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Soldano pedal vs Wampler Slostortion pedals, what’s the difference? 

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Recently Soldano released a long-anticipated distortion pedal designed to bring that great SLO tone to pedalboards everywhere. I've noticed in many gear group threads some folks have asked how the Slostortion would compare to it, so i figured I'd dive in and make a video for you about it!
Check out the Soldano pedal here: reverb.com/shop/official-soldano
Timestamps:
0:00 Start
0:35 Why i created the slostortion in the first place
1:15 bravado clean tone
1:50 slostortion into bravado
2:36 slostortion mid control demo
3:08 soldano into bravado
4:40 soldano low gain tones into bravado
5:08 slostortion low gain tones into bravado
5:53 clean tone on Fender Deluxe Reverb
6:09 slostortion with deluxe reverb
6:23 soldano pedal with deluxe reverb
6:35 soldano deep switch explained
7:49 slostortion full gain with deluxe reverb
8:22 soldano full gain with deluxe reverb
11:14 soldano amp distortion channel tone
12:41 soldano pedal into clean channel of soldano SLO-30
13:20 slostortion into clean channel of soldano SLO-30
15:50 clean tone when running into effects return of SLO-30
15:55 soldano pedal into effects return of SLO-30
16:50 slostortion into effects return of SLO-30
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Комментарии : 161   
@AlexOlivari67
@AlexOlivari67 Год назад
The way you present your (and other builder's) gear, sets you apart from 95 % of the guitar youtubers. Down to earth, honest and knowledgable, not trying to be a f***g pop star.
@wampler_pedals
@wampler_pedals Год назад
🙏
@justtheworstever7316
@justtheworstever7316 Год назад
or trying to be some kind of morning chat show host. Nice to not be assaulted by the mannerisms of someone who appears to be high on meth and MDMA at the same time.
@f33fifofum
@f33fifofum Год назад
Really interesting to hear how two pedals approach the SLO sound so differently. Fantastic video Brian. I love the videos where you talk to the design choices that pedal builders make along the way. Really good insight.
@Texasbluesalley
@Texasbluesalley Год назад
SLOstortion is still an underrated pedal IMO. A lot of overdrives tend to sound the same. SLOstortion stands out and is very distinct.
@alexwood8555
@alexwood8555 Год назад
I love your content so much Brian. I appreciate when you add so much EQ options, it makes running my amp dirty or clean pretty viable either way.
@zafira976
@zafira976 Год назад
Both fantastic pedals and incredibly amp-like and big sounding! Well done Bryan, love the SLO stortion
@greendragon2471
@greendragon2471 Год назад
Love the video brian! Love your videos. Always love geeking out
@ColinRyne
@ColinRyne Год назад
throwing my hat in the ring for chasing tone to b back here. i don’t remember the specifics of the pod but i do remember u talking about it on there. rock on b wamps
@poronkusema1162
@poronkusema1162 Год назад
Great demo - well done! Both pedal sound great and amplike enough for my taste.
@Supergrunged
@Supergrunged Год назад
Def enjoy another pedal builders input on new designs! And def enjoyed hearing about a past pedal I had never seen, and could learn further about! Our tastes do change over the years. And while the slostortion may not be exactly your cup of tea these days, thank you for showing, and comparing it to the new Soldano!
@TechMetalRules
@TechMetalRules 11 месяцев назад
Fantastic demo and great playing.
@ikestoddard2458
@ikestoddard2458 Год назад
GREAT SET OF TIME HACKS!!! Thank you, Brian.
@danielpirone8028
@danielpirone8028 Год назад
I was really hoping for this sorta comparison. Always appreciated! Wouldn’t mind seeing a live Spectrograph to better help see what is going on.
@anatoly_trifonov
@anatoly_trifonov 10 месяцев назад
Great video, useful and informative
@paulsonn1308
@paulsonn1308 Год назад
Thanks for the video Brian
@mikeyohe4750
@mikeyohe4750 5 месяцев назад
Great job. Great explanations!👍
@PeedyJ
@PeedyJ Год назад
Dude, both of these pedals sound great!
@jasonstone1046
@jasonstone1046 Год назад
Awesome vid mate.
@bradconklin2878
@bradconklin2878 Год назад
Great sounds all around!
@eryckcrypton6412
@eryckcrypton6412 Год назад
Fantastic educational content!
@nickspann89
@nickspann89 8 месяцев назад
Haha love the Warren licks, prolly why the SLO amp has always been my dream amp. You make the best OD/distortions out there.
@Boomsterblak
@Boomsterblak Год назад
Great clip..love how you do things...my tumnus has always on status...is awesome.
@TM42
@TM42 Год назад
This was great! I'd love to see more comparison videos like this!
@DGW2013
@DGW2013 Год назад
I have the new Soldano SLO pedal. Kicked my BE OD off the board I like the Wampler sound. Has a nice fat Warren vibe.. oh boy
@JD-nh7vb
@JD-nh7vb Год назад
Very good video!
@warrensharp6681
@warrensharp6681 Год назад
Really great and honest video, thanks for being so transparent! (Sorry for the bad overdrive joke)
@SAagreedSA
@SAagreedSA Год назад
I think the SLOstortion is rad all these years later, man. You did a great job on it. And if you do ever decide to revisit the concept, really excited to hear how that turns out!
@Bishlad939
@Bishlad939 9 месяцев назад
Totally straight up .Best review from a guy that knows his onions ...Cheers Mike ..
@jmaripen
@jmaripen Год назад
I still have the SLO on my board! My tone on it will forever live in our album (passion project) released! 😇
@truthfactreality6814
@truthfactreality6814 Год назад
I have the new soldano pedal. Have to say it’s seriously impressive ! I like the form factor too.
@TheSecondNature
@TheSecondNature Год назад
I still use my wampler slostortion daily. It's been in most of the iterations of my boards, and now it landed on my band's other guitar player's board. That pedal has been with me for 10 years (since I was a teen actually) and it's a really versatile and useful pedal. Not just a distortion but a very very good boost and a great overdrive
@aristocaster
@aristocaster Год назад
Very good video, kudos.
@hoobiedoobies
@hoobiedoobies Год назад
Having owned and sold the SLOstorion twice, I was excited to see Soldano release their pedal. In the end, I found another SLOstortion and picked it up again - I won’t let it go this time. It’s one of the Holy Grail AIAB pedals.
@coastalgeorgia6558
@coastalgeorgia6558 Год назад
got my used slostortion some 5 or so years ago. have and used many other distortions.... but keep going back to the slostotion. it's definitely my fav.
@lazmonti
@lazmonti Год назад
Sounds like there needs to be a updated version of the Slostortion in the future. 🤔
@belligerentamateur
@belligerentamateur Год назад
Oh man, I'm loving the SLO Pedal but I think I need to add yours to the collection as well after this!
@jpduder13
@jpduder13 Год назад
I used to have a SLOstortion but I ended up selling it. It was a little dark sounding to my ear. I like a bright tone, similar to EVHs 90s detune tone. At the 13 minute mark you turned up the presence on the Soldano pedal and that really sounded great to me.
@Soldano999
@Soldano999 Год назад
And now i want both. The soldano has that fluid, articulate and clear "80's" tone, but your pedal and that buttery smooth fat almost steve-vaiesque sound that i really like for leads.
@Telorchid
@Telorchid Год назад
Honest and gracious comparison. Both pedals are capable of very great sounds, given ideal positioning and tweaking in the matrix of guitar-amp-tone controls. Yes, the actual Soldano amps are killer.
@JONNIE_ROCKER
@JONNIE_ROCKER Год назад
I still use my early modell plextortion. Love it
@alguitarchristie
@alguitarchristie Год назад
The reason I like to Soldano pedal is it works with a fender style clean, better, than any other high gain distortion i have ever had! All others have never come close, I always have to tweak them "a lot" it won't come off my board now! Love my tumnus deluxe though, into my dirty amp! It's amazing and so versatile!
@JimijaymesProductions
@JimijaymesProductions Год назад
I underappreciated the slostortion when I had it. Wish I had one again.
@xx05jurtos
@xx05jurtos 7 месяцев назад
A true engineer’s take - caveat after caveat - all true! Recently bought one!
@hoodedbugler
@hoodedbugler Год назад
I was wondering about this comparison, so here we are. Mr Wampler did it himself
@peddlereffects
@peddlereffects Год назад
As someone who is learning to design & build pedals, I would be interested to know specifically how you would approach a design differently now than 12 years ago 😊
@joshguthriemusic8090
@joshguthriemusic8090 Год назад
LOVE that Tele ❤️🤗
@terryenglish7132
@terryenglish7132 Год назад
Excellent video. Yeah, the Soladono self clone effects' EQs and amp's EQ weren't jibbing. I've noticed TC effects, that use a very powerful and to my ears good sounding EQ section, don't work well w a lot of other makers effects that have a different EQ approach that might sound good by itself. Maybe ears prefer just one frequency peak in each range . The Wampler pedal sounded great; that hint of fuzzyness was very nice. The Soladono, going by demos I've heard captures the amp pretty well, but sounds somewhat harsh.
@GTX1123
@GTX1123 7 месяцев назад
It's nice to have choices. When I started playing 45 yrs ago, the big muff pie, mxr dist and the rare fuzz face were about it. I had no pedals but I did have an AMAZING rig. My uncle was a working musician who gave me a 65 Fender showman w permanently jumpered channels and a Marshall 8X10 hotdog cabinet. That rig absolutely SCREAMED. Plug in and dime it to 10.
@blikketty77
@blikketty77 Год назад
I can't comment on the Soldano pedal, to me it sounds close but not quite, but I haven't played it myself and the quality of demos I've seen vary wildly so maybe it's great for the DeMartini / Lynch / early 90s Vh things people want from Soldano branded stuff. You nailed the Warren Haynes thing with the Slostortion.
@aliasdandavisofficial
@aliasdandavisofficial Год назад
You've mentioned this one thing a few times (I'd REALLY like to see a video about it) : what you would "approach differently now", and why (me personally, I don't hold the same opinions about gear that I had a decade - and I've never designed anything).
@m0j0b0ne
@m0j0b0ne Год назад
Based on what I'm hearing, it might be worthwhile to obtain an SLO pedal, even if you already have the 30W SLO head/combo, because the amp has shared EQ, and it's probably a good deal cheaper than a three-channel amp of similar quality. The Wampler SLOstortion sounds really good, too; just different, and I rather like the very effective midrange knob-the Soldano products have that kind of tone stack that keeps you out of trouble by being perhaps a bit too subtle. (though maybe less so at gig volume) Great and instructive video, thanks!
@heavymetal6910
@heavymetal6910 Год назад
Brian I AM using my Bravado Head and I wouldn't change it for the world as it can be whatever I want it to be depending on the pedals I use it with. I use the higher gain Jam pedals Tubedreamer and push it with a Maxon OD808 with level 100% drive 0% and its a match made in heaven with the Bravado head. Built to last a lifetime the way amps should be made.........Rock On Brian.
@wampler_pedals
@wampler_pedals Год назад
🙏
@giancarlopaolini7529
@giancarlopaolini7529 Год назад
Great honest comparison. Yes a decade or so is a lot in terms of technical approaches hence the difference with the latest products. Does that mean that you'll be revisiting the Red Pinaccle Deluxe ? I guess you might make it a super 5150 of the first EVH era 🙂 If so I would buy it again.,
@coalfacechris1336
@coalfacechris1336 Год назад
Hi Brian, Great test session, probably one of the better tests I've watched. I've had a pre-BAD SLO for a long time. AIAB pedals as you quite correctly state, have to be going into the right platform. The amp itself will impart a tone on the pedal, along with guitar, buffers and other ancillaries.
@scotthutchens1203
@scotthutchens1203 Год назад
What is “pre-BAD”?
@hogie1259
@hogie1259 Год назад
@@scotthutchens1203 pre- Boutique Amp Distribution, who I’m sure you’re aware, distribute Friedman, Bogner, Wampler, Morgan , Soldano etc etc…
@scotthutchens1203
@scotthutchens1203 Год назад
@@hogie1259 Had never heard of that one.
@hogie1259
@hogie1259 Год назад
@@scotthutchens1203 sorry man I figured everyone knew who Boutique Amp Distribution was. No offense I hope.
@scotthutchens1203
@scotthutchens1203 Год назад
@@hogie1259 Not a problem. No offense taken. I had just never heard of it. Sounds like a high class operation. I don’t know, I just thought they were initials like the new language people talk in these days. Is it a more widespread distribution system to be able to order really good stuff like Soldano, etc. from places like Sweetwater and other sites?
@guitardave
@guitardave 8 месяцев назад
“If I were to re-do the SLOstortion..”. Do it. Do it! Actually, I’d love to have a Wampler pedal based on the Crunch mode of the SLO - just a fantastic sound. That would get my money Day 1 :-)
@joshludge
@joshludge Год назад
These pedals are Damn Sick!
@moose5206
@moose5206 Год назад
best pedal maker in the world.
@MisterTee
@MisterTee Год назад
They both sound great. I get he impression the SLOstortion would be good into an amp like a deluxe reverb or something else that has an always on bright cap.
@Patriotic327
@Patriotic327 Год назад
Wondering that myself
@guitardave
@guitardave Год назад
The pedals both sound great, and the you hit a chord using the SLO-30… Game over. The real amp in this case is just something else.
@wampler_pedals
@wampler_pedals Год назад
It’s quite fantastic
@bluemetaltele5860
@bluemetaltele5860 Год назад
Never apologize for trying to get a "Warren Haynes-type" Soldano tone.
@chilloutbroseph
@chilloutbroseph Год назад
Seems to me they did a good job on the pedal. It’s not an SLO-100 but you can get good sounds out of it.
@reverendg5937
@reverendg5937 Год назад
I have SLO-stortion. Don't need that other pedal. Thanks, Brain.
@shader26
@shader26 2 месяца назад
Funny. I have an SLOStorion and after I bought it years ago I got an SLO-100. I did exactly the test you did where I tried the SLOStortion into the clean channel of the SLO, and went back and forth, and honestly it amazed me how close it was. But on my Budda SD-45 though the SLOStortion doesn’t do it as much or I haven’t found the right settings.
@jameshalbert181
@jameshalbert181 Год назад
Great now I want one pretty sure this video is going to drive up the price on reverb
@carrielittlecplaster1620
@carrielittlecplaster1620 Год назад
the slostortion has been on my board a long time. i traded a 1986 ce2 for it. i can get good tones no matter the amp. my olny complaint is it is noisey when cranked. but i use it at lower gain settings. its a really good overdrive. may get the new one idk.
@nickspann89
@nickspann89 8 месяцев назад
I played the new SLO pedal and it sounded good but I feel like I could get all those tones with my Sovereign pedal I’ve had forever. Wampler wins again.
@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 Год назад
Cool T-Shirt
@Bobby_Digital37
@Bobby_Digital37 Год назад
I like the Wampler version better, much better!!! It sounds just like Warren Haynes tone to me… the Soldano, not so much 🤷🏽‍♂️ really wish you would reissue the original SLO 🙏🏽
@DavidRFIT
@DavidRFIT Год назад
Hi there Brian, I have a question for you: I like Bluesbreaker style circuits so I'm eyeing a Wampler Pantheon (or even better the new Pantheon Deluxe). BUT. A requirement I have for my pedalboard is that the overdrive that goes right before my Revv G3 distortion can tighten it, like a Tubescreamer or Klon would. For example, a cheap Caline Clear Sky that I have does the job perfectly, but is not a great overdrive by itself. I also tried a Wampler Sovereign and it does the exact opposite, bloating the Revv G3 and un-tightening it in a pretty bad way. So, would a Pantheon serve that purpouse (other than being the very good overdrive that it is when used by itself)? Thanks!
@wampler_pedals
@wampler_pedals Год назад
It certainly can, but it won't do it iin the same way a klon or ts style circuit will, as those circuits are very mid-heavy which crunches an amp channel up wonderfully. The pantheon doesn't have that huge mid bump so you'll probably want to turn the bass down a bit when stacking it but it should work great for this as well.
@j.hammer573
@j.hammer573 Год назад
I realize it’s RU-vid and I’m not in the room but I liked your pedal a bit more. I don’t have a Soldano amp for a point of reference.
@TheFilthLA
@TheFilthLA 3 месяца назад
I'd love to hear you take another crack at an SLO style distortion pedal. Give Soldano a run for their money!
@wampler_pedals
@wampler_pedals 3 месяца назад
I would say the our phenom pedal is the most closest to that
@TheFilthLA
@TheFilthLA 3 месяца назад
@@wampler_pedals Duly noted!
@1vexed73
@1vexed73 Год назад
Feels like we need a wampler clean pedal for effects loop that takes pedals well?
@devilslide01
@devilslide01 4 месяца назад
Hey Brian, great demo/comparison video. What gain pedals of yours would be considered pre-amps as well? I have an amp with 2 channels , but the clean is old school and has no preamp, just volume and tone control. The manual states it goes straight to the power amp. Any thoughts? I’m a big fan of the pinnacle and plexi deluxe as well
@GTX1123
@GTX1123 7 месяцев назад
Which higher end dist pedal is the best? - IT DEPENDS. Depends on the amp, your pickups etc. It's why I have more than one on my board. For that classic 70's crunch with sag, nothing beats the Wampler Pinnacle - ESPECIALLY when you roll your guitar volume back where it cleans up quite well. For metal it's the Octonaut Hyperdrive. It's nice to have a lot of choices.
@axelnetzband1977
@axelnetzband1977 7 месяцев назад
Both sound great But - for me - less noise (SLO) is a killer feature
@Studio31Zero
@Studio31Zero Год назад
Hi Brian, I always enjoy your videos. What are your thoughts on Warren DeMartini's Soldano tone?
@wampler_pedals
@wampler_pedals Год назад
I love it!
@ericskinner7355
@ericskinner7355 Год назад
So what is your favorite distortion that you make? And which is most versatile?
@ericskinner7355
@ericskinner7355 Год назад
I was just wondering...
@CrazedFandango
@CrazedFandango Год назад
I wish higher gain pedals would feature a noise gate.
@mattwicks4788
@mattwicks4788 Год назад
Brian, I can't tell you how badly I want you to make a mini DS-1 and give it the Wampler treatment. I would be first in line to give you my money.
@ThrashingTheDeath
@ThrashingTheDeath Год назад
I still love mi SLO! Hey Brian, this tele is awesome!! Can I ask you what's the bridge pickup??
@wampler_pedals
@wampler_pedals Год назад
It’s a custom thing exclusive to Whitfill guitars, this guitar is basically a Les paul in a tele body. Set neck, LP scale, LP hardware, wiring etc.
@austinfailz
@austinfailz Год назад
I wish Soldano would make a crunch version of the pedal like the mini head has. Then I could have both pedals on the board.
@alguitarchristie
@alguitarchristie Год назад
Set it for a Lead tone,then use your volume control on your guitar for crunch! It will save you the extra bucks!!!
@robertprice5039
@robertprice5039 Год назад
I have been not as much a fan of “Amp in a Box” pedals since I have been using lower wattage amps. I main dirt pedal is the Deluxe Paisley Drive for my current band, doing Retro Style music, and if I was playing Hard Rock it would be the Pantheon. I want the dirt pedal to compliment the amps sound, and not cover it up.
@CC-fi3pp
@CC-fi3pp Год назад
I feel like you're a bit of an unsung hero of the pedal world.
@harrisonstokes8140
@harrisonstokes8140 Год назад
Now I am going to reverb to find a SLOstortortion and buy it.
@jackshittle
@jackshittle 11 месяцев назад
I feel bad that in the 90's we forced out guitar player to ditch his Crate full stack and buy a Soldano Hot Rod 100 Plus and one 4x12. He thought Crate was the apex of guitar amps. After we forced him (because he wouldn't do it on his own) to try the studio's Soldano, he showed up at practice two weeks later with his new Soldano rig. We lived & gigged in Seattle where Michael lived so there was a lot of access to his amps. Maybe had Soldano pedals been available he could have just gotten one of those - who knows?
@tonycannell1162
@tonycannell1162 Год назад
Would love to get a peak at the circuit of the Soldano though. How unique is it?
@wampler_pedals
@wampler_pedals Год назад
Totally unique, it's not a clone of anything. It's op amp based.
@tonycannell1162
@tonycannell1162 Год назад
@@wampler_pedals Many thanks. I've just got my hands on one. A really neat PCB and you were right about it's uniqueness. A little difficult to tame via my Brownface, but so much gain.
@mico5003
@mico5003 Год назад
Hallo #Marshall Amplification, it is time to reissue Shredmaster! As we are flooded this year with pedals whom its origin are thy mighty amp! Bryan, I dig em both which they have their own field, except in send/return, Soldano has uppercut. If I have to choose cheaper one wins.
@kram21
@kram21 Год назад
I would redo it ! I think you will be better than Soldano”s version I would like it for the Warren Haynes- Gary Moore tone( gary’s gain was actually reported Marshall guvnor pedal)
@timothyhingham3672
@timothyhingham3672 Год назад
I use an AMT S2 running the pre out into my Jazz Chorus set pretty flat. Sounds fantastic, and loud.
@Bulletbyter
@Bulletbyter Год назад
Crunch-tor-shon! 😀
@diego_oliveiras
@diego_oliveiras Год назад
Giving the fact that you would design the Slostortion differently, what about a v2? :D
@terryenglish7132
@terryenglish7132 Год назад
Have you looked under the hood ? What's producing the distortion in the effect ?
@wampler_pedals
@wampler_pedals Год назад
Yes, opamp based
@kxmrock
@kxmrock Год назад
Brian, do a 1990's Peavey 5150 in a Box
@wampler_pedals
@wampler_pedals Год назад
hang tight for a few weeks ;)
@yowild9629
@yowild9629 Год назад
Well iff the EQ on amps tone stack is passive you should put all controlls on max and it will be like no EQ
@wampler_pedals
@wampler_pedals Год назад
Not exactly. That’s because all of those filters will still affect the eq. Use this site and you can see for yourself: www.guitarscience.net/tsc/marshall.htm#RIN=1300&R1=33k&RT=220k&RB=1M&RM=25k&RL=517k&C1=470p&C2=22n&C3=22n&RB_pot=LogB&RM_pot=Linear&RT_pot=Linear
@m00nchildblues
@m00nchildblues 8 месяцев назад
All I want is "Man In The Box" chug😂
@rockstardr
@rockstardr Год назад
Please.....Do a stereo reverb with midi and presets....
@wampler_pedals
@wampler_pedals Год назад
Lol, I gotcha 😉
@kram21
@kram21 Год назад
Soldano should make a low gain switch on their pedal - the lowest level of its gain is 2 much
@guitardave
@guitardave 8 месяцев назад
Yeah, I wish it covered the sounds of the SLO crunch channel. Maybe a Soldano SLO Crunch pedal would be an idea for the future.
@waynegram8907
@waynegram8907 Год назад
Is wamper going to make a mini Solano pedal soon? I hope it has a mode switch to get those 80s Clapton tones , ratts warren demartini, Warren Haynes, etc the mode switch would be presets to nail those tones
@wampler_pedals
@wampler_pedals Год назад
I doubt we will do a soldano thing
@waynegram8907
@waynegram8907 Год назад
@@wampler_pedals Try to make a Rivera Stage 4 amplifier pedal to get those TOTO hold the line and Michael Jackson beat tones because this Rivera Stage 4 creates that tone right out of the box. It would be nice to have a pedal that gets those rivera amplifier Toto Hold the line guitar tone
@masterofreality230
@masterofreality230 Год назад
If Soldano would just cut us a break and release a high voltage 2 channel preamp that would be great
@brandonhamilton370
@brandonhamilton370 Год назад
JHS At+ or Wampler SLOStortion? im stuck between the two!
@wampler_pedals
@wampler_pedals Год назад
Honestly- look up our phenom pedal. It’s way better than the slostortion. Between that and JHS is just preference.
@brandonhamilton370
@brandonhamilton370 Год назад
@@wampler_pedals thanks for the response. Def sounds a lot like slostortion for half the price. My local L&M has both of these pedals that’s why I ask. I have an angry Charlie v3, but it just seems too mushy and 70s sounding, I want something more 80s. I’ve heard the @+ doesn’t do well with stacking though, so I’m a bit torn between which one to get! Thanks again!
@jonfaerman7518
@jonfaerman7518 Год назад
wampler with a presence knob should be even better
@marvinmartin3438
@marvinmartin3438 Год назад
Dude, I love that pedal! How many watts is it? Is it frequency compensated? Are the knobs finger compatible? Is it gig bag ready? Can it get me the EVH "negro sound?" Asking for a friend
@kodykindhart5644
@kodykindhart5644 Год назад
You’d be a better person if you just tried being a good person Just some advice from the friend you were asking for
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