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Soda siphon teardown. 

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Despite these things being a bit "retro" they are still available, and work really well for creating fresh soda water (or other liquids) as needed.
The principle of carbonating water to make it fizzy is simple. You agitate cold water under pressure in a carbon dioxide (CO2) atmosphere. The water absorbs the carbon dioxide and then liberates it gradually as streams of bubbles when the pressure is released.
The original soda siphon made the miracle of sparkling water at home possible. You filled the unit with cold water, injected a controlled portion of carbon dioxide from a steel capsule and then shook the unit to diffuse the CO2 into the water.
You can buy the original vintage units on eBay, but I'd recommend against that as the condition of their specialist seals and the integrity of the carbonating bottle will be unknown.
Fortunately they do still sell new units and packs of the cartridges they use.
This unit is branded Maison & White and came from a UK eBay outlet of the same name.
www.ebay.co.uk...
Note that the units are only intended for carbonating water. Other liquids may foam excessively, and some could even erode the aluminium bottle.
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@Alangetube
@Alangetube 4 года назад
BigClive talks with a light in his teeth and all I can hear is Sean Connery
@MusicalBox
@MusicalBox 4 года назад
I shee what you mean
@PuppetMaster8707
@PuppetMaster8707 4 года назад
OMG he really does I wanted to hear him say "shaken not stirred so badly" LOL
@CNKayutube
@CNKayutube 4 года назад
I'd rather see him show off an old school BB machine gun, perfect use of R12 cans, those bubbles are girly
@billssolarpowerandgardenin1016
@billssolarpowerandgardenin1016 4 года назад
Alan Curtis 😂
@misterhat5823
@misterhat5823 4 года назад
Sure beats hearing Sean Hannity.
@twocvbloke
@twocvbloke 4 года назад
Just remember to use the food-grade CO2 cartridges, the ones made for CO2-powered weaponry can contain a small amount of lubricant which wouldn't taste nice in fizzy trash wine... :P
@rolfs2165
@rolfs2165 4 года назад
A friend considered retrofitting a SodaStream for those large CO2 bottles - same problem there. Except finding food-safe 20l bottles of CO2 is even harder. And after we ran the numbers, it wasn't even worth it, at least when you take the cheaper non-branded cartridges.
@TheMoonSpoon
@TheMoonSpoon 4 года назад
Unless you want to make fizzy lube, then it's probably fine.
@peterg.8245
@peterg.8245 4 года назад
...Clive would make fizzy lube
@twocvbloke
@twocvbloke 4 года назад
"It gives you a zing on your thing!"
@shadwell749
@shadwell749 4 года назад
@@rolfs2165 i used food grade dry ice in my soda stream and works good and cheap.
@Cammi_Rosalie
@Cammi_Rosalie 4 года назад
In junior high school, My class made little drag race cars out of wood. a hole was in the back to accept a CO2 cylinder. Two cars would be set up on a trigger mechanism that launched both at the same time. I took my time and carved mine with an aerodynamic body. sanded it all real smooth and painted it. I sanded the plastic wheels smooth of their sprue dimples and used a wee little bit of graphite in the axles. Another girl just rough-cut some flat-nosed, very narrow wedge. and slapped the wheels on. When it launched, hers fell over on its side and slid down the track (Track being two tight, 50 or 60 foot long cables that ran through two screw-eyes in the bottoms of the cars) And it STILL beat mine by 2 feet! I called shenanigans on the quality of the CO2 cylinders.
@ICountFrom0
@ICountFrom0 4 года назад
Curiously, a wedge with only 3 wheels, and only 2 that touch at any time is the perfect derby racer.
@Cammi_Rosalie
@Cammi_Rosalie 4 года назад
@@ICountFrom0 True.. But I got beat by what was basically a door-stop, sliding on its side
@ICountFrom0
@ICountFrom0 4 года назад
That's what peek performance looks like.
@MarvinStroud3
@MarvinStroud3 4 года назад
I'm guessing you are about my age. We did the same thing in 1949.
@Cammi_Rosalie
@Cammi_Rosalie 4 года назад
@@MarvinStroud3 I was born in '75, I built my CO2 racer in 1989/90 school-year.
@rpdom
@rpdom 4 года назад
That was interesting. I remember my grandparents having one of those in the late 1960s when we visited them and they would make fizzy drinks (not wine) for us kids. I thought the sparklets bulbs were neat. Also, in the late 1980s I frequented a pub that had pre-filled and pressurised glass soda-siphons. They rarely got used for drinks, mostly we used them to squirt at everyone in the bar on certain nights, including the bar staff who joined in as well. Those were fun days. Sadly that pub, like all the other good ones has closed.
@mywindow9929
@mywindow9929 4 года назад
7:00 For those curious YT has a video called: "How it's made- CO2 cartridges" - tldr: cartridge is put into a sealed machine within a machine and it's filled and capped like the bigman said.
@target844
@target844 4 года назад
There is one main difference from Clive's explanation because his guess what that the cap is spot welded on. The video shows a lip was cut on a lathe and the caps look like they are put on it and then crimped not spot welded onto the neck. The ones that clive has looks a bit different and the cap is inside the neck of the container so I suspect the neck is crimped around the caps because it is a bit conical. The shape of the neck is visible at 6:21. You can see tool marks on the neck of the cylinder from some direction.
@mfx1
@mfx1 4 года назад
The How it's made video misses vital details of how the process exactly works (common with a lot of their videos).
@ddzwiedziu
@ddzwiedziu 5 месяцев назад
Unfortunately that video glances over how that one machine works.
@rayceeya8659
@rayceeya8659 4 года назад
So the concave shape in the bottle is called a punt. In wine bottles it makes the bottle easier to pour, but in this case it's a way to allow the bottle to handle the pressure and not fall over when you put it down. Anytime you're dealing with pressure vessels, the more spherical the better. Obviously a round bottom bottle won't stand up, so the punt turns part of the sphere inside out and follows the curvature of an ancient roman arch. 2000 years of engineering and materials science went into a device that makes fizz-water.
@aaronbrandenburg2441
@aaronbrandenburg2441 4 года назад
First of all you are absolutely right. I know for a fact a lot of people The Ponte . I know I probably spelled it wrong. I'm using Google for voice recognition sorry. Been more than one comment I've made at the Google turns out hilarious not intentionally. Anyone have stories on that or anything similar it'd be good to come in here just asking. Also is it possible to use Google voice recognition for Windows 10 PC use? Any comments on that would be appreciated I need to use voice recognition most of the time. And it would be better for some things than dragon. Any comments suggestions whenever would be appreciated thanks ahead of time. think that the bottom of a wine bottle is just so it's easier to pour if there's a domed in word but no it's for structural reasons because of pressure. All so By any chance are you an engineer?
@rayceeya8659
@rayceeya8659 4 года назад
@@aaronbrandenburg2441 Not an engineer, 15 years in beer and wine production. I guess you could call me a technician.
@misterhat5823
@misterhat5823 4 года назад
I thought for wine bottles it was to get more in a case?
@rayceeya8659
@rayceeya8659 4 года назад
@@misterhat5823 Never heard that one before. The punt decreases the volume of the bottle and would get you less in a case. I did find a Wikipedia reference though. "It allows bottles to be more easily stacked end to end" But if that were the case (see what I did there) why not use square bottles? Well that's where we are with Bota Boxes and Bota Bricks. Which I love. Being able to take the equivalent of four bottles of wine home in my backpack is the best thing the 21st century has to offer.
@CharlieFlemingOriginal
@CharlieFlemingOriginal 4 года назад
Wearing a long black cloak she moves graciously towards the bar, removes the cigarette holder from her lips and without a word the bartender knows her usual drink, and picks up the soda siphon. She raises her eyebrow to a watching well dressed man who offers his seat at a table next to a piano... All that is because I associate soda siphons with a time of pocket watches, hats, cigarette holders, black & white mono sound films. 1920s Art Deco era etc. Random comments, worth reading... I will go now, who knows where I'll be next? Picking up a wooden handled umbrella, he vanishes into the torrential rain and weak street lighting...
@theelmonk
@theelmonk 4 года назад
The plastic lever with a hole drilled through it looks a serious design flaw. Older levers were metal.
@mmartinm
@mmartinm 4 года назад
Maybe is glass fibre reinforced 30%
@Polite_Cat
@Polite_Cat 4 года назад
@@mmartinm with a TPU overmolding? with those styrene at the end of the molecules?
@fouroakfarm
@fouroakfarm 4 года назад
@@mmartinm/videos skookum
@killervirus57
@killervirus57 4 года назад
It's called planned obsolescence
@StarkRG
@StarkRG 4 года назад
Some plastics are stronger than some metals, so I wouldn't say so.
@Piasecznik72
@Piasecznik72 4 года назад
Liquid ability to dissolve gas in it increases as temperature drops, just opposite to solid dissolvability which increases as temperature rises. That is why cold wine will be better carbonized than warm one.
@sortsvane
@sortsvane 4 года назад
Thermodynamics ftw. !
@StreuB1
@StreuB1 5 лет назад
We used to use the nitrous version of these for NOT making whipped cream at large underground parties with walls of bassbins and argon lasers.....
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 5 лет назад
The argon lasers bit showed your age. It's all DPSS these days. Much easier to work with.
@Peter_S_
@Peter_S_ 4 года назад
The 7 colors coming from an argon are something to marvel at. The 514nm green just seemed so much nicer a shade than the 532nm greens of today and the variety of blues and purples were optically delicious. In the day, nothing else produced such a purple beam. I used to have an Omnichrome 532 for lightshow use. Splitting a 250mW argon beam with a prism and sending those beams through rippled glass on a turntable makes for an infinitely variable animation. Laser effects today just don't seem as rich.
@crazygeorgelincoln
@crazygeorgelincoln 4 года назад
Im guessing there must be a vape sized dispenser for no2 by now. Gotta beat walking around with a balloon like you've just come from a McDonald's birthday party.
@crazygeorgelincoln
@crazygeorgelincoln 4 года назад
Give it a few years they will all be driving oround with fire extinguishers chucking the empties out the window.
@G4m3G3ni3
@G4m3G3ni3 4 года назад
@@crazygeorgelincoln That comment made a very dark day a bliss thank you :) . I imaginated road accidents by people running over empty bright red canisters and as soon as i came to the realization that the empty canisters are most likley the least reason for said imaginary accidents just made me laugh for 45 mins straight.
@millomweb
@millomweb 4 года назад
"Amplification ratio" A.K.A. 'Leverage'.
@BdotRASS
@BdotRASS 4 года назад
I remember these from Tom & Jerry, but never had any idea what it was for...
@ATMAtim
@ATMAtim 4 года назад
😎
@vmelkon
@vmelkon 4 года назад
Yes, it was some weird thing I would see in cartoons like Bugs Bunny. So, it is basically for adding CO2 to water and you get a sugarless carbonated drink that tastes acidic and weird.
@PunakiviAddikti
@PunakiviAddikti 4 года назад
Now you know. It's a precursor for Soda Stream.
@generic6099
@generic6099 4 года назад
@@vmelkon carbonated water is awful, you can only taste the carbon/popping on your tongue unless the water is flavored. Source: i drank carbonated water just for the sake of anti-ignorance and gained a displeasure for carbonated water.
@vmelkon
@vmelkon 4 года назад
@@generic6099 : Yes, I know. It has a weird taste. I drank Canada Dry soda once. I hear that for colas, they have to add a lot of water to make it taste good but they also have to add phosphoric acid to balance things out. I don't know why phosphoric acid was specifically chosen instead of hydrochloric acid or sulfuric acid.
@gs425
@gs425 4 года назад
Laurel and hardy films would have lost half of their comedy props if these hadn't been invented!!!!
@daShare
@daShare 5 лет назад
I'm the same age as Clive and remember a teacher at primary school using one of those cylinders to propel a small rocket along a string between two buildings. They were certainly fun to play with.
@realnutteruk1
@realnutteruk1 4 года назад
I see these little silver cylinders everywhere in the streets of east London.... I don't think they held CO2 however!
@zackstewart4109
@zackstewart4109 4 года назад
Oh well, better nitrous canisters than syringes. Still, shame about the littering.
@englishrupe01
@englishrupe01 4 года назад
That's a waste! They work great as projectiles in shotgun cartridges!
@nerdydev
@nerdydev 4 года назад
Its not just London its all over
@SCAPE0GOAT
@SCAPE0GOAT 4 года назад
Great. Always wondered how these worked. My dad had one years ago. I remember pinching one of the little co2 bottles & throwing on a bin bonfire in the bag garden. Nothing happened for ages, so walked off. Then as I walked away it exploded shattering windows & throwing red hot shards of bin. Just a normal day in my life.
@NefariousMAC
@NefariousMAC 3 года назад
A tip I read for carbonating wine in an old 1950s Sparkletts ad was flipping the bottle upside down when pressurizing. When you pressurize right-side up the CO2 is passing out the stem and through the wine, frothing it up like shown, but flipping it upside down lets you load the canister with CO2 without it bubbling through the wine, then gradually dissolve it.
@OrangeHex.
@OrangeHex. 4 года назад
Funny, I just threw an orange coloured one out from my late dads house clearing - I saved the glass wire bound one. If you let the CO2 in slowly as shake it, it also works better , rather in one quick rush I remember as a kid dropping a sparkletts down a copper tube onto a nail, it shot out hit the ceiling and went mad all around the room - such fun.
@povilasstaniulis9484
@povilasstaniulis9484 4 года назад
When I was a kid I remember there was a company in my country which sold carbonated water in siphons somewhat similar to this one, except they were single-use and not user-refillable. You would return empty siphons to back to the company and they would refill them. I loved these siphons. Made tons of lemonade using water from them.
@2lefThumbs
@2lefThumbs 4 года назад
Carbonated Shiraz ftw tbh (also, good point on gas solubility in liquids, lower temps are better, as long as the liquid doesn't freeze👍)
@davechandler6884
@davechandler6884 4 года назад
Mid 60`s the soda syphons were bought ready to go from your local off-licence, large and glass with a deposit every kid wanted to get his hands on LOL .
@zakofrx
@zakofrx 4 года назад
Search RU-vid, their are companies doing it still the exact same way.
@paranoiia8
@paranoiia8 4 года назад
Does bottle have safety spot? Small really light rounded dent at the bottom or top, so if it over pressure it will rapture there instead of random spot? I remember that someone say to me that some pressure kitchen canisters have those but I never had chance to check that(or I just forgot about it)
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 4 года назад
It has a pressure release valve in the head.
@igotes
@igotes 4 года назад
Rapture that gas straight to the Lord!
@geraldgepes
@geraldgepes 5 лет назад
I almost wonder if the whole manufacturing of the cylinders process isn't done under a high pressure atmosphere so that there is no worry of them leaking before being sealed. Edit: just looked into it and it appears that the capping and filling happens in the same machine, I've gotta think under the same pressure.
@skm9420
@skm9420 4 года назад
@@48Boxer how would you get it in there? That would waste a lot to just spray co2 in there until it condenses into dry ice.
@sarkybugger5009
@sarkybugger5009 4 года назад
Video of similar cartridge manufacture: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-i-w7pqowcPI.html
@dustinsmith8341
@dustinsmith8341 4 года назад
16:18 Clive singing and shakin' "it like a polaroid picture."
@droneracer
@droneracer 4 года назад
I think the bottom is concave because if it was flat the pressure would blow it outward and the flask would not stand straight upright the, rounded corners are to prevent stress fractures.
@ShadowzGSD
@ShadowzGSD 4 года назад
who in the UK remembers watching That's Life with the soda siphon and the doggos in the pub?
@rogeralden5534
@rogeralden5534 4 года назад
Yup - that was in the George Hotel, Market Place, Castle Cary, Somerset. (I also saw it on TV in the States back in the Ninties)
@ciri151
@ciri151 4 года назад
This instantly reminded me of that SpongeBob episode where Octo keeps pouring drinks for Patrick and SpongeBob.
@DaveLennonCopeland
@DaveLennonCopeland 4 года назад
Oof... my gran had a soda syphon from the 1920s, it was green with a sort of diagonal check pattern, when I was a kid, I picked it up but clumsily dropped it... SMASH...
@TheLoxxxton
@TheLoxxxton 4 года назад
Already being familiar with soda streams from the early 70s it was like a cosy chat with uncle Clive tonight. Informative and slightly boozy. Just the way I like it. Next week the correct method (with diagrams) of rolling the perfect spliff.
@gazzaka
@gazzaka 4 года назад
I don't know why, but we always used some bicarbonate of soda in the water, before using the "boom"
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 4 года назад
I think it was to counteract the natural acidity of the CO2.
@johnmorgan1629
@johnmorgan1629 4 года назад
Don't know why, but this made me think of The Persuaders, sashaying up to a bar.
@musicurio
@musicurio 4 года назад
Excellent! Competent, knowlegable and fun. No silly intros telling youwhat is obvious, and NO DAFT MUSIC! Thanks Clive!!
@Woffy.
@Woffy. 7 месяцев назад
NO Woofles here !!!!!!!!
@root42
@root42 4 года назад
The one way valve looks just like a Dunlop bicycle valve.
@colinfuller2271
@colinfuller2271 4 года назад
"Sparklets" I believe were the main brand of these.
@johnnodge4327
@johnnodge4327 4 года назад
I remember them as Sparklets Bulbs.
@colinfuller2271
@colinfuller2271 4 года назад
@@johnnodge4327 the co2 cartridge was referred to as the bulb, the main body being a soda syphon.
@Dudleymiddleton
@Dudleymiddleton 4 года назад
There were green ones for CO2 and there were blue ones for laffs
@johnnodge4327
@johnnodge4327 4 года назад
@@colinfuller2271 I didn't make it clear, but I was referring to the CO2 canister as the bulb. The whole thing was called a Soda siphon.
@Dedubya-
@Dedubya- 4 года назад
My brother used to chuck the green sparklets into a bonfire and they would explode making a huge bang and shoot out the split metal cannister about 30 feet and embedd it into a nearby tree / person / shed. Oh how we amused ourselves back in the 1980's He also found that cutting off small sections of corrigated asbestos shed roofiing and putting in a fire would also cause it to explod (odd for a suposed fire proof material).... I often wonder how none of use were killed :D
@Sharklops
@Sharklops 4 года назад
I wonder if you just loaded the bottle up with slices of fruit if they would get carbonated. A nice fizzy slice of orange seems like it could be very good
@tncorgi92
@tncorgi92 4 года назад
You may have just invented something.
@Groenkjaer
@Groenkjaer 4 года назад
They would: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-So4ZrzBkJsA.html
@DrakkarCalethiel
@DrakkarCalethiel 4 года назад
They do! Ben from Applied Science did carbonate apple slices. He also put pieces of avocado into N2O.
@Qualle23fulHD
@Qualle23fulHD 4 года назад
When you only know these from Spongebob
@sparkyprojects
@sparkyprojects 4 года назад
I preferred the Sparklets beer tap for the party 4 and party 7 :D Thinking about it, the longer cylinder may have been for those, i just checked mine (yes i still have it) and it measures 62.5mm internally where the cylinder goes.
@mduvigneaud
@mduvigneaud 5 лет назад
When I homebrew beer I usually force-carbonated in 5 gallon corny kegs. Shaking those to get the CO2 to dissolve faster is a bit of a workout. ;)
@gabest4
@gabest4 4 года назад
We always made our soda this way until last year. The price of CO2 capsules went up and it is actually cheaper to just buy it in bottles.
@Griffdog21
@Griffdog21 4 года назад
Big Clive hits a whipit on camera and dies.mp4
@paulabraham2550
@paulabraham2550 4 года назад
How did you manage to line the drill up to the other side of that pin? That sounds really difficult.
@PropaneWP
@PropaneWP 4 года назад
Contrary to popular belief, Polaroid Corporation has advised that shaking your Polaroid picture does not improve the development process in any way.
@thomasherzog86
@thomasherzog86 4 года назад
afaik its even bad for the modern version they sell now
@restorer19
@restorer19 4 года назад
Supermegatight is my favorite superhero.
@TechGorilla1987
@TechGorilla1987 4 года назад
Back in the day, I had a bicycle pump that operated off these cartridges too. Great, light-weight pump for on the go. I later used the same pump to pump CO2 in to my growing plants to help them take the heat of the hydroponic system.
@TechGorilla1987
@TechGorilla1987 4 года назад
@Bill Whittaker ;) Weed early in life until I discovered live resins and shatter. Then I grew food for my two pet rabbits. I'm old enough to remember when 1000w HID's were in. I was an early adopter of LED's and elevated CO2 levels. I basically tried to replicate a PhotoTron if you're of the age to remember those ads.
@Nono-hk3is
@Nono-hk3is 5 лет назад
The co2 cylinders are also used to inflate bicycle tires, as they are faster and smaller than having to pack a pump. Some are like the tube you had, while others are threaded on the end that gets punctured. Either way, you use them with a small adapter that connects them to the presta or Schrader valves on the tire tube. The adapter has some kind of valve release, and it's tricky to control or judge if you have enough in your tire tube, The common knowledge among cyclists (read: not sure if true) is that the co2 will escape from the tubes much faster than air, so you are advised to replace it after you return from your bike ride.
@malcolmtill
@malcolmtill 4 года назад
I guess you could use the Nitrogen cylinders for tyres.
@malcolmtill
@malcolmtill 4 года назад
@Bill Whittaker My new tyres (Tires) where inflated with pure Nitrogen when fitted a couple of weeks ago. If you check COSTCO Tyre sales they have an excellent explanation of why it's better.
@manolisgledsodakis873
@manolisgledsodakis873 4 года назад
@@malcolmtill where?
@malcolmtill
@malcolmtill 4 года назад
@@manolisgledsodakis873 Quote "First is that nitrogen is less likely to migrate through tire rubber than is oxygen, which means that your tire pressures will remain more stable over the long term. Racers figured out pretty quickly that tires filled with nitrogen rather than air also exhibit less pressure change with temperature swings"
@malcolmtill
@malcolmtill 4 года назад
@Bill Whittaker What question are you referring to ??? I suggested Nitrogen as an alternative to Co2. Perhaps you would consider reading the comments more carefully in future to save making Ill considered remarks.
@Whigu
@Whigu 4 года назад
How about using it with milk? I have heard that milk doesn't like to be carbonited
@superdau
@superdau 4 года назад
CO2 will make it taste sour. That's why there are different cartridges filled with N2O or N2 for cream.
@pequodexpress
@pequodexpress 4 месяца назад
Can refillable 8g CO2 cartridges be used with this soda siphon?
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 4 месяца назад
This unit punctures the seal of the cylinder, so I'm not sure if it could be used with refillable ones.
@stonent
@stonent 4 года назад
Whipped cream? Is that like "Cool Whip"? (Stewie Voice) ;)
@MannyJazzcats
@MannyJazzcats 4 года назад
No.
@2lefThumbs
@2lefThumbs 4 года назад
Tbf, Clive's Scots accent does sound like Stewie's RP of "whip" as "Hwip". Whipped cream using nitrous oxide is much cooler for teens than Cool Whip tho, I believe
@w.loczykij5354
@w.loczykij5354 4 года назад
I'm not that old at all. :)) and I can remember from the depths of my memory hole those things being home delivered by the crate! Pack of smokes & Whisky and soda era? The difference is that they had no cartridge but were rather filled up at the distribution point. No PET plastics. Full recycling.
@mickward2775
@mickward2775 4 года назад
Haha I like the shake it like a Polaroid picture comment. Maybe Clive likes Outkast This was a refreshing video
@gregorythomas333
@gregorythomas333 4 года назад
"Shake it, shake it, shake it, like a Polaroid picture" Pretty kewl video...never actually seen one of these used for anything other than squirting people :)
@MrHack4never
@MrHack4never 4 года назад
On the subject of spraying people with these, are you thinking of seltzer? That's the transparent glass bottles with spray nozzle they used in Tom and Jerry Example/(short) documentary: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-agAkMbk20y4.html
@sotirzvanidjubre4109
@sotirzvanidjubre4109 4 года назад
YT is weird. I jumped from Ecuadorian spiritual cleansing to a bottle for carbonating water in no time.
@tomaszwota1465
@tomaszwota1465 4 года назад
Ecuadorian what? Wait, I don't even want to know.
@phonotical
@phonotical 4 года назад
Be interested to see what a pressure gauge would read if applied to the bottle
@oreubens
@oreubens 4 года назад
Are those small capsules recyclable ? A quick google reveals they're 5 times more expensive than sodastream gas, which in itself is also already a "scam". Get a soda stream, get a conversion kit from ebay, and connect your sodastream to a big (food grade) CO2 tank (anything from 2L to 10L, must be pressurized gas, not liquid CO2) and you get your fizzy water so incredibly cheap. You have to buy the CO2 bottle instead of licensing it (which makes it a "steep" purchase at the start), but refills are so dirt cheap you get it back in no time. You "may" be able to sell the empty bottle back at the end if you no longer want a refill. Only disadvantage is the requirement to have the large co2 bottle close to your sodastream. 600ml sodastream bottle: about 12 Euro. (bottle under license, you get 2Euro if you return it without refilling). 10L co2 bottle (180 Euro for the bottle (yes), the 2L and 5L are obviously a cheaper, but have a more expensive refill): 25-30 Euro for a refill. So for the cost of 20 sodastream CO2 bottles... you can get the big CO2 and get the same amount of fizzy water. After that, you start saving 10 euro on each additional sodastream bottle you no longer need to buy. If you use a lot of fizzy water in a day, this pays itself back in no time.
@AlanJenney
@AlanJenney 4 года назад
The empty steel bulbs can go into the recycling along with steel food cans, but check with your collection company/authority. Don't put full ones in.
@oreubens
@oreubens 4 года назад
@@AlanJenney Well with "recycling" I meant "reuse"/refill, not shipping them to china where they can melt them down into steel to make more stuff to sell to Big Clive. If they are "waste", it's a pretty expensive way to make fizzy water. Maybe that's why Clive uses them on wine, to make it a better bargain than fizzy water :-D
@paulvale2985
@paulvale2985 4 года назад
16:00 Clive "I put a little vasaline on it because I found it a bit rough at the beginning". Really Clice?
@zx8401ztv
@zx8401ztv 4 года назад
I remember the old glass ones that i think were sealed, white short nozzel and small lever on the back of the head.
@peterthompson4851
@peterthompson4851 4 года назад
To make Soda Water add 1 teaspoon of sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) to the water before injecting CO2.
@pollywollydo
@pollywollydo 4 года назад
Peter Thompson so that's what the tablets were (see above) thanks
@AlexAnder-or3kq
@AlexAnder-or3kq 4 года назад
Carbon dioxide ! How dare you
@lostjohnny9000
@lostjohnny9000 4 года назад
The original Soda Stream bottles were stainless steel. The new ones all appear to be aluminium. I wonder which makes the biggest explosion when you fill with diesel and 5 x NO2 chargers? Only one way to find out...
@tncorgi92
@tncorgi92 4 года назад
Yikes.
@plasmodium4220
@plasmodium4220 4 года назад
Project Farm "we have five fuel additives and some screenwash. Which will power the engine longest? Lets find out!"
@AlanJenney
@AlanJenney 4 года назад
A word of warning: do NOT carbonate MILK.
@igotes
@igotes 4 года назад
Instant pressurised cottage cheese? Delicious!
@FerroGamer
@FerroGamer 4 года назад
In Hungary we only drink wine with seltzer water and we call it "Fröccs". That was a tradition when you made seltzer water with a siphon. You needed one CO2 cartridge for a 1L siphon and two CO2 cartridge for a 2L one. As a kid I liked when my hand is frosted on the cartridge when I twisted the cartridge holder into the siphon's head.
@hamzakamel2752
@hamzakamel2752 4 года назад
i'd love to see how you abuse your sodastream in a future video.
@3dlabs99
@3dlabs99 4 года назад
Yeah great idea! I'd like to see carbonated warm coffee and tea and ketchup and vodka and porridge.
@misturchips
@misturchips 4 года назад
I poked a tire valve through a 2-liter bottlecap, and use a 5lb CO2 tank to make seltzer regularly. get the water cold enough to where ice crystals JUST start forming on the outside before pressurizing, and run it up to between 45 and 65PSI depending on how much you trust PET bottles and how much Fizzzzzzzz you want! Mix w/ orange juice, and it's a stellar bevvy.
@thewhizard
@thewhizard 4 года назад
carbonated wine = Champagne ?
@peterg.8245
@peterg.8245 4 года назад
Oh, actually all champagne is French, it's named after the region. Otherwise it's sparkling white wine. Americans, of course, don't recognize the convention so it becomes that thing of calling all of their sparkling white champagne, even though by definition they're not. Wayne’s World, Wayne’s World, It’s Wayne’s World, Party Time! Excellent!!!
@isladurrant2015
@isladurrant2015 4 года назад
Fun fact: Champagne was invented by an Englishman, Christopher Merrett. He published a paper on the method six years before Dom Perignon was born and 100 years before the first French Champagne house was founded.
@edgeeffect
@edgeeffect 4 года назад
Round our way you find a lot .... A LOT... of empty nittous oxide cylinders because people use them... erm "recreationaly".... they must have some sort of cut-down soda-syphon-lid ... 'cus how else can they conttol the flow of nittous oxide. I've often wondered if the old cylinders could join my scrap steel collection, but I can't think of anything to make them into.
@kazumahikineet3090
@kazumahikineet3090 4 года назад
"Shake it, shake it, shake it, shake it like a polaroid picture!" Thanks for the earworm, enjoy your wine.
@robtitheridge9708
@robtitheridge9708 4 года назад
more complex than i expected
@mfx1
@mfx1 4 года назад
I have some sparklet bulb filling nozzles I got from a home workshop clearance of an ex. BOC chief engineer. Still haven't figured out entirely how they work.
@markiangooley
@markiangooley 4 года назад
My Dad had one... maybe two? I’ve never handled one that wasn’t broken, so I just assume that all of them are... I can get a two-liter bottle of fizzy water (or house-brand soft drink) for US$0.79 to a bit over $1.00, and I think that that may be the cheapest way to get carbonation. Supposedly there’s about 2.2 grams of carbon dioxide in 16 ounces of a typical carbonated beverage, so an 8-gram CO2 cylinder can’t quite carbonate 2 liters of liquid.
@RuneInternational
@RuneInternational 4 года назад
Maybe it is good for EU countries to bring down the CO2 count, by exporting CO2 this way. Thinking the Sodastream company get away with the same thing.
@tncorgi92
@tncorgi92 4 года назад
It's a negligible amount. Probably would take billions of cylinders to make any difference, and at that point you're creating excesses of other waste products just from the manufacturing process.
@thomasherzog86
@thomasherzog86 4 года назад
if it wasnt for the fact they dont magically "capture" co2 from the atmosphere, but additionally produce it.
@28YorkshireRose12
@28YorkshireRose12 4 года назад
'60s and '70s, Clive? The original "Sparklets" soda syphon goes all the way back to 1896 - definitely predates the "Sodastream". My earliest Sodastream was a model from the turn of the decade, '50s/'60s. When I was a mere grasshopper, I saw these things being used (or abused) in countless old movies, and always seemed to be a plaything for the well-to-do, but I also remember in school, we occasionally got to play with the CO2 bulbs as a source of propulsion for various experiments, launching tiny 'vehicles' across the floor for the purpose of demonstrating the effects of drag, and the inefficiencies imposed by drag factors. As I recall, the empty bulbs were quite highly prized amongst the boys in our class, a sort of trophy I guess.
@crazygeorgelincoln
@crazygeorgelincoln 4 года назад
Here's the mouthpiece ,no wait wrong gas. How many disks of PCB do you need to get 3 cylinders to stay inside. I'm sure the main vessel has provision to fail in a safe way.
@aaronbrandenburg2441
@aaronbrandenburg2441 4 года назад
Two things here. First. LOL towards 20 minutes into the video or close to that. Instead of calling it a soda siphon. He called it a Sodastream. Did anyone else notice? He missed it as well. Right big Clive? Second. Big Clive by the way you should do a teardown of a Tesla pyro fuse. AKA Ludacris mode fuse. AKA pyrotechnic fuse. And a normal Tesla fuse. I'm talking about the one for the high-tension battery AKA high voltage battery traction battery that's used as a main fuse. And if possible tear down a blown one and a good one. Which you can get out of me Babe by the way. Obviously a good one not the blown up for the quote one. If you get the pirate joke. I'm some kind of surprised you not done it yet because you are into pyrotechnics. Please be quiet do it for all of us. I've been wanting to see a video on this. I'm sure I'm not the only one. So far not seen one on RU-vid. If anyone goes down wrong and has a link please sticking in a comment thanks.
@superdau
@superdau 4 года назад
Ooh, those cartridges trigger good memories and a bad feeling at the same time. As a kid I filled the empty cartridges with the powder out of multiple new year's match type bangers. The "fuse" was one ladycracker stuck into the opening (with a part of the long real fuse it was attached to). The resulting bang got the whole neighbourhood look out the window and left a hole the size of a small bowl in the ground (the thing wasn't even buried). I guess I'm lucky that I've still got all my finger or even that I'm still alive.
@blahorgaslisk7763
@blahorgaslisk7763 4 года назад
Yea, sometimes I wonder just how I managed to live through childhood, and with very little in the way of scars and not a single broken bone. Also makes me feel that kids growing up today are missing out on so much fun stuff, but then they've got the entire internet to find things to do that could kill them, so perhaps it's not that bad...
@peterjf7723
@peterjf7723 4 года назад
I remember at about age 14 drilling out the top and filling with magnesium powder(supplied by a friend whose father was a chemistry teacher) + potassium nitrate, which made a fairly powerful explosive. The fuse was a small firecracker with the base cut off. We tested one in my tree house which had a tgv floor, we put an old washing machine drum over it as a guard. The explosion left our ears ringing and blasted a section of tgv out of the floor.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 4 года назад
That incident also features in an online document called diary of a pyro.
@yvettemorales1671
@yvettemorales1671 Месяц назад
Thank you. All I wanted to know was how the measuring tube worked and how it was used. I had to dig, but found your very simple explanation along with a lot of other interesting facts!
@BedsitBob
@BedsitBob 4 года назад
CO2 powered airguns/BB guns use a similar cartridge, but they're a bit longer (83mm instead of the 65mm for the Sparklets ones), which is a good job because the airgun ones contain a tiny amount of oil (to lubricate the seals), which you wouldn't really want in your Soda Water.
@troyparr1659
@troyparr1659 4 года назад
Clive, dare I suggest this? There are also similar cartridges sold for making whipped cream and they are very, very popular. They contain laughing gas instead of carbon dioxide. Except I don't think that most users are making whipped cream with the stuff. Instead, they fill a balloon with the gas and take a whiff, just for giggles. I once delivered six large pallets of these to a place just outside Romford, and no way was it anywhere to do with catering! In some car parks you can often find loads of empties dumped by the less conscientious users. Anyway, do you think that using these "alternative" cartridges could be advantageous? The taste might be ok, and the experience could be amusing... :-)
@penfold7800
@penfold7800 4 года назад
Oh yeah, ahem, did i forget to mention... Keep shaking it up, to ahem, 'mix the CO2 with the liquid'. (But dont be surprised if the pressure builds up, distorts the valve, and makes a big mess of your bench). ...yeah i wonder why youre not showing us the new unadulterated unit!
@chuckp3986
@chuckp3986 4 года назад
Big Clive, as a homebrewer I'm somewhat disappointed to see you using something like this to make sparkling wine. As a reasonable human being I also scoff at the overpriced pressurized growlers on the market. In any case if you really want to fine tune the level of fizz, they sell growlers with little regulators (still using the paintball CO2 cartridges) that let you fine tune the amount of fizz. Brewing resources could probably give you the appropriate pressures to use. As a chemist I will also underscore your observation that as temperature decreases, solubility of a gas in a liquid increases. Practical meaning- cold liquids can be fizzier.
@Killerspieler0815
@Killerspieler0815 4 года назад
@bigclivedotcom - YES , water at 1°C is best to keep the CO2 longer in solution due to less atomic vibration (it works the same in the big way , very very big way: global warming causes CO2 levels to rise & not CO2 global warming)
@Flashy7
@Flashy7 4 года назад
Central Europe, 1980s: every home had one. There were a few variations of shapes and colours, we had a 2 liter one (needs 2 cylinders). Everybody knew how to use it. In some cases you had to be careful because the first squirt was so violent that it shoot the syrup out of the glass, children loved trying it first outside. Those were such times if somebody told us that in a few years we will buy water in a plastic bottle in the supermarket, we would not believe. We (as kids at least) did not even know that bottled sparkling water existed. This machine was the base of our drinks: soft drinks from home made fruit syrup for kids and sparkling wine (wine+sparkling water) for adults.
@DanielLopez-kt1xt
@DanielLopez-kt1xt 4 года назад
I guess you could get the top preassure by turning it upside down before putting the CO2 capsules, so the air is accumulated in the bottom, and once you reach the over-pressure, it will only vent CO2 until you reach just below that point, and you'll keep most of the liquid inside (if i understood your "how does it works" correctly)... also, you could use a normal air compressor to fill it...
@billssolarpowerandgardenin1016
@billssolarpowerandgardenin1016 4 года назад
Definitely liquid in the cartridge. I use a device to blow out HVAC drain lines in my business. I have accidentally pulled the trigger and liquid and vapor pour out. It expands so quickly that not all the contents will exit the cartridge. Removing the spent cartridge will result in a frozen cartridge. Funsies!
@christophergrove4876
@christophergrove4876 4 года назад
Clive! That's the exact same syphon my gal had put in my stocking (not literally) last year. Regarding filling the cartridges... there may be a clue in this Soda Stream refill video (using dry ice). Take a peek! 😁 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-l-a3pISQLQg.html
@bubba99009
@bubba99009 4 года назад
If you have access to a large bottle of CO2 with a regulator you can use a 2 liter bottle filled 3/4 with cold liquid and shake it to make inexpensive carbonated water (or other fluids) without getting into taken in by the expensive disposable half-empty proprietary cylinder scam.
@remcovanvliet3018
@remcovanvliet3018 4 года назад
Wine is acidic, which doesn't combine well with aluminium. If you want to carbonize wine you should get a ceramic coated bottle. And let it sit for 12-24 hrs before serving. It should work just fine then.
@DirtyRobot
@DirtyRobot 4 года назад
Try making up some flavoured tea, get it cold and then put it in the siphon. Works pretty well with fruit flavours.
@danielm2142
@danielm2142 4 года назад
I've always been fascinated by these things, but have yet to actually see one in person (I probably couldn't be trusted with it), I believe the first time was when George Stobbart uses one to extinguish a fire in Broken Sword II, it probably made an impression because the music and the spider terrified six year old me... Even I feel weird making that connection.
@doncooper3946
@doncooper3946 4 года назад
Right. You can overpressure as well by attempting to carbonate a liquid which has ALREADY been carbonated, using a second cartridge.
@millomweb
@millomweb 4 года назад
1. Not convinced the Co2 goes down the long dip tube. I suspect it just goes down the shorter one. 2. Chilled soft drinks, when poured, fizz a lot less than room temperature ones. Again, the cold liquid retains the CO2 better. 3. Does it work if you put beer into it ? 4. Bottle of wine - no need to top up to the level with water.
@thomasesr
@thomasesr 4 года назад
The colder the liquid the more CO2 will be absorbed by the liquid. Beer works fine. When you shake it the liquid absorbs more CO2 and the pressure drops inside. So if its cold enough and you shake enough and left it sitting for a while, theoretically you can use more than one CO2 Capsule.
@mikecummings7054
@mikecummings7054 3 года назад
I find loads of these cylinders an there definitely not Co2, breathing that would cause hypoxia. Some inhale nitrous oxide to get high, it's used in the food industry. Back to the Syphon, ones in the 1960s 70s used these cylinders called Sparklet bulbs, earlier syphons were thick glass construction an came ready gassed, once empty the maker took it back, Schweppes made such syphons, the later ones like yours worked in a similar way to a soda stream except the water came out carbonised without the need to pre load a bottle.
@TheMrVengeance
@TheMrVengeance 4 года назад
Hmm, now I'm wondering if you could use one of these to quickly carbonate a small batch of homebrew beer if you don't want to bottle. Or maybe the N2O version for a nitro beer like Guinness, or a nice nitro cold brew coffee. 🤔 Anyone have experience in that area?
@TGeersing
@TGeersing 4 года назад
I worked in dishwashing at one place, it meant I was also responsible for filling there's things (whipped cream version) for the guys in the serving jobs. Some of the serving guys where thought they where better then the people in the washing so demanding quick refill... I can tell you, those things can hold 4 of those gas cartridges ;) ah, good times
@henryrollins9177
@henryrollins9177 4 года назад
In my country there is still a soda delivery service that comes twice a week... You can buy soda in plastic 2 liters size in stores ...or you can buy one of these refillable bottles and make your own soda. Search for "sifón Drago". Yes, we drink a lot of wine in my country.
@stevefox3763
@stevefox3763 4 года назад
Its a liquid inside the capsules, it has a liquid to gas expansion of over 530x and is stored at roughly 800psi and the cap will be designed to burst at around 1300psi to vent the pressure 'safely' instead of the bottle exploding if it gets too hot. i dont know exactly how they get the caps on the bottles but i know that they are filled at a very low temperature and they must be kept at pressure during filling as Liquid co2 cannot exist at normal pressure and that pressure must be maintained right though to the cap being fixed on otherwise the co2 will instantly boil off and so the machine must have some sort of capping mechanism that works inside the pressurised filling head.
@pen25
@pen25 4 года назад
If the liquid is cold it will dissolve the co2 better. I cold carb my beer. So pouring nthe wine in then tossing in the freezer until just above freezing or around 38 to 42*f will let it absorb the co2 and if dispensed cold it won't foam as much.
@ehamster
@ehamster 4 года назад
Just using mine at the moment. Water + a teaspoon of bicarb makes soda water great for scotch and soda. I have an old glass siphon. The seals failed, I bought another cheap siphon, and the new head fitted on the old siphon. I buy the co2 cylinders in packs of 100. I drink a lot of scotch.
@phonotical
@phonotical 4 года назад
I think they use nitrous oxide because it is relatively inert, carbon dioxide screws with the taste of the cream, I beloeve they also use the same to make the bubbles in Guinness, as it makes a finer bubble, supposedly
@tobysari
@tobysari 4 года назад
As you said, ice clod water is better - if you use a soda-stream you will save Gas/Money. I pay 10Pound for a 400g refill. its worth the cooling.
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