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Sol-Ark 12K Inverter - Six (6) Month Review 

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Sol-Ark 12k six month review. We live 100% off-grid and we were using the Sol-Ark 12k for 6 months with no problems.....until we got caught in the firmware update trap! Today we are sharing what happened, how we fixed it, and what we learned along the way...
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@bobmarshall7570
@bobmarshall7570 Год назад
Gotta love technology.....NOT! You guys are a candid reminder for everyone...."Simple doesn't mean easy"! Glad they final rolled back the firmware for you. Great videos, always so informative.
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
Thanks! Technology drives us absolutely crazy sometimes....but we are happy it seems to be working.
@derickvernon6652
@derickvernon6652 13 часов назад
I don't even know what your issue is. I have had a 12K for three years and they have always allowed me to Roll Back to any Firmware version to any version I want. I guess making a dramatic video about an easy to fix problem does generate revenue for you. BTW none of the HF Inverters like very high surge currents and massively imbalanced loads on the Legs. You need an LF Inverter for that but the reason you won't buy one is because you know they use tons of idle current, they are inefficient and the Firmware is typically outdated. You can't have your cake and eat it when it comes to Inverters. The Sol-Ark is definitely better than the EG4 18Kpv piece of crap my neighbor has. He tells me he has to update the Firmware every two weeks and is on the phone with customer support almost constantly. My Sol-Ark has given me Zero issues, it is more reliable than the Grid.
@keppypaul
@keppypaul Год назад
You guys have proved that Solark really screwed up and we also fear the systems upgrade conundrum.
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
It was definitely a screw up but it seems better and we hope it lasts. Updates definitely are a conundrum!!!
@icemaniiscott
@icemaniiscott 3 месяца назад
I was trying to decide between SolArk and EG4... this video makes me happy that I went with EG4... granted, I'm sure they have their problems as well. Thank you for sharing.
@rogerkahrau3168
@rogerkahrau3168 Год назад
David Poz had a similar problem. The problem is the Sol-Ark is basically two 120V connected in series to create 240V. Running a 240V piece of equipment applies 120V on each leg keeping the unit balanced. If you have two 3000W units on one leg you get 6000W on a leg only good for 4800W, results, shut down. The cure is installing a autotransformer. It helps balance the two legs. See David Poz video on why the Sol-Arc didn't work for me. It shows his problems and how he corrected the situation.
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
After you watch the full video you’ll see that we did reference David Poz because we did watch his video and our problems were a little different. However, after everything we tried, we did actually resolve our issue with solark and the saw works great with the inverter again 😊
@PlanePreacher
@PlanePreacher Год назад
Red poppy ranch had the same problem with unbalanced legs. The hair dryer would create too much of an imbalance and the unit would shut down.
@solarhomesteadinstalls
@solarhomesteadinstalls Месяц назад
When having 240v appliance 2 legs of 120v will be balance. Not an issue . It's single breakers could overload one side of a leg. All inverters are the same way unless you buy a 240v inverter ( Not made for USA power) and use a transformer stepdown 120/240. But those transformers add idling watts consumption. Easier to move breakers around to balance leg power. Or buy a larger inverter for your needs. Good thing is sol ark you can parallel units. The 12k sol ark is 9k max most homes need 12-18k output to run flawless.
@dougtravins9624
@dougtravins9624 Год назад
Even after doing all of your due diligence, and going off-grid, they still own you. Next, digital currency, door locks, car ignitions, etc. and they can shut you down at will. Didn't Amazon's Alexa just lock down some person's house because Alexa didn't like what someone in it said? Enter the new and scary A.I. world. Sorry about your power issues.
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
It does seem that way. We are just glad we don't keep anything connected to the internet because we heard that they do updates in the middle of the night and people wake up to problems. We don't update phones, computers or anything but I got talked into this one. Never again.Glad it seems to be working now...and yes, there was a story recently about Amazon shutting someones entire smart home down over a claim that turned out to be a total mistake!!! Crazy! and No thank you! Simple life....LOL
@coreyfinch5718
@coreyfinch5718 Год назад
Your issue is balancing between the two phases. The Solark uses a transformereless design, which makes it much more sensitive to unbalanced loading. The newer firmware must have increased the protection for unbalanced loading. If that saw was 240V, you'd have no issue. It's also kinda ironic that if you had more load on the other 120 leg while starting the saw, it would probably have no problem. Last note - you could add a balancing transformer between the output of the Solark and your load panel, which would make all loads appear as 240V loads to the Solark. They're not cheap, but it would completely remove the concern.
@meilyn22
@meilyn22 5 месяцев назад
Imagine spending 7k usd on an inverter, only to buy a transformer to solve your issues. Your comment might be right, but it isn't reasonable at all.
@coreyfinch5718
@coreyfinch5718 5 месяцев назад
@@meilyn22 I'm we'll aware of that, but they've already bought their inverter, and are probably stuck with it. The transformers aren't cheap but would cost far less than just outright replacing the inverter.
@meilyn22
@meilyn22 5 месяцев назад
@@coreyfinch5718 cost 0 to get it fixed! Should work the way they expected.
@RollingLiving
@RollingLiving Год назад
Thanks for sharing your experience. I've worked in tech support for a renewable energy company, so I understand that the support rep had a "script" she had to follow...steps to check, to make sure it wasn't their product. Those things would make sense if you had a new installation, but in your case you had a system that worked fine until the single change. So, I wouldn't give them too much credit for "great support" because if the rep had a good understanding of the system and product they should have skipped much of that needless testing in your case. I don't believe you ever exceeded the current limit of the inverter. I suspect that that the most recent firmware update had a change to (or the addition of) a ramp limit. That's a monitoring of the Delta (I'd put a triangle here, if I could)...the rate of change...and it's likely that the inverter's new firmware sensed the current climb rapidly from near-zero to the saw's inrush current and cut off the inverter because it anticipated a current climb that would exceed limits...even though that limit didn't get hit. I saw this exact issue in a wind turbine inverter firmware and a change to the ramp setting fixed the issue.
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
Thank you. I think that’s the best stated explanation yet and I agree wholeheartedly. That’s exactly how we felt about all the steps and tests (the script) but we wanted to continue our warranty so went along with it. We’re just really glad we’re back to working properly and as we expected when we purchased the unit.
@solarcharging9743
@solarcharging9743 11 месяцев назад
If you're after high surge capability, you should have purchased a low frequency, transformer based inverter instead of a high frequency, transformerless inverter. None of the high frequency, transformerless inverters on the market today, last very long. The MOSFETs and capacitors used in high frequency inverters simply cannot take repeated exposures to high surge loads such as full sized refrigerators, large power tools, portable AC units, or large microwave ovens. Without an iron core, copper wound transformer to absorb the back EMF and high surge demands of these high inductance loads, typically after a couple of year's worth of use these high frequency, transformerless inverters will become a non-repairable brick. You might be able to start and run some high surge loads when high frequency inverters are new but every time you fire up or shut down that inductive load, you're shortening the life of the MOSFETs in your these inverters. They also run much hotter than low frequency, transformer based inverters which makes the components such as capacitors, diodes, resistors and ICs that are used in high frequency inverters, far more prone to early failure. This is especially true regarding the amount of electro-mechanical wear on the inverter's capacitors. Inverters rely heavily on capacitors to provide a smooth power output at varying levels of current; however the electrolytic capacitors that are used in inverters have a limited lifespan and age much faster than dry components. Capacitors are also extremely sensitive to the high temperatures found in high frequency inverters. Capacitor electrolytes evaporate faster at higher temperatures which can reduce the life of these components. Another major consideration with high frequency, transformer free inverters is safety. All it takes is for one of the MOSFETs in the inverter's H-Bridge circuit to short to ground or the control circuitry to fail, and a high frequency inverter can send dangerous, high voltage, high amperage DC current straight to your connected AC loads which will not only damage most AC appliances but can also set those AC appliances on fire. Another consideration is that the vast majority of high frequency inverters are expensive to repair. At a typical shop rate of $125 per hour in the US, with no schematic and limited parts availability, it won't make economic sense to even attempt to repair one of these units. Once the FETs have fried and have taken the inverter's PCB with it, (And trust me, sooner rather than later, they will fry if exposed to high inductance loads.) they basically become a brick. A far better alternative is to invest a little more money and purchase a hybrid, low frequency, transformer based inverter charger. Your system will last far, far longer, it will run much cooler and can easily power high surge loads without being damaged.
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid 11 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for the info. Not much we can do now but we will definitely do something different in the future if and when the need arises.
@simonpaine2347
@simonpaine2347 Год назад
If Sol-Ark had any sense then they should send you a 15k and be done with it!
@muhdiversity7409
@muhdiversity7409 Год назад
I've had a Solark for 4 year this September and couldn't be happier. I upgraded the firmware recently because of trying to get the generator input working properly. Once I did that I had some weird solar input dropouts where one array of two would stop generating power - a problem I NEVER had before. I called them and was just gaslit by the support guy, I was so mad I considered replacing the thing but remembered the 6 months of hell I went thru before with all the other usual cheap Chinese inverters you see all over RU-vid. Needless to say that problem I was having went away shortly after my numerous emails complaining. Maybe they changed some setting, who knows? It has now gone back to being a reliable workhorse. I'm not upgrading any firmware unless at gunpoiint.
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
Wow. Sorry that happened. We agree though, why upgrade if it’s working fine?
@niffrig
@niffrig 11 месяцев назад
Just remember that SolArk are Deye inverters (cheap Chinese inverters) with custom SolArk firmware. The problem is the US firmware not the "cheap chinese" hardware
@scottlubsen9004
@scottlubsen9004 11 месяцев назад
Disconnect it from the internet.
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid 11 месяцев назад
@@scottlubsen9004 Only connected when it needed to be, otherwise NOT. We actually say that near the end of the video
@VitaliyHTC
@VitaliyHTC 10 месяцев назад
@@niffrig I think that FW actually the same on all of them (Deye, SolArk, SunSynk) Difference is in GUI part. But the base code is the same for all of them.
@franklong6269
@franklong6269 Год назад
Yeah, for your usage, the Sol-Ark 15K would have been a much better choice. It is made to run and entire house off-grid. You do mention that. Since part of the problem was Sol-Ark's fault, you should see if they will trade in your Sol-Ark 12K for the 15K and give you some credit for it. They may be amenable to that. I wish you the best with your off-grid home project.
@kevinmills5293
@kevinmills5293 Год назад
Agreed. It can’t hurt to ask.
@oakld
@oakld Год назад
I felt for your problems and I'm glad that you've been able to resolve them! I have myself a solar system for over a year, 5 KW on 240V (standard in Europe) and it was a pain all along until recently. Something wasn't right from the beginning... To cut my story short, after two claims I got a new hybrid inverter unit and now is all great :-). But I feel that unless one pays a big bug for a proven American or German brand, it's a bit of gamble. I overpaid for the unit quite a lot by buying it from a local distributor (as opposed to Amazon and alike), but at least I have functional tech support and reliable 2 year warranty.
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
Glad it worked out for you. Interesting that you only use 240,…it’s how the inverter works with both 240 and 120 at the same time that confuses us the most
@michaelriddick7116
@michaelriddick7116 Год назад
I work IT and as soon as I heard "firmware update" I visibily cringed :(
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
Yup, fool am I....just glad they fixed it somehow
@michaelriddick7116
@michaelriddick7116 Год назад
@@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid The number of times I've seen updates go heinously wrong like that is astounding, and Im thrilled youre back up and running but they didnt fix it (not to be a stickler). They rolled you back. Its sad that thats what was required :( now you're stuck at that firmware version and cant move forward until they either A: Figure whats causing the problem and patch it or B: That firmware update gets superceded by a newer one that doesnt cause the problem ... the nightmare now is the possibility that that later version causes the same issue. Since they could only go back one revision, once you get the newest patch (and since this last patch will probably be required) you could only roll back as far as the firmware that introduced the problem to begin with 🥺😢 if thats happens youre hosed until they figure out the issue. This is akin to rebooting a computer. You dont "fix" the problem with a reboot, you just change the computers state :/ Only now you dont know what happened to cause the condition in the first place. I really hope they take that problem seriously and dig into that revision to figure out WTH is going on :(
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
True, it’s not fixed and we’re stuck here…. Didn’t think about it that way but you’re 100% right
@michaelriddick7116
@michaelriddick7116 Год назад
@@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid Good luck! Dont cease contact with their support until they figure it out.
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
@@michaelriddick7116 we won't, thank you. Their support was actually excellent so far
@randacnam7321
@randacnam7321 Год назад
The fact that the chopsaw didn't trip the inverter when you were already pulling a few kW of load suggests that the new buggy firmware pukes when it sees a sudden surge from a low load condition, the inverter control loops being better able to handle a surge when they're already dealing with a big load.
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
Yes. That makes sense!
@jamestown12345
@jamestown12345 Год назад
yeah, I suspect if they had a decent load on the other leg it wouldn't have tripped
@randacnam7321
@randacnam7321 8 месяцев назад
@@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid What may have caused it is if Sol-Ark didn't update your inverter properly and just pushed the latest software/firmware revision without doing the intermediate updates first. Any new dependencies introduced by the intermediate revs that are referenced by the newest firmware can and will break things iffen they aren't there when the firmware expects them to be there.
@budchestnut9303
@budchestnut9303 Год назад
The protection algorithm in the Sol-Ark is probably set for detecting an overcurrent NO MATTER what the duration. The saw probably has a very fast (microseconds) transient that the software sees but the meters may not have time to display. The software engineers at Sol-Ark need to build some "pad" into their protection and they need to adapt their software so it CAN display very short peaks of current. The peak current from an electric motor can vary from small to 2 or 3 time the rated NOMINAL amps. Sol-Ark needs to go back to the code. Circuit breakers are much slower than a fast transient and would not always or even often trip. I am an EE.
@rcinfla9017
@rcinfla9017 11 месяцев назад
It is not just the amps surge. It is also the inductive component of the surge current. With saw motor startup there is a highly inductive current which the inverter has trouble with. It can damage inverter. The inverter's maximum current ratings are based on resistive loads like an electric heater. A motor's inductive surge can cause a voltage overshoot spike on the inverter's internal high voltage DC supply. There is a large bank of 14 capacitors for high voltage DC filtering that get stressed with voltage overshoot. The new firmware likely changed the protection against inductive surge current reducing the amount of allowed HV DC overshoot inside the inverter. Buy a $15 'Kill-A-Watt' meter and check the power factor of the saw. A power factor of less than 0.8 gets into troublesome area. During startup the power factor is worse than run power factor.
@garypic4083
@garypic4083 Год назад
Glad you got it running, things like this make people shy away from Solar
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
So true. But we honestly had no problems until the update!
@GadgetReviewVideos
@GadgetReviewVideos 3 месяца назад
Although it does concern me that a firmware update completely changed the usage of this inverter. But I still want to point out that inrush current is different from what. you measured. The clamp meter you have doesn’t do inrush current. You would have to buy the AstroAI Inrush Digital Clamp Meter Multimeter 1000A or another branch that specifically say it can do inrush. Thanks for the video, more research to do as this was one of two inverters I was considering. FYI, I also noticed the imbalance between L1 and L2 and this has caused Sol Arc to shutdown with some. Some have fixed this with an auto transformer and that might fix your issues as well.
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid 2 месяца назад
Thanks for the info!
@whatthefunction9140
@whatthefunction9140 9 месяцев назад
Breakers are pretty slow to react.
@kurtmaxberry7025
@kurtmaxberry7025 Месяц назад
It’s not the inverter is the saw. The arc the bushing causes it to short. Arc crack
@RCAFpolarexpress
@RCAFpolarexpress Год назад
Good Morning To Both Of You 👌👍😇🌞I think you are suffering of a post trauma electric solar panel systems 🤣👌👍Keep Up Your OUTSTANDING Team Work and Sense Of Humor 👍👍👌👌😇😇Cheers 🍻🍻
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
LOL thats awesome but it really was a tough couple of weeks trying to build here...never a dull moment!
@DurwinCobeen
@DurwinCobeen Год назад
This is why Schneider inverters are the best in America. I have 2 5k all in one Growatt US version inverters. I can spike to 12kw for 10 seconds I they do not cut off. Schneider is the best but I didn't have Schneider money. What you spent Schneider was the way to go.
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
We are definitely sorry we didn’t understand it all better, however it is working well for us again now. This had the charge controller inside, Schneider needed us to buy one. This just seemed like it was a simple ‘plug and play’ which it was, and it was working great until the update. We probably wouldn’t have ever learned we only get 4500-4800 watts for 120 if not for the update… what’s done is done I guess
@jstaffordii
@jstaffordii Год назад
Or Victron. "Expensive things come in pretty little blue boxes"~Tiffany's
@lorencolt
@lorencolt Год назад
I went through a similar thing with Harvest Right freeze dryers. It was to the point I was going to have to send it in. I lucked out and had the basic programing on a stick, I had to clear it and reinstall it and it has been fine ever since. But that was after a month of trying different programs, and they didn't want to give me the basic program back.
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
Definitely tough when you have to fight the fight to make things right. One of those freeze dryers is on our list of future wants!
@lorencolt
@lorencolt Год назад
@@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid If you get one and need help just get in touch with me.
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
We will! Thank you 👍
@AndrewCharnley
@AndrewCharnley 9 месяцев назад
The reason they will never want to do that if they can help is, they do not have the capacity to manage their support services on a different version for all of their customers. I had a software company and we had to have our customers (Banks to manufacturers and much more in the city of London) on the same software version as it included all updates, changes and improvements to the application software and of cours glitches that occurred with our customers proving and supplying their issues through our support centre. It would be a nightmare to not do otherwise. So the Solar Inverter company would need to provide fast solutions and have a means that connects to your smart phone that is in turn connected to their inverter for remote 'fixes' by their support staff. This should be their big sales pitch...we support you online 24/7 as these systems are about life and death in the winters of the northern nations. I live in the Caribbean but my a/c is critical as an oxygen tank for me...
@thomasharrison899
@thomasharrison899 Год назад
Sol Ark inverters are famous for having issues with 120 inductive loads. I've seen many video's where this happened to folks. I personally went with Schneider after having never ending issues with cheaper inverters.
@JoseOPerezRuiz
@JoseOPerezRuiz 11 месяцев назад
The problem with Sol-Ark is that it don't like unbalance high inductive load. Solution Dry transformer with H1-H3 jumpers on the primary and X2-X3 jumper on the secondary. Feed the transf. from a 240Vac 20Amp Breaker to H1 & H4 Then from secondary X4 to Neutral and X1 to 120Vac Use this output for inductive loads Saws, Pumps, Garage Doors an so on.
@kennethalmond8922
@kennethalmond8922 Год назад
As a 5 yrs (and counting) off-grid solar system operator, it's painful to see you have to go thru such a long list of 'tasks' that you shouldn't have had to do. Seems like a system this expensive should have a way to record what caused the error within it's firmware - so you don't have to do hit/miss diagnosis. Also, I don't upgrade firmware as long as I can avoid it / things are working and this episode illustrates why. Enjoyed following you're build to this point and thank you for all the really inspirational vids!
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
We said the same thing but apparently it only records every 5 minutes so if it wasn’t at that exact moment it misses it. Absolutely ridiculous and we won’t be doing anymore updates. Definitely wouldn’t recommend this to a anyone for off grid use
@deborahwhite2339
@deborahwhite2339 Год назад
It doesn't sound like they were 100% clear on specs or something? I wondered if the update damaged something in the inverter or was the update designed to put a max on voltage/watts /amps? I think i like on grid power wise. I am in a rural N.S. forward thinking town. 3 towns partnered up and co-own hydro, wind and solar installations. So i believe we are 80+ ish % renewable. I will have to look it up. When you are out in the stix you are on your own without cost sharing etc. I can't wait to see what's next. 🙂👍👍👍🇨🇦⚡
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
Appreciate that. Specs were definitely confusing to us since we aren’t electricians, just everyday people. Oh, and your town sounds pretty awesome!
@someOneYouKnow6506
@someOneYouKnow6506 Год назад
time to get a schneider xw pro :)
@Do_the_Dishes
@Do_the_Dishes 4 месяца назад
First rule for mechanical, electrical systems: If it works, don’t fix it.
@thomasbrown5005
@thomasbrown5005 Год назад
Wow, sorry to see you go through all of this. Hopefully everything works out for you
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
Thanks. so far so good....and it has been about a week.
@davidrenaldo2252
@davidrenaldo2252 Год назад
I would have lost my mind lol but at least it’s working again
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
I kind of did for a while there....but that is one of the reasons we believe in redundancy...backup to the backup to the backup because you never know!
@davidrenaldo2252
@davidrenaldo2252 Год назад
How far past your original time to be finished have you run?
@davidrenaldo2252
@davidrenaldo2252 Год назад
I’m sure you don’t let people know where you are for privacy reasons but we will be up again next week for ten days I’m curious is if you would allow someone to come and visit and see your home and your progress
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
Too far but over a year right now! And message us through Facebook if you can
@saeidmofrad6276
@saeidmofrad6276 6 месяцев назад
As noted in some previous comments, I recommend adding an auto-transformer to your SolArk split-phase inverter to help even out the load. In the video, I noticed a significant difference between L1 and L2 in some settings. This makes it hard to get the most out of your inverter because there's often 120V equipment on one side that throws off the balance, leading to the inverter shutting down. Since your inverter doesn't have built-in load balancing due to its transformerless type, installing a split-phase auto-transformer could help distribute the load more evenly between L1 and L2.
@defjamsgreen
@defjamsgreen Год назад
David Poz and many others did a video about this Solark inverter that be doing the same exact thing . Check out David Pos and there may be a solution to this , maybe even getting a low frequency inverter transformer based inverter will handle large surges better 😊😊then an expensive high frequency inverter . May the solar be with you .
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
We actually spoke about David poz in the video because his issue was a little different than ours. But we appreciate the suggestion 👍😊
@anthonytorres5714
@anthonytorres5714 Год назад
If David Pos had replaced the MCU board with a HW 1.2 board, his problem would have gone away too. It is very frustrating I know. Imagine how excited I was to see this problem on 24 units. 😢 This is an easy fix. Turn off the system, remove and replace the board, power it on, update the firmware, and you are done. 😃
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
We’re definitely looking into this again. Thanks
@williambenedito1305
@williambenedito1305 Год назад
Hello I had the same problem. Was not happy with my sol-ark. I put a Growatt transformer, and i haven't had that problem any more. In your case would get the 11.4k transformer. From signature solar. Good luck. Great video
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
Thanks. Will definitely look into it👍
@johnmal5975
@johnmal5975 Год назад
One the reasons I bought my Pecron portable solar generator was because it doesn't have wifi so no firmware updates. To many bad memory's of when I used to use Windows. Lol Great video. You guys have the patience of saints. I would have been not so nice to the girl on the phone. You paid 7 grand you should get what you paid for.
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
We have those same windows memories! Lol. Anyhow, we aren’t connected unless we choose too. There’s a dongle that plugs into the side. You can see it blinking red on the left side of the router in some of the video I think, but mostly it’s not. We never keep connected. We have a small solar generator as well but have never connected it to WiFi either. It was a lot of money and we’re definitely disappointed, but it was working great for the first six months. So far we are good and haven’t shut down since the rollback
@cranedaddy678
@cranedaddy678 Год назад
You guys bought the wrong inverter. You need a low frequency inverter like a Schneider for your use and you bought a HF inverter (Sol-Ark). The Sol-Ark is a great inverter, but you are using it in the worst possible way you could. Imagine you bought a car for long road trips that is great for everything you could dream of, checks every box on your list, except it has the worst MPG of all cars.. That's what you did with solar inverters. I own a 12k sol-ark. Had a firmware issue similar to yours. Customer support ended up reversing my firmware to the original version to fix my issue and I never updated again. Customer support even called me after a few days (unprompted) to make sure my issues were gone! Surge loads are the one thing sol--ark isn't good at. Maybe naming products also since you're right, the 12k should really be called a 9k.
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
We honestly don’t understand the difference between a high frequency and low frequency inverter, we just know most appliances are about 60 hz…your analogy was good. We’re starting to think we we were very misled. We were originally going to go with Schneider MidNite set up but this was rated to be better at the time
@randacnam7321
@randacnam7321 Год назад
@@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid Low frequency means there is a transformer in the inverter that runs at the AC line frequency directly. High frequency means there is a DC switching power supply in the inverter that generates 200VDC to 500VDC depending on topology and output potential; this DC is then chopped up (pulse width modulated is the highfalutin' sciency big word term) at tens of thousands of cycles per second and then filtered to yield the AC line frequency. High frequency inverters are smaller for a given power but are much trickier to make handle surges.
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
Thank you for explaining. It does make a difference
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
@@randacnam7321 I just did a little research on the low frequency and it said that this isn't good for certain electrical products....thinking computers, routers, and smart tv's....do you know anything about that?
@randacnam7321
@randacnam7321 Год назад
@@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid Your source is confusing modified square wave/modified sine wave inverters with low/utility frequency transformer inverters.
@SeniorHiker77
@SeniorHiker77 Год назад
Wow I don't think I woukd have that kind of patience.
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
LOL, I guess sometimes you do what you have to do! Thanks for watching :-) Headed to your channel to do some catching up!
@BenHannon-k8t
@BenHannon-k8t 3 месяца назад
Just another thought. What is the lenth and awg of the extension cord being used to power the chop saw? Looks a little on the thin side which would add to your current load.
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid 2 месяца назад
Thanks, we did check that and even tried using No extension cord at all… made no difference
@coreydean9277
@coreydean9277 Год назад
I have yet to do a firmware update on any of my solar equipment. I run a 6kw Sun Gold Power split phase. I have no problem with overload. THe worst thing I have to throw at it is the my big air compressor. It handles it just fine. I then decided to try my 2.4 kw MPP Solar and it never shut down either. I hope Solark get this fixed for you quickly.
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
Thanks. Your system sounds good. Sol ark did get us working again.. hopefully it lasts. Cost too much to play games
@creamshop
@creamshop Год назад
I have 4 x Sungoldpower model tp6048 low frequency inverter in parallel, the low frequency is able to start a 24000btu and a 18000btu minisplit without any soft start, my hot water tank and my 2 freezers and refrigerator and still have plenty of power for anything i can throw at it like hair dryers, electric kettle and air fryer
@kevinmills5293
@kevinmills5293 Год назад
Not a fan of SolArk. There’re several YT videos showing the limitations and it seems you’ve now discovered the truth with this “12k” inverter. For surge performance, the Schneider inverter is far superior. With the SolArk, I’d be looking to change the chop saw and any other high surge devices for 240v models.
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
No need to change the tools, they work the way they should again 👍they finally fixed it but they really do need to get this fixed
@kevinmills5293
@kevinmills5293 Год назад
@@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid you mentioned the warranty would be void without the updates which suggests to me the output was de rated to protect the unit. Also, a power washer or electric welder will, I suspect, be a challenge for just one leg (120v).
@HippocratesGarden
@HippocratesGarden Год назад
Great knowledge. I'm not going to have near the loads for some time, but when I ordered my system (which is yet to be installed, after almost a year, because of.. .well, life) I did the Victron dual 10K Quattro's.
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
Sounds like you’re going to be good to go with that system! Ours sat around for 7 months before we installed it. Our fingers were crossed but it was working great for 6 months 👍
@kevinmills5293
@kevinmills5293 Год назад
I’ve a 5k Quattro and despite a lot of abuse it has not once quit in the 14 years we’ve had it.
@HermanWillems
@HermanWillems 3 месяца назад
@@kevinmills5293 LV systems are oldfasioned. Victron should really go into HV.
@jstaffordii
@jstaffordii Год назад
It's tripping due to leg imbalance of the surge load. Saw surged leg 1 to 30.57 amps while leg 2 was at 1.2 amps. Bad firmware parameter causing shutdown fault
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
That does make sense. Thanks 👍
@georgeschneider8778
@georgeschneider8778 Год назад
I highly doubt 12k inverter is enough for your house. Maybe you need to add another 12k inverter or just get the 15k. If I want to go off grid, I think the best option now is the sol ark 30k.
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
It’s enough for now, only because we carefully chose every appliance for its efficiency. Thank goodness we did that though because otherwise we’d have some serious issues with how misled we were by the company who sold it to us!
@Emotional_14u
@Emotional_14u 11 месяцев назад
Solark used your current home setup to test the firmware upgrade. All that nonsense they had you do was to record the results with the programmers and engineers in the company. Essentially, they made you an employee of the company to run tests on the firmware. Crazy!!
@lnostdal
@lnostdal 9 месяцев назад
As a software engineer, I can confirm that we sometimes do this. :shrug: Google does it at a massive scale; a variant of it is called A/B testing.
@mikeeilers4549
@mikeeilers4549 8 месяцев назад
Rich & Cathy, I have a 12k and am experiencing the same problems. I have not requested a firmware rollback but considering it. Based on the comments, it appears one solution that resolve several issues would be to install a transformer. This appears to solve this issue and protect the system from the other issues mentioned in the comments. What do you think? Thanks for your video! Mike from Fbg, TX
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid 8 месяцев назад
Sorry to hear that. We purchased the unit and it was working exactly as we expected for six months. The updates were what caused a problem for us. Once they rolled it back we haven’t had any problems. Everything is now back to working as we expected when we purchased it so buying a transformer isn’t necessary.
@benssolarandbattery
@benssolarandbattery Год назад
I have a spare 12k laying on the floor because it kept shutting down. Mine was the older version. I've been using a Schneider XW Pro now for a while and haven't been able to shut it down yet. Make sure they put you on the "do not update" list!
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
Good to know! We were or I going with the Schneider but then talked into this one… hindsight… and thank goodness we aren’t connected to the internet with it so we put ourselves on that list!
@itmagic4377
@itmagic4377 Месяц назад
Take a look at David Poz's history with Sol Arc. Ordering Schneider inverters that have true 30 minute or 60 seconds surge capability. So sorry you guys are having problems 🙏 Wish you the very best.
@tinbarnranch
@tinbarnranch Год назад
Great vid. I have EXACTLY the same issue. Like you, I'm also off grid. My saw is a Makita. Also found what you did when trying my well pump first go. Had to purchase soft starter to make it work. Max amp draw was 36.5. Should have worked, but it didn't. Go the same run around from Sol Ark. Really wish they would own up to their mistakes instead of putting it on the customer. I'm building as well and don't have time to screw with their excuses. I just went directly to a genny to run my power tools.
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
Sorry to hear that! We purchased it knowing it had a 66 amp surge for 10 sec. which is way more than enough to start the saw. And again, the saw was working exactly as we expected until the second update… it’s definitely s problem solark needs to address
@tinbarnranch
@tinbarnranch Год назад
@@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid Yea if only. All I got from them was a run around. Excuses, try this, try that.
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
That’s totally unacceptable, these aren’t cheap’
@cooltrkin
@cooltrkin 11 месяцев назад
Wow I'm glad I seen this ,time to reevaluate what I was going to do. It's junk, the company is very bad. Junk SUNGOLD SOLAR FAR BETTER Two 6500s 2700.00
@JohnF732
@JohnF732 5 месяцев назад
FWIW, I have a Schneider XW Pro 6848 and it has no problem at all starting big compressors, saws, etc and handling L1/L2 mis-balances. Its a monster. BUT, their firmware is quirky and occasionally erratic, the inverter has a habit of needing reset to factory defaults and reconfigured from scratch every few months, and the tech support is marginal at best. I guess we all can pick our poison...
@Madsci-zy8wm
@Madsci-zy8wm 7 месяцев назад
US Customs records for Ningbo Deye Inverter Technology, a supplier based in China. shows 266 container sized shipments to Portable Solar Llc Dba Sol-ark Llc in Allen, Texas. I thought Sol-Ark has been claiming for years that their inverters are made in the U.S.A. Have they been misleading us all this time?
@benwhittle7204
@benwhittle7204 4 месяца назад
Inrush current is not the same as continuous use current! It won't necessarily pop that 20A breaker! Inrush current can be HUNDREDS of amps, but only for a fraction of a second! That will not necessarily pop the breaker! And can be so instantaneous that you probably won't see the peak at all on the display, or even if you catch _something_ on the display, it might still not be the peak. Clearly, something changed in the firmware on the Sol-Ark or your batteries that might have changed inrush current limitations or how they handle it.
@drunk_astronomy
@drunk_astronomy 9 месяцев назад
I’ve always felt Sol-Ark is overrated. If you want serious muscle in an inverter, I always recommend Schneider. Plus I’ve seen EG4 inverters start loads that would trip up a Sol-Ark. Go figure.
@narsshop4981
@narsshop4981 Год назад
In the Philippines I have 7 Deye 5kw Hybrid Inverter in parallel charging 12 pcs of 200 amp hour Lifepo4 and no problem, load during the day 10kw to 15kw. Each cost around 55,000 pesos or $1000 = $7,000 For the price of one Sol Ark 15KW $7,000. I use Victron Autotransformer For split phase balancing cause in a power failure the Deye puts out single phase 220 since I use 110 volts tools and Kurig coffee maker from the US, Victron Autotransformer corrects the 220 to split phase. Sol Ark is Deye
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
Interesting!! Thanks so much for sharing 👍
@drewbond1
@drewbond1 Год назад
Good to see all the testing "science"
@kickgas7171
@kickgas7171 10 месяцев назад
This is a prime example as to why consumers should stay away from any brand of high frequency, transformerless inverter. They offer poor surge ratings, and they have short life expectancies. A much better choice would be to purchase a hybrid, low frequency, transformer based inverter charger. They last far, far longer and offer considerably more surge capacity. I would never i stall a high frequency, transformerless inverter in my home, even if it was free.
@flyingjeff1984
@flyingjeff1984 5 месяцев назад
20 amp breaker takes a while to 'kick'. Minutes, sometimes. A software 'breaker' can easily detect inrush. A 20 amp breaker can't.
@jrherita
@jrherita 10 месяцев назад
16:01 Youre axtually not over 40 amps in total (240V) youre at about 27A on one leg and 13A on the orher, meaning your max draw is 27A as rhe inverter sees it. The challenge for batteries and inverters are the difference between the two, not the total. I like tbis video thiugh. Goid troubleshooting.
@NewLightEnergy
@NewLightEnergy Год назад
Great work on working through it all. Frustrating to watch even but good on ya. Schneider XWpro 6848 have the transformer and are able to take 6,800 constant, 8,500 for 30min 11,000 for 5min and 12,000 for 30sec capable on one leg so even unbalanced keep truck’in. They are little beasts. Long life and no nightmare.
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
That was our first choice but then they switched to this one as part of the kit because it was supposed to be the top of the line at the time.
@NewLightEnergy
@NewLightEnergy Год назад
@@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid it was very difficult to make the call on which to go with for sure. Your property sounds super awesome.
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
@@NewLightEnergy Very true and thank you, we really appreciate that!
@bearupfarm1818
@bearupfarm1818 11 месяцев назад
Solar ark is junk. I watched the XW Pro VS Solar Ark . Other people dumped their solar ark just because of their problem
@ChuckD59
@ChuckD59 Год назад
Thanks for the videos guys, from a long-time ADKer (60 yrs?) I've just signed a contract for an 18kw array, Enphase/Q Cell battery system, and I'm taking notes for my first meeting with the Project Manager. Just added: Ask how firmware/software updates are handled, and is there a solid back-out plan in case of failure? I'm retired from a 25 year, very technical, IT career. I've done a few firmware updates and the vast, vast majority of them are successful, and are important. But you need to have a solid process for saving the configurations and restoring them if needed. It's brain surgery and failures can be fatal. Rock on!
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
That’s going to be a great system👍 and I agree about updates but unfortunately our experience with phones and computers has been more negative than positive.
@bobgubman4403
@bobgubman4403 6 месяцев назад
I've been running enphase IQ7s,then IQ8s since Nov. 2021. Imbalance was simply a non issue. House wall wiring remained the same after installation. To date system has produced 20.87MWh. Updates can be done by the installer or enphase (automatically). Over the years have received many upgrades without any issues, to date.
@tinkering_solar_guy
@tinkering_solar_guy 2 месяца назад
What are the firmware versions that you have on the 12K now with it working? If you don't mind, I would like to know the MCU version as well as the comms version. (I'm sure you know this, but those versions can be found in the first menu page after tapping the gear icon from the home screen.)
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid 2 месяца назад
The problem version for us was the 6222 and when they rolled me back it went to the 6983 version we are currently running.
@tinkering_solar_guy
@tinkering_solar_guy 2 месяца назад
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid OK, thank you for that info. What about the comms version? Are you currently running 143F? Or is the comms version older as well? Just yesterday we upgraded a customer's system to a Sol-Ark 15k because of the 12k overloading. I'd like to change firmware on it to exactly what you are running and test it at our shop to see if that fixed the issue.
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid 2 месяца назад
1430-0717 is the coms we are running. Interested in knowing what you learn please
@tinkering_solar_guy
@tinkering_solar_guy 2 месяца назад
Ok, thanks! And sure thing, I'll comment back here on that!
@DisabilityPCTech
@DisabilityPCTech Год назад
In reality the superior method is to make sure you have a balance load from your 120/240 volt AC electrical panel. Use your ampere meter on both power legs - - - | - - - If amperage load is higher on one side of the panel than the other >> redistribute load wiring between breakers to balance the load amperage evenly
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
Looking into that… 👍
@EastyUK
@EastyUK Год назад
It’s probably in balance on your legs, if you have very little load on one leg and peak on the other solark is sensitive. You can use an auto transformer and plug 110v high load tools into that and it’ll balance out the load between the legs. I do that for compressor and it works well but not convenient if you want to use tools at various places.
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
I’ll look into this. Thanks for sharing 👍
@blainecelestaine4543
@blainecelestaine4543 4 месяца назад
Love the way it becomes your problem to figure it out. Instead of SolArk fixing it or replacing it immediately.
@nb117
@nb117 Год назад
You have all or most of your loads on one leg. Balance your load in the panel and this will stop regardless of firmware. You can also install an Auto Transformer $300. Stay away from Growatt. The 18k PV eg4 is good.
@USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity
@USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity Год назад
Buy a low frequency inverter from Schneider or Victron if you want to build a house or run high inrush loads. It’s not rocket science.
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
No, it’s not. It’s 💰😁 and FYI, it’s back to working exactly as planned. We are building our home and running everything with no more problems as we did for 6 months and as expected when purchased based on their specs.
@USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity
@USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity Год назад
@@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid good to hear. 18 mo on my two. Tried going cheap for my shop. Lasted one month. Going Schneider now.
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
Sorry to hear that. Hope the new one works great👍
@vinny143
@vinny143 8 месяцев назад
When a b m s on a lithium battery senses full charge , it shuts the battery off.... So unless you're solar Panels are already drawing in the power needed to run the saw ,, the system will shut down
@CyberDocUSA
@CyberDocUSA Год назад
Hey guys, sorry you're going through such an electro-nightmare. Is there any way Sol Ark can just dial-back the firmware update and restore it back to what was working? Be well. Edit: (never mind - I asked the question before reaching the end of your video and you answered).
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
We asked to roll it back right away but I guess they needed to know it was the firmware and not the saw
@CyberDocUSA
@CyberDocUSA Год назад
@@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid, some will always resist admitting fault.
@andrewyang1446
@andrewyang1446 3 месяца назад
Sol Ark does not like this video, and they should learn from it. Was thinking of Sol Ark 30k but noooo.
@wilburlin259
@wilburlin259 2 месяца назад
somebody should have told you to get a soft start
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid 2 месяца назад
We’ll pump us a soft start but already had the saw👍
@howiegrapek
@howiegrapek Год назад
Hey Rich, I've learned a bit (and have been mildly entertained :)) )while watching your journey..... You are correct, in the grand scheme of things, 300watts doesn't seem like much, but it does add up. Keep it up, looks like a great place, and I'm sure it will work out in the long run. Firmware is always tricky, as an engineer myself, I strongly believe "if it ain't broke, don't upgrade". The vendor will always say, bring it to the most current for warranty purposes, but ... well, that's all I have to say about that. FYI, had a similar issue and learned all about inductive loads with my well pump and the in-rush current with my previous system (It was an older Growatt all in one). It helps having the correct tools and understanding the value of in-rush loads. AC compressors, well pumps, other motors all have this issue. Soft-starts help a bunch. I do love the Sol-Ark suite of products... decided to go with the 15k unit for a few reasons... First,. I can use the 200 amp ATX and completely get rid of the Generac ATX. That's cool. Additionally, as it has a 200 amp transfer switch, I can use it to power the whole house instead of needing a critical loads panel. If I do decide to grid-tie (which I'm not going to do at the moment), it will work well and I can sell the extra back to the power company. But the extra power (15k vs 12k) was the biggest reason, and the price difference was insignificant. I realize the new 15k is new, and wasn't available when you made your decisions, and to upgrade to it may be a challenge, but you might give it a thought. it does handle much larger inductive loads/in-rush currents. Cheers, keep up the good work on your homestead!
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
Appreciate that. It definitely does seem like the 15 k would be better , but now that they rolled back the firmware update were back to operating the way we planned. We really did buy all our electronics knowing we were off-grid - including the softstart well pump. We were aware of inrush currents and knew the 12k had a 66 amp surge for 10 seconds which seemed like enough and was enough until the update. We planned everything ahead of time using Solarks stated parameters. Somehow the firmware update changed those parameters which is not ok and not fair to those who bought it and planned everything based on those parameters as we did. We really appreciate all your support!
@83kaszas
@83kaszas 11 месяцев назад
Change it to Victron equipment,and all these problems will disapear.
@ben54322
@ben54322 5 месяцев назад
Guy did all the troubleshooting and quality of service for the inverter. I hope he got compensated for that issue that started with a bad firmware from arc.
@ronaldkovacs7080
@ronaldkovacs7080 Год назад
Could be more of a power factor issue with the saw not so much as an overload. Using a heater is a resistive load with a unity power factor and would not duplicate the issue with the inductive load (Saw motor). Either way, unless there was an issue with the old firmware mfr should not have made this change.
@samfish6938
@samfish6938 11 месяцев назад
FROM OTHER SITES ITS UNBALANCED LOAD THE FAULT SHOUD SHOW 26 OR 27 NOT WHAT IT DOES SHOW,IF THE LOADS ARE NOT BALANCED ON EACH BUS BAR IT SHUTS OFF AS ITS NOT A TRANSFORMER INVERTER A FEW PEOPLE HAVE HAD THE PROBLEM,I WONDER COULD YOU BUY PORTABLE SOLAR GENERATOR FOR SAW
@dinobernardi170
@dinobernardi170 Месяц назад
Was thinking bout Solark....not. How come Solark isnt calling you, knowing that you're having issues. Na I'll pass. Sounded like customer service was troubl shooting out of a manual. Nope not for me!!
@GusTulsa
@GusTulsa 18 дней назад
Sol-Ark Support is great! The lady who was helping them genuinely cared for their situation, and I think that counts a lot.
@DanBurgaud
@DanBurgaud 3 месяца назад
Split phase is the problem. You need an inverter that is truly built for split phase.
@DmitriyKhazansky
@DmitriyKhazansky 3 месяца назад
The nameplate rating is what the unit is tested to, regardless of what she says on the phone. The unit is rated as follows: single phase 120V rating is PER LEG, so if you only load up one of your phases, it should be able to handle 4800W continuously (indefinitely, assuming 0W on the other phase). If you’re using both phases, then it’s rated to 9000W total with no more than half of that (4500W) per phase. I’ve had the same unit for years and tested it running about 8000W before I ran out loads to add. And I’m pretty sure I’m on the original firmware as I’ve never asked them for an update.
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid 2 месяца назад
Nice! Thank you 👍
@bluetrepidation
@bluetrepidation Год назад
What firmware did you roll back to? I have the same inverter with the same issue.
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
Currently running MCU 6983
@bluetrepidation
@bluetrepidation Год назад
@@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid thank you!
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
Very welcome
@robertfallows1054
@robertfallows1054 6 месяцев назад
Sometimes when talking to customer service no matter who it feels like you’re educating them rather than the other way around
@mahendragomanie4488
@mahendragomanie4488 Год назад
Sol ark initially had issues with surges and leg imbalances, I though the solved that issue
@registrationhater
@registrationhater 8 месяцев назад
Inrush current is usually measured in milliseconds. Shouldn't even be an issue
@photorealm
@photorealm Год назад
That dreadful beep on inverters is like the blue screen of death on Windows. You have a bad day (sometimes week) every time that happens. I have had new firmware mess things up before but nothing as vital as this example. Interesting that 3k watts is lost to charging, they don't mention that often.
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
The blue screen brings back bad memories 😁
@anthonyzarcone8696
@anthonyzarcone8696 10 месяцев назад
Hi if you can get ahold of bill at milestone solar in w.v hes is an expert on theses issues , not sure if he charges for advice.
@creamshop
@creamshop Год назад
12k is not, its like saying you have a race car that has 1200hp on all 4 wheels but its actualy 900hp forward and 300 hp in reverse and only 480hp for rear wheel traction only, its misleading at best
@EastyUK
@EastyUK Год назад
12k is not the power output, it’s the pv input max, it’s more if you use ac coupling also, it’s load output it 9kw from dc. Ac coupling will extend that max load. It’s clear on the spec sheet.
@KaceyGreen
@KaceyGreen Год назад
I love updating the firmware on all my stuff, but do like someone else to go first if I don't have a test/backup or trial system of my own
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
Lol. Smart
@TKO67
@TKO67 7 месяцев назад
Sol-ark works great for me,
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid 7 месяцев назад
Working great for us too👍
@somejerk707
@somejerk707 11 месяцев назад
Got an aimes 6000w , 240/120v for a 24v system weight is about 90 lbs heavy duty marine rated. Could run with another in parallel to get 12k continuous. No updates or computer programming. Been running solid daily 7 years. Simple is better.
@jameshoff9435
@jameshoff9435 10 месяцев назад
What is the wire size to the power tools ? If there is ANY 14g wire.... Remove it. Even the extension cords. The imbalance in the SolArcs 120v VS 120v (1/2 of 240) is to great. The updates appeared to have made the unit more sensitive to the differences. 09;45, Did we see arc spin around the Dewalt motors armature? If so, that not a good sign. There maybe several factors at play here. Run the saw and another load at the same time ON the other leg of the 240 to keep the draw a bit more balanced. Davids link is good. I think David is very clear on some flaw that may need worked on by SA.
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid 10 месяцев назад
It’s all 10 so we’re good👍 thanks
@JamesG1126
@JamesG1126 9 месяцев назад
Was considering Sol Ark. Now I'm not.
@SkyCharter
@SkyCharter Месяц назад
This video was eye opening. I'm considering the 15k and now even more. Great details on a thorny problem. Thanks!
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid Месяц назад
Glad it was helpful! We would definitely recommend the 15 k, we would have but this was the best they offered when we purchased. We will be doing a full 2 year review soon!
@johnwyman6126
@johnwyman6126 Год назад
Oh brother, sounds like they're taking lessons from apple. These folks have only been around for a few years. In case you decide to throw in the towel with these folks, Outback has been making extremely high quality inverters since at least the 1990's
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
Lol. Yes, I never update any of my apple products either! Learned the hard way 😂
@BeastMovies
@BeastMovies Год назад
So you've got a 5000watt inverter. You could've bought 5x5000watt growatt inverters and had power to spare plus backup inverters in the case 1 failed. This fails and no power for you.
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
Exactly. We are looking into a bypass switch for the generator just in case… then we would at least could have the 14k geny run the house in an emergency.
@SeleneHammer-pn8hr
@SeleneHammer-pn8hr Год назад
Sol ark uses Chinese firmware and is trying to port their servers to us servers now.
@wrightflyerb5
@wrightflyerb5 6 месяцев назад
I have the exact same Sol-Ark, and we are off grid as well. I started having the exact same issue with the exact same saw. I have learned a few things. As you learned, this is actually a 9kW inverter as far as the loads go. I actually understood this going in, but their advertising is a bit misleading as far as I am concerned. And yes, this 9kW can be achieved along with the surge specs if, and only if, you have 240V balanced loads. Most of us have mostly 120V loads, and they are never perfectly balanced. Each 120V leg on this unit can only handle half of the rated watts and surge capacity. Another thing I learned is that the surge capacity is higher the more solar you have coming in. If you look at the incoming solar on your video, it is always low when you were tripping the inverter, and high when the inverter started the saw. So, working at night or cloudy days is problematic. What I ended up doing was installing an auto-transformer, which perfectly balances the 120V loads across the two legs of the inverter. The transformer does use a small amount of power when in use, so I put it on a separate breaker and switch to be able to turn it off when not needed. In actuality, I rarely turn it off because we usually get plenty of solar input to charge the batteries (may turn it off in deep winter). This has fixed any issues I have had with the inverter tripping.
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid 6 месяцев назад
Interesting! Thanks for sharing 👍
@glee21012
@glee21012 Год назад
Any big motor load on half a split phase is going to be a problem, you have to oversize your inverter, this is engineering 101. A 240 to 120V transformer will solve your problem for certain appliances, most homes have all their big loads on 240V anyway. If you want to run 10A motors or more on 120V that's on you. Also Get a soft start for all your big motors.
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
Maybe you should watch the video…
@dagwood1327
@dagwood1327 Год назад
@21:55 the label shot. I have this unit as well. I knew they were sketchy advertising it as 12K and it was only 9K. What I didn’t realize was that it was 37.5 amp DC. I thought it was 63 amp. Now I find it is only 63 amp connected to the grid. I am trying to run a tiny house (640 sq ft) and a cabinet shop (lots of 220v saws) and also a 220v well. I am grid tied and have a separate panel for the 220v saws. BUT the whole point in spending this much money was t be 100% off grid. I thought I was buying a bigger unit.
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
It should work as long as your only using one saw at a time. We’re completely off grid and it’s back to working great for us
@jimthvac100
@jimthvac100 8 месяцев назад
Need a soft start to put between the wall socket and the saw.
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid 8 месяцев назад
It’s working fine without it
@samfish6938
@samfish6938 6 месяцев назад
SOLARK ON 15 K SAYS YOU UNCOPLE THE BREAKERS OR EVERYTHING GOES ON ONE BREAKER
@jspafford
@jspafford Год назад
It’s per leg. I bet it’s 66amps total or 33 amps per leg. Plus resistance added from long cable run with splices.
@CreatingASimplerLifeOffGrid
We thought that too but we’re told it doesn’t matter.
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