SOMALILAND-PUNTLAND | A Somali Clan Conflict?

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While international attention has been on Somalia's battle against Al-Shabaab, a severe conflict has emerged in the Horn of Africa between Somaliland and several clans that want to remain part of Somalia or join neighbouring Puntland. This has led to fighting around Las Anod (Laascaanood), the administrative city of the eastern province of Sool, which is seeking to establish its own breakaway administration: Khatumo State of Somalia. This has left hundreds dead and forced over two hundred thousand to flee. All this makes it a complex conflict as both sides see the other as a separatist group. But what exactly lies behind it?
While we think of secessionist conflicts as being fought between different ethnic, national or religious groups, sometimes issues arise between groups that come from the same background. The conflict between Somalia, Somaliland and Puntland is a case in point. While ethnic Somalis share a language, culture and religion, it is highly fragmented along clan lines. In the context of the current conflict this has seen the Isaaq, the most prominent clan in Somaliland, come into tensions with the Majeerteen, the dominant clan in Puntland, and the Dhulbahante and the Warsangeli, which are centred on eastern Somaliland - an area known as Sool, Sanaag and Cayn (SSC). All three are aligned to the Harti, a sub-clan of the Darod (Darood) clan - one of the five key Somalia clans. This has raised fears that the fighting around Lasanod may evolve into a far larger clan war. At the same time, it raises crucial questions about efforts to reach a final agreement on the status of Somaliland.
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VIDEO CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction and Titles
00:32 Identity and Secession: Somaliland and Somalis
01:33 The Somalis: Key Locations and the Clans
02:57 A Brief History of the Somali People
03:57 Somalia’s Collapse and the Emergence of Somaliland
05:53 The Emergence of Puntland State of Somalia
07:11 Somaliland, Puntland and Khatumo
08:50 The Fighting in Las Anod (Laascaanood)
10:10 A Somaliland-Puntland-Khatumo Conflict?
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Overlapping Claims by Somaliland and Puntland: The Case of Sool and Sanaag
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@JamesKerLindsay Год назад

Although the severe fighting around Las Anod has received almost no international attention, this conflict is becoming a major crisis in the Horn of Africa. Already, it has seen hundreds killed and over 200,000 people flee their homes. But it raises lots of tough questions. Should the contested area remain a part of Somaliland? Or should it be part of Somalia? And, if it is allowed to break away from Somaliland, should it do so as Khatumo State, or should it be incorporated into Puntland? Do let me know your thoughts and comments below.

@mesamies123 Год назад

Thank you, Professor, for bringing your intellect and analysis to this situation and to the attention of those of us grossly ignorant of it. Furthermore, thank you for your attention to all places in the world.

@Homer-OJ-Simpson Год назад

I do support Somaliland being an independent nation but regarding the eastern parts of Somaliland, I don’t know. I can see an argument for both sides and I probably would need a lot more information before I feel comfortable with having an opinion on that. This is indeed a very complex issue and you do a great job of finding these very complex issues.

@theconqueringram5295 Год назад

Yeah, this is a big problem for the conflict. Where do we go from here? What is to be the fate of this territory? Honestly, I don't know, there's a lot going on here.

@sheekhcabdiraxmaancumar6937 Год назад

It is fake and it is not true that number who fled from lasanod because the residents were 80000. This war is behind terrorist groups those are fighting in lasanod. So somaliland must defeat this extremist groups in there

@sheekhcabdiraxmaancumar6937 Год назад

There other clans who are not dulbahante in the region of lasanod so it is not possible that lasnod region will be a state of be part of puntland. This trial is not first time that they try. All in all this will fail and it will be part of somaliland as usual and as geographically because the boundry

@kerekse150 Год назад

The last sentence is deeply painful and still tells the true situation of Somalis people, at the same time: ''Sometimes, communities otherwise united by a single language, culture, and religion can still wish to be apart.''

@JamesKerLindsay Год назад

Indeed. It is certainly a strange situation. But this is a case of how a past (colonial) history can create a very different political outlook between peoples who otherwise have everything in common.

@MW-sh1ui Год назад

@@JamesKerLindsay You more or less hit the nail on the head with this video. The sole reason for this situation is because of resentment for Darood clan. That is the reason why Somaliland want to break Somalia and claim non existent colonial line between the Harti clan. The south is dominated by the Hawiye and they also have similar resentment for Darood. Thus they have an illicit coalition with the Isaaq clan called Irir Samaale - the reason for this is to try weaken and team up against Daarod. They want to dominate Darood in the north with Somaliland and weaken Darood in the North East and the rest of Somalia so their influence on the country is minimised. The sole reason that Somalis want to be apart is (Qabyaalad) Clan feud. Puntland realised this in the early 90s and eventually formed Puntland in 1998 to counter the attempts of the Irir Samaale coalition. Puntland recognised the fractured nature of the country and made Somalia Federal, so that each region could run their local affairs to avoid the darkness of the civil war where centralism failed. Puntland offered a resolution for all clans to run their local affairs and also work together but this has been undermined ever since. It’s now time to move towards Confederation to give more power to the people in their local regions whilst maintaining unity. This will prevent the misuse of power in Mogadishu. It will also allow equal power sharing for everyone.

@nasrin1930 Год назад

It is sad but with somaliand is a clan separation in which lead to this destructive mentality we’re they wish to control others clan

@blackdignitymedia3172 11 месяцев назад

A clan speaks to a common ancestor of sorts. ZERO common ancestors. Somali is not a bloodline but many different bloodlines with vastly different gene pools. We are not lying to the children anymore.@@nasrin1930

@theONE-ws8lh 11 месяцев назад

It sucks that this has happened and it just goes to show how low IQ our people are or should I say how prideful they are, the Isaaq clan started everything when they complained about being a junior partner but this could also be on the leaders in Mogadishu in not coming to an agreement with the the north they should’ve let them be and autonomous state within Somalia. When I look at Britain I wonder how they were able to form their union, was it just the military might England had over Scotland? Or was Scotland able to realize it was the junior partner and that being United would lead to greater success? Im not really sure but I do feel Britain has something to do with Somaliland’s secession simply because they have kept the same name and same borders during the colonial era.

@bigmos82 Год назад

Very balanced assessment 👏. Very complex issue . One point I would add is the fact that tribal element is at the heart of why the doolbahante of Darod clan don't want to be part of somaliland, there is a deep sense of suspicions and hatred between Issack (main clan in somaliland) and Darod. Another point is that fact that somali sociaty as a whole is highly equalitarian would not accept easily an authority from a different clan or even sub-clan. Often , authorities struggle to strike right that delicate balance between clan based tribalism and attempt to bring democracy. Everywhere in somalia including djibouti democracy is a thin layer on top of a very complex clans structure.

@JamesKerLindsay Год назад

Thank you so much. Unfortunately, I couldn't delve too deeply into the precise disputes between the clans. But hopefully, I gave a good introductory overview of the situation. It really isn't easy to piece it all together. But the more videos I do on the region, the more fascinating I find it!

@bigmos82 Год назад

@@JamesKerLindsay keep an eye on it , the situation is very dynamic and changing all the time . There is a lot of regional players involved behind the scenes. I'm following it closely as this is a very dangerous time for the whole region.

@simdachi Год назад

Unfortunately the Dulbahante were all members NSS(Somalian gestapo). They were forgiven but still don't trust those they supresed

@KaKa-hz3du Год назад

@@simdachi Minister of Interior and Chief of Army in Somaliland both in the army of Siyaad Barre killing people in Mudug and Nugaal. They got forgiven after returning to SNM in 1991.

@mua2 Год назад

@@simdachi unfortunately Isaaq are all gaal raac Somali diid, of course us Harti don’t want to be part of that.

@Land_of_Punt Год назад

What a shame all this is happening in the month of Ramadan, Subhanallah. May god have mercy on the Somali people and help them unite InshaAllah. ☝🏾🇸🇴✊🏾

@blackdignitymedia3172 Год назад

Somali is a language, not a people. Stop misinforming others.

@Land_of_Punt Год назад

@@blackdignitymedia3172 you should take your own advice mate. Somali is a language and a tribe. They live all over the Horn of Africa from Djibouti all the way down to NFD in Kenya. They are related to other Cushitic tribes in the horn such as the Oromos, Afars, Sahos, Rendilles, etc. Go Google this and see who’s misinforming people.

@Bell_plejdo568p Год назад

@@Land_of_Punt this video is filled with so much misinformation and ur right

@Halgame99 11 месяцев назад

@@blackdignitymedia3172 Somali is an ethnic name! Our language is called Af-Somali just like English people and the language English! Educate yourself before speaking

@blackdignitymedia3172 11 месяцев назад

Misery loves company. The worst comparison is the world: Not everyone who speaks English is an English person. Maybe you should get an education. Somali is only a language and nothing more. The language itself is part of the Ethiopian civilization's set of languages, this language branched off of AfanOromo. Somali has never been an Ethnic. Many very different ethnicities speak the Somali language. No comfort for liars. @@Halgame99

@mohameda7585 Год назад

This is on point, I have never seen a non Somali owned documentary or media be so well informed in the current conflict.

@JamesKerLindsay Год назад

Thank you so much. It really wasn't easy trying to put it together. There are a lot of complex elements to the situation. And there is little information available. I hoped I explained it fairly and accurately.

@yahyaelmi8435 Год назад

@@JamesKerLindsay the reality is this problem is between khatumo and somaliland . The khatumo regime decided to go under the federal administration in mogdhishu and burn bridge with both puntland and somaliland . As a result somaliland attacked lascano. The federal republic of Somalia give the rights for any Somali region to join under the federal government if they can’t find peace with other federal member states . The people of khatumo for years have been under brutal leadership of puntland and somaliland . And as a result their main elder garaad jamac decided that the best bet is to remain self governd and independent from both puntland and Somaliand

@yunishajjz Год назад

@@yahyaelmi8435 well said brother 🙌 4:21.

@PATIENT_KING Год назад

@@JamesKerLindsay YOU NAILED IT LIKE A REAL PRO PROFESSOR!!! KEEP UP THE SOLID WORK AND DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE AMATEURS IN HIDE OUTS!!!

@mohameda7585 Год назад

@@yahyaelmi8435 yahya that is our hope, for a khatumo state to be formed in the region, but as of now, this region is represented in the federal system as part of puntland even though it was partially under Somaliland control.

@adamsacad8265 Год назад

Great research. Appreciate how you elaborated the Las'anod issue.

@JamesKerLindsay Год назад

Thanks so much! Not the most straightforward video to put together. But the situation certainly deserves more attention.

@Dreamchasermycade Год назад

As some one from the region I was really impressed by your deep and extensive knowledge of the dynamics and history of this conflict, your unbiased Attitude is also something I was not expecting . You are an excellent professor .

@mangistuababe9895 Год назад

Its biased information, why doesn't talk about that African countries civil wars, poverty, diseases and under development are all driving from his colonial powers. Parasites kill it's hostage without knowing it.

@FaadumoCulbe-fe2pw Год назад

😢 soobe liqey waN iska celibeyn

@FaadumoCulbe-fe2pw Год назад

😂😂😂

@FaadumoCulbe-fe2pw Год назад

😢e😂

@tiagogomes3807 Год назад

As someone who knew very little of that region. Do people on the ground know why they are killing eachother? There were so many twists and so many leader to exchange their people for a position in a government, i'm not sure people can keep up.

@aducaale328 Год назад

You simplified a complex issue. Well done Prof James that was amazing content.

@yussufomar2262 Год назад

Yes the problem is Issaq or Iidoor clan,they want to free from Somali but other clans want to be free from Somali land so Iidoor clan can not force other clans to stay with Somali land

@hanz_60 Год назад

Stop acting like you people don’t drag Isaac. Even if Isaac were the only clan wanting separation, you guys will still go after us.

@muktarabdulle Год назад

A very fascinating and brief overview of what is happening in Las'anood.We appreciate your unbiased and informative video on this issue.

@abiibabiib4108 Год назад

Thank you very much James.

@peterkops6431 Год назад

It’s great to learn about these types of international conflicts. I had no idea about any of this.

@MrSandyBruce Год назад

Damn this actually made me sad. As complex as this issue is any suggestion to bring peace would sound like "I can wave a magic wand." Feel bad for the people that just want to live. Prosper and raise a family in peace. As always outstanding job of explaining a really really tough topic.

@saleebanabdi4406 Год назад

Please share this story on your socials, we need help

@JamesKerLindsay Год назад

Thanks, Sandy. You are absolutely right. It is incredibly sad. Lots of lives ruined. Let’s hope peace can come to the area soon.

@mrpirate3020 Год назад

@@saleebanabdi4406 😂😂😂😂😂😂You cracked separatists shame on you loser .

@falischika6221 Год назад

The documentary is very informative and detailed. It's great to see an outsider who is honest and knowledgeable about the real issues happening in this region of Somalia. Thank you Prof James for investing time in researching and creating this video.

@faarjano2430 Год назад

Iam from Somalia u made easy for everyone to understand about the confusion tnks

@JamesKerLindsay Год назад

Thank you so much. I really appreciate it! It certainly wasn't easy trying to pick apart the situation and make it as clear as I could. I hope I generally did a good job. I know that a lot of viewers will challenge particular bits of the video, especially the clan sizes, but there is a lot of information that is out of date and inaccurate. But overall, I hope it explains things.

@saint-miscreant Год назад

this hadn’t come up on my radar much, i’d only known about the situation with puntland and the broader issue of somaliland’s sovereignty, so this was a very informative video. thanks!

@JamesKerLindsay Год назад

Thank so much. Yes, it really hadn’t received much attention. It certainly deserves a lot more.

@Ardaa_fardowza143 Год назад

Thank you very much Prof James ker-lindsay

@JamesKerLindsay Год назад

Thank you very much. I really appreciate it.

@shamsoqase1752 Год назад

I really appreciate the why you explained the situation and I wish pace for everyone

@r.o.c_3 Год назад

peace! darod dulmane qoxooti jecle

@malikhass7059 Год назад

YOU HAVE COVERED THE TOPIC VERY WELL.

@mahdiali2695 Год назад

Thanks prof. A good analysis on current situation

@bowsi9 Год назад

I have subscribed I do believe your channel deserves much more audience

@JamesKerLindsay Год назад

Thank you so much. That is incredibly kind. I really appreciate it.

@somsupenterprises9112 Год назад

Somaliland did not exist before British colonial time. The colonial powers divided Somalia into many parts. After the independence Somalia unified again under one flag - the blue flag with the white star in the middle. A clan which is majority in Somaliland decided to break away from Somalia, even though Somalia was always one country. However, there are other clans who want to stay in Somalia. Now the bigger clan in Somaliland wants to force the rest of Somali clans in Somaliland to live under their rule even though they never voted to be part of Somaliland. Dhulbahante clan doesn't want to be part of Somaliland, but the Somaliland regime wants to force them to stay under their rule. That is what is driving the conflict in short.

@FarahAbdul Год назад

There was no country called Somalia before the British Italians French came so who are you trying to fuul in matter of fact there was no such borders in Africa.😂😂😊

@maxameddaabadsomalilanderd3640 Год назад

Somaliland was exist before british you are ignorant who dont know his history CAN YOU KNOW THE LAND OF GODS THE ADAL EMPIRE AND THE GREAT WEALTHY PEOPLE BEFORE 5000YRS SEARCH THE HISTORY

@simdachi Год назад

Irredentism is dead. AfricanUnion recognizes colonial borders

@user-xq4ob2fg7k Год назад

@@simdachi If the African Union recognizes your colonial borders, what is the recognition you have been looking for for thirty years? Why can you not enter any country of the African Union with a Somaliland passport and go to get a Somali passport? From the city of Growe

@Rafael99923 Год назад

@@FarahAbdul exactly so clan borders at the only official borders. Secessionist should understand if they want to divide Somalia up by clans we will do the same. Qaranka nonsense won’t work. SSC,Awdal and we will even try divide isaaqs up by giving Garhajis a state. Somalia will always be one.

@maguled Год назад

Excellent objective analysis. Thanks Prof James.

@CoffeeSuccubus Год назад

Your pronunciation of these clans and such are impeccable. I am thoroughly impressed. You're a really good analyzer and professor. I appreciate you, Professor James and thank you for this!

@JamesKerLindsay Год назад

Thank you so much! That is so incredibly kind of you to say. I was so worried about that. I actually watched a lot of Somali videos to try to get it right. I just always have a really strong British accent in whatever language I try to speak! :-)

@mahadwawenka1893 Год назад

As a Somali I am highly impressed about your research in this topic and how you even know the names of every clan in somalia. Highly informative and well explained the truth about the fighting in las'anod region. Thank you for showing the world the least known event going on in every corner of the world .

@JamesKerLindsay Год назад

Thank you so much. I find the region so incredibly interesting. And this is such a tragic and sad situation. I really hope that calm can be restored very soon. And it really should be getting more coverage. On a lighter note, I just hope I didn't butcher the names too badly. I watched a lot of Somali RU-vid videos to try to get them right! :-)

@XY-kx6cy Год назад

You are still missing a lot talk to people from different groups and see what comes up

@Abshir1it1is Год назад

@@JamesKerLindsay -- It was a great attempt! Honestly, I would just say that Hawiye and Cayn were most glaring. The 'e' isn't silent. It's Ha-wee-yeh (or Ha-wee-yah, pronunciation differs). As for the 'c' in Cayn, I would skip it entirely. Ironically, you'd be closer to getting it accurate by treating it as a silent letter than by pronouncing it as an English 'c' (k or s sound, both are wrong). In Somali writing, the letter 'c' represents the Arabic 'ayn, which is to say, the sound is utterly alien to the English language.

@kth6736 Год назад

I consider my self reasonably informed about global conflicts but didn't even know this conflict existed. 😅 Thank you professor.

@Homer-OJ-Simpson Год назад

Same here! I knew about Somaliland and their indepdence movement but never heard of this conflict.

@maddogbasil Год назад

It started a couple months ago Over some disputes in thr katumo region Apparently the somaliland people were being incredibly bellicose and oppressive to the people living there so their is now an ongoing rebellion.

@abdulrazakjama8191 Год назад

@@Homer-OJ-Simpson somalia is about clans and harti/darod are majority somali clan and they don’t support the secessionist agenda on their land because Somalia 🇸🇴 is the de jure

@jacfarcali9691 Год назад

Very informative and fair analysis as if you an eye witness of what happened in somalia step by step.

@SomalianGangsta4Lyfe Год назад

Puntland was built by all Harti clans which is something you missed. Puntland in its current day is a MJ stronghold but was built by all Harti clans.

@laascaanood539 Год назад

Tru story ❤

@Makhircoast Год назад

you are spot on

@user-bz8zq4mk3l Год назад

@@Makhircoast yeah spooooottt on

@jamalnur4981 Год назад

Great segment, on the spot.

@JamesKerLindsay Год назад

Thank you so much!

@mahamudosman6378 Год назад

Well researched topic 👏

@JamesKerLindsay Год назад

Thank you very much indeed. It was not an easy video to put together. But it is an important topic that really isn't getting as much international attention as it should.

@RunRaadis Год назад

Fantastic overview of this complex conflict. Even me a Somali struggle to keep up with it. Well done mate💯

@JamesKerLindsay Год назад

Thank you so much! This was certainly one of the trickier videos I have done. There were lots of strands that needed to be brought together and not a lot of information out there.

@oskaaden304 Год назад

Here to say thank you for the (Excellent summary on the the cause of revolution in Las’anod)

@hahahahahaha8747 Год назад

Another masterpiece ✨

@abdiosman7256 Год назад

Thank you for the information

@fb150185 Год назад

Very interesting topic. Thank you

@JamesKerLindsay Год назад

Thank you very much indeed.

@dahabilyrics Год назад

LAASCAANOOD IS KHAATUMO STATE OF SOMALIA IT'S HAS THEIR OWN FALAG 🇸🇴🐎🇸🇴🐎🇸🇴THANK YOU

@JamesKerLindsay Год назад

Thank you. It does indeed.

@jakef.7126 Год назад

I never fully understood the events of Somalia and what led to Civil War. I wished I had learnt all of this much sooner: the relationship between clans and the cause of the Ogaden war.

@laascaanood539 Год назад

It’s never too late bro! Come to Somalia 🇸🇴 i know it’s a hard knock life! But it’s worth it

@abdishakourmohamed3130 Год назад

Thanks for your time to make this fantastic overview of root cause of Las,anod conflict

@JamesKerLindsay Год назад

Thank you very much. Let’s just hope it can be resolved soon.

@erictevoedjre3966 Год назад

Very impressive professor. I couldn't get such quality information anywhere else. Thanks

@AlexLee-dc2vb Год назад

It's hilarious how much the time of this video's release is saving me - I need to give a presentation about Somalia on Tuesday. This was useful information. Good work as always, Professor

@Handle0108 Год назад

If you have any questions, ask away

@AlexLee-dc2vb Год назад

@@Handle0108 Thank you for the offer! I was wondering if you could tell me about how the various warlord clans typically fund their militias. I heard that various jihadist groups in the region get revenue by taxing charcoal markets and coastal pirates, but I haven't heard of warlords using these same practices. Thanks again.

@Handle0108 Год назад

@@AlexLee-dc2vbAl-Shabab has many sources of revenue, some known and some hidden but generally they get the bulk of their revenue by taxing regular citizens usually people in their areas and citizens with businesses, across the country using the power of fear. So they extort money from people like that which makes them a lot of revenue. Pirates are not really a thing anymore, so that’s not really significant today. They also are believed to be allegedly gaining some funding from foreign actors with different interests but this is unclear. As for warlords, firstly they don’t exist anymore since there is a government in somalia from 2011 onwards. There’s only politicians, Al-Shabab and African Union forces now. But when they did exist, in Somalia warlords were seen as just regular people, they aren’t “criminals” that have to resort to odd means of gaining money like Al-shabab. They are just like politicians, and they gained their revenue through business, salaries of their own or the backing of people who supported them. For example the very first warlords in 1990s Aidid and Ali Mahdi were opposing political rivals who each wanted to replace the toppled Siad Barre in 1991, and they fought each other ruthlessly for their own clans and interests. Aidid was seen as a hero by his clan and even other Somalis for a lot of reasons: he was a famous and seasoned elite general of the Somali army, trained in Rome Italy to become police chief, trained and educated at Frunze military academy in the Soviet Union(an elite institution reserved for the most qualified officers of the Warsaw Pact armies and their allies), a Veteran of the Ogaden war in 1977 and the main leader of the entire rebellion that toppled the dictatorship that ruled Somalia for 20 years, he had all sorts of backers from his own clan and across the country. Including Osman Ali Atto a famous rich businessman who backed him, which made Aidid very powerful. Ali Mahdi on the other hand was himself a rich businessman in Somalia, he wasn’t very famous but he had the backing of his own clan and he was also internationally recognised as president of the country throughout the tumultuous 1990s but he had little power outside of a few areas in the south in reality(de facto). Other warlords like Mohammed Said Hersi or Morgan for short, was a UN designated war criminal who lead the Isaq Genocide in the North, but he had the backing and loyalty of many militias from his own clan as he was a powerful General of the Somali army who was married to the former leader’s daughter. Also the US supported many warlords (who were more secular) in the early 2000s as a counter measure against jihadism and as part of its global war on terror. But in conclusion, it’s important to know that all the warlords were supported first and foremost by their own clan, and people did so since in the broken post war system of Clanism it was “eat or be eaten”, so everyone supported powerful people from their own clan to protect their interests. Secondly, most of the warlords were well known people who already had power in the country before the Civil war so they had a good grip on power and had a lot of connections, influence and loyal supporters.

@Nury_the_1 Год назад

@@AlexLee-dc2vb They do so by extortion and stealing Aid and selling it. Also growing Khat and selling it in Ethiopia and Yemen, and taxing the roads by forming road blocks and any passer has to pay a fee. The single positive thing of these Warlords are they fight the Terrorists. But they are even worse because they have no ideology except kill and make money. The US has to stop funding them and instead support the National Army, if they want to actually remove terrorism for Somalia, Hope that answered your question 😉

@abdulqanidahirismail3677 Год назад

he concisely and brecisely made a point but I would add you one missing point, mostly Elite of dhulbahante are ready to be part in somaliland and they have full inclusive in somaliland system, the recent unrest situation in laascaanood is caused by debate about clan power sharing

@bashirahmed3618 Год назад

Very informative and fair research! I am surprised with the amount of facts you were able provide in such a short video. Great reporting!

@Hornscope Год назад

Very concise to the point

@JamesKerLindsay Год назад

Thank you so much. It was challenging to piece together all the different elements of the story and find the information. I hope that it will help explain the situation accurately and fairly to a broader international audience. More to the point, I hope the region finds peace soon.

@Hornscope Год назад

@@JamesKerLindsay this's very accurate and unbiased report that will benifit to anyone interesting the past and present situations of Somalia and somaliland

@JamesKerLindsay Год назад

@@Hornscope Thank you again.

@Hornscope Год назад

@@JamesKerLindsay you most welcome sir

@tormundgaint1022 Год назад

Very informative

@abdishakurabdi1844 Год назад

Hallo Prof James, I'm from Laas'aanod Somalia. I am highly impressed about the research you have well research. as a people of las'anod we don't want to be a Part of Somaliland, we are a Part of Somalia, and that's the main issue of the confilct as you already said. Thank you.

@suppernova1184 Год назад

that is bullshot because Somaliland is still officially part of Somalia but you still want to break off because of clan hatred

@jerryrodriguez3554 Год назад

@Nandhini well the same can be said about isaaqs who wish to dominate another clan based off a one sided nationalism argument that only benefits them

@suppernova1184 Год назад

@@jerryrodriguez3554 There is majority clan every where Somalia will always be dominated by Hawiye that doesn't give other clans an excuse to break off and act independently

@samuelkilla8365 Год назад

Portland began separating from Somalia with the aim of building a Darud state. Note that Denny was absent from attending the meeting of the regions. So in the future there will be neither SSC nor Khaatumo. You will swallowed within Putland and the leading clan will be always Mahamud saleban.

@hanz_60 Год назад

If you didn’t want to be part of somaliland, why didn’t your people make a move in 1991, when somaliland finally got its freedom? Why is this problem starting now? What were your people doing for the past 32 years?

@siciidfindhe7457 Год назад

I am from sanaag region The major people live in Sool sanaag And cayn want to be a apart in somalia and The international community must confront This reality we want somalia. And we will be somalis as long us we breathing

@rodag7831 Год назад

This is not true. Ceerigaabo, Mayd and Xiis are Isaaq clan. Also, Caynabo is an Isaaq clan. This is the problem with what the Darood clan are trying to do which is causing the issues. Infact, Warsengali came to Somaliland from Hoobyo due to war with Sultanate Majeertania who expelled Warsengali into Somaliland.

@shukriiii Год назад

@@rodag7831 stop being delusional ceerigabo was historically dhulbahante but today it is a mix of both due to our generosity and thinking of isaaqs as normal human beings

@rodag7831 Год назад

@@shukriiii What a lie? Sanaag was always a Isaaq land. Dhul Bahante are Darood who hail from the South. Ogadeen people to be exact.

@shukriiii Год назад

@@rodag7831 😂😂😂😂😂😂💀 ilaahow ha nawaalin

@shukriiii Год назад

@@rodag7831 you guys are oromo origin if anything and daarood occupies most of Somalia including north and we don’t originate from anywhere bold of you isaaq laanghaab clan

@peterkops6431 Год назад

Thanks Prof 👍🏻👍🏻

@ismailhwarsame Год назад

Sir, Your podcast is commendable and I thank you for your great interest and efforts. In your currenr exposè, however, I didn't notice you mentioning the wishes of residents of Sool, parts of Sanaag and Buhoodle joining HartI Group establish Puntland State in 1998. Do you think that political development was insignificant?

@JamesKerLindsay Год назад

Thank you for your comment. I thought that this may have been made clear in the video. Sorry if it wasn't. But, yes, you are right that they did want to join Puntland, and hence the conflict that we saw. However, it is interesting that they now seem to want to have their own separate federal state.

@muuqalosocdaaltravelvlogs3744 Год назад

Only isaaq clan want sapration Somalia is one country

@riddlerO07 Год назад

Professor, I respectfully wish to point out that the map depicting the areas where each clan resides appears to contain inaccuracies. Specifically, it misrepresents the Isaaq population, which constitutes the majority in Sanaag and shares Sool equally with the Dhulbante.

@jakey2424 Год назад

The map is accurate. 2/3 of Sanaag belongs to Darood, particularly Warsangeli. 85% of Sool belongs to Dhulbahante. 25% of Togdheer belongs to Dhulbahante. The map that the professor showed us is accurate.

@Jiulize Год назад

😅🤣😅son stop politicizing and diluting factual maps 😂.

@alexturlais8558 Год назад

We tend to assume nations are homogenous fixed groups who always want their own state, so thank you for covering such a unique situation!

@waynesampson7185 Год назад

Very complex issue indeed. If you include its strategic position around the Mediterranean, vegetation and natural resources in the mix. It gets even more complicated.

@hassanabdikarimmohamed2505 Год назад

Huh ? Mediterranean is too far away from Somalia, our sea is red sea, gulf of Aden, and Indian Ocean infact our coastline is where all oil and cargo maritime trade traffic between Europe and Asia passes through

@user-cx9nc4pj8w Год назад

@@hassanabdikarimmohamed2505 Yeah OP got that wrong, but you're right about the strategic strength of somaliland

@hassanabdikarimmohamed2505 Год назад

@@user-cx9nc4pj8w there is no entity called Somaliland that exists as a de Jure state and this is coming from a guy whose family is from Sool Sanaag cayn regions of northern Somalia in Buuhoodle town of the Dhulbahante clan Somaliland is an unrecognised secessionist government recently implicated by the world in perpetrating indiscriminate shelling of civilian city and killing thousands for simply refusing to go along with their secessionist agenda Legally under international law there will always was and will continue to be one Somali sovereign nation state which the world knows as Somalia or the federal republic of Somalia, Somaliland legally de Jure under international law and UN law is part and parcel of, and a member state of Somalia Stop dividing my country it's not like I call Scotland independent of UK and I never refer to Catalonia as if it is its own country I go back what is recognised under international law and what the world has consensus on, just like Catalonia is part of Spain like Scotland is part of UK, Somaliland is part of Somalia So your strategic remark legally and accurately should be referring to the whole of Somalia not some section of our country...the whole country is strategic we have the longest coastline In Africa and the Arab League in strategic red sea gulf of Aden Indian Ocean seas and this is just one strategic thing we have we got other strategic qualities as Somalia like the fact we r the most eastern country in Africa that in future will link Africa's untapped mineral wealth and trade from Congo to Uganda Ethiopia etc all will use Somalis coast and ports to trade with East Asia where the future superpowers will be and Somalia will rever to its medieval ancient role as a coastal port entry point for African goods from a plethora of states UN report even said Somalia has 25 percent of the world's easily recoverable (strip mining technique not heavy industrial drilling equipment) uranium reserves lmao This is me mentioning just three strategic things about Somalia the lost is quite long Respect our territorial integrity and sovereignty and follow international law, and the UN, there is only one Somalia and Somaliland where I am from as a Dhulbahante Darod clan member, is just one of 6 federal member states of Somalia

@TheLocalLt Год назад

Thank you so much for the video Dr. Ker Lindsay, love to see all of the positive feedback! I knew of the border dispute in the eastern regions of Somaliland since 1991, but wasn’t aware of how often it’s flared up, nor of the recent clashes which as you mentioned have received little-to-no attention. Will definitely keep an eye on it now, it’ll be interesting to see how it plays out, hopefully peacefully with a return to the status quo. Thanks as always professor!

@JamesKerLindsay Год назад

Thanks so much LocalLt. It really is incredible how little attention this conflict ever receives. It was really difficult to put this video together. There is so little information out there. On top of this, there were all sorts of layers of complexity, including the clan element.

@youriefavre9003 Год назад

Unrelated to the topic of this video, but still significant: Professor James Ker-Lindsay, I would like to thank you for your book "Secession and state creation". I learned quite a lot of new things that I will dive deeper into, as I'm preparing to begin studying international relations at the University of Geneva. I will definitely come back to your book as an introduction to what I will learn. I recommend anyone reading this comment to take a look at his book

@JamesKerLindsay 6 месяцев назад

Thank you so much. I only just saw your comment. It was incredibly kind of you to take the time to post about the book. I hope the studies are going well!

@abdullahideghokossar7059 Год назад

Prof having watched ur clip am a Somali,am very much astonished how picked up pieces from here n there to produce this A to Z of Somalia facts. Thanks.

@JamesKerLindsay Год назад

Thank you so much. I really appreciate the extremely kind comment. It was very difficult to piece together. There were lots of different elements than needed to be explained. And there isn't a lot of information. But I am really glad that you felt that it was accurate. More to the point, let's hope that the region can soon find peace.

@hassanabdikarimmohamed2505 Год назад

@@JamesKerLindsay you are a legend in geopolitics...is your surname Celtic or English? Curious

@truckgps5892 Год назад

Wow amazing video thank you

@JamesKerLindsay Год назад

Thank you so much!

@cabdiraxmaanmaxamed2288 Год назад

Thanks prof 👍

@JC_303 Год назад

I still worry that you may be AI, but the content is great.

@bisharGellowMahad Год назад

Im ethnic Somali from northern Kenya in a tri-border town called mandera which share border with somalia and Ethiopia. I must admit that this analysis was spot-on

@nunuissa6376 Год назад

Isn’t that a Somali land too and part of somaliweyn

@skyshooter4009 11 месяцев назад

@@nunuissa6376 Yes, and i am sure everyone knows that. But, people are actually missing the biggest cause of this current conflict. There is presence of oil in Sool region. Somaliland Isaaq sub clan trying to steal it from the locals.

@abdiali319 Год назад

Thanks for the information. But I have a doubt about the sources.

@JamesKerLindsay Год назад

Thanks. I recognise that a lot of this is going to be contested. There is a lot of information that we just don't have about the population at the moment. But hopefully, it gave a good idea about the situation to someone unfamiliar with the conflict. The details about the facts and the timings of the events should be accurate.

@qataarqato1367 Год назад

Good research

@JamesKerLindsay Год назад

Thank you so much!

@Tribuneoftheplebs Год назад

Best video ive ever seen on Somali politics in English. Great job Professor!

@Niksg9424 Год назад

Class is in session folks

@JamesKerLindsay Год назад

Haha! Thanks. No tests though. :-) Have a great weekend.

@hassanayanle2168 Год назад

Thank you Prof Ker for bringing up the issue to the international audience. The issue is not complex but the Somali politicians have made it. The grievances of Somaliland regarding the inequitable union of 1960 can easily be resolved by taking the following steps: 1.Move the national capital to the north. 2. Revert to the1960 administrative regions which were six from the north and six from the south. And parliamentary representation based on the proportion of population of the two states(1/3 from the north and 2/3 from the south). 3.Abolish the current complex Federal system imposed on the Somalis and replace it with Decentralization(Territorial Devolution). 3. Adopt a Presidential system with five year term. 4. Recognize diversity and give special consideration to historically marginalized groups.

@imbashiir1825 10 месяцев назад

On spot Prof.

@catalinmarius3985 Год назад

I've heard this story in multiple other countries, the clan system is one of the major causes of corruption in Africa. How can people be loyal to a nation if they are loyal to their clan first? To compare it to Romania, the Romanians have 3 sub-divisions: Transylvanians (West), Wallachians (South) and Moldavians (East). And then there are sub-divisions like Wallachians being Muntenians & Oltenians & Dobrujans, Moldavians being West Moldavians & Bukovinians & Bessarabians. BUT, every Romanian sees their sub-group as a sub-division of Romanian. They are Romanian first, and THEN Wallachian or Muntenian or whatever. Like the states in USA, a Californian is still an American, he is first and American, then a Californian. This is not the case in Africa.

@Homer-OJ-Simpson Год назад

That also describes Afghanistan. It does seem that where there is such a weak central government and a strong identification to their clan, it leads to many problems. Heck, that was a major factor in the fall of the Holy Roman Empire.

@aboosis4690 Год назад

africa if you say trabalism is true but clan is only in somalia

@Homer-OJ-Simpson Год назад

@@aboosis4690 I'm not sure Somalia is the only one with clan but you're right, it's mostly tribalism in Africa and not clans.

@awiljama5234 Год назад

That is because the state is the first provider of benefits. There was a time when people started to believe in the state of somalia, because the gov. was working. But then they couldn't pay the salaries. Teachers, doctors, laborers everyone started fleeing the country for the middle east. In my last year of high school all the teachers disappeared into Saudi Arabia. My big city in the north was in the dark for years for lack of diesel and spare parts for the power plant. There was no external budget support for Somalia either (like most African countries) because of the conflict with Ethiopia, which alienated the Christian West. In the last days, the army barracks were empty, and children used to play with unattended anti-aircraft guns. Talk about one hell of a playground!

@oskaaden304 Год назад

Thank you, that explains a lot of what many countries has been experiencing very smart thinking but I think this one is bit different because people in that area don’t want to be part of the secession in fact, they want to stay with the rest of the country that contains different kinds of tribes/ethnicities

@khalidr7576 Год назад

As someone residing on so called Somaliland, this is one of many Somalian civil wars saga each with different flavour but nevertheless same freedom, oppression and war crimes.

@salebanhusein1880 Год назад

Somaliland people are Lions 1977 they attacked against Ethiopia they helped you and ogadenia but today Ethiopia are our brothers we love Somali people but we want to be a country

@hadaafi Год назад

@@salebanhusein1880 the darod clan that want to leave somaliland does not want the same for their brothers in Ethiopia , to free them its envy because of somaliland succes and hate for the issaq cland and people getting closer to independence each day . Viva somaliland

@maddogbasil Год назад

@@hadaafi no need for the politics That's the same reason everyone is here today Many peopp3 have died due to somali land being very oppressive to its own people

@khalidr7576 Год назад

@@salebanhusein1880 Every one is hero of his own tale but most are just delusional.

@saleebanabdi4406 Год назад

So called😂 it is Somaliland

@kadeeromar6616 7 месяцев назад

Thank you Professor much needed information

@JamesKerLindsay 7 месяцев назад

Thank you!

@mussaali3842 Год назад

Professor James I recommend you to learn or discover more about The Somalian clans and their regional territory.

@aminali9371 Год назад

The people of lassdanood City have been attacked with big mortars large-calibre artillery. Were the schools Hospitals residential areas has been destroyed missiles were striking hospitals including mosques during live broadcasting on the social media platform. The sool region populations are not affiliate militias or terrorist groups.

@aminali9371 Год назад

In fact, there were victims of planning associations during the last 15 years of occupation under the somaliland troops.

@abdinasirhassan4066 Год назад

Prof James, thank you for covering this complex conflict. I’m from SSC region in Northern Somalia. I watched this video 2 times. I found 1 mistakes and 1 false assumption that I like to point out. 1st is “isaaq is majority of Somaliland, which is not true. If you we to compare isaaq vs the rest of somaliland clans, they would constitute 50% at max. Second point I like emphasize on the assumption that if somaliland was recognized already, all this programs would have been illuminated, which is far from the truth. From the beginning isaaq clan has been trying to dominate while SSC region has been resisting that unlawful domination. I love your work, but I’m seeing a biased stance, I don’t know if it’s intentional or you have been miss-informed. I believe if somaliland was to be recognized as it is, the conflict would be much broader and worse. The succession is only wanted by the isaaq clan which occupies 40% of somaliland and constitutes % 50% at best. So 50% of somaliland inhabitants don’t want to succeed from the rest, this is what conflict is truly about. The rest is an addition to that base problem.

@user-bz8zq4mk3l Год назад

Cheers bud ! For bringing this to light is real bad over there am a darood who’s from the clan that’s currently fighting in this conflict and is sad and quiet stupid with what’s happening I do believe that it needs to be but to a stop and the EU coming interfering and stopping this mini war which would be great .

@JamesKerLindsay Год назад

Thanks. Yes, let’s hope the fighting stops soon. A new conflict is the last thing the region needs.

@user-bz8zq4mk3l Год назад

@@JamesKerLindsay couldn’t agree more mate .

@rashidfadhaye8100 Год назад

Knowledge is power, this mans unique understanding of the situation may lead the international community to take right decisions so to save thousands.

@drmustafamohamed1885 Год назад

He is profoundly misinformed or the realities in the sool and sanaag

@54032Zepol Год назад

What are we gonna do proffesor? How are we gonna solve this conflict this time? Can't we reach a compromise between both parties?

@weedhsanproduction6423 Год назад

Everything you said is correct and balanced 👌

@JamesKerLindsay Год назад

Thank you very much!

@kawsaradan Год назад

As a Somalian growing up in Europe I never understood and still don't until this day the clan issue of my people however, your video made little clear. 😊 Hope this so called leaders come to conclusions to end this new conflict for the sake of the innocent people 😢😢

@JamesKerLindsay Год назад

Thanks. I am glad it helped. It is an incredibly complex issue. It wasn't easy to piece it all together. More to the point, let's indeed hope that the fighting ends soon.

@mikewilkinson3571 Год назад

Very informational

@JamesKerLindsay Год назад

Thanks!

@cabdiqaniciid9966 Год назад

Wonderful and magnificent information about the Las'anod conflict. Thank you for such an obvious analysis. I live in Berbera Somaliland, and your video will be a great source for my tomorrow's presentation. You deserve more audience.

@JamesKerLindsay Год назад

Thank you so very much! I really appreciate the extremely kind comments. I hope the presentation goes well!

@amiirmaxamed2149 Год назад

I am from Somaliland and I like how you are correct in this topic

@stevemerchant6120 Год назад

I have an idea for a future video. Discuss Scottish independence and how Spain would veto there admission so as not to give Catalonia any idea of forming their own country.

@JamesKerLindsay Год назад

Thanks. I’m planning to look at Scotland this week. But we need to be careful. Spain would only block EU accession after a unilateral secession. (In which case, a far bigger problem for Scotland would be that the UK would block its UN membership.) An agreed independence be perfectly acceptable to Madrid.

@azurejester1520 Год назад

I always really look forward to the videos! They're engaging, interesting, and I always learn something. Thanks for the time and effort. It's appreciated!

@JamesKerLindsay Год назад

Thank you! That is so incredibly kind of you to say. I appreciate it enormously. It’s always really nice to know that they are useful - even if the topics can often be so grim.

@MrSomervillen Год назад

Really helpful explanation

@JamesKerLindsay Год назад

Thank you so much. It was a challenging one to put together. There are lots of strands and information that took some work to piece together. But I am delighted it helped. This is a situation that needs a lot more attention.

@MrSomervillen Год назад

@@JamesKerLindsay I live in the United States, in an area with a lot of Somali immigrants, and it’s always cool for me to have more information and context about what’s going on there!

@Hippobottomless Год назад

Great job professor very detailed video. Can u also do a video on the Ogaden region conflict with the locals and the ONLF rebels wanting independence from Ethiopia. Also with the discovery of oil and natural gas and the Ethiopian government awarding it to china and the west not being happy about that.

@JamesKerLindsay Год назад

Thanks so much. Great suggestion! Yes, it’s on my list.

@moa3605 Год назад

You are really really thousands of times better than the mainstream media, Really knowledgeable,and fairly reported. Well done Prof.

@JamesKerLindsay Год назад

Thank you so much. This is an important and worrying situation that is not getting enough international attention. Let's hope that the region can find peace soon.

@alijama1249 Год назад

@@JamesKerLindsayyou more knowledgeable about Somalia and somaliland then most Somalis thank you for efforts and everything you do thank again god bless you

@MH-jg6vk Год назад

@@JamesKerLindsaycan you delve in the topic “Partition of Albania” which begins with the treaty of berlin 1878 and the treaty of London 1913, which saw 60% of Albanians being left outside Albania and given to Greece and Serbia (as well as Montenegro). The Albanian question still remains unsolved and will unfortunately lead to another inevitable conflict

@Bishar-ej3jo 11 месяцев назад

Thank you for trying to explain Moore although you left some information. That's more deeper thank you again

@salmaanqambi3523 Год назад

Good points

@KINGZ44four Год назад

I agree with most of what you said, however I feel like you have missed major key point in this story and that is the dhulbahante clan are divided politically. Some want puntland, others support Somaliland and there’s also another group that want SSC khaatumo state. Maybe another point u failed to mention was that all those who were assassinated in laascanod past few years were dhulbahante who were loyal to Somaliland. Other than that great report!

@Homer-OJ-Simpson Год назад

Prof, you really love to pick topics that are very complex with no easy answers. And that’s why we love this channel! I’m not sure what my thoughts are. I do support Somaliland being an independent nation but regarding the eastern parts of Somaliland, I don’t know. I can see an argument for both sides and I probably would need a lot more information before I feel comfortable with having an opinion on that.

@futuredoctor1966 Год назад

Our goal is Great Somalia 🇸🇴✊ 🇪🇹👎 We support independence Of occupied Western Somalia Oramia penshagul and tigree

@jakey2424 Год назад

Isaac clan want to be a separate nation. They don't want that Somalia to force them to remain in Somalia. But Isaac wants to force Dhulbahante and Warsangeli to be part of the Isaac nation. That is not right. That is the reason of the conflict

@abdiazizhuruuse8311 Год назад

I appreciate your effort to gather all these detailed information regarding the conflict of lasanod, you seem you have enough information regarding the building blocks of somali society in the greater horn of africa. I hope lasting peace to the all the somali people in the horn,

@jugadug Год назад

very interesting

@JamesKerLindsay Год назад

Thank you. Let’s hope the situation can be resolved soon!

@sman9442 Год назад

Thank you, you clearly explained this situation!!! I am Daarood of the North and we don’t be part of Somaliland project!!!

@bashafitness Год назад

I’m Daarood as well who believes in somaliland and against the tribal war. I believe in democracy and building and building better world. And you know damn well puntland is behind this💯

@sman9442 Год назад

@@bashafitness we are in the month of Ramadan. Fear Allah

@thisguy2372 Год назад

@@bashafitness now you guys are here pretending Darood😂 have some shame

@A-T_Teitus Год назад

@@bashafitness you ain't Daarood for Sure.

@mulkixoriyo Год назад

People in Khatumo state has every right to choose their fate as regional state within the federal republic of Somalia. There is no known country called Somaliland, and therefore the dream of certain clan to divide Somalia cannot be accepted to any Somali with sense of nationalism. Somalia will remain one, period.

@khalidqawdhan3265 Год назад

So if u want to be part of Somalia why do u want to force somaliland to be part of somalia. Don’t u believe in self determination I have no issue if u darood take ur land and be with ur somalia but we remain part of somaliland how about that isaaq and darood cannot share a country this is obvious

@kareemhd1749 Год назад

@@khalidqawdhan3265 afraid to share a country with darod!!! Dude, you're sharing it with all somalis why single out darod?!

@khalidqawdhan3265 Год назад

@@kareemhd1749 u share a country with hawiye and darood labadinaba. Leave us out of it

@kareemhd1749 Год назад

@@khalidqawdhan3265 frightened to be a minority miyaa 😂😂😂 Somalia is one and we'll never be divided

@khalidqawdhan3265 Год назад

@@kareemhd1749 somalia willl not be divided somaliland will also not be divided that’s the truth and there is nothing ur darood clan can do about it

@jamaalmohamud9679 Год назад

This is what I call true journalism, well done.

@dat-e.z3352 Год назад

Thank you

@ruhail1 Год назад

This sums up the complex clan conflict in Somalia. This the most accurate insight by any European into the history of this country and the problems facing its people.. 👍

@JamesKerLindsay Год назад

Thank you so much. I hope I managed to look at the situation fairly and accurately. I know I have a tough audience! :-) But I genuinely find the area so amazingly interesting.

@akiim1532 Год назад

You forgot to mention that the whole reason the 1977 Ogaden war occurred is because it was Somalia’s indigenous land that was illegally annexed by the British and given to Ethiopia

@bonfire7803 Год назад

Professor have you ever visit puntland state of somalia?

@toneo6710 Год назад

A coverage of two interesting regions that have unaddressed, secessionist interests, Biafra on South Eastern Nigeria (who also would like to take the oil rich Niger Delta region along, with it) and Ambazonia, in English speaking Southern Cameroon. Your take on this conflict will be interesting to see. There have been foreign interests (covert or overt) at play in these West African regions for a very long time…

@lionofthehornofafrica3631 Год назад

Spot on on your analyses of the issue’s at hand.The truth is Somaliland is run by racist Issaq subclan who run every position of the tribal enclave government position’s.They have even marginalised tribe’s within Issaq clan of Qarhajis let alone other tribes in Somaliland.The sub clan that’s running the tribal enclave is filling its pockets and stealing land from other tribes in Somaliland the likes of Gadabursi land of Gabiley and awdal as a whole.Let’s not even mention the massacre of Dir tribe in Awdal region on February 4th 1991 in Dilla,Borame Gabiley of Gadabursi and Issa tribe of awdal.In 1994 the Issaq turned its gun on the Issaq Garhajis tribe.So to suppress the Garhajis idea and will to unite the greater Somalia.And for the last 20 years they have been killing the Harti clan.To suppress the will of the Harti tribe to join the Mogadishu federal system..As Dir myself my people will never support the tribal enclave of SNM Mafia government in Hargaisa..We support the unity of Somali brotherhood.We are one race,One language and one religion.Only Japan is similar to us in oneness.The unity of Somalia is a must for all Somali people everywhere.Even my family in NFD Kenya and Somalistate in Ethiopia are longing for greater Somalia.In 2 to 5 months time Somaliland tribal enclave won’t exist.Garhajis and Awdal Dir will finish of this God forsaken tribal enclave that been killing Somali’s people for power.Somali’s are Muslim and are brothers.

@hanz_60 Год назад

You can say the same about darood and hawiye who love to dominate and control all of Somalia. Darood is the reason for most problems. We not brothers. Go cry in the corner. We will be divided till prophet Issa comes.

@akiim1532 Год назад

This battle stretches further then 91. The dhulbahante clan were a huge portion of the Dervish group who waged war with the British. They have been historically anti imperial and forced the British to bomb Africa for the first time due to the humiliation the British received from the dervish fighters lead by sayyid mahmmed Abdullah Hassan also known as “the mad mullah”

@G-hg9ff Год назад

the leaders of derivsh are from isaaq clan

@shukriiii Год назад

@@G-hg9ff first you want our land now you claim our identities, stop lying lying inferiority complex human beings

@nasrin1930 Год назад

Good and throughly analysis

@JamesKerLindsay Год назад

Thank you very much.

@theconqueringram5295 Год назад

That seems to be a major issue with some other developing countries, clans not cooperating. Looks like Somalia is no different. This seems to be yet another conflict with no clear end in sight, maybe a protracted conflict that'll linger for years or decades to come.