Spiderman ATS made a library of outlines for an AI to replicate on the model and it gets polished up by an artist along the way. It makes the process faster and gets rid of repetitive tasks for the artist to do. But AI "art" is never about using AI as a tool, its a product in these techbros eyes. They do not care about art, just the aesthetic and money

Ai bros don't seem to understand that 90% of uses for art that isn't shitposting requires a clear and consistent vision. Characters need to be in the right spot, they can't change clothes between panels or shots, they need to look in the right direction and display the right emotion. AI image generation just isn't even close to being able to do any of this consistently, and they think it's going to replace animators and comic book artists any day now.

In the case of the ChatGPT lawyer, what got him in trouble was not actually having ChatGPT write a brief for him that he basically turned in without proofreading but doubling down when the other side's lawyers and the court asked if the case citations ChatGPT hallucinated were real. Submitting a filing completely written around cases that never existed wasn't a good idea, but refusing to admit fault and insisting the court take the briefing seriously is where it crossed the line. The judge gave him the fair opportunity to correct his mistake like a mature adult and he instead wasted the judicial system's valuable time.

One telling use case I heard about was dermatologists trying to use ai to differentiate between non cancerous skin and tumors. The ai began to classify any photo that had a ruler in it as "cancer", because that's how doctors photograph possible tumors and ai fundamentally does not **understand** what it is being asked

two kappa videos in less than a month????? you’re spoiling us

I'm interested in the story of the one AI chatbot that invented a customer refund policy for an airline, and how the company started fighting that in court desperately. Not understanding fundamental things - or rather, lacking the ability to perform logical reasoning - has the potential to cause immense damage to corporate interests. Remember that time that a major pharma company was impersonated on Twitter because of the dumb bluecheck changes? Now imagine how easy it would be for an AI that the company has put in charge of the pricing system to be fed a bit of bad data and immediately drop the price of everything to $0.01. For this reason, I'm expecting the surge against AI to happen the moment one of the big companies loses several million dollars because of something a techbro told them would let them fire an entire department to spend the wage expenses on another yacht.

I love when the search engine tells me "here let us write a summary of the wikipedia article with AI so you don't have to check wikipedia yourself. btw we are fully aware that this will be wrong sometimes so you effectively still have to check wikipedia to fact check. but if you want a machine that makes up sentences to guesstimate the answer instead of getting the actual answer for some reason, here you go. the future is now" this is a duckduckgo subtweet

Quick reminder to artists that Nightshade and Glazed are two programmes developed by the university of Chicago which stop it from scraping your art. Glazed prevents the scrape, but apparently Nightshade poisons the AI which tries. I'm no expert, but go check them out if you're worried about your public portfolio.

As an artist, thank you for standing against Computer-Rendered Artificial Pictures (CRAP)

20:50 you forgot the use-case of "defaming famous people by making them say and/or do things that are super illegal, just generally kinda fucked up, or really annoying", but that can definitely be filed under "company I do not intend to keep"

Also worth noting a Harvard investigation found a lot, if not all, image generators were trained on child sexual abuse images. Like when you scrape images from across the Internet you're going to get shit like that mixed in but the fact that no action has been taken to correct it is sickening. Also a lot of those generators are being used to create incredibly realistic sexual images of children. Like I don't think I have to explain why that's gross as fuck right?

I'm convinced one of my students used AI to research the mites we found at a field site. The information was flat out incorrect, like jarringly so. Someone fed this student completely incorrect information and I know AI has a bad issue with invert morphological features used in taxonomy.

I've seen those Google AI responses make up answers that Kindergartener would

I think my problem (other than the stealing from artists) is that they are using AI to try and replace jobs... people actually want to do? Why are we not using AI to get rid of the lame boring jobs that no one actually wants to do?

part of whats so awful too is that ai image generation is often used to generate "art" from smaller creators that could have easily been achieved via a commission, but the people in question who use that sort of thing tend to not respect artists and dont like their prices. which is especially foul, considering a lot of artists who have commissions open genuinely want to make art their livelihood. in addition, voice generation has also been used explicitly to steal voicework from voice actors who have explicitly stated they do not want their voices used in this way. yuri lowenthal comes to mind. i believe there was also a case made by scarlett johansson against a company that trained their text-to-speech off her voice after she denied them permission, and proceeded to call her voice "not her property" after she contacted them about it. yikes. this stuff never gets used in good faith, it seems.

Generative AI can be tacked onto the long list of things "tech bros" have murdered in cold blood. But its so much worse this time, because instead of having someone tell me NFTs are the future every other day, now every site you go on has a corner of it where you will be up to your ears in bots and generated images. It is a plague lol

Also time to be real and replace usage of „hallucinate“ with „being wrong“ The machines arent hallucinating, theyre simply wrong and bad.

the AI dream : AI does stuff we dont want to do for us so we can focus on more fulfilling endeavors, like art for example the AI reality : a huge chunk of AI development is based around completing complex and valuably high level tasks, like art for example, forcing people out of work and only making it easier for large corporations to make money, and making us to the the work we dont want to do (sometimes for the AI)

Hey remember when Pink Floyd hosted an art competition to make a music video and some AI slop won? I don’t hate AI image generation. Well, I do, but that’s not why I’m upset. I’m upset because I’m watching literally everything and everyone that isn’t _an artist themselves_ accept and endorse it. Some even lie about it. I understand traditional art won’t ever go anywhere, we’ve been doing it since we were in caves. But our entire media landscape becoming that and it being gleefully endorsed by the people with power over it? That upsets me.

The single-minded decades-long persistence of tech and corporate greed in commercialising but simultaneously devaluing creative skills exclusively in ways that eliminate space for the actual people component of that creativity would be impressively comical if it wasn’t so deeply and fundamentally Evil.

One of the wildest things about AI imaging is that the images it’s trained on are so overwhelmingly white that it’ll occasionally change the race of characters to seem more diverse. And since AI sucks it doesn’t really know how to do it properly, so sometimes it’ll only change the face while leaving the hands white. So it’ll just spit out Homer Simpson in blackface and call it a day

I really wish they'd focus AI on important things like identifying cancer cells, as opposed to making sloppy art.

I’m an illustrator and it’s hard to show work I’ve made for free on Twitter with the risk of it being scrapped and stolen, it’s really disappointing how comfortable people are with it

A while ago somebody told me the job I was studying to do (accounting) was going to be replaced by AI It hurt a little inside because I have been studying that for 6 years at that point And then i realized that If you ask any ai for foods ending with -um you end up with bananum or museum

One reason why AI is generally a failure in assisting with google searching, generating "art" (and just doing any kind of menial labor in general) , is because it can't think of a solution to an any given problem that leads to an improvement, or a solution that doesn't involve breaking some rule. AI can't discern that stealing is bad, that someone might object to the solutions that are either fradulent or non-existent, or even that their solution might hurt people. It takes orders from their master, whoever that might be, and applies the solution in the most literal manner imaginable, unless limitations are set beforehand (and even that can go so far). It's like telling a kid who never went outside in his life and doesn't know anything about how the world works to go to the store and get a loaf of bread. The kid ends up stealing it, because while to anyone else, "getting it" means "buying it", but that kid doesn't know the distinction, and the next thing you know, there are cops at yoursl door. While the kid can be taught the concept of theft and laws and context of both, an AI can't do that, because they have no idea that fundamentally, breaking a law to complete a task is a worse outcome than doing it legally. They have no concept of legality or improvement. And teaching an AI to work around the legal frame, in context of betterment, in a way that doesn't take forever to do or breaking down is so complicated and time consuming that it's just better to hire human labor, because people understand context in a way AI never could or never will. But hiring people costs money, so obviously companies are going full throttle with AI. Quality Assurance? what is that?

100% agreed right the way through; I'm a software engineer, and I feel like I'm going fucking crazy with all these AI nerds around me. It's at the point now where all I have to say to anyone is "IF IT CAN'T KNOW IT'S RIGHT, YOU'VE GOT TO DO IT ALL AGAIN ANYWAY."

There's also, regrettably, a huge usecase developing in the ad world - no need to pay shutterstock (and thus a photographer, photo editor, model, equipment, and all else included in the price of that stock image) if you can just use midjourney to render a very realistic photo of a very specific image motif in less than 10minutes. It's goddamn bleak over here, ngl

AI is the new NFT. Even if the core technology is solid, it's being run into the ground like a fad.

There is this guy who was a graphic designer for some company and they just took all the stuff he made for them and fed it into an ai, and then fired the guy. That sounds so incredibly illegal but probably isn't because AI isn't accounted for in law yet so screw that guy I guess. (Then again AI isnt perfect and that decision of firing the guy is arguably very stupid because the style will advance and improve nowhere but its still incredibly shady) Video link: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-U2vq9LUbDGs.html

As I have always said with AI image generation: The people most capable of bringing out the most of the program are the people who want to stay as far away from the program as possible... prompts are only as good as those who write them lol

as an author, thank you for not encouraging this generated shit also 1) if you're using chatgpt to write, it's going to be shit. it's not a good author, and it doesnt know what to do 2) if you're not, please take a careful look at what youre reading- chatgpt has a very.... """unique""" writing style, and we need to catch people out with it 3) if you write with it but dont claim it as your own, more power to you

"Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them." For how popular the Dune movies are, it seems some of the main themes Frank Herbert included in the book have been lost.

Ai? More like artificial unintelligent

Ah you thought you wouldn’t get my American view by posting at an unamerican time? You thought wrong!

Technology must always be evaluated by how easy it is to commit fraud with it (in addition to other things (none of which are ever considered))

The problem with AI is not that it can cause harm, its that it was created in a time where evil isn't punished but lauded. its going to suffer the fate of TNT.

there's a type of "ethical AI" that has existed in Photoshop for years now, mostly through the patch/Band-Aid tool and the content aware fill tool. Both of them just use the art that you already made to fill in little spots that you need, but that doesn't have the power to steal entire works from artists so no one talks about it because all the AI "artists" want to do is steal from artists😂😭

Ah yes, the classic dream of machines taking on our labour so we can pursue higher items on Maslow's pyramid of needs, yet here we are, doing meanial tasks for minimum wage while computers make art.

It's also horrific for the environment! I feel like everyone glosses over that. A single chatgpt prompt is equivalent to buying a 16 ounce bottle of water, pouring it out in the dirt and then chucking the bottle in a bush

There does exist exactly ONE morally positive use case for the voice-alike machines, and it's those videos where the past 5 US presidents are playing video games together.

the analogy that ai is like lead is an incredible way to put it and makes it a lot more digestible

AI has its uses, specifically in accessibility. Be My Eyes and Seeing AI are FREE apps, that help blind and low vision people get a glimpse of their surroundings. AI for profit is gross, I don’t think that should change.

I got a M.S. recently, my research was on machine learning. Pretty much all research in this area including my own, has a conlcusion that goes "Yeah we've tackled an issue that hasn't been approached this way before, and we've improved upon the previous results of non-ML models, but for the love of god we are still so far away from actually having a high enough success rate please improve it further before using it good god." ML is a subset of AI, so saying what we're looking at these days is AI is technically correct, but I feel like the general public hears "AI" and thinks of a sentient sci-fi robot instead of what is essentially a big equation.

no way librarian jesus watches basketball now

I heard doctors on TikTok talking about asking chatgpt for diagnosis info and so on, it's terrifying

10:42 I think the most telling thing about this specific example is that free online grammar and spell checkers have been a thing for years now

"AI" = Appeasing Investors

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The ultimate irony for me is that, literally the first couple of days after the first AI photo-generators were released, I would actually say that, overall, most artists I saw were actually pretty onboard with them because they looked at these generators and thought that this could help streamline their process. Artists were talking about how these could be used to generate references so they didn't need to spend potentially hours looking for the right picture to work from or a LOT of artists were saying that they could finally add backgrounds to their works without having to struggle with them. SO MANY artists were legitimately interested in using these and were even considering paying subscriptions for these services RIGHT up until it became clear that the point was to do their job for them and then the support crumbled almost immediately. A happy medium was possible for a few moments, but the AI/crytobros just HAD to completely and utterly overlook it.

Current “AI” is just terrible autocorrect. And often times, autocorrect can’t even work right! What’s scary is the thought that its stupidity will take over, not its intelligence like in movies :/

As an artist, I don't understand AI bros telling me shit about "we need to make sacrifices to push progress" All I see is people defending the right to put creative expression on the conveyor belt, while someone else handles the expenses of that choice. Surprisingly many of fierce AI enthusiasts don't want AI to assist, they want a straight up replacement of human resources. They just want to consume tons of artistic content because they think they are entitled to it (like... hello? Maybe we’ll cover our basic needs first, and then we’ll profit from something that doesn’t necessarily need to be fully automated?) AI is a good tool, but people, as usual, use things they are given in the worst possible ways. Many of those who work with generating images just want to enter a word and get a ready-made result. This is terrible laziness and a lack of desire to create. As a result, they don't understand how to create and what it takes to convey a thought into any medium. (And yes, for some reason, of all the professions that need AI help, people have chosen to HEAVILY profit directly from artists. And I say it is to profit from them, not to help the creative professions. The use of AI in many ways is associated with malicious intentions tied heavily to pure laziness or greed. From companies especially. These intentions rn are not justifiable for me personally) Sry for ranting and bad eng

Holy shit, 2 uploads in a month? Christmas has come early in the form of an Australian librarian

Comparing AI to lead deposits was actually a really genius analogy!!

Being an artist and a computer science major/programmer is so funny. Techbros are stomping all over the compsci portion and showing that they don’t understand their own technology at every given chance, all the while screaming “this is the future” (for the record: generative AI is a hype bubble. It’s NOT long for this world and IS going to burst). Then your other interest (art) is ruined because techbros (see above) are showing how uncreative and lazy they are in every aspect. The complete and total disrespect for the arts is the point. They hate artists and want to make it our problem. There’s two wolves inside me and both want to scream 🫠

THANK YOU for calling it AI generated images and not art. I think making that distinction in our heads is the first step against it.

As a professional artist who has had others lecture them how "I need to adapt my workflows to new 'tools' like ai." the description of me needing to slowly cut-off every possible escape route in order to get something I sorta wanted is so accurate. If AI was a real human assistant I would not hire them ever because they can't understand the work we're doing, they keep giving me things that don't fit together cohesively and they just 'don't get it.'

I can't say this without at least slightly sounding like an annoying know-it-all but a big part of this is that it's being oversold and most don't understand what it actually does. I'm not saying I understand it 100% either but I do have some computer background and I've looked into enough to come to a decent understanding. It's not intelligence. Computer learning algorithms have been around for a while now but it took GPT, a very large model, for it to come to the mainstream. Now all of the out of touch companies are pandering to investors, neither of which understand enough of it to meaningly use it or prevent it causing more harm than good.

Two videos in less than a month, he's putting his whole kaijussy into these vids for us 🙏

The only time I ever engaged in using an AI model to create images was when me and my friends tried to con Bing's AI to make sexually explicit anthropomorphic animals. The con was a success. My war cry for this endeavor was "I know you were trained on deviant art!"

AI truly feels like the metaphorical hammer that makes all problems look like metaphorical nails. It doesn't matter if there's a simpler, or faster, or more ethical solution, you just have to punch it with that hammer long enough until it either works, or you've deformed it enough that it can look like it worked

on the 'ai art is bad' topic, I'd like to add to the table; I wanted a purple text of 'hehehe' for an emoji and it just refused, giving me anything else that's purple

"you cut off its escape routes until it goes the way you want it to" is such an incredible way to describe prompting. I have spent a lot of time using stable diffusion and learning how to prompt and it really is so often exactly like this. The only thing I'd add is that if you cut off too many of its escape routes, it will just crash into the barriers and explode. You practically have to allow it some amount of interpretive leeway otherwise it'll spit out something utterly unintelligible and sometimes even horrifying I'm also an artist, and I don't use AI stuff in my art cause I have no use for it that way, but I enjoy using it as a sort of toy - a puzzle even, sometimes.

Most AI will probably tell you Morbius was a successful film and believe "It's Morbin time" was actually in the movie....I'm ok with that.

Part of the problem with "AI" is that it's a marketing buzzword, not a technical term. Depending on the exact context, AI can mean "a thing our product was doing for years but we're going to call it AI so we can charge you more for it" to "an overly complicated, resource intensive system that doesn't do half the things its owners say it can do" to "actually an outsourcing company in a trenchcoat."

I know a furry artist that doesn’t think AI generating images is considered art theft T-T “what if I want art that looks like a mash up of 5 different artists styles” idfk learn to draw it instead of generating bs, “what if I want art but can’t afford it” “you don’t like AI? So fuck poor people then right?” An actual thing he said to me. Like what the fuck bro. Dude could just commission a smaller artist instead of generating shit trained on expensive artists. but he also doesn’t consider tracing as theft either so- he is the worst, unethical, least caring for the art, artist I know off.

I once had an AI art advocate argue that artists are trying to gatekeep their mediums by requiring human input and the prerequisite of building talent over many years. That's not true, but that take made me want to immediately start gatekeeping AI idiots out of the art industry forever. They're only in it for profit and they will destroy art in the name of pursuing that profit just like everything else they touch.

My art was used as training data without my permission like many artists. It's an uncomfortable feeling. Thank you for talking about this.

Yo, two Kappa uploads this fiscal quarter? He's gonna be rich! 🤑 (tis a jape, none of us will ever own a home)

There are so many AI images of "products" on social media websites, and gullible people saying "Where can I buy this?" Then the scammers post their malicious links.

One of the things that REALLY sucks that you didn’t mention was people who “commission” an artist, steal the sample sketch the artist made, and use AI to complete it, so they don’t have to pay the artist 🙃

GenAI is accelerating Dead Internet Theory by decades. Searching for any popular character gets you a landslide of excessive sets of prompt images over personally created art. Same with the infinite amount of product listings for clothing with random images on it. Its all become soulless slop and soon human interaction will be secondary to bot interaction.

I think it's really telling that for a while ai bros using midjourney prompts ALL had to include some form of "cinematic beautiful professional lighting" without like... clarifying what they meant at all by any of that. Because I'm sure they themselves did not fully get it

Remember folks, all capital stems from labor. You have power. Time to organize and use it.

"this ai generative model will be able to replace artists!" Says man unknowingly destroying his own job security

“AI” is not good enough to replace humans, it's not even close. The problem is with greedy corporations who are looking for an opportunity to reduce their staff and overwork them. I'm looking at you video game companies.

god, as an artist, it is just gut wrenching to see the shit people do with "ai" when they could spare like 50 dollars (cause artists need to lowball in order to find work) on a better, more comprehensive, more personalized graphic its just..... i dont like to think about how dystopian it all is LOL

It's funny because my dad has worked with stuff like this for years before AI became a big thing and he was mostly working with it in the context of digital art and then when it finally gets sorta good instead of getting a bunch of cool digital art we just get a load of scam, spambots and lies.

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Thanks for standing for so long Kappa we appreciate it

This upload made me double check that I hadn’t blacked out for 6 months

It's kinda funny now that I'm thinking about it. I'm sure there were some AI techbros who truly thought they were developing what would lead into a possible golden age of human revolution (more time for leisure, less time for work- leading into more developments in other fields that would no longer be "starved" for people). Which then, probably got uprooted and tossed out when THE MONEY started being printed.(speculation of course)

rediscovering you is very nice, I'll be rewatching this and your cybertruck video around 16 more times now

i was going to comment anyway but the post about the gbf artstyle took me out. as someone who (unfortunately) plays gbf, not only are those just cheap knock offs of several characters, but that's not even the correct art style. these guys really have no standards whatsoever in terms of artistic intent.

dont forget the golden rule: stealing from people - good stealing from companies - bad

Obviously all those artists being displaced just need to learn programing to help maintain the AI that took their jobs! That's definitely how it worked when automation has replaced other jobs in the past!

upload quieter it’s 2am

AI images has mad me ask with everything I see online "would a real person ever make something like this?"

You mentioned that AI can be used to fix grammar in a work rather than write the work itself, but it can't even do that correctly without hallucinating new information or making up words. Even something that seems on the outside like it doesn't require human touch, like grammar and editing, does still need an actual person behind it.

Been rewatching all of Kappa Kaiju's videos cause I missed him so much.

A.i. image generation was an interesting little thing when it first popped up. CHAT GPT showed me its limits within the first hour of messing with it. Its very telling that NFT/BLOCKCHAIN enthusiasts ummediatley pivoted to A.i. Thats all i need to know about it. Also the trend I've noticed : people most enamored with A.i. images arent themselves artists. For Practicing artists, A.i. images have very distinct "tells" and im not even talking about faces and hands. Im not saying A.i. image generation doesnt have a place. Once the dust settles, it may be useful for brainstorming, rapid prototyping, and ive seen some undeniably cool stuff that where A.i. was used. Once all the dust settles from the hype, and money men i think we will see how useful it really is.

As an artist, THANK YOU OMG-- Art in general (including creative writing and animation) is like a window into the artist's soul: their inspirations, motivations, experiences, and personality all become one into every single piece that is created. AI-generated slop is devoid of any of this. It breaks my heart to see that even artists who passed away have their art scraped for the "AI bros" to profit from.

Mom the librarian come back again

I like that you actually did your research into image generation.

The first time I saw google’s ai generated answers I audibly sighed and dropped my head to my desk. It’s a *search engine* not a chatbot.

Ai is dumb, and I hate it.