Why I love boats: 1) no property tax. With a boat you actually own it. It's actually yours. A house is never really yours. You pay property tax and your land is zoned. Also if you find valuable natural resources on your land if your home is zoned as residential the resources aren't yours. 2) with a sail boat you can travel the entire planet earth for the price of vessel maintenance and food. That means for about 16000 a year you can go any were on planet earth for the rest of your life.
You could try going down to the marina and seeing if anyone needs deck hands. Build hands on experience at no cost, or possibly even getting paid for it. Make connections with people, and get put to work on things that you might never encounter in a class. I think that might be one of the best ways to see if you'll actually enjoy sailing.
Excellent advice. A couple of tips: learn to sail before you buy, and better yet make live-abord class, nothing better than “living” the class. Now you know how to sail, prepare food, sleep etc charter a boat (rent) one for weekend and go sailing ! Join a club and do ALL the courses they offer from electric trouble shooting to engine basics. Watch this video more than once, trust me on this part! Boat ownership is one of two things: superb or nightmare, heeding this YT will ensure it’s the former, not the latter!
Thank you for the advice! I do plan on learning everything I can before buying one. Obviously, it's a great deal of work. However if you maintain it and learn how too, I believe it's no different than having a house. Don't let things go before you repair them and stay on top of it. I believe it can be a beautiful life.
Great channel, brother. I'm just starting to dream about getting a boat (signed up for some lessons, too). Very helpful, realistic, and inspirational content!
Brilliant Josh. Articulate and straight talking. As someone who sailed at school, has had a partially adventurous life and now weighing up dreams of owning a boat, this is exactly the primary guidance I need.
There are also a ton of sailing folk who want to partner on a boat and split the times the shared owners sail and it’s a great way to afford a boat you can’t afford on your own!
I really love your approach and content! I bought my first boat after taking lessons and watching your content. I live your analytical, straight forward commentary.
Wow how can anyone afford to boat in the US? I have a 28fot Albin motorsailer in Sweden and it cost 350$ for the dockspace the whole summer season, and 45$ to store it on land over the winter. And that includes using the showers, restrooms and kitchen in a beautiful marina.
You're awesome Josh! Thanks for the checklist...we're just planning to move to Spain. Neither my girlfriend or I know too much about sailing, but both of us are really drawn to the lifestyle an opportunities...so currently just binging on boat/sailing content and knowledge, because we plan to get the license and buy a boat once we're there. Lot to learn, but your channel helps a ton, so thank you! :)
I bought my first boat in Ireland. Josh what you say is so correct. It needed work but I loved the covid hobby. Best thing I did. Loved your over view :) Thank you
I needed this more than ever since tomorrow I'm going to check out a 1984 MacGregor 26 from a cousin. I had no idea what to check on. Thank you for the printable checklist. We will see how it goes tomorrow!!!!
Definitely branch out into other topics! Just make sure to organize them in appropriate playlists so it's easy to access all your content & come back to it later. Awesome video, by the way!
I live in lane locked Oklahoma. I traded some work for a 1967 22 O’Day. I’m in the midst of cleaning her up to have her lake worthy by spring. It’s been a journey and a nice escape so far. What I really want is an ocean going sailboat that I can take my wife to Tahiti in. Live on it. Travel on it. See the world!
Well done!! Just 1 ad.. in my experience its important to take the length of a Bowsprit pulpit into account when it comes to storage charges. I have a 1982 Island Trader 37/38" Ketch Rig... it has a 12ft beam and a Bowsprit that takes it to 42.5ft when the marina is estimating winter storage fees. 42.5ft x 12ft x $/SqFt storage fee. ... I love my boat and the Bowsprit but yeah that adds a bit more to my winter storage fees.. Keep the videos coming!!! Its a great idea to diversify your content!!! 👌👍
I agree with every single word. Very well done and presented. If you are a novice to boats you would be well advised to watch and take heed - of EVERY word of this.
Thanks Josh , I printed your check list, I'm a couple of years out, kids will be on there own soon, plan on a 30-35 boat for a year or two then move onto a Mack daddy and cruse the seven seas : ) Lived on others sailboats as a young man as crew, mate,, do boy .
Want to but a yacht? Hell yes!! Nearly bought a project at the end of last year but it was miles away and with lockdown wouldn't have been able to get down to it. Focussed on a type now, just waiting for the right one! Blaming you (among a few others) at this point!! Great video by the way! Cheers! PS we need a tour of the new boat. Looks a lovely classic!
Nice general info. It would be nice to make a video about more detailed price ranges for different repairs like diesel engines, rudders, deck, sails, anchors, etc. Edit: different electronics.
Amazing amount of tips. For some, tough reality check that can cost a lot of money. Greatly appreciated is your knowledge and wisdom. My dream is getting further and further away... Oh well. Be happy for what you have! Cheers everyone and good luck with your search. And if you have room in your boat... please invite me over. lol.
Hey man. Your videos are always excellent, informative well put together, edited, b roll, all of it. My videos are very rough around the edges in comparison. I'm a sailboat owner as well, watch alot of your stuff and I appreciate all the hard work that goes into it. Actually I learned to sail watching your video, and I refer people wanting to learn to it all the time.
Hey mate.. your how to sail vid brought me here.. a cracking vid and something people obviously need. Another great video here and who doesnt dream about sailing into the yonder. Keen to follow your adventures as an ex navy (australian) man myself.
I really like the episodes you have been making . First time I came across your RU-vid posting was “learn how to sail” , at that time I just enrolled to a sailing school in Bay Area and your posting was very helpful . I was wondering if you can also include other expenses such as insurance , taxes any registration fees , bottom cleaning ( how often) and painting . Thank you Aslan
Thanks for the comment. I've found insurance is pretty cheap. Well, depending on the value of the boat, but my insurance is a couple hundred $$ per year. (If you plan to go out of the country to a hurricane zone insurance is outrageous though.) Bottom cleaning: I usually do myself but when water is super cold in winter I pay a guy to do it which costs $50 every other month (some people do it every month). Bottom paint is a whole different animal. I've heard it can cost $3000 to $5000 for the marina to do once every 2 to 3 years (California prices, maybe cheaper other places, not sure). Let me know if any other questions. Enjoy the SF Bay. Beautiful place.
I found a sailboat online that had a survey posted in online add, I printed it out it was 14 pages long very thorough and helpful. I didn't buy boat but I have that survey as a guideline to accompany my own checklist
A great video wish we would have seen it before we bought our first boat. There were many things you talked about we learned the hard way. I would add a bit about harbor requirements for older boats before you can even get a slip. You talked about size and purpose but not on rigging ( single hand capable vs old school.... up on the foredeck hanking on sails vs roller fullers) we went from cal 29 with Hanks and an outboard and no windless...... 2 an Ericson 35 cutter rigged Sloop set up for single handing with two rolling furlers on a bowsprit and a diesel inboard. Huge difference! a newbie might look at the two boats and think the second has too many gadgets when in actuality it's a much easier boat to handle. We just went from Dana Point to San Pedro stopping in Newport for a few days. hopefully will see you along the journey sometime so we can tell you in person how much we enjoy your videos. Thanks again I'd recommend the video to someone looking
Thank you so much!! I appreciate all your input!!! I am new to the boring world and just learning and you have helped incredibly! Things that I didn’t even think of like the docking fee like my RV storage fee. All the extras you completely had on it. I want to live on my boat and travel to the Caribbean. I had to Florida, and so I was thinking of getting a 31 foot but RV style 35 foot. Can you really help me hone in on the basis of what I need. I look forward to seeing the rest of your videos! Thank you so much.
I am Happy for you Josh. Very Nice classic boat. it will provide a much smoother ride and be more sea worthy over the previous Beneteau you had. Great choice.
I've been looking at the best of both worlds meaning, sailboat or motor yacht. I'm currently leaning towards motor yachts. A company developed a sail for motor vessels that will pull the boat faster than a sailboat, you have less draft, you don't have a lightning rod standing in the middle of your boat, getting from one place to the next is by far quicker, more square feet of living space because of the multi floor designs of motor yachts. Just weighing it out. Great videos
The reason sailboats have such a deep draft is because of their keel. It keeps them stable in rougher water and counteracts the force applied by the sail (prevents capsize). Just be aware of the stability issues
@@joannnock4707 I don't remember off hand. But you can look at motor yacht sails on the internet and with your research you will definitely be impressed. 👍👍✌️
@@richardgooding498 big difference would be what you're spending on fuel especially with the prices now. Sailboats use mainly free energy in the wind. Depends on what you want to do with your boat and where you want to take her.
Hi im Troy from nsw Australia . There's very real issues MY first boat was small .All of a sudden I had all these issues .Know I'm looking at a bigger yacht I did not think of a servay Yes and a second look For me this is important. THE GUY WAS IN A HURRY SO I Didn't have Time to look. So I really thank you because I will ask for a second look plus some one who knows about sails as well the motor I got the filling that this person who was selling this boat was not sure but just positive about the things that I asked him.I really thank you for getting me thinking
The problem with yards, is that many of he boats have been torn apart by the owner that was doing their own work. I call it “The land of broken dreams”. One thing that people should always consider is the age of the motor. If you are looking at a 30+ year old boat, and it’s the original diesel motor you should always consider it an anchor regardless of what the owner says about maintenance. Realistically, the motor will need to be replaced within a year. That will cost a minimum of 15 -20k to replace an inboard diesel. You never want to insult the owner, but knowing hey are paying $300 a month makes it desirable for them to offload the boat. We boat our 27’ cascade for $4200. It was in need of TLC, but the bones were great. I suspect we have invested another 20k into the boat to get it where we want it to be. This means new sails, running rigging, paint, non skid and repower in with electric motor. Part of the reason we spent so much was because we went with LifePo4 batteries which were about 7k alone. This does not include the trailer we bought to haul the boat home so we could do all the work ourselves. That was another 4K, though I know we can get that for the trailer if we sell it. If we sold our boat tomorrow we could easily get 8k for it without the Lifepo batteries. I would sell them separately.
Excellent and has again informed me as well as inspired. Great inserts! I'm just south of you in Dana Point and if I ever find you up in NPort I'll owe you more than a beer or two for all that you've done for me. Sailing now with a club for the last year and hope to buy in the next few years. Looking to build my skills over next 5 years then head west to deep water with the family.
@@JoshPostVlogs just say when. I've been meaning to come up there to rent some outriggers. I have no skill but could help you on some boat projects. gwjohnson38@hotmail.com
Another thing you want to consider is the cost of going to physically look at boats and the cost of moving a boat from where you buy it to where you plan to keep it. Driving 500 miles to look at a boat costs money (gas, lodging, meals, etc.) that adds up if you make multiple trips. If you are looking at cheaper boats, a few longer "looking" trips can quickly add up to a significant fraction of the cost of the boat. Then there is moving the boat. If the boat is small enough to trailer and has a trailer, you can simply tow it home IF you have a suitable tow vehicle. A bigger boat or a boat without a trailer can be moved by a boat hauler, but the cost will come to thousands of dollars particularly if the boat is wider than 8.5 feet. Sailing the boat home can be iffy if the condition of the boat is questionable,r your skills are a bit limited, or you don't have the time to sail the boat 500 miles. Don't forget weather. That may mean that you will have to spend some time repairing/outfitting the boat before moving it (more $$$$), or it may mean that you have to hire a professional delivery skipper.
Josh, Great video and you have really improved the quality of them as well. I live in Huntington Beach and have had quite a sailing experience in the past. Would really love to meet you some time. Do you belong to the VFW which is Very close to where you have your boat moored? Keep making the good videos. Gene Carrothers
Thank you! I belong to the American Legion in Newport although I haven’t done much there since the pandemic but hope to get more involved. Would be great to meet you.
@@JoshPostVlogs Ya, let's meet up at the Legion sometime and I'll buy you dinner and drinks. Don't know if you saw my ABEC but thought a Navy Avation guy like you might recognize the job and rank. Retired USNR LOL You can contact me @ gcarrother@aol.com
Thank you for a great video and such informative information. Im looking into a change of lifestyle and move to Maryland and live aboard a sailboat. From what I've researched, MD has great marinas at affordable prices. Its a dream i have always wanted to make happen. Im looking at sailboats between 27-30 footers, with a couple of models im interested in, such as Catalina, Hunter, or Pearson. I've never owned a boat before, therefore will be my first purchase. Will be using it to live on and local or weekend sailing trips. But mostly stay around Maryland shores. Im so ready to minimalize my life. Thanks, once again for the awesome advice.
Sounds great. What’s your budget. I was looking at Facebook Marketplace around Maryland. Looks like several good options. Probably find something good under $20k or cheaper. Might even consider 32ft or 33ft for a bit more room if planning to live on it.
One challenging topic I struggled with is boost insurance, specifically if you live in the hurricane belt. A video sound that would be of enormous benefit to many
Years of insurance experience here. That’s correct. It’s much more expensive to insure a boat on the gulf coast than, say the west coast or an inland lake. Because there are no hurricanes there. Most carriers require a survey for anything over 10 years old. The surveyor also needs to be NAMS or SAMS certified
Marinas generally have minimum liability requirements. Generally 300k, but some are 500k. Need to check with them to confirm as that will affect your premium. Sailboats are often more expensive to insure than power boats because most people can’t put it on a trailer and move it somewhere safe due to the size. Having a trailer can do wonders for your premium.
I wish I had seen this video before I purchased my 1st boat. Everything works but I should have gone for more amenities/RV style boat. My second boat will be a little more thought out. Atleast i learned alot on it.
Question on storing the boat! I'd love to buy one soon, but worried I won't find a slip for the boat since it's all waitlists. Problem is, most marinas in my area won't let you get added into the waitlist unless you have the boat already (they ask for all the insurance details, etc...) How do you suggest going about finding a marina without already having the boat? As you said, don't want to buy one and not have a spot for it!
Eyeing a CSY 37. Understand it is Solid fiberglass ( no balsa or fill), overbuilt, heavy and slow. It remains terribly attractive as a first boat capable of sailing the globe. Please disabuse of this fatal attraction and hit me with the negatives my romance obscures. Thank you!
#1 is enough to cancel everything else out. I had a Catalina 25 that I kept on a mooring ball. I had a kayak to get out there. the field was completely unprotected it was about 1/4 mile out and I would be exhausted when I got there. $483 / month. Single handing off and on that ball was the stuff of nightmares because all the boats were packed in. But it was only 3 miles from the house. I got an actual slip 1hr away for $417/month. much better. Then I downsized to a 21ft boat I keep on a trailer at the marina: $268. But this marina is bare bones just a ramp, restroom, and tons of mosquitos. Maybe I'll bring it to the house and save money but then I have to deal with the hoards at the public ramp!
I want to sail for that fact of sailing and I want to live on a ship as well. Though I do want to buy land that has a lake with a river to the ocean, so it is cheaper then waterfront property, but I can still build a dock myself. This would probably be quite expensive though Edit: I also want to be able to sail trans-pacific trips
I found a 36’ boat for $5k. I’m only 18 but I don’t want to give up that offer and use the boat as my apartment lol. I’m from New York so you can see where I’m coming from