I don't mind " clipped together. " (1) I haven't seen all of it before. (2) I know how to skip parts that don't interest me. So good job. Clipped together is better than nothing at all. Thanks. Not only that but listening to some of Dr. Peterson's ideas again gives me the chance to rethink my own cognitive structures. Something i don't find easy to do.
Most important takeway from JP is when he mentions that religion & its books are not facts but structures from where “ truth” needs to be extracted. In the east the teaching is just that. Scriptures are frameworks which are to be taken to identify processes to extract the “ relevant” truth or solution for “ you” which in itself evolve with every generation. The structure remains as a forever guide.
This was a courageous podcast for both of these guys. Tom for risking having the JP-lightning rod on his show, and JP for patiently swinging on issue after issue, reconstructing age-old thinking column stone by column stone so that they can be repackaged by Tom, mostly with care & support, for the audience. The message that, ‘away from evil…is a good enough place to start’ is super pertinent so close on the heels of the assassination attempt.
I'm glad you made this video, I can recall when I was homeless and faced with many things in Life until $75,000 biweekly began rolling in and my Life went from A homeless nobody to a different person with good things to offer!!!!!❤️
Christina Ann Tucker is to be thanked. I got my self my dream house 🏠 just last weekend, My journey with her started after my best friend came back from New York and saw me suffering in dept then told me about her and how to change my life through her. Christina A. Tucker is the kind of person one needs in his or her life!
Re-uploading videos is a choice, I personally wouldn't but its whatever, but at least label them... Tom does this on spotify too. I hope Tom finds more insight because I'm tired of how out of touch he is. Its been a good ride, but I don't think he's humble enough to change his ways. God bless everyone.
He reuploaded it so more people would watch it since it’s relevant at helping people understand the existential issues facing our country in light of the trump assassibation attempt. He thinks it’s something that people need to see who haven’t
When all forms of external authority have become propagandized and discredited, and not something we can trust in, we will all have nowhere else to go, but within, and that is where we will find each other again. JP, we are not going back!
When we trust and love ourself enough to realize that we are each our own way, our own truth, and none of us gets back to our Higher Power except through ourself. This is what Jesus came to bring, JP! No more external authority telling us what to think, feel and do. The kingdom of heaven is inside of us. Please get back on your own side of the street clean your own act up. Take the log out of your own eye before you take the speck out of your brother sisters.
I understand Dr.P - I had a period in my life where I avidly studied Jung -the collected works -21 volumes- never finished, but I read enough to see Jung coming thru -one of my favorite Jungian quotes is, and I know it’s polemical, “Christianity is the last hope for mankind”-Jesus is king
Tom Bilyou , i like your utility fetish and respect your productivity and work mentality. But knowing the massive wealth and monetaire fruits it has been getting and giving you its still acceptable to sit through all your advertisement and commercials on the.podcast . Personally think its a bit much but ok. BUT also reposting old stuff with titles that suggest its new or represent a idea its actually new relevant stuff for and from today current real time gets lower than i expected from you. Your more than a bright smart guy and this makes me wonder if you have any doubts about posting this type of content in the way and form we getting it. Or dont u have much of a good look at the balance of making money and what it takes to make it??
Adblocker. Cant believe people still live without it. There is absoloutly no need for anyone to watch all the crap they want to sell you that you definitely do not need
@@attaboy8422yeah no kidding. For a group of challenge fighting entrepreneurs, so many people are stuck on the ad thing. Get RU-vid premium and wala, all ads gone. Plus you can click out of the RU-vid app and the video feed won’t stop playing. SO MANY BENEFITS. You can add the next video you wanna watch to the queue…Side note; yall do know that the heavy ads aren’t just on this podcast right?
@@karenschooley4204 hey m8 did u do your homework propperly? Point one is that its not priced globally equal. I for example in euros pay significantly more for the same premium package. 2nd point is one that can be a more argued idea i bring forward but it goes as follows: When i started my public main channel called Yokozunastyle like 12 years ago or so it was making me money. Got monetisation on certain vidz and the content where i did not activate it they would be shown free of advertising. I know times change and they need to make money. But now all content with or without being monetised is subject to advertising that doesnt generate the creator anything if its a add by yt itself. Most importantly beyond those facts i fell victim of service term b.s that cut me off from generating any money while my content and subs compare to back than multiplied many times over. And its constructed in a way that the requirements pretty much exclude me from ever making any profit of my content ever again with the progress to this point at average staying roughly unchanged. So combine those 2 factors with being in a country that is likely top 10 highest prices for going premium its more of a principle thing to not get premium. Even if it is super frustrating at some channels like this one from Tom. And knowing he pushes the adds all the while being a billionair doesnt help me get to peace with the whole situation hehehe. Hope you can understand where im comming from and put yourself in my position to have a bit of understanding regarding my thoughtprocess in this ;)
Spoken like a true Jungian- Doctor Petersen speaks fire- religion can’t be talked about like an equation, one doesn’t “believe” or “disbelieve- one feels God and has faith to understand that feeling
i gotta agree these podcasts have already turned into the same shit as the so call legacy media: we all agree that the legacy media only spreads fears, but these fellas only talk about the fear spreaded by the legacy ones. same shit different vessel
@@tyrawatt4963 Normal people care about what they can change, manipulated by TV are constantly worried about things they cannot control. Its already safe and good o our planet and if you complain you simply cannot see how many possibilities we have nowadays compared to 25 years ago, or even 10 years ago
bro youre out of your mind. Yes we live in the most comfortable times, that is true by Steven Pinker's definition, and yours. BUT, on an existential level, both country and world have never been in more impending peril. Listen to Daniel Schmactenburger on this issue, you'll shit your pants.
@@tyrawatt4963Its al about perspective, we have a lot of cruelty and absurds but whats the point of caring about this if we cannot do anything about this? Always look at the bright side of life. There hundreds of millions of people starving or surviving real terror as in Palestine. If people onlin complain because they are worried about AI they are simply bored and look for things to complain about and remain in victim mentality that world is fucked and people are idiots but as I said its all about perspective , you can focus your mind on only one thing at time, either on possibilities or dangers
Not believing in God isn't the end all be all. I'm a buddhist, if you look into it we share 95% of the same ideals. We just look inward toward enlightenment, while christians look outward. I wouldn't dare declare either one correct. (To the buddhists out there, I apologize for being so mouthy. I feel like this is Right speech though...)
How are you interviewing my two most favorite people on the Internet who give me the most knowledge for life and they both have worked. They are culmination of what I want to be Jordan Peterson and Andrew Bustamonte. How do you get Jordan Peterson on there now I am jelly.
I don't understand the problem with reuploads. Not everyone has registered the video at that particular time. This gives new viewers in particular the opportunity to discover older and still relevant videos. Many videos, especially those like this, often become even more relevant than at the time of publication. I often watch the videos in a different way with a time gap and can pick up new things. You also read good books several times. Anyone who is no longer interested doesn't need to watch the video again. The only thing to criticize is that you actually give the impression that the video is new. A short addition "Reupload" would be helpful.
Wtf?! People are worried about it being a reupload... American democracy almost went to sh*t a few hours ago... Some people are clearly detached from reality! Unbelievable! What Peterson talks here is absolutely worthy of being revisited and deeply understood.
@@mitch758It's literally in the video's description: "in this mashup of Impact Theory..." It's not Tom's fault people are too lazy to read and too eager to point fingers...
THANK YOU for this 'old' podcast!!!! I feel 'lucky' and/or 'blessed' (however one needs to accept goodness) to hear two brilliant brains and hearts sharing and hashing out their great ideas!!!
Sad because only a personal relationship with God Can separate us from philosophy to truth and knowledge. We cannot afford to philosize our time away. Time is very short. Look up and beg God to make friends with you now not later. 🎉
This guy loves projecting his internal struggles onto others. Such a conflicted man that wants rewards for his pain. Be vulnerable. Be humble. Be human. Love and let love.
Finally someone with some knowledge about human nature and psychology. I always felt something wrong with this guy. If he is not crying, he on in the verge to cry and everything turns dramatic with him. He is less emotionnaly balanced than a woman.
Understand that he was a clinical psychologist for many year hearing terrible conflicts of people. He is skewed a bit to negative but that, plus his own life experience, is the reason. But, we all face dark moments in our lives. Then, what he is saying can be very helpful.
I keep Faith in Jesus even as I constantly struggle to provide groceries and basic necessities for my children both of my sons are special needs taking care of them can be overwhelming at times but I seek and find comfort in our Lord Jesus. God has carried me through so far. Faith is all we need. All things are possible with Our HEAVENLY FATHER.❤️💕❤️
In the beginning of this video the explanation and wrestling that follows throughout are the reasons that I got baptised 3 weeks ago. I am free. Love your work @tombilyeu
I never seen him cut someone off and talk over someone as much as he does in this podcast. deffff one of my biggest pet peeves, not to mention very disrespectful
@@NoBody-qo9rh Nothing he said was "wandering". It's not that hard to follow what he is saying. Tom has good insight too and he was able to follow along, but he sometimes simplifies Jordan Peterson whole point and negates the meaning.
He simply doesn't want to hear it. It is disrespectful and made me scream many times. People like him never want to surrender to religion because they view themselves as gods the ego shows everytime he trys to simplify the idea of God. No human other than Jesus could completely comprehend God. I usually don't care if someone is secular. But if you choose to have a conversation about faith. Atleast try to grasp thst you can't understand it yourself. There is more than enough proof thst Jesus existed and more proof being found in isreal still to thing day. Why bother having the conversation if your not open to understanding a fraction of it. Quit telling people to lean on themselves. Your leading people down a path to hell. That's your choice. God bless.
"Slow down take tiiiiiime and seeeeee the foreest foorrr the leaves. I know that iiiiiii should praaactice what I preeeeeeaaaaach." *The Dear Hunter - The Canopy* Such a fantastic band in every way.
This sounds like an old episode reuploaded. I dont mind re-uploads, my issue is when there is no mention about it in the description or anywhere and I am left guessing on my own about it !!!
Dr Jordan Peterson. How you currently assist with the issue of understanding the Bible. The way forward is to allow people to get away from their television screens and listen to the message of Christ and other people who have a different opinion about what is happening in the world. That is not the narrative of mainstream media
Thank you for "refining" Dr. Peterson's ... expressions of ideas. Sometimes two intellectuals, two deep articulate thinkers, enhance one another. You sir are the perfect "refiner" forcing Jordan to re- express, re- articulate his words in such a way that makes his communication understandable. Not everyone the good doctor speaks with can do that. You can. Respectfully and precisely. I'm convinced that in order to understand Jordan well, we must hear him say the same things many many different ways in order to grasp his thought and insight. Thanks you, sir.
And Einstein said, “We cannot solve a problem out of the same consciousness that created it.” Therefore, my allegiance is to Love and not to fear and competition and dominance. JP, clearly just don’t know the difference between the two. Stop preaching and start going inside. I wish you the best of luck.
Belief....is another tools of $atan to deceit....manipulate your mind to doubt the existence GOD....live in TRUTH is your only salvation TRUTH will set you free and protect you the rest of your life
This is a very very profound discussion. The discourse brings out the best of both of their approaches to life. Great job Tom and Jordan. You got very close to something extremely meaningful for me...
And just a little more feedback, JP. When you speak about the evil in the world, you seriously become it. Literally. You have this distain and contempt and seething in your voice. It’s not a good look. So many of us choose joy and not fear. You know why? Because we’ve actually experience it while all you do is talk about it. I believe in the evolution of consciousness. each one of us is our own spiritual authority. Our higher power lives inside of us and we will find each other there. We need to move forward building a society founded on love. When we are empowered in this way, the authority won’t be able to pull the wool over our eyes or conquer us. I wish, JP, that you can become the love that you say you want to see in the world.❤
So funny with that adage, “if your friends jumped off a bridge, would you do it too”? I taught kindergarten and elementary school for 20 years and that was always what I said when they tried blaming their friend for “making them do it.” and you know what, they always stopped, and they appreciated that it was their choice and they thought about it and they were not gonna jump off a bridge and kill themselves even if their friends did it. Maybe if it was what their parents told them to do? That’s a lot trickier.
"Do you believe what happened in Auschwitz was wrong"? "Yes" Then you believe in God. "Do you believe what is happening in Gaza is wrong?" "Yes" "Then you don't believe in God" JP's version of God.
16:41 *perceived* Yes. This is key. Perception is more fundamental in regard to knowledge or articulable knowledge. This is mainly why I like Polanyi and moreso Owen Barfield’s Saving the Appearances.
My Jesus says to me, “if you could see what I see, you would never have another critical thought about yourself. This planet is gangster and you’re a warrioress.”✨🌎💃🏽💯🔥🌈✨
TRUTH......is your manual to navigate your path.....towards in the right direction and to have a meaningful life......if you got lost........don't let "BELIEF" define you
11:21 The stories were burned into our memory, because their proliferation coincided with the invention of the PRINTING PRESS, the spread of literacy, and the use of the of the Bible as the way to spread it. It is not because the stories are so compelling more than other stories. Just read some other stories from around the world and they're so much more interesting and filled with life and energy.
"Your statement moved me, but I don't believe in God. How can I reconcile that?" A: Does your materialist worldview allow for the possibility of being wrong?
I love Jordan Peterson, like I honestly believe he's one of the great minds of our time, but man he interrupted poor Tom so much it was the first time I really felt anything negatively towards Jordan lol. Either way, Tom needs commended for his patience and humbleness.
Aa much as Jordan basically interrupts each of Tom’s sentences, it’s better than the slow robotic “first principle” sentences that can nearly put me asleep if I am listening late at night. I much prefer an “alive” conversation. Here’s to choosing “goodness” and the light instead of choosing “evil”! One step closer to “God”. 🙏🙏🙏 Keep on wrestling…
I don’t think JP is a good guest for your show🤷🏽It’s good to face what we’re dealing with. I appreciate the ability to hear and consider their ‘ideas’. Yuck. Science is not spiritless or just utilitarian. He’s full of shit. We are NOT going back✌️
40:24 Seems like we as a group need to mold ourselves to someone who has spent the past 4000 years in a cave rather than fostering further adherence to the path of this group.
Aw God, I can't wait to comment on how this man touch my conscience.❤ If at least modern idiot can listen to him for two minutes the world would be a better place
Love listening to Jordan. Such a brilliant mind. I'd like to see Jordan and Sevan Bomar have a conversation. You guys need to check out Sevan if you haven't yet.
Sevan is the MAN. Happy to see other ppl mention his name. I’ve followed him for a decade now… none of it gets old. I would’ve loved to hear him and J.Maxwell to have a discussion
@@kpeezyforsheezy Wh0leness. What Sevan has been saying makes more sense to me than anything I've heard. There's others like Jordan Maxwell, Santos Bonacci, Alan Watts , Sadhguru, and a few others but Sevan goes really deep and really gets into the origins of things and really does a great job showing many layers .
Religion can be beautiful but it can also be weaponized and it was. Paradise was lost. Now the world is a paradise with evil controlling vast portions.
Jacob wrestled with God ,we wrestled with God between Gods wisdom and his own interpretation of who God is in Jacob’s mind , Jacob conceded and crossed over to the spiritual kingdom kingdom of God that is why the name change
A bit tiring that lately the podcasters interview spiritually sophisticated people being so far from it. And making statements, asking questions they are not able to really understand.
yall haven’t a clue what youre talking about😂 you are blatantly expressing negativity, your world view and fragile emotions always crumble when JBP speaks. its not an attack against you, its not lies, its not evil, its not directed at you, its only truth in his perspective . If truth pisses you off, and you can’t prove them wrong… you’re the problem. your soul is the only thing thats a total wreck. jus sayin lol.
A well facilitated conversation amongst diverse peoples will create an IQ far higher than the IQ of any individual in the group group. Well facilitated conversation amongst stagnant homogeneous thinkers will not create an IQ much higher than an individual in the room.
I don’t understand why Jordan is considered so special. He often repeats general statements that have been made many times before-there’s nothing particularly remarkable about them.
Since most thinkes today make up bullshut to feel special, the fact jordan uses some of the oldest and time-tested ideas of humanity makes him special.
@@loring5784 "At the 1:52:00 mark, no resistance to evil by force. I see the point he's making, but you are right I’m not familiar with all his work. From what I've heard in this interview so far, I haven’t encountered anything particularly new or groundbreaking."
@@LocalBooking New ground breaking ideas are better than time tested ideas. Well there were a lot of smart people that existed in the past and they managed to figure out a lot of things. Our present day knowledge is based on past knowledge and wisdom.
Yes, the Cosmos is a Personality and we humans are it’s children. We are all a family, but it’s not a patriarchal hierarchical cosmos. You are seriously the biggest narcissist ever if you think that the cosmos reflect your patriarchal hierarchy?
You create the reality you experience. Change your thinking, and your reality will change. Nothing, and I mean nothing comes into your reality that you don't allow. No one else is responsible for what you choose to create.
Why does he still try to justify a God that sends you to hell for working on weekends? How dishonest can someone be to strip him self of his morality to justify an iron age book devoid of any morality. As Julian said after he read the Bible..."I read. I understood. I rejected. "
God doesn't send you to hell for working on weekends. That is a jewish tradition. He recommends sabbath as a way to rest your soul. And a way to honor God by resting the one day like he did.
@@Anti-feminist87 What the hell are you talking about?🤣😂🤣 "Thou shalt keep sabbath the holy"... It is one of the 10 commandments. If you break any of them you go straight to hell... Do not pass go... Do not collect $200. Did you even read the bible? Romans 6:23 tells us that much. The Bible is very clear about it. Those who sin earn eternal punishment. New and old testaments say the same thing. (Hebrews 12:29, Exodus 33:20). But I admit I find it funny that God made a commandment for working on weekends and somehow forgot about some things things... Like slavery... And sexual assault... It just slipped his freaking mind....🤣😂😂
It's the propaganda they are pushing: China bad. Russia bad. Arabs bad. Muslim bad. US UK israel MURDERING THOUSANDS FOR 9 MONTHS STRAIGHT democratic countries fighting for our way of life. The lies are blatantly obvious now for those who are not 🐏🐑🐑
This is Genius …..Peterson is a awesome intriguing guest…am riveted by his supernatural consciousness insight and truthful intellect that is a value on how it is , how he represents himself is truly civilized and something too learn from be proud of and respect! Peterson is a righteous man, thank you and much respect too you and your loved ones…peace
Tom, What progress have you and/or Jordan made towards finding God since this was created? Jordan quotes a lot of scripture, but he still seems to miss the message about why Christ had to come, be crucified, and resurrected?
Where/when there is a self, 'the wrestling' happens ... Peterson's great inner dissonance with God comes that he wants to make his ego strong only defeated by Jesus, and others' egos strong by themselves but accepting that they must be defeated by the values that 'Jesus' imposed on Peterson ... Peterson is not surrendering to God as Jesus commanded, He is just acting as a PR agent about what He believes Jesus was ( The communion of Man & Logos, Realization of Truth in Mam, The Primal Archetype, The One above All, etc etc etc ) ... Jesus would likely laugh, perform a face-palm gesture, and innerly cry by observing others thinking about him that way ... very likely Jesus will tell those who think like Peterson thinks: 'I am just your brother as Our Father is the same in Heaven' ( The Father is The Logos, Jesus shares the Logos by his relationship with The Logos, Jesus melts with The Logos when/where He is in 'Heaven (In The Logos everything is One)' ) Then, Peterson's great inner dissonance is because he is not serving Jesus's mission ... just following Peterson's inner agenda ... bringing more Self to mankind ... becoming another Lucifer's Agent ... Good job, Jordie ... 🤙🤙🤘🤘
