More or less. It always amuses me when people view the samurai as being noble warriors, very loyal and adhering to bushido. But that was mostly onky true among the lower ranks. Anyone in power was a backstabbing, scheming jerk, lol. And the brutality of samurai in combat cant be understated either
Like a mix of the Sengoku era, the crusades, and the dark/medieval ages. A time of never ending wars, plagues, egomaniacal lords and kingdoms and where innocents were caught in the middle.
@@thalmoragent9344 The Crusades were mostly fought because the Muslims and Catholics wanted to own Jerusalem. There was really nothing understandable about it. It was just 2 equally wrong religions wanting to flex on each other.
Oh yes! The Senate Drinking Game: where you take a shot every time they screw up Also Darth Rivan wasn't killed by his apprentice. It was the other way around. Rivan ended up using an artifact iin battle that not only drained him of his powers but also sent him to the future, specifically during one of the battles on Ruusan. Because he was powerless he was killed easily by a passing warrior
The Sith have always been there own worst enemies, especially due to the selfishness endemic to adherents of their dark side ideology, and this just proves that point.
Nah. The problem with the Sith is the same with the Jedi. Both need a strong Leader to get ANYTHING done. Without an all powerful supreme Dark Lord that is simply so powerful that none can ever hope to step up to him even combined like Darth Vitiate or King Adas or Darth Revan the Sith immediately get at each other’s throats cuz everyone wants to be the Top Dog which causes the Jedi to get stronger and beat them. Same goes for the Jedi. Without a strong and visionary Grandmaster like Luke Skywalker or N’kata Del Gromo or Satele Shan they simply stand still, do absolutely nothing and become Corrupt like it happened with Yoda, Master Baas and Vander Tokare which causes the rise of powerful Sith and they in term beat the Jedi. It’s an infinite Cycle that started ever since the Ancient Je’daii Order on Tython split into Sith and Jedi after the Force Wars
Yeah relying on the Rule of Two to keep the Sith from screwing up was a mistake, despite it surprisingly fulfilling it's purpose of making the Sith rule the Galaxy He should have just settled for being the only Sith left and kept using essence transfer, a ability he actually knew, to be immortal and play the long game like his successors did Palpatine is the living proof that the Jedi would be stupid enough to eventually let him be elected into office
@@ale-xsantos1078 The Jedi didn't really have any control over who got elected chancellor. Your argument supposes that they knew Palpatine was a Sith and did nothing about it, which is stupid really. Had they known he was a Sith when he ran, they wouldn't have stood for it. They stayed out of politics like that and expected the same respect from the senate.
No my argument doesnt suppose that and on the contrary it is stupid to assume otherwise My point is that Palpatine was THE Sith Lord and wheter the Jedi knew or not, they were perfectly okay with handing him control over the Galaxy and as such someone like Bane could have done pretty much the same had he simply switched bodies with someone unsuspecting enough and been as able to hide his presence like Sidious was
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Darth Bane’s adoption of the Rule of Two was not the product of necessity or wisdom. Rather, it was the product of his own fear and lack of leadership ability. The problem with the New Sith is that they weren’t truly Sith. They had no connection to the ancient Sith people or the culture those people had developed to hold a Dark Side society together. The real Sith had traditions and values which allowed them to create a civilization which endured for thousands of years, and even survived an attempt at genocide by the Republic. The Rakatans also build a Dark Side empire which lasted thousands of years, so you can’t blame the failures of the New Sith on the Dark Side itself. The New Sith were really just an order of Dark Jedi, and as such lacked the traditions which would have stabilized them. They fell into constant bickering because their nature was defined by their defiance of the orthodoxies of the Jedi, rather than a shared culture and value system. They were a fractious ideological movement founded by a solipsist and driven by rampaging egos. If anything, it’s amazing they lasted as long as they did. Bane was a product of that twisted lineage and simply justified his solipsism with a clear spiritual fallacy; that the Dark Side needed to be concentrated in a single master. This was obviously false given the history of the galaxy, with powerful Dark Side movements consisting of many practitioners being well documented. Instead just sought to remove his competition via trickery, which is proof he didn’t believe he could win a straight up competition. The Rule of Two is an admission of weakness, not a well thought out position.
If the New Sith had some generations to forge new centers of Sith imperial power and culture across the outer rim they would be able to form powers able to stand on their own. Bane just shattered the final generation of New Sith and used the remnants to form a shadow order hidden beneath the surface.
@@theliato3809 The lack of having generations to form new centers of Sith culture wasn't the problem. The problem is that the newer Sith like Bane tended to emphasize the more individualistic nature of being a darksider over being organized and cooperative like the more ancient Sith. That is why the RO2 philosophy was ultimately doomed to fail.
@@decepticonxhunter4850 Im aware. Hence my comments on centers of Culture and power being needed for the Sith to thrive. Ironically Im pretty sure that the Sith relied on enclaves of the old empires which were in all but name Sith even if Darth Bane would have thrown a hissy fit over that.
Bane: Alright that's it. Sith keep turning on each other way too much and it's crippling our empires. From now on there will only ever be two Sith. Me: You could just teach the Sith better self-control so they don't turn on each other all the time. Bane: Sith and self-control? Bwahahahahahaha! Oh, you were serious? Here let me laugh harder. Hahahahahahahahaha!
I wish Legends had explored the New Sith Wars more outside of source books. The two main things that covered it were the Knight Errant series/novel and the Bane era (Trilogy and the Jedi vs Sith comic). Both of which take place at the very end of the 1000 year period. 2 of the most interesting ideas we could've gotten (in my opinion) was the fall of Phannius, and the Technobeast part of the New Sith Wars (potentially based around the Technobeast Jedi because that just sounds awesome).
The New Sith Wars was a really interesting era. I don't want Disney to flesh it out. Just give me more High Republic with tiny references that canonize events in the New Sith Wars. Leave that good stuff alone in Legends.
I’d love for Gendy Tartakovski to do an animated series set during the old republic, the republic dark age, and the New Sith Wars someday like I’m hoping Dave Filoni will one day do an animated series set in the high republic and one set during the sequel trilogy era.
this raises the question of how the Sith managed to create their first empire. what changed between the buildup of their first empire and their long fall?
Have you ever seen a Movie, I think it's in Russian but has subtitles of course, a Movie called "White Tiger?" It's a fantastic Movie, an allegory about a huanted German Tiger 1 Tank that just can NOT be killed, until he encounters a Russian Tank driver who basically comes back from the dead, and is now possesed by the "God of the Tank", and he has this "Force" like connection with all Tanks, and it becomes a fight between him, the Tank he commands and the "posessed by the Devil German Tiger 1" A fantastic watch, if you like foreign Movies!!
It’s a recurring Cycle in both ever since they spilt into two separate Orders just like with the two great World Religions in Real Life Catholicism and Islam. The problem with the Sith is the same with the Jedi and is very simple explained. BOTH need a strong Leader to get literally ANYTHING done. Without an all powerful supreme Dark Lord that is simply so powerful that none can ever hope to step up to him even combined like Darth Vitiate or King Adas or Darth Revan the Sith immediately get at each other’s throats cuz everyone wants to be the Top Dog which causes the Jedi to get stronger and beat them. Same goes for the Jedi. Without a strong and visionary Grandmaster like Luke Skywalker or N’kata Del Gromo or Satele Shan they simply stand still, do absolutely nothing and become Corrupt like it happened with Yoda, Master Baas and Vander Tokare which causes the rise of powerful Sith and they in term beat the Jedi. It’s an infinite Cycle that started ever since the Ancient Je’daii Order on Tython split into Sith and Jedi after the Force Wars
I'd like to say I find this excerpt from Sith History fascinating but in all honesty, I find it hilarious. I love the idea of Star Wars providing counter cultures, such as Jedi vs Sith, as well as the incredible space combat plays that provide exciting battle stratagems but... the whole "Sith are EVIL just to be EVIL" scenarios are akin to a "vampires in space" soap opera. Thankfully, it never became the sole focus of the storylines we got. :)
Interesting Darzu seemed to be a spiritual successor and "improvement" over Rivan Where he would create a army of mindless soldiers to serve his sith officers loyally, not realising said officers would still kill him, her plague needed no fancy rituals and obeyed her alone, making her essencially the perfect Sith in the sense of leading a seemingly unstoppable army that could never get powerhungry and stab her in the back It was only her very convenient *cof cof* Deus Ex Machina *cof cof* assassination that allowed her army to be stopped, as without her there's no army, and as such the knowledge of her galaxy ending plague was lost She may have never trained under Rivan nor been a member of Bane's Sith lineage, but you could say she was his ideal apprencite and more than anyone else fulfilled the Rule of Two's purpose of surpassing her predecessor, even if the only connection between the two was methodologically
Basically the galaxy goes to hell in a hand basket, because of the rise of the new sith and beginning of a thousand years of perpetual rise and fall of new sith lords and threats, resulting in never ending warfare that ripped the galaxy asunder and brought the republic to its knees. If it weren't for the Jedi propping the last remnants of them up on their feet and stepping in to take over the reins at just the right moment to prevent a total collapse into galactic anarchy.
Imagine a sith who goes by "underlord" on hiss own choice. What a representation of for their philosophy. Why not "2nd best is good enough" or "no stomache to go all in"? There is lots of ridiculousness in ancient sw lore that still is kinda cool but sum ideas are just plane stupid.
Almost 2000 years at that point. You can look up pictures of Ziost. All life was wiped out but it wasn’t at a point where life couldn’t come back. There was still oxygen
Some of this shit makes it sound like there were millions of various Sith and Jedi across more divided factions than there are lives in the multiple different galaxies StarWars is and isn't even about... It honestly gets a bit stupid, and UnNecessarily more convoluted than the story ever needed to be.
Alot of it makes a millennium sound as insignificant as a single day, too. IDGAF what happened several million "years" BBY/ABY... It's like a new chunk of centuries is a whole new continuity if some1 mistakenly thought they needed their own chunk of the multiverse for their story to happen, or their story is jammed InTo some time that it would contradict other events.
Another thing is that "Star Wars" often seems like a BuzzWord only associated with works too UnOriginal and UnCrrative enough to have made a name for themselves. Fiction is harder work than FanFiction.
Your saying its bad that the Star Wars Galaxy has a galaxy's worth of people who take these ideals and concepts in their own way leading to many different groups organizations and factions rising and falling over generations?
I think it more with how the Sith used the dark side as organization like the Nightsisters didn't really have organization. One thought that has been in my thoughts recently is what if the Sith were organized like the Hutt. Since they had a similar of almost destroying themselves in civil war until they reorganized themselves. Having sith clans that competed with each other but had a council over them that soul job to keep it form getting self destructive and coordinating against there enemies.
See this? This is why a little bit of philosophy is a bad thing. Ya gotta commit, otherwise you and up a solipsist and ya cause a galactic scale war between space wizards :p
In the Grim Darkness of a Galaxy far, far away there is only war, the New Sith wage endless war against the Rotting Republic and the Besieged Jedi in countless battlefields led by countless Sith Cults who bring new horrors that haunt the minds of people for years to come, and now the Republic is a shadow of itself and many Jedi have become Lords of entire worlds and armies that stand against a new Brotherhood led by one of their former best Jedi Masters, and many whisper that this one thousand years of war will bring about the end of the Republic and the Jedi, but only the Force can know the end result of the New Sith War.
I still preferred the Sith Empire founded by Darth Vitiate but reformed by Darth Marr and Darth Acina over the Rule of Two anytime. After all, it became more Empire than Sith and the idea of the Republic ruling the galaxy alone without sharing anyone the territory is a bad idea because the galaxy is too big to be governed by one polity.
Classic case of Sci-Fi writers having no concept of scale and going for the safe end of things. It's a bit of a pet-peeve of mine. I might believe a battle between two competing GALACTIC POWERS were inportant if they managed to lose a couple tens of millions total, including civilian casualties, because that sounds like it would actually take a good bit of effort to transport around and be a MAJOR investment of time and resources and lives, committed to one battle. Hell, given ship-crew numbers in EvE Online last week's brawl over one system between my coalition and our enemies saw more people die than that!
I’ve rewatched the old Star Wars movies and I have a question how does moisture farming work in the Star Wars galaxy I’ve seen all the videos about just about everything accept for this it seems stupid but I am genuinely curious.
Would love for this galactic era to be completely fleshed out, but it might ruin the aura of mystery and ambiguity if that is so. Kinda like how the DC Animated Universe feels better with keeping the Near-Apocalypse of '09 partially known to the audience.
I would want sort of an encylopedia/history book on this period. Don't need comics, novels, games, just a factual history of the things that went down during this millennium. Keep the particulars mysterious as you say
I like part where they got bored of adopting 40k tone for this era, and then just said “f it, let’s do the borg now, but also night of the living dead”
Almost nothing of all that is agaalaxy without jedi. Also i hate the idea of a sith hq on tython just as much as the jedi to b there. By the established facts about it's nature, a dark lord with a growing dark side powereed plague or the jedi council without a counterweight should cause the weather to go crazy as f, but it doesn't for some reason. It's never explained why such a core aspect of the planet would have changed.
I want an era where the Sith get a true Sith’ari.. conquer most the galaxy.. one where a Jedi’s sacrifice leads to generational darkness.. which eventually succumbs to infighting.. as is the nature of the Sith
@@raptorzeraora2632 Ignorance does not change the fact. The Sith's ambitions is what the Jedi needed to prevent the Republic from falling into corruption and the Sith need the Jedi as healers and mediators