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@@UglyTruthVetNahhh she’s not kidding - she/he/they thinks that Hamas, Hezbollah, and Islamic guard of Iran are the top trained military members out there!
PAT WATKINS PART 2??? I can listen to you guys tell stories all day! Thanks a million and get Pat back on for part 2 before my beers gets warm! Thanks again.
It's funny. If you watch John Wayne and the boys in "The Green Berets", they were all playing heroes doing feats of derring-do and being courageous. But when you listen to the real-life stories from these MACV-SOG men, the real stories are a million times more courageous than the movies. What the real guys did is terrifying. Thank you for what you did for our country to all you MACV-SOG heroes! Cheers to all you brave gentlemen!
Can't thank all of you enough for not only bringing these stories to us, but also for doing what you did during your careers. Legends, heroes, mentors!
There's something weird about hearing these now seemingly gentle old men, who were once fierce young men, talk in this way - it's unsettling and strangely reassuring at the same time. We tend to think of young men in old wars as somehow quaint and different to us because their photographs look faded and their fashions and technologies look dated, but they're *exactly* the same as us. Time and ageing beguile us.
59:48 " . . . and he (Singlaub) told him where the war really was, and that Navy officer didn't want to hear it." Two things I love about Sgt. Major Pat Watkins, 1) his utter contempt for "shiny brass" and 2) the same contempt for that "peanut farmer" in the White House.
It’s amazing that these men were BOYS fighting the fight of their lives and there here telling the most hilarious gruesome stories of this horrible place. True American heroes at work. God bless and thank you for your heroic service. Cheer my boys, salute 🇺🇸
Let's get this man back on. He's got more to offer us. This is the best podcast I've had the pleasure of finding and listening to in quite awhile. Thanks for the product and for the experience. Great!
I just finished listening to SOGCast 001 - SOGCast 023. Yes, it took a while. When I got home from Vietnam in ’71 we had to play war games and my group was attached with a group of Green Berets. You mentioned a night time practice jump with some guys landing in trees and someone breaking their leg. Was this jump somewhere in North Carolina and did you ever have Marines helping on the ground? If so, I was one of the Marines on the ground. I remember the loud crack of tree limbs and guys yelling in the dark. Our orders were to help with the parachutes if asked to do so and if anyone was hurt we were told not to touch them and just wait with them until the Corpsman got there. The guy that landed close to me had broken his leg. He asked me to move his leg that was twisted in the wrong direction. I told him I was not allowed to touch him if he was injured. He was not happy. Thanks,
New drinking game..... every time Pat Watkins says "to make a long story short" do a shot! Thank you guys for another great episode and I look forward to the next one.
At times it’s boys being boys reliving the worst of times having a good laughs in the worst conditions. That’s what true American HEROS are made of. This golden! Salute 🇺🇸
Pat Watkins!?! Ive heard the stories of him flying with covey but this interview was all time!! I feel so grateful to have the opportunity to listen to these heroes talk about the old days. This is fantastic! Thank you for you service!
Mr. Meyers’ mic sounds one legged. Maybe change out the XLR cable…or it could be out of phase with the other or the HPF is set way too high….let me know if I could help boys
These interviews should have 10x the numner of watches, comments; and all around buzz about it. These are the really,really bad asses that people should hear about.
Thank you for sharing your stories ! 🙏🏻🤗 when I grew up in the 60’s I was born in 62 , I was so afraid that I would have to go over there and fight in the war , I was raised by a single mom and 9 older sisters and didn’t understand what was going on
And for those non military/veteran types…I hope you all acknowledge, that these men wouldnt just talk this way and share these stories in front of every day civilians. They are able to open up and talk so casually and freely about these things bc they have shared these same horrific experiences together. They “get” each other. Same with me and my brethren who are vets of the GWOT. I wont talk about my stories with civilians bc they wont understand. But get me in a room with guys i served with or have been over there, and we can talk for hours…:even making light of seeing horrible things. Granted, what these men went through makes all of us GWOT guys look like pre-pubescent boys…. But im trying to convey the point that besides the non disclosure agreement they signed, it also probably took them decades to process all of to where they could openly share it. The flashbacks/nightmares they probably endured were horrible….still probably have some to this day. But its been so long, they’ve learned to manage it. Gentlemen, as a combat veteran myself, you all are men amongst men. I salute you and thank you for showing the public what true service, camaraderie and bravery looks like. I hate to say it, but today’s generation is greatly lacking it. For the military guys in my generation, you guys were our heroes and why we joined. So thank you. We wont ever come close to filling the boots you left behind.
Thank you, men, for your amazing service and awesome cast. Love listening to the SOG stories. I live in Chicago area and am working on the story of a local man, MIA 1Lt Ronald Janousek. He was a Marine helicopter copilot, who on an extraction mission into Laos on August 8, 1969, his ship was shot down and crashed into a river. You mentioned Captain Anh. He was there on the day Ronald's ship was hit. Ronald's ship was upside down in 12 feet of water. Captain Ahn dropped his Kingbee down, under intense fire, pushed his landing gear wheel into the window of Ronald's Huey and flipped it over so he could see if anyone was in the cabin. 1Lt Ronald Janousek was never found, is still MIA. He was a 1962 grad of Mendel Catholic High School in Chicago. His hometown of Posen, Illnois named the street he grew up after him. Iti is incredible what he and all you incredible men did. God bless you.
Funny guys make life easier to live. Great stories. Same flag pole stuffs they experienced happened later and I’m sure happening still today. Different generations same shit.
I worked with a guy, who recently retired, that was over there during the war. His vague stories give absolutely no details (because he swore to secrecy) and I keep waiting to hear his name in one of these stories. I never asked but always listened to him talk about his service and even though it was fifty-some years ago, he stands by his oath to not speak about what he did and saw. If I ever do hear him named in a story, I'll be able to tell him and hopefully be able to show him the podcast
The CBU cluster bomb 💣 units had internal timers and would detonate at different intervals , instantly on impact , 5 minutes, 15 minutes, 20 minutes, 2 hours , basically a mix sometimes lasting a day over 24 hours , exploding 🤯 over different times. Basically a linear mine field laided like a wall between the enemy and the US troops to provide time and distance for troops to get to the LZ
We gotta get Mel Gibson level runaround Hollywood movie shit for this. Then, Bargwell and Sally. Dick Meadows and early Delta. Very important history. Also, Mad Dog Shriver. Killers, Heroes and real, plain old AMERICANS. You never lived until you almost died. Life has a sweetness the protected will never know.
Right on , I’m 20 mins into the pod, just wanna say u look like a pro podcasted already Tilt!!! Pat was the first sog pod I saw , u two with dick “dynamite” Thompson would be an epic podcast!!
“Shit for hot,” is one of my new favorite comments hahahaha. We always said “they’re shit hot” during my time in the Army, but Pat’s version is better/funnier lol
Pat is great at telling his story but I can’t take John’s interruptions and being wrong 90% of the time being correct by Pat. Then flipping through a book during a interview that he should have looked before the interview anymore. Mike is a by far a better interviewer of Pat.
My uncle was 48th joker ahc platoon he flew Mr John and there platoons across the fence if they left out of ccn in 68 and 69 man that is just astounding stuff unreal at the stories my uncle was bill chapman if you can remember him
I’m a veteran but a novice on what you guys are talking about. If you had HALO qualifications back then, why would that not be a good idea for insertion? Assuming you could still have the air coverage you needed in case of contact.
