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@@getty6974 agreed. Although I'm happy with my FTR as a first bike. I will own an adventure bike in the future. The FTR was simply the largest sporty cruiser that had the essential ingredients. I've been eyeing the superduke adventure and Multistrada.
@@MyFatherLoves Ayo, I'm from S.A planning on going to Austin to get my first bike. I'm planning on upgrading to a ftr rally down the line. How would you say the ftr is treating you?
@@Killer12340000 hey man! I loved it. The only reason why I got rid of it was for comfort and the Harley dealer was willing to give me a ton for it. I now pleasantly ride a bagger as my daily.
@@Killer12340000 I ride the heck outta my '19 FTR. It does a lotta things really well. I put Pirelli Angel GT IIs on it and it's a different machine. She hugs the rode now. I've seen ppl drop knees on Continental Road Attacks and my Pirelli GTs but I don't have the balls to drop a knee on her quite yet. Gotta get some frame sliders first. 😅 Had to replace sprockets, chain, rear brake, and rear tire at 5,000 miles. I wasn't doing proper chain maintenance and was riding her the way she was meant to be rode so I fucked my rear sprocket. I will say, comfort wasn't a high priority in her design. She's AWESOME up to an hour in the saddle. Any more than an hour and your butt is gonna start arguing loudly with you, especially if you're a heavyweight, like me. But honestly, I doubt you'd find a more capable go anywhere, do anything really well bike as good as the FTR. Also, first and best upgrades I did were tank bag, messenger bag, and tail rack. Next is a custom seat for my big ass.
Yammie, you messed up with a S vs a Carbon model. Carbon models come with Ohlins forks and piggyback rear shock. Other than than that, it adds some Carbon goodies and it gets a production number on each unit from the factory.
You can start on any bike you want, this is america, odds are the first ride would scare you so much you’d probably respect it more than if you worked up to it.
As a new rider, the mere thought of riding this bike terrifies me. My MT-07 is already more than enough for me (I'm very very glad I didn't get a bigger bike as my first).
@@pleasedontwatchthese9593 I do understand that, and in fact the power isn't what scares me, it's the tires, the twitchy (at least compared to my bike) throttle, and the big brakes. I could probably ride a Hayabusa (briefly) easily, but a MT-10 is not something I would even think of attempting. Yes, the MT-07 is fantastic, especially with the Leo exhaust that mine has :D
Give it a year or two and that'll fade. The 07 is IMO all the motorcycle any street rider needs. Its an awesome machine that you could enjoy the rest of your motorcycling career. Punchy and playful. That said I think Yam made the FTR sound scarier than it is. IMO, if you're not trying to find the limits of cornering grip, the FTR is actually more approachable than the MT09. Sure the tires are trash and its heavier, but the brakes have more feel and the throttle/suspension/chassis are all better. Get comfortable with what you've got and when you're ready start trying any bike you get a chance to swing a leg over.
...it doesn't need to compete with anything else on the market. It has two wheels and a throttle and (aside from a beginner....) you'll have a ball, because it's a motorcycle.
I have a buddy that got this as his 1st bike. Rode it for about 10mnths then got a challenger dark horse. Hell my 1st bike was a 109 boulevard then i went out and got a indian bobber 60. so beginner bike or not just respect it and itll take care of ya.
@@yammienoob for most people yea. I just really don’t like how a lot of youtubers try and push the 250 life and what not then upgrade later. Most people do not have that kind of money and we all know people think they out grow their bikes when in reality they are still beginners. I know im still a beginner but im not afraid to hop on my 109 and scrape pegs but everyone isn’t like that.
Only the 2019 is the real race replica. 2020 is called carbon. Indian litterly categorized it in the name of the bike. FTR "Flat Track Racer". I have a 2019 race replica. I take it offroad DAILY and it handles and slides well enough to have a load of fun. If youre not planning on going offroad from time to time. Dont look into this bike as a naked sport bike. (Unless you get the ftr with the 17" tires wich defeats the whole purpose of the flat track style)
Hey @Yammie, Im close to getting my first bike and I was looking at the FTR because it fits my height, 6'5", better but after this I worry I might to green for it. Am I correct in that assumption?
hey Harley shill correct me if I'm wrong but! just two years you were not being so nice about Indian praising Harley to the heavens Hayabusa boy! I remember commenting what are they paying you off have you lost your mind? Anyway everybody knew then and knows now Indian is superior to the old tractor motor maker. Yes all great motorcycles are "twist this at your own risk"
How about the FTR is just the FTR. Not everything needs to be in a category. That bike just is. More bikes just need to be what they are, screw categories and people's need to put things in boxes. Some things just are what they are. Take it or leave it.
i'd say he completely missed the mark on what riders would be crossshopping: 1200 monster S, R-nine T, thruxton R/S and for the budget minded a xsr900 or kawa900rs (the only one in the video). Power-to-weight ratio is not really the factor as much as the style and riding experience. Modern tech, retro styling, great sounds and gobs of torque. Farily simple recipe really, and with the '22 model the FTR jumps to the top of the list.
Well said if it makes someone happy job done I have a sportster that this channel says is a rubbish why because you don’t like it. I love the bike makes me smile all the time. I’m not a sports bike fan don’t mean there crap.
Yes! It is the bike that many have been looking for. No other company got off their stereotype arse to build the sort machine that is finally available. Buell tried but it had to be so off centre even HD tired of it.
The ftr is my first bike and I absolutely love it 💪. Such a unique bike, I can't imagine riding anything else honestly. Don't want a cruiser or crotch rocket, the muscle bike with comfortable stance is next level. Already added a full exhaust and tune and it truly feels like an old school muscle car into a bike. What a beauty.
@@mostlyjovial6177 been great so far, 800 miles in and first service done. I wear all the gear including an airbag vest and don't ride like an asshole.
@@stancherlyric doing great! The weather lately has been awful but I've been getting out when I can, just over 1k miles. The FTR can be a monster if you want it to be but like any other bike if you ride with common sense you'll be just fine. It's a very predictable bike especially after the tune. Stop light to stop light is a blast and a few pulls on the interstate gets a big smile on my face, it accelerates fast as hell but . I have a wife and kids so I can't be stupid on the thing. Thanks for checking in on me haha, be safe out there bro.
The ftr is really really fast. It’s also got a hell of a lot of torque at low rpm and requires a steady hand. A whiskey throttle would definitely not end well. I wouldn’t suggest it if you’re that new. I rode a demo for like ten minutes and wanted to see what it would do. My everyday is a 79 Cb750k making about 85hp and this thing had me puckered lol. It feels like you’re hanging out over the front of the bike and it pulls like mad right from a stop. Ergos are pretty aggressive imo; I couldn’t spend much time on one. You MIGHT be alright unless you turn the traction control off. Demo riders were instructed not to for any reason. Many riders have looped them before leaving the parking lot. But with a 1200 twin the low end torque is high and the throttle touchy.
Even though I'm running the danger of getting stoned by hordes of cruiser lovin' crowds, I'm gonna say this, FTR1200 is the best American Ducabike (and that's a compliment). Good job Indian!
Yeah he has to keep in mind most of us don't get to ride a billion different motorcycles. I know he's aware of it, but like 99% of us probably aren't gonna notice. I'm just happy to have something American and sporty on the market since Buell went away.
Wish they would make a 750or 900 road version. I test rode the 1200 it was great but frustrating. I couldn't use the power anywhere, took some of the fun away. Like having a hot girlfriend who your not allowed to f*ck.
I 100% plan to off-road my FTR. I’ve been looking at wheel setups very intently with the intent to hit some trails. Probably just going to go with some 80/20 or 70/30 tires for now as the DT3-Rs really do suck. They’re good for hooning and that’s about it. The rear is about ready to go as well at 4100 miles. However, the bike is more than capable with its clearance and 5.9” of travel. No, it’s not some long travel suspension like a true dual sport or ADV bike with 9-12” of travel, but a competent rider can make it work for sure.
I have noticed that a few racers in the flat track pictures have the number upside down on their bike, even in the old pictures. Does it mean something? A google search didn't reveal anything.
I test drove this bike and the 22 carbon with 22s that I ended up buying. Even for intermediate riders, the vastly improved handling on the 22 was the way to go. I could not disagree more that it looses character as a result.
FTR is my dream bike. I rode two strokes my whole young life. While I wish they made a 650 version, I’m ready for this bad boy. Also why is your voice so cracked lol
Nice.. I have a 2019 ftr base model. I agree with your synopsis.. I like the ftr its fun and keeps you on your toes riding it quickly .. It feels playfull like a super motard untill you start riding it quickly and its weight and wheel base reminds you of its limitations.. But if your not trying to compare times or against others then on It's own it is a joy to have a blast on. Ps i swapped out the tyres to avon trailrider to keep the off road look but nice on road profiles for lean angles , a big improvement ( Dunlop dt3 r are bit dangerous in my opinion , but also fun trying spin them up out of corners- its just 3 x they did when i wasnt trying , never has this happened on my other bikes (Over 30 years or riding,) with no real warning. So i got rid of them at 2700km). Conti and Pirelli make good tyres options too. Tkc70 may have been good with rear center solid tread. My leading edge of tread on the avons shows wear after 250km , i specifically bought them for softest in class compounds .. Always a trade off aye. The American muscle car analogy is perfect.. Strangely ive never been into them but until you try it you dont know what your missing.
I feel like it competes with a Harley XR1200R, styling is damn near the same for both bikes but specs of course aren’t… The FTR is kinda in its own league for now🤔
so the same looks for the 2022 vs the 2019 but a safer, more predictable ride ... thank god i bought a 2022 Carbon :P ps my first bike before the FTR was a kawasaki ninja 1000 SX ... i dont see a problem for beginners ... :D
@@twistofthethrottle it’s more fun to feel like your on rails and power out of a corner than pogoing and wobbling out, it just feels good. Like the meme of the guy going “aahhh” putting on aftershave. Or hitting the sweet spot on the bat in baseball. 17s feel good
@@monkmoto1887 I love the 19/18 combo. I plan to off-road my FTR and that would be awful to try on 17s. I definitely don't feel like I'm pogoing or wobbling, but I also don't corner like Rossi either. I'm sure for street ability the 17s are fun, but if I wanted a street-only oriented bike I'd have gotten another Monster (which the new one looks super enticing). That being said, the tires suck and I wouldn't mind the narrower handlebars.
It's still too soon for me to say, but I feel the FTR is the only substitute I've found that combines the essence of the XR1200 with somewhat the sound of the MT-01 while being at a manageable seat height and weight. But let's see where my research goes.
It’s a decent cruiser. I work at an Indian dealership and have rode more than my fair share. They are set up pretty short IMO. I’m 6 foot and my legs feel cramped. Also the bars make you lean pretty far forward( plus the dark horse model just blacks out the motorcycle, including the engine which is pretty cool)
@@David-fd6db I would say the Buell is a beast that wants to go, and go hard. The ftr feels more like an excited dog that can easily keep up if it wants to. I'd say you'd have to "push" the ftr a bit more in corners, but only a little bit. It kind of reminds me of a classic bmw-gs handling. When people say the Ftr is bad in corners I roll my eyes. The one thing I don't like about the ftr is I burnt my right boot on the exhaust, but that might be my big feet. Its right next to the brake lever. Feels like it could use some protection. The exhaust is also very hot on the thighs, but the buell used to lick my thighs as well, so... :) I liked working on the Ftr a lot more as well, but that might just be because it was new. maintenance wise. Ow, and also the Ftr has this electronic throttle (instead of cable), so the response is a little weird that might need some focus at first. Also, if your ftr throttle does not respond like it used to: its worth trying the reset procedure (ask at a dealership; they''ll show you). The one thing I'd change is some luggage racks or something, but Indian does not make it very easy (Unless you have money aplenty). So a long trip might not be great. 8/10 would buy if I had the money
@@andypants1000 I have a ktm 390 duke, but she sat in the Japanese weather for 2 years while I was sick stateside. I got back in May, but she's trashed pretty bad, going to need a lot of work, and ktms are pricey maintenence, so I'm getting rid of her.
@@shellbackbeau7021 dont blame you. Yeah I live in hokkaido and even a single winter outside, even under cover, and the thing is a pile of garbage. Thankfully I have a garage for it. Just wish the wife was a little more into letting me fuck off on trips lol
