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So You Think You Want a 3DFX Voodoo: The Rendition Vérité V2200 

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@RetroTechBytes
@RetroTechBytes 3 года назад
My sincerest apologies to any of you who I haven’t responded to! It appears that there’s some sort of bug with RU-vid where some comments just aren’t showing up. I’m not quite sure what’s up with that, but I know that a few of you asked about the vBIOS update and the drivers. Here’s a link to all of the Diamond drivers, as well as a package containing 3 vBIOSes: vogonsdrivers.com/getfile.php?fileid=321&menustate=0 BIOS 1.36 is what I have on my card, and it gives the best performance, as it clocks the card at where a V2200 should be clocked, instead of leaving it at the factory underclock, thereby reducing performance. Similarly, here’s a link to all the reference drivers provided by Rendition: vogonsdrivers.com/getfile.php?fileid=1537&menustate=0 I used v2.3 to run vQuake II and had issues with other drivers in attempting to do the same. Additionally, I used v3.0b5 for OpenGL support in Half-Life. The Diamond drivers are VERY stable if you’re not trying to run vQuake or vQuake II. Sometimes I had issues where vQuake refused to exit while in Windows, and the reference drivers seemed to ameliorate that. There’s a couple of really good sites about vQuake and vQuake II, which contain links to the executables, as well as a list of all available console commands. See here: www.oocities.org/timessquare/fortress/6191/vquake.html and here: www.oocities.org/timessquare/fortress/6191/vquake2.html vQuake II is an alpha, so it’s not exactly the easiest thing to get going either. If you give it a go, just make sure to run the console command “vid_ref v1k” to switch to the Rendition renderer! Otherwise, if there’s any more questions or comments or anything, feel free to comment and I’ll get back to you as soon as I can! Thank you all for the continued support and interest!
@asanjuas
@asanjuas 3 года назад
Is there a variant of verite v2200 on agp slot?
@WildRapier
@WildRapier Год назад
The one I have (still) came clocked @ 35Mhz (not sure which BIOS I ran). I added heat sinks to the VRAM and a heat sink and fan to the GPU...yours looks bare! I did this not long after I got the card when I realized the overclocking potential. I was able to get it to 70 Mhz stable running Verite Quake. It would not go any further. Though I think I superglued the heat sinks to the chips! I've learned since '97. I still have it...and it still runs! BTW...are you sure you're not missing some posts on your motherboard? That's some big flex on it when you're yanking on those cards and the processor.
@abcd1239me
@abcd1239me 2 года назад
This card was actually my first 3D card, I was amazed at it with quake, I still have it and use it in my 90s PCs, I got it at a local vendor for $80 If I remember correctly, but that was back in 1999
@RetroTechBytes
@RetroTechBytes 2 года назад
It really is a great Quake card! The Renditions are just so interesting for their place in PC history. I'd say that they're definitely underrated, and deserve a second look! I love the story though; the memories of this thing must be quite nice!
@LionWithTheLamb
@LionWithTheLamb Год назад
I got one in 1998 for I think it was $25 dollars used. I do believe that it got damaged though somehow in storage after I got my TNT 16MB.
@abcd1239me
@abcd1239me Год назад
@@RetroTechBytes the memories are great. It was/is a beast for Quake. I remember we bought Need for speed 3 hot pursuit I was floored. Where as my friend at the time was using software rendering
@arandomperson8336
@arandomperson8336 Год назад
I remember getting a 3DFX card many years ago. Going from 320x240 software-rendered Quake to 640x480 at smooth 60 FPS was just mind-blowing at the time.
@josephyau979
@josephyau979 3 года назад
It was originally clocked at 40mhz/100mhz core/memory. Then there was a bios update that increased it to 55mhz/100mhz, however, you could really push it. Add a little heatsink and it would clock at 70mhz/140mhz. It was a value beast.
@RetroTechBytes
@RetroTechBytes 3 года назад
Hey, thanks for watching and thanks for the support! I do have that BIOS update on my card and it really did make a massive difference. Truthfully, without it, I probably wouldn't have made this video; it makes the card a much more interesting and much more pleasant experience. I can't believe just how well these things take that OC, and I'd be interested to see how it does at 70MHz/140MHz, as that seems like a pretty big jump, but I can imagine it'd be stable. I'll have to give it a go sometime!
@PixelPipes
@PixelPipes 3 года назад
Very nice overview! A very under-appreciated graphics chip maker by modern collectors. Even the original V1000E plays vQuake 2 admirably at 320x240. You had mentioned some interesting information about boosted performance with newer BIOSes on twitter, and I'm surprised it didn't get a mention here! One minor correction, the memory interface is 64-bit, same as its predecessor the V1000E.
@RetroTechBytes
@RetroTechBytes 3 года назад
Thank you so much fo the kind words! I love these cards, even though they're really under-appreciated. I'd love to nab a V1000E! I had NO idea that it could run vQuake 2! That's really impressive and a testament to the Verite Span Renderer! I did briefly mention it, but I'm considering making a brief tech byte kinda video showing how to update the vBIOS on these cards. It makes a world of difference. And oh, wow, thank you for catching this! It's funny because my notes had it at 64-bit too! I've been staring at VLB cards for my 486 for too long haha
@PixelPipes
@PixelPipes 3 года назад
@@RetroTechBytes oh if I missed the BIOS mention I apologize!
@RetroTechBytes
@RetroTechBytes 3 года назад
@@PixelPipes Oh, no worries at all! I only mentioned it briefly and now I'm really considering doing a quick follow-up on this card! Either way, thank you for the idea, really! This is fantastic! And again, thank you for all the kind words! Truthfully, I'm trying to figure this whole RU-vid thing out hahaha
@PixelPipes
@PixelPipes 3 года назад
@@RetroTechBytes Keep it up! Making videos is always shaky in the beginning, but no one can tell you how to make YOUR videos. You'll figure out what works best for you over time. ;)
@RetroTechBytes
@RetroTechBytes 3 года назад
@@PixelPipes Thank you, really! I really needed to hear this. I know that I want to keep improving and learning all of this stuff and figuring out editing and audio and the works has just been an absolute blast. I love sharing my passion with others and can’t wait to keep going! Thank you again!
@yorgle11
@yorgle11 Год назад
I put one of these cards into a Pentium MMX system about a year ago. I've decided to leave it there at least until I play through Quake. I never got very far in that game back in the 90s, so I need to get back to it. It's also interesting that this GPU has an accelerated version of Papyrus IndyCar Racing 2. I wish they made a similar accelerated version of NASCAR Racing, a game I played obsessively back then. I recall reading they had some manufacturing issue with the V2200 chip which caused a huge delay in it getting launched. That delay was fatal. They had the fastest GPU for a month, then Voodoo2 came out and they were a generation behind again. This killed the value of the chips and the cards, and ruined Rendition's chance to gain an enthusiast following. The 3D gaming chip market in the late 90s was such a precarious business to be in. It was so easy for 1 strategic mistake or manufacturing problem to doom the fortunes of a company, leaving them without enough revenue to keep up with R&D. By the end of 2000 there were only 2 companies left competing at the premium tier.
@diggernash1
@diggernash1 Год назад
My first 3d experience was a Rendition v1000, then upgraded to a v2100. Bought them for NASCAR racing 2(TEN online gaming), but played a lot of VQuake.
@jikissgamer
@jikissgamer 3 года назад
So fascinating! I've always wondered about the Rendition Verite and I learned a lot from this video. Excellent work! Subbed 👍
@RetroTechBytes
@RetroTechBytes 3 года назад
Thank you so much man! The Rendition cards are just so underrated in comparison to their 3dfx counterparts. I think part of that has to do with 3dfx’s legendary status and longer life, but there’s something special about non-Voodoo 3D cards that did things their own way!
@PROSTO4Tabal
@PROSTO4Tabal 2 года назад
Ahhh yes good old 3d stuff. The best looking half life is probably voodoo3 and aureal vortex 2. I'd personally choose p3b-f for handling 90s games. Thanks for sharing mate
@RetroTechBytes
@RetroTechBytes 2 года назад
Hey thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed and I agree-V3 and Vortex2 is a lethal combo and perfect for Half Life. THe P3B-F is a legendary board, but I’m also partial to some of the Via 133A boards out there for stranger combos. Intel’s 440BX is the best chipset by far, though. Thanks for watching!
@infinity2z3r07
@infinity2z3r07 3 года назад
Best video on the interwebs about the ds ii s220! Waited a long time to see someone run HL on one lol. Subbed just for that!
@RetroTechBytes
@RetroTechBytes 3 года назад
Hey, thank you! And thank you for the sub and for the support! There's plenty more on the way, and I hope that you enjoy!! Glad to hear that you enjoyed! It's funny you mention HL on the S220--I honestly was trying to think of a game that didn't belong on this thing, and yet I had to try. The Voodoo 1 runs HL just fine, so, if this thing competed against it, I figured why not! And, in all honesty, it was hilarious! I have so much footage I couldn't use, and it was just the game running like I was playing it on a toaster! Firefights were like watching a powerpoint LOL!
@techkev140
@techkev140 Год назад
Wow. Somewhere I've got a several page spread from PC Format magazine (in the 90's), showing dozens of competing cards in the early days of PC 3D gaming. It was mainly 3 variations of the S3 Verge (or Derge as it was known 😆), a few 3dfx Voodoo variants, I think Matrox's Mystique or Millenium (don't recall which) was in there along with the Rendition Verite and a little known chip (from or called) Glint. That is off the top of my head. At one point I had a Matrox M3D based on the PowerVR2 chip, that had 4MB RAM. It was a pass through board (like the early 3Dfx 1&2) but used the PCI bus instead of a VGA cable. So no loss of image, it had no issue running Half-Life back in the day. It was along side a 2D card providing the screen buffer. I never saw either Verite or Glint based cards.
@spladam3845
@spladam3845 3 года назад
Great video again Will. I had one of these back in the day, briefly, I was right out of high school and didn't have a big budget for PC gaming, it was the very first budget orientated accelerator and I used it on my socket 7 board. Very informative vide here, again your knowledge of the old tech is impressive.
@RetroTechBytes
@RetroTechBytes 3 года назад
Thank you so much for the kind words! I really do appreciate it and I am so glad that you enjoyed! I love these cards and wish I would've bought one when I was younger instead of relying upon the i740 integrated into my computer's mainboard. Not a great choice, in hindsight, but eh, it worked at the time haha. The S220 is harder to find these days, but it's a solid card and I've used this one on-and-off for years with great success. Rendition made a fine product, and it's a darn shame they didn't last longer!
@modernandretrogaming
@modernandretrogaming 3 года назад
Great video, that card looks faster than first Voodoo card, mine V1 was slower on Quake II than your Rendition card. Great work, I hope you do more videos like that.
@RetroTechBytes
@RetroTechBytes 3 года назад
Thank you for these really nice words! Interestingly, this is true of the Rendition card but only for Quake II. The Quake II renderer that’s being used is specific to these cards, and, from what I understand, vQuake II is technically superior to GLQuake and GLQuake II in terms of optimization and implementation. But, for most other GL or D3D applications, the Voodoo 1 is far, far faster. The Rendition does trade blows with a Voodoo Rush in most things, though, but the Rush is a good bit slower than a true Voodoo 1!
@PixelPolishTV
@PixelPolishTV 3 года назад
Damn! Quake never really sat with me well on Voodoo cards. Washed out and muddy. To this day I prefer software renderer or unfiltered look even in source ports. I do have to admit though that vQuake looks so much better!
@RetroTechBytes
@RetroTechBytes 3 года назад
Hey, thanks for checking out my video! I hope you enjoyed! Yeah, vQuake really does look great and I agree with you on the Voodoos. 3D-accelerated Quake generally looks meh on LCDs, and vQuake is clear and crisp, but also somewhat better than software-mode Quake. That, and it runs well too! Thanks again for checking it out, I hope you enjoyed!
@SUCRA
@SUCRA 3 года назад
Congrats on the video! So much information. I heard about rendition before but that's about it. So interesting, I really enjoyed it.
@RetroTechBytes
@RetroTechBytes 3 года назад
Thank you man, I appreciate it so much! Rendition is so underrated. Their image quality and anti-aliasing are bar-none for their time! I’m really glad that you enjoyed it! They’re really cool cards, and I wish that more people would talk about them because they genuinely are alternatives to a Voodoo that still cost less!
@kaldorf
@kaldorf Год назад
If I recall there was some mingl fix that someone developed for this card. I remember copying some v2xxx file somewhere in windows 98. I used this card at my very first lan party along with my p200mmx. I think I got the card on sale for under $50. Voodoo 1 cards were a pipe dream on my budget. This card served me well.
@rddr41
@rddr41 3 года назад
Rendition was super nice with Tomb Raider, no other card did it as good.
@RetroTechBytes
@RetroTechBytes 3 года назад
Thanks for watching! Yeah, agreed on that, big time. Rendition cards seem to handle games that are traditionally thought of to run best on 3dfx hardware even better than 3dfx cards could, in the sense that the images are less muddled and that the performance is close or within a reasonable delta. It's an interesting alternative and it's definitely one of those cards that could've--and should've--done well in the market! Thanks again for checking out my video! I hope you enjoyed!
@vswitchzero
@vswitchzero 3 года назад
Awesome video, thanks for sharing! I can’t wait to try out my diamond s220 as well. I’m very impressed by how good VQuake looks. It looks more like GLQuake running on a modern GPU than the modified glide version for 3dfx cards. By the way how do you get your card PCBs so clean and shiny! They look brand new 🙂
@RetroTechBytes
@RetroTechBytes 3 года назад
Thank you so much for watching! The s220 is a blast and, while it’s a pain to get going with the drivers, I wholeheartedly have to say that it’s one of the coolest non-3dfx 3D-accelerators out there! I do highly recommend updating the BIOS to version 1.36! It really amps up the card’s performance and it still stays quite cool! Anyway, as far as your card, I hope that you really enjoy it and VQuake! It runs spectacularly, and VQuake II is just as cool and fun! And thank you! I really appreciate it! I just brush them with an anti-static brush and keep them in anti-static bags! If you run into any quirks, feel free to reach out and I can share what worked for me!
@fullmetaljacket7
@fullmetaljacket7 2 года назад
My very first 3D accelerator. Bought it so I could play NFS3HP and I was impressed how much of a difference it made compared to SW rendering lol I was running a Pentium MMX 233 back then. Good times!
@RetroTechBytes
@RetroTechBytes 2 года назад
Glad I could bring back some good memories! SW looks nice, but nothing beats dedicated 3D!
@MajorMalfunction
@MajorMalfunction Год назад
I remember these with great ire. At the time I worked phone support for the company that imported them. Half of them got sent back because people just couldn't get them to run.
@ohsoretro5612
@ohsoretro5612 3 года назад
Great video! You beat me to it by a few weeks :) I have been working on my own Verite video for about a month now, funnily enough using the exact same Diamond S220 card! But yeah, its great to see someone else covering these cards - they really were very interesting for their time! Keep up the good work!
@RetroTechBytes
@RetroTechBytes 3 года назад
Thank you! I really appreciate it! The S220 is such a great card, and it really is a blast to work with! I hope that you've been enjoying working with it as much as I have! And thank you, I can't wait to see your video! They really were strange and different, and the fact that they're just "not 3dfx" is really, really cool! But again, thank you so much! I really cannot overstate just how much I appreciate the kind words!
@ohsoretro5612
@ohsoretro5612 3 года назад
@@RetroTechBytes You're welcome! They are pretty cool cards and I do quite like them. Interestingly I didn't have any issues with the Diamond drivers on the CD and those actually seemed to work the best for me. I also chose totally different games to try (Hexen2, MDK, Nascar2, Descent2, Tomb Raider etc) but getting the card up and running isn't that easy for sure. By the way, did you ever find a source for the $50 price claim made on that website? I also included it in my video but am thinking of cutting it because I cant find any actual advert/source to say they were being sold that cheaply..
@RetroTechBytes
@RetroTechBytes 3 года назад
@@ohsoretro5612 Thank you again, really! They definitely are something unique, and I'm glad to see that others feel the same about them! As much as I love 3dfx, seeing Voodoos everywhere is a little stale. Huh, it's funny you mention that--I found the Diamond Drivers okay for everything except vQuake II! They seemed a lot more full-featured than the Rendition reference ones, but for some reason they weren't as compatible. It's funny, the games you picked are ones that I heavily considered--especially Hexen II. That was practically made for the Verite! As far as the $50 claim, I haven't found anything showing sale at that price itself, but some prices were well below MSRP in/around the $60 range. I felt comfortable using it because it seemed logical, especially given the references to rebate programs that I had seen on a few sites. I imagine that these cards didn't sell too well, but it seems like most of the information on Rendition that's out there is so limited. It's a shame, really. There's an awful lot to be said about them! Anyway, I can't wait for your video! And thanks again for all the kind words, I really appreciate it more than you know!
@Meton12765
@Meton12765 Год назад
What you want is both, 3Dfx and Verite. I did used to have that set.
@mydogsgfhasmoretestosteron7140
@mydogsgfhasmoretestosteron7140 2 года назад
A p2 233 actually _does_ struggle with hl.
@stevesmusic1862
@stevesmusic1862 3 года назад
I had forgotten Die by the Sword. What a great game!
@RetroTechBytes
@RetroTechBytes 3 года назад
Haha it really is! It's a fun way to kill time and I've messed around in it for years! The sarcastic narrator is the best part for me!
@OpenGL4ever
@OpenGL4ever 7 месяцев назад
In the beginning, the purpose of a 3D card was to relieve the load on the CPU and thus achieve much smoother frame rates than the CPU could in software rendering mode due to the existing games, which were initially all developed for software rendering. For this reason, it is best to put such a card in a slow Pentium 133 MHz or slower. A Pentium 2 is already faster in software rendering mode. I played the first few levels of Jedi Knight in software rendering mode because my P2 266 MHz was fast enough for that and there were no usable 2D/3D graphics cards for my taste available, when i bought my P2 brand new. Around 2 years later i installed a Voodoo 3 2000 PCI as soon as it was available. A suitable card for your P2 333 MHz would therefore be a Voodoo 3 or even better a Voodoo 4 or 5 but definitely not this Rendition Verite V2200.
@michaeldale837
@michaeldale837 3 года назад
Amazing video and amazing card, love it. Thanks for making it. I'm lucky enough to own one of the same cards but I've never used, so I'll have to try it! I do love some Mechwarrior 2.
@RetroTechBytes
@RetroTechBytes 3 года назад
Hey, thank you for watching! I'm so glad that you enjoyed! I definitely hope you do, and if you run into anything that might lend itself to a question, feel free to reach out to me here, on Twitter, or via my email! I'll help however I can! I hope that you enjoy it as much as I did! The Rendition cards are quite unique and very cool!
@marianochiappe2427
@marianochiappe2427 Год назад
Nice video! The rendition was my first video card, really impressive performance for the price and for only 4 megs of ram! I remember also Tomb Raider 3 had Rendition support and Monster Truck Madness 2.
@LionWithTheLamb
@LionWithTheLamb 7 месяцев назад
I had a 8MB AGP V2200 which worked really well in my K6 system that I had back then.
@edmo517
@edmo517 3 года назад
my first 3D card, diamond s220, the first game I tried was SODA offroad. I was hook on 3D.
@RetroTechBytes
@RetroTechBytes 3 года назад
Thanks for watching and I hope you enjoyed! That’s too awesome! The Diamond S220 must’ve been one heck of a first 3D card! Rendition really captured a very cool space in the market and made some fascinating products!
@AlValentyn
@AlValentyn 3 года назад
I do like that Voodoo's PCB colour at the intro
@RetroTechBytes
@RetroTechBytes 3 года назад
Thanks! Nothing beats a PCB with some color!
@AlValentyn
@AlValentyn 3 года назад
@@RetroTechBytes So true! I've actually gotten duplicate models before just to have the different PCB colours
@RetroTechBytes
@RetroTechBytes 3 года назад
@@AlValentyn Oh yeah, that’s absolutely the move! You can’t have enough PCBs and Voodoos!
@MartinGP_3dfxlegacy
@MartinGP_3dfxlegacy 3 года назад
Hi! The v2200 is limited by CPU. I have seen tests and the top is Pentium 233. I will see the video more carefully, and you can compare the Mechwarrior 2 with the Videologic version. Interesting video. PS: I am looking for this card :(
@RetroTechBytes
@RetroTechBytes 3 года назад
Interesting! Thanks for letting me know! I figured I was about hitting the limits of the card, but it’s definitely quite impressive for what it is! And for what it cost? It’s a great deal! Finding these is tough. I’ve had this one for a long while, but I do see some Stealth IIs pop-up now-and-again for less than a reference model!
@esc2dos
@esc2dos 2 года назад
Really appreciate this video, you answered all my questions.
@ChristianRamses
@ChristianRamses Год назад
It´s nice to see fans of this card today, but I had one to use back in the day, and I never did. I had a Diamond Monster Voodoo 3Dfx connected to a Rendition V2100, and I could just choose what card to run the game on. The 3Dfx card would just run, period. The Rendition would not run at all, or run really slow, or full of glitches and visual bugs. Not as bad as a Permidia or a S3 Diamond Stealth, but geez. So I used it as a 2D gaming card and for Windows GUI, which was fine. Also, first card that I did a BIOS update. Saw no difference, but I did. In Rendition defense though, I guess my CPU was weak. Can´t remember if it was a 486DX2 66 or one of those Cyrix scams.
@OpenGL4ever
@OpenGL4ever 7 месяцев назад
The Rendition, especially the V1000 does have one other drawback. It is a very slow videocard for DOS Games that use Software Rendering. Thus games like Duke Nukem 3d or Wing Commander 4. A real 2d DOS videocard with enough RAM for high resolution window modes and 2d window acceleration features is a much better combination with a Voodoo Graphics or Voodoo 2 accelerator.
@BrassicGamer
@BrassicGamer 3 года назад
I think this is the first video I've seen about this card, which I read about at the time it came out but have never come across. I would quite like to own one, because of its quirkiness, crucial timing and rarity. It must be one of the worst (best?) examples of how quickly these things became obsolete, though. Again, that was '90s PC tech for you.
@RetroTechBytes
@RetroTechBytes 3 года назад
Thanks for watching, and, as always, thanks for the support! It really does mean a lot more than you know! This is an interesting card for precisely the reasons you’ve said-the quirkiness and its timing into the market are kind of identity-defining. What’s most interesting is the AGP variants, which actually function like Voodoo 3s do, whereby the AGP bus is used basically as a 66MHz PCI interconnect. I’m not sure how much faster that’d make them, but it’s kind of unique to that card and the Voodoo 3! I agree, though. Time marches on and these cards were obsoleted quite fast. That being said, vQuake is still a delight. I hope that you find one sometime soon!
@drzeissler
@drzeissler 2 года назад
a used card is actual more expensive then a new one back then.
@RetroTechBytes
@RetroTechBytes 2 года назад
It really is. What a shame, too, as these are nice cards, but they’re not super rare or anything. Prices for all sorts of retro goodies are absurd at the moment, unfortunately. Thankfully, these do pop up from time to time for a reasonable sum, but it’s a mess out there.
@GeneralFaliure
@GeneralFaliure 3 года назад
I owned this card back in the day. I also flashed the bios to the higher speed.
@RetroTechBytes
@RetroTechBytes 3 года назад
Thanks for watching! I hope you enjoyed! It's such a simple trick and makes all the difference. The card is great even without the BIOS flash, but with it, it seems just as cool, and much, much faster overall. It's really impressive just how far these Rendition cards could be pushed!
@mytube9182
@mytube9182 3 года назад
Someone really needs to write a Verite emulation for DOSBox.
@RetroTechBytes
@RetroTechBytes 3 года назад
Thanks for watching!! I hope you enjoyed! Agreed! Honestly, it’s more compelling than glide because vQuake is so darn pretty! Rendition’s rendering is more hardware-specific, but I’m sure it can be emulated. I’d love to see it, as these cards are a bear to find working. The verite had a shorter life than it should’ve, but it’d be neat if someone could bring it back to the masses via DosBox or some build thereof!
@mytube9182
@mytube9182 3 года назад
@@RetroTechBytes Totally agreed that Rendition emulation is more compelling than 3dfx's. There's also Tomb Raider that looks more vibrant with Verite V1k compares to Glide version with quite washed out color and yet Rebel moon which runs in 3D acceleration only with V1k as well as vQuake which you just made me perceive how it was so valuable. I once had both V1k and the Diamond Stealth II S220 (V2100). It's so regrettable for me today by the fact that I sold both of them to buy Voodoo 2 card by a misled depreciation in the past.
@RetroTechBytes
@RetroTechBytes 3 года назад
@@mytube9182 Absolutely agreed! OpenGL in Quake is unimpressive visually. The performance is definitely great, but there’s no denying that vQuake was the original 3D-accelerated port of Quake, and it’s probably the coolest because of that. Hey, Voodoo2s were still legendary cards! But you know what? Having had and enjoyed the Verite is the best part, and the memories that come from it are just something that wont leave you!
@mytube9182
@mytube9182 3 года назад
@@RetroTechBytes That's very true. I just can't forget the Verite's and feel that the defunct of Rendition is something regrettable when it come to stories of 3D accelerators.
@bunter6
@bunter6 3 года назад
Rendition were such a loss to the market, they had the potential to be a 3rd big player but Micron bought then and ran then into the ground. I had a V1000 system and even no that Vquake ran great. During this time ATI were nowhere they were still struggling to make a competitive 3D solution like S3 were, an opportunity was there to be taken.
@RetroTechBytes
@RetroTechBytes 3 года назад
Hey, thanks for watching! Oh yeah, the V1000 is such a cool card! And I bet it was great on vQuake! It probably would’ve handled vQuake II just fine too actually! The span renderer was developed for the V1000s.They definitely were really close to being the 3rd dominant market runner, that’s for sure. I think the Micron acquisition was just sort of the inevitable result of their issues on V2200 yields. From what I’ve read, the V3300 and V4400 would’ve been interesting alternatives to the later Voodoos and might’ve approached Voodoo 3-level. Something like a vQuake III and associated renderer for Quake III engine games would’ve been really cool. It’s interesting to think about ATI’s rise and incline to number 2 with Nvidia. It’s kind of interesting because they did have some really nice cards early on, but they weren’t really gaming-friendly. The Mach32 with a full 2MB of VRAM was very, very fast for a VLB and ISA card, and it had a 64-bit data path to the memory. Thing is, the add-in card vendors just sold the 1MB DRAM variants and crippled the cards horribly. It’s a shame, really, and business moves like that cost ATI time and dominance. S3 did quite well with the Savage4, but that was late to the party. S3TC is such a cool tech though! UT99 looks gorgeous on it!
@bunter6
@bunter6 3 года назад
@@RetroTechBytes 100% agree. I did buy a Creative 3D Blaster Savage 4 & it did have great image quality but performance was so disappointing. I Love old ATI & S3 Stuff & have an ISA VGA Wonder 512k in my 286 system & a S3 Virge in my 486. Cant beat them for legacy compatibility.
@DavidStahlOLDHAPPyMACs
@DavidStahlOLDHAPPyMACs 3 года назад
I Subbed Steve At Mac 84 Recommend Your Channel I Like Your Content Great Video
@RetroTechBytes
@RetroTechBytes 3 года назад
Hey thanks a million! It means so much to hear this and I’m really glad that you liked the video! I plan on constantly improving the content and posting more and more, so stay tuned for the next video! I hope you enjoy!
@cptcrogge
@cptcrogge 3 года назад
I have one of these and didn't knew the BIOS can be updated :o
@RetroTechBytes
@RetroTechBytes 3 года назад
Hey, glad that I could help! If you want to update yours, here's a reliable link to a file with all the BIOSes and drivers: vogonsdrivers.com/getfile.php?fileid=321 Version 1.36 will turn this effectively into a Verite V2200!
@vgamuseum
@vgamuseum 3 года назад
Good job, finally someone realized that retro cards are not only Voodoo, ATi and Nvidia....hate when i see 3rd video about rage maxx, gf256 etc and so many cards are not covered at all.... Just one minor correction - don't think that is fair telling people that verite 2200 have small video memory, as yours model is probably only one ever made with 4MB. All other cards were made with 8MB. Only diamond had deal with rendition that they can made 4MB underclocked model, thus verite 2100 naming. Technicaly you should rename title, as youre testint Verite 2100 :-)
@RetroTechBytes
@RetroTechBytes 3 года назад
Hey thank you! I feel like you’re right on about the Rage Maxx, GF256, and the Voodoos dominating, often unfairly. There’s a lot of really cool cards out there too that just aren’t talked about, like the Number Nine Imagine 128 and its follow-up. It’s interesting how mainstream the Voodoos and ATI/Nvidia cards were and continue to be-I guess it goes to show how far mindshare and marketing go! And ah, dang, yep you are absolutely right! The AGP models are something I wish I had mentioned too. I might make a follow-up to this and clarify a few things. Truthfully, my main reason for calling it a V2200 was the VBIOS update that Diamond provided, which pumped the clocks on this to 2200 levels. Otherwise, I thought-and very well might be wrong-that the V2100 was the same silicon as the V2200, just lower clocked and perhaps lesser binned? If I’m wrong, I’ll absolutely make that clear! The Diamond S220 is kind of a lesser card because of its lower-end target market and limited RAM/underclock. It’d probably be a much, much more competent card as a true V2200, but the Stealth line of Diamond cards seemed geared toward the more budget-friendly sector anyway. The AGP 8MB V2200s seem like BEASTS and I’d love to get one sometime! I’d imagine they’re a bit faster than a Voodoo 1, no? Either way, thanks for watching and thank you for the input! I appreciate it greatly! :)
@vgamuseum
@vgamuseum 3 года назад
@@RetroTechBytes Really liked your recording equipmnent. The fact that you could switch resolutions in games when recording. Are you using some capture card, of external camera?
@RetroTechBytes
@RetroTechBytes 3 года назад
@@vgamuseum Hey thank you! I really appreciate it! So, I have a semi-convoluted setup that seems to work pretty well. Basically, my main capture card is an AverMedia C127 Game Broadcaster HD. I have an Extron RGB-HDMI 300A handling Analog-Digital conversion and scaling, and then run that to an Extron P/2 DA2 Plus, which is just a powered VGA splitter so that I can have a strong signal at both the monitor and D/A converter. For audio, I just run from the line out to the line in on my PC with a standard 3.5mm to 3.5mm cable, and use one of those small, cheapo ground loop filters on right before the line in. It seems to work fairly well, although I'm sure I could always use the Extron for that too since it supports that natively. The only issue, so-to-speak, is that DOS is limited to 60Hz by the Extron, as it can't scale to 70Hz. But, for the purposes of 4k60 on RU-vid, that works just fine for me!
@peshozmiata
@peshozmiata 9 месяцев назад
I wonder how HL1 performs on the regular 8MB version of this card.
@RetroSpector78
@RetroSpector78 3 года назад
Really great video … also found this one in my batch of PCI cards. What bios version and tool did you use to upgrade the card ? Don’t really wanna risk turning the card into a dud :)
@RetroSpector78
@RetroSpector78 3 года назад
And now off course I am seeing your pinned comment with all the info :)
@RetroTechBytes
@RetroTechBytes 3 года назад
Sorry for not responding sooner! Yeah, the one thing I was afraid of was bricking my card, but, thankfully, the process seems pretty foolproof! I hope that you were able to get it working on yours! I still have to check out your vid, but I'm a bit behind on that stuff at the moment. Thanks again for the support!
@cheater00
@cheater00 3 года назад
It seems you have a fan light above you, and the pulsating brightness is making me super nauseous. I know it's not intended - just letting you know. It might also be a fluorescent light that's beating with the framerate of the camera.
@RetroTechBytes
@RetroTechBytes 3 года назад
My apologies! I definitely did not notice that, and haven't heard about it, but I will and have been keeping it in mind going forward! I will say that my video filming and editing has changed a lot since I made this video, and I'm proud of how much everyone has been able to teach me. Thanks for letting me know, seriously!
@cheater00
@cheater00 3 года назад
@@RetroTechBytes Thanks! Good luck
@somecaptures9344
@somecaptures9344 3 года назад
I have also some videos of V2200. Playlist: ru-vid.com/group/PLefSSmV9TiaqT0cRu6VkBZCPGBlIcENRc
@RetroTechBytes
@RetroTechBytes 3 года назад
Oh, wow, this is so neat! I'll have to check this out! Thank you for sharing, and thanks for dropping by and checking out my video! I hope that you enjoyed!
@RetroTinkerer
@RetroTinkerer 3 года назад
Someday I will forget myself for giving away to my brother my Pentium Pro 200 & Asus MB and one of these? Yep someday, not today!!!
@RetroTechBytes
@RetroTechBytes 3 года назад
Thanks for watching! Hey, as long as you enjoyed them and got some good use out of them, then I think there's nothing to regret! They're awesome cards, but they're definitely quite niche and limited in terms of their time and what they can properly run. That being said, the PPRO 200 was an awesome CPU! Do you think he still might have any of that computer left? It'd be a cool system to bring back and enjoy again, but hey, what matters most is the fun you had!
@RetroTinkerer
@RetroTinkerer 3 года назад
@@RetroTechBytes It was such a blast having such a capable system and experience the first 3d games with that rendition card, it was awesome! I just hope that my brother and nephew also enjoyed it (they barely remember it 😂) The system was left in a computer shop for repair, he never went back to pick it up. The truth is that this was so many years ago and neither of us were in to old hardware that I'm not sure I would had kept it anyway. I would had probably gifted it to some friend like I did with almost everything else, at least I kept my Slot-A K7, VooDoo2 and all my games. 😄
@RetroTechBytes
@RetroTechBytes 3 года назад
@@RetroTinkerer oh that’s awesome! I love hearing memories like these and hearing that I could help bring some nostalgia! Rendition was a really cool option in early 3D and it reminds me of cards like the S3 Savage4 even. A sort of different option, that yielded really, really neat results, if you will! And hahaha I hope that they did too! Ah dang, I see! Hey, the Slot-A K7 and Voodoo2 are one heck of a combo there! I hope that you’ve been able to keep on enjoying them! The Slot-A K7s are getting harder and harder to find. They’re very cool and totally more interesting than Slot 1 machines, that’s for sure!
@el3ctr1c4l
@el3ctr1c4l Год назад
Quake 1 & 2 accelerated with this card, look just like Software Mode but with filtered textures, albeit with better performance, but it just looks bland..
@dmoney7301
@dmoney7301 3 года назад
I loved 3dfx and yes they were expensive. My newly created Retro PC has a Voodoo 4 4500 can't seem to remember where I put the old Voodoo 5 5500. Oh.. How is it playing around with Ancient tech that was present before you were born guy?
@RetroTechBytes
@RetroTechBytes 3 года назад
Oh wow, that's awesome! The Voodoo 4 is a really cool card and the Voodoo 5s are insanely interesting, especially for their time. I hope you enjoy your system! Sounds like a beast! What are the other specs, if you don't mind sharing? I never had a Voodoo and always lusted after the Voodoo 2, especially when SLI was first demonstrated. And haha, I'm actually a bit older than these cards, and I do remember them being new, but it's always fun to revisit things from a time when I wasn't quite as interested in computing as I am today, and from when I certainly didn't know as much or understand as much! I actually didn't know much of Rendition until lately, that's for sure. Anyway, thanks for watching! I hope that you enjoyed!
@dmoney7301
@dmoney7301 3 года назад
@@RetroTechBytes I was just messing around about the age thing. :) I will list the Specs in the next reply.
@RetroTechBytes
@RetroTechBytes 3 года назад
@@dmoney7301 I can't wait! And haha I was just joking too! I won't lie that I'm a bit green when it comes to a lot of this stuff, but it's a blast and a ton of fun to share!
@dmoney7301
@dmoney7301 3 года назад
@@RetroTechBytes I listed it 2 times and it was deleted and not by me.
@dmoney7301
@dmoney7301 3 года назад
@@RetroTechBytes CPU Intel Celeron 2GHZ socket 775. 2x256mb Samsung DDR 2 Pc3200 333mhz, 3dfx Voodoo 4 4500 32mb Graphics card, 32gb SSD, Opl3 Sound card.
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